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SOUTH WALES RAILWAY. Tt, E--DAV.—The Committee on the SotithWale-; Rail- way Bill, which had been referred back to them by the House of Commons, for the purpose of proceeding with the remaining clauses, in order that the Bill might be re- ported, assembled this morning at twelve o'clock, Mr. E. liuller in the chair. MR. COCKHURN took an objection to the clauses being proceeded with, and was about to state the grounds of his objection, when he was interrupted by The CHAIRMAN, who inquired whether, under the cir- cumstances of the case, the Learned Gentleman would peisist ill his opposition. Was he aware that the matter had been discussed in Parliament, and that the Bill had been referred back to them, to go through the clauses to enable them to report on itl MR. COCKBURN suggested that the clauses, if taken at all, should be gone through sub MO do. The great diffi- culty. as it appeared to him, was the crossing of the Severn, and it would be useless for the Committee to pro- ceed with the clauses, unless some plan should be sug- gested by which the Company could obviate that difficulty. The Committee must be satisfierl that the passage across the Severn could be properly arranged with the Admiralty, otherwise they would be precisely in the same position, as they were when they last left the Committee-room. lie was sure that if the sufficient powers could not be ob- tained, an insuperable bar would be presented to the further progress of the Bill. The Committee must feel that they could not proceed unless they were satisfied that the difficulty which was involved in the resolution they had come to on a previous occasion could be got over. The only way of resolving the difficulty was by referring the Bill to the Standing Orders Committee. The Bill had been before the Committee on the petition for the Bill, and he believed had also been referred to the Stand- ing Orders Committee, which was to meet to-day, and if any difficulty should arise on the standing orders, the entire scheme must be destroyed. He was aware it had been proposed that the passage of the Severn should be effected by means of a tunnel under the river, but no positive statement to that effect had been urged and even were the statement correct, before the Bill could be fur- ther proceeded with all the requirements of the standing oiders must be complied with, and it must also be made clear that the altered line in an engineering point could be propcrlv carried out. Mr. T.u. HOT, in reply, said it appeared to him that his Learned Friend had fallen into several errors in his state- ment. It was a serious mistake to suppose that the Committee were in the same position now as when they last left that room. The whole matter had been referred by the Committee to the House of Commons, and the House of Commons had decided in so distinct a manner that it could not be left to the suggestion of this or that individual as to what the course of the Committee should bf. The House of Commons had clearly called lInon the • oiiimittfce to proceed with tiie clause' the Bill, in older that it ini^'l'il br ¡ep"r("d to the House. He could not see how the ( oininittee could do otherwise, than pro- ceed with the d:lIl: 0, they would bp acting in coutra- vention to tlie express older of llie limine. The CHAIRMAN Slid tiiat. it was the opinion of the Committee that the clauses should be proceeded with. The 21st clause, which affected the passage of the Severn, must be postponed until the Bill had been before the Standing Orders' Committee. Mr. DANIEL wished to be heard, in pursuance of a notice of motion made on Thursday last, in the House of Commons, by Captain Berkeley, to the effect that the peti- tions of Mr. Cambridge, Mr. White, Mr. Cothers, and of the Corporation of Gloucester, against the line of the South Wales Railway, be referred to the Committee of Group P, and that the several petitioners be heard by counsel against the bill. He wished to know whether he was competent to be heard. After some conversation, The CHAIRMAN said it was the opinion of the Com- mittee that the Learned Counsel could be heard in opposition to the clauses relating to the passage of the railway across the Severn. The clauses of the Bill were then proceeded with. The 21st to the 27th clauses were postponed for con- sideration until to-morrow. The CHAIRMAN observed that he expected to-morrow morning all parties who had clauses to propose would be ready to proceed without delay, and they should in the interim mutually exchange clauses, so that no difficulty might be presented. At the close of the day's proceedings, Mr. DAVIS, who appeared for Sir T. C. Bovey and the Rev. Mr. Jones, complained that the overweening influence of the Great Western Company had deprived his clients of many ad- vantages to which they were justly entitled, and he strongly reprobated the course which had been adopted by the promoters of the Bill. The Committee then adjourned till twelve to-morrow. WEDNESDAY.—On the re-assembling of the Committee this morning at the usual hour, Mr. E. BULLER, the Chairman, announced that yes- terday the Standing Orders' Committee were unable to- form a quorum, and, in consequence, no business was transacted. According to the rules of the House, Mr. Escott was obliged to give notice, for leave to sit for a quorum of three. He had given that notice, and the sub- ject would be brought before the House to-night the Standing Orders' Committee could not, therefore, sit until to-morrow, and this Committee would adjourn till Friday, in order to have the report of the Standing Orders' Committee. 0 l\lr. D- UollJui 1: .1 tho onrporsition of Gloucester, requested the Committee to adjourn until beyond Friday, otherwise he would be perfectly unable to meet any new case that might in the interim be set up. He begged an adjourn- ment till Tuesday next. Sir T. PHILLIPS objected to any adjournment beyond Friday as unnecessary. To-morrow afternoon, at three o'clock, the decisiou 011 the standing orders would be known. GENERAL JOHNSON, M.P., refused to entertain the application. He had at great inconvenience to himself come a distance of one hundred miles to attend the Com- mittee yesterday, and next week he wanted to be four hundred miles away. There was no instance of a Bill in Committee at so advanced a period as July being passed during the session, and he certainly should not agree to adjourn the Committee till Tuesday next. The CHAIRMAN observed, if any case should arise re- quiring further delay, there would be sufficient time to consider the application, but under the present circum- stances the Committee had distinctly decided that they must adjourn till Friday. The Committee then adjourned.

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