The North Wales Chronicle and Advertiser for the Principality

ILAKBWSTUBSAH DISTEICT CQTJHCIL| The monthly meeting of the Llanrwst Ihstrict I Council was held on Friday, Mir J. E. Hum- I phreya presiding. THE COUNCIL AND THE REV. JOHN I GOWER. The Finance Committee reported that the Rew. John Gower, the Rectory, Trefriw, had sent in a bill of JS10 for damages done to his garden and field in laying a new line of main water pipes at the intake. The Chairman and Mr Mclntyre interviewed Mr Gower, who agreed to accept S; and Mr Mclntyre recommended its adoption by the Council. Mr T. R. Jone3 pointed out that in an inter- view reported on June 26th, it was understood that if the Council laid a free supply of water Mr Gower would have no objection to the scheme as proposed. The Council had given Mr Gower compensation by connecting the one- inch pipe which he asked for. The Chairman remarked that it was argued that no improvement had been carried out, but tint Mr G>wer'a property had been damaged. The recommendation was carried. THE PURITY OF THE WATER SUPPLY. I The Sanitary Committee reported that ;n re- ply to a letter from the Welsh Crown Spelter Mining Company, in reference to the question of water supply, the cerk had been instructed to state that the Council must insist upon safe- guarding the purity of their water supply, and suggesting that if the company could come to terms with the Trefriw Council as to taking the intake higher up the river, or by some other arrangement, the Council was prepared to come to reasonable terms in the matter. THE COUNCIL AND WATER RENTS. I The Collector reported that general district I and water rates, amounting to 2129 12s, had been collected, and there remained uncollected £ 337 9s. Mr Beetham, mineral water manufacturer, at- tended to protest against his water bill, which amounted to £ 7 10s. Previously, he only paid f,2 10- He complained that in his place at Wat ling-street he did nut get waiter in summer days From eight o'clock in the morning to eight dolock at night. He could not. get on with his bottling because of the lack of water. He thought that the charge. of 2s &d per thousand gallons was far too much. It should be six- pence per thousand gallons. In Llandudno it was Is, and in Llanrwst their water expenditure wa,i not so heavy. A Member remarked that there had been a, number of appeals. There had been a new fixing of water rates. The Chairman said he did not disbelieve Mr Bee til am, but he would not be a party to un- doing the committee's work without further evi- dence. Mr T. said be would move that at I the next meet:ng all water for trade purposes he tested by metre. THE TOWN HALL QUESTION. I A letter was read from Mr E. P. Hughes, a meuiber of the Council, with regard to the offer made by him and Mr W. T. Marriott recently to repav the Council the amount of the loan for the purchase of the Town Hall, situated in Arv oastcr-squara, provided the Council undertook to demolish the hall. After pleading a prior en- gagement, Mr Hughes wrote: "I do not agree aa to the advisability of pulling down such an old Llanrwst landmark as the Town Hall. At the samt) time, I in common with a great num- ber of large ratepayers in the town, am of opin- ion that it might be so improved as to be neither an obstruction nor an eyeaore to the town in future. Mr J. W. Griffith asked if there was anything in writing regarding the offer? The Oha'rman replied that there was not. Mr Griffith said he would not be a party to any discussion on the question unless it was placed in writing. The Chairman said the Council oould not dis- ellSS the question unless Mr Marriott withdrew his condition or Mr Hughes withdrew his. Dr. Owen You are sure that the gentlemen undertook that offer? The Chairman. Well, when gentlemen make a public announcement what are you to think? Both are gentlemen of means. Dr. Owen: One gentleman does-not feel in- clined to carry out his promise. The Chairman Oh deiar, no; he does rot withdraw: ho only justifies its not being rle- molished. Mr W. G. Jones said he would 00 dead against pulling down the Town Hall. Mr J. W. Griffith said he was sorry to hear it. The building was more fit for a bam than a Town Hall. In conclusion, the Chairman said they would not go into the question of the Town Hall un :e.'18 thev,.Ilad conditions laid before them with- out any doubt alotit them. Mr Marriott and. Mr Hughes should come to the same conclu- si.JD., I

FLINTSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL. I The quarterly meeting of the Flintshire County Oonineil was held at Flint on Wednesday, Mr Thomas Parry, chairman. Upon the sub- mission of the county analyst's report for the past quarter, Mr Gaimlin, Rhyl, drew attention to the subject of sulphuric acid yn beer, and pointed out that no sample had been subjected 1 to analysis during the paat quarter. He would suggest that samples should be taken and peiiodioally analysed.—Mr H. G. Roberts point- ed out the report referred to a period prior to tlie "beer soare." The circular of the Local Gov- ernment) Board. recommending the taking of samtJee of articles in which glucose- was used, was read. Major Webber (chief-oonstable) said that during the past quarter no samples of beer had been analysed, but during the year several been taken. Mr Gamlin proposed, and Dr. J. H. Williams seconded, that samples be taken -as recomnierided by the Local Govern- ment Board A digmesioyi ensued upon the facilities given for teclmtcal education in agriculture. Mr R. U. Jones held that the reason the sons of farm- era did not take advantage of technical education in agriculture was owing to the insecurity of fixitv of tenure, and were landlords to give bet- ter terms in agreements there would be an im- provement. Mr H. Lester Smith (Hialkyn) did not Agree that fixity of tenure was the cause of lack of pupils in agriculture at Bangor. He had a book 4t Halkyn containing the names of appli- cants for farms, and among them was the best talent of the country. The Chairman said if farmers intended to prepare their sons to meet the keen competition they must be prepared to sacrifice a little, as other men had to do for their sons. An intimation was Teceived from the TArd- Lieutenant of the county that he had appointed Mr Bulcock, of Gwespyr, a magistrate for Lian- asa. The Llan-asa Parish Council had petitioned for a resident magistrate, and the inconvenienco was now removed. Dr. Williams asked was Mr Bulcock a Welshman. The Chairman re- plied he oould not say. Dr. Williams -said he thought it should be oonsidered in the appoint- ment of a magistrate in a rural district as to the gentleman bjing Welsh. He was sure there -were gentlemen quite as capable of fulfilling the duties of magistrates when they understood Welsh aa when thev did rA&. He moved a "I. resolution that the lord-liexttenant De aSKea. w consider the appointment. of magistrates with a knowledge of Welsh, particularly when vn rural districts. Mr R. Til. Jones seconded. Mr W. Ewy Williams said Mr Bulcock wws not a Welshman, and had not been long in Gwespyr. He ame from Liverpool to work a quarry. It was a pity that the lord-lieutenant passed over people worthy of being aippointed to the honour. MrGamlin moved tnat.thethanks of the Council be rmeeed tc the lord-lieutenant for acquiescing in the resolution of the County Council, and said the objection to Mr Bulcock was raised be- caufte he was not of the wme political party. Dr. Williams denied the imputationland asserted that he was not aware of the politics or nation- ality of Mr Bulcock. Mr Gamlin replied thtt it was perfectly transparent why the objection was raised, and it W3S indecent of the Council t-o J=I; the qoA!i&?tio!W of My magistrate The CJhfairman said no question had been raised as to the character of the new magistrate. After some discussion, no resolution was come :0, and the matter fell through.

COLWYN BAY DISTRICT COUNCIL. The monthlv meeting of the Colwyn Bay Dill. trict Council was held on Tuesday, Mr George Be\ an presiding. • THE GASWORKS BILL. In the minutes of the last monthly meeting there appeared a minute that the chairman informed the meeting that he had taken steps to secure the in- :igl;hte ar:kBlls{ clause to further regulate the erection of hoardings, and this action W" a(led- 1 Mr w??lly ?,un Davies asked when was the purchase of the gasworks likely to come before the rate- payers? The Chairman said the (bite was not iirea, hut it would be about January 10th, They were wait- ing for Mr Chamberlain. He further remarked that if the clause regarding hoardings was inserted in the Bill it would have had to come before a separate committee of the House of 'Commons, and it was thought advisable to drop it, as in all p- ibability it would jeopardise the bill. The object ot the clause was to regulate the erection of hoai dings III Coiwvn Bay. SANITARY EXPENDITURE. The Sanitary Committee reported that its expen- dittire u to date Nvits ;09,out via total if ?0159? provid The following expmditure was also re- ported :—Suspense accounts, new drainage scheme, E115 public urinal, L91 cemetery, £100; sewer extentum". JB121. Loan expenditure Water- mains \£H200l, £ 7704; promenade and other sewers, L323, £7f:IJ having been provided for this purpose. THE HOSPITAL SITE. I In response to a communication from the Local Government Board with regard to the hospital site, the Surveyor submitted plans of the site, and its relation to houses, and aggregations of population surrounding it, and a plan of the rearrangement of the buildings to meet the requirements of the Local Government Board. It was observed that by the re-arrangement the extent of the laud used for this purpose remained the same. The plans were approved, and ordered to be sent to the Local Government Board. WATER LEAKAGE AT THE PIER. I At the instance of the Highway Committee, it was decided to write to the secretary of the Pier Company calling attention to the fact that water finds its way through the decking of the pier on i to the promenade below. HIGHWAY EXPENDITURE. The expenditure of the Highways Committee to October 31st was reported to 00£1811, against an estimated £ 3133. THE COUNCIL AND THEIR WORKMEN. The Highways Committee recommended that the services of four old men should be dispensed with, and that the Council fix the maximum number of regular men in charge of the foreman at 31. Mr William Davies moved that the latter figure b" put at 25. There was no necessity for any more, and he did not believe there were any more under the late foreman. Mr John Roberts seconded. The Chairman explained that the number-31- included the whole of the workmen in the employ of the Council. Mr William Davies withdrew his amendment, but moved that the motion be referred back for further partictilttrs.. Mr Roberts seconded. Mr J. M. Pciter pointed out that the figure was thIl:icltÍt ptrj80tt:s fi:i: do with as few men as }Jossible. The foreman amid not go beyond 31 in any case. Mr William Davies and Mr John Roberts com- plained that the four old men named were to be dismissed. The old! men were not incapable. They were men who had sefVed on t,?, roads for Y" and could do the work as well as younger men. They were as active as many younger men. Mr William Davies was afraid ttivi youngyeor unger men. there was a ues- tion of nationality lurking under this action ( No, I no"). Mr Hugh Hughes moved that they be not dis- missed. They might be put on lighter work and I lower wages, and given a portion of the r in the higher part of the district. Mr John Roberts seconded.. Mr J. M. Porter said the decision of the com- I mittee was only arrived at after careful considera- tion. If any member wanted to shirk responsibility for that action, he was willing to take it. One of the men was found sitting down, comfortably smokirig his pipe, at 3.30 p.im Would they, as men of business, allow that kind of thing among their own workmen. The committee decided that the workmen were to be reduced, and that the least able were to go. He did not think that any of the men had been in the Council's employ for more than eight years. Of course, it was very much against the grain to dismiss them, but the committee had to face the Question. Dr. Brookes maintained that the Council should be governed by the same rules as they would em- ploy in their own business. However much- they regretted that men were unable tp do a full day's work, it was necessary that the Council should have men in their employ able to do lull day's .vo;k. He thought that some other work might be found: for the men. Mr Porter remarked that if the Council had a.i town's yard these men mighty be set to other work, under more comfortable circumstances. The Highway Committee's minute was carried. STREET ELECTRIC LSQffiTTNG. j It was reported by the Surveyor that the street lamps had now been running threei weeks, and 'that the gas consumed in "charging the accumulators was 30,350 cubic feet. It was decided that the street lamps remain lighted to eleven o'clock each evening, except Saturdays, 11.30, and Sundays, 10.30. ARREARS. The collector's book showed amount of rates out- standing to be £550. THE PROMENADE SCHEME. The Surveyor submitted plans, sections, etc., for joining the new promenade to the 't pro-, menade. It was intended to build a sea-wall J.n9 the whole distance, and to form the extension in one gradient from one promenade to She dhn.' That would necessitate filling in to the exwnt of nearly 20,000 cubic yards. The a?phalted surface of the promenade would be of a uniform width of 30 feet, with the carriage road, on the land-side, continued right through at a width of 20 feet. In addiho.nto the foreshore, it would be neceamsy to; acquire from the railway company two smar azeu of their property, in order .to carry out the new extension uniformly. He would venture to aug- gest that an endeavour be made to get the company f::ren::vc:-un ::efl:1 ;!tt at the base of the slope running along that part. That would then allow of an even promenade, which would afford a sheltered position for seats, etc. He bad drawn out a detailed estimate of the cost of carry- ing out that important improvement. The prin'a' P-I reason of bringing that work up now was that an easement for the proposed main sewer might be ed, and which he bOO been wven to understand would save between £ 5000 and .£6000 in the cost of the main sewerage scheme rather than if the K'hcme was laid along Prince'fr-drive. Therefore, in considering the cost of that improvement, the Council ought to take that fact into account. The Chairman reported that be had interviewed Mr Mackie, the chief estate agent to the London and North-Weotem Railway Company, in the hope of inducing the railway company to give up tke portion of the foreshore held ryv them near Colwyn Bay Station. If the Council obtained this- land they would be able, not only to connect the two promenades, but also to carry the main sewer along the shore, thus affecting a very considerable saving in the cost of that scheme. He was glad to say that his approaches were very favourably received by Mr Mackie, who bad sincewritten a conciliatory letter. > The chairman was warmly thanked for his ser- vices.

The Prestatyn District Council have recently acquired a new steam fire engine of the Meny- wœtber "Gem" type, 8etlling ? capacity of 300 gallons per minute. HOLLO WAYS OINTMENT AND PILLS. Diseases and casualties incidental to youth may be safely treated by the use of these excellent) Medica- ments according to the printed directions folded round each pot and box. Nor is this Ointment alaue applicable to external ailments; conjointly with the Pills it exercises the most salutary in- fluence in checking inflammations situated in the interlor of the body when rubbed upon the back and chest it gives the most sensible relief in aisthma, bronchitis, pleurisv. and threatening consumption. Holloway's rem edl* es are especially serviceable in liveT a.nd stomtleh complaints. For the cuie of bad legs, all sorts of wounds, sores, and likewise scro- fuln; and scorbutic affections, this Ointment produces a cooling and soothing feeling most acceptable to the saBerer.—Advt.

30KWAI BOARD OP OUAMIAS. The monthly meeting of the Conway Board of Guardians was held on Friday at the Work- house, Mr John Roberts presiding. DRINK AND THE WORKHOUSE. Whilsfe the Board weee going through a. num- ber of relief cases from Llandudno the Relieving Officer remarked in more than one cose that the cause of poverty was drink. The Chairman That is the history of almost every ease that comes from Llandudno. Mr John Jones: We heat very much about the drink. Is it not possible that statements are made that cannot be proved? If a charge of drunkenness is miade, it is not sufficient to con- demn these people. We should be sure that every statement about drink is true by official or some other proof. The Chairman: We axe not magictratee here, Mr Jones: You misunderstand me. I only want that thereidlould be some ground produced for these statements. What ground has the relieving officer for this charge in this case ? The Relieving Officer: I have no knowledge myself. I have merely heard it from people who told me so. Mr William Davies: If the officer hears such a thing is it not his duty to make enquiries? The Relieving Officer said it was very difficult to get proof. If he went from house to house and made enquiries he would be told that there was no truth in the statements, that they knew nothing about it. Mr John Jones: Well, as a sensible man you could find out. The Chairman said they must not wink at that question. The cause of the existence of this house is drink. Mr William Davies: I must confeas that I have changed my mind very much on this ques- tion since I came on the Board. This house is the fruit of drunkenness to a great extent. Mr Roger Dawson objected to this statement, saying that there were a great number of bona- fide cases in the Workhouse on account of old age and other causes. Mr John Jones said they should not interfere because of statements which could -not be proved. MR DAWSON V. MR ABRAM. I An amusing scene occurred between Mr Pioger Dawson and Mr T. Abram. Mr Dawson, who represents Llandudno, wished to discuss the question of relief of two families in the Conway borough and was proceeding to develop his case when Mr Abram, a guardian for Gyffin, proteet, ed warmly against Mr Dawson's interference. Mr Dawson was guilty of lack of etiquette in interfering in a pariah already represented by guardians. He charged1 Mr Dawson with going about Conway touting for oases to bring before the Guardians. Mr Dawson ought to restrict himself to his own particular parish and not interfere with Conway cases. Mr Dawson, speaking with warmth, asserted that though elected by the ratepayers of Llan- dudno, he was a guardian of the whole union, and nothing would prevent him from bringing oases of injustice, before the Board wherever he heard of them. It was wrong of Mr Abram to say that he had no right to interfere. Mr Hugh Hughes pointed out that Mr Dawson was out of order as there was no recommenda- tion before the Board regarding the person in question. Mr Dawson was called to order and subsequently rose, saying he would move the fol- lowing motion at the next meeting "That the Local Government Board be requested to revoke its order allowing the division,cof this Board into two re:ief committees, so that guardians may once more be enabled to fully exercise their functions as guardians of the poor of the entire Conway Union." LLYSFAEN CHILDREN'S EDUCATION. It was stated that monthly statements had been received from- every parish with the ex- ception of Edrias, Llysfaen, and Llandrillo, and it was explained that this was on account of the books not being delivered to the new collector until a short time before. Mr William Davies asked in connection with the school rate! of Llysfaen it was stated that it was to come out of the common fund. He should Jke to know what was meant by the com- lion fund. The Clerk stated that it meant the general rate of the union. Mr Davies said he must protest against the union being made responsible for Llysfaen chil- dren. The Clerk said there was nothing extraor- dinary in it. All expenses incurred for educa- tion must be charged out of the common fund. Mr Davies said every child that went from Llysfaen to Oolwyn Bay cost the Board 16s 8d and there were sixty of them. Was the Board willing to pay that 1 He did not see why the union Should pay for the education of Llysfaen children. Th« Clerk remarked that the intention was to carve a new contributor}' parish to be added to Cblwyn Bay. The rate would be issued by Colwyn Bay, and would go to Colwyn Bay whether it was 16s 8d or 20a. The discussions then dropped. PROPOSED OO-OPTAfTTVE MEMBERS. Mr Roger Dawson proposed: "That applica- -tion bo made to the Council of each and eveary county in which this union is partially situate, for an order (after a joint committee of inquiry) that one-third of the number of guardians of the Conway Union go out of office annually, with a view to this Board having greater powerB of appointing co-optative members. He remark- ed that at the vary nr&t meetmg of tho?- which he attended, he tried to get the Board to, elect co-optative members. The Board de6ded. against him then, but it was understood that they oould: bring the matter up again, but it; was found that owing to the Board retiring tri- enuaally they had lost their powers to do so. Mr Hugh Hughes interrupted, asking if any- one was going to second the motion, otherwise it was only waste of time toO discuss it. Mr Dawson said he was entitled by the rules of deuto to propose his motion amd to speak on it. The Chairman: Well, out it short, Mr Daw- son, No one seconded Mr Dawson, and he then gave notice of a motion dealing with the same question to be brought forward at the nest meet-I WORKHOUSE ALTERATIONS. Dealing with the question) of Workhouse alte- rations, Mr Thomas Abram proposed the res- cinding of a resolution passed at the previous meeting, to the effect that certain alterations at the Workhouse- be not proceeded with, pend- ing tegisiation in the direction of allowing boards of guardians to house children under their care, whether hi workhouses or in cottage bosies. Mir Abram based his arguments upon a state- ment to the Board at a reoewt meeting by the Local Government Board's inspector, Mr Bir- cliam, who held that it was necessary to carry out the amended scheme of alterations. Mr John Jones, Llandudno, seconded the mo- tion. Mr William Davies, Colwyn Bay, whose re- solution it was proposed to rescind, opposed the proposition, and read at k-ngth a report of a de- putation received by Mr Chaplin, when he was at the Liwal Government Board. Mr Chaplin said he was strongly in favour of legislation of the kind indicated. There T. is considerable up- roar during the speech and the subsequent dis- cussion because the oltairmin endeavoured to ex- plain that the clerk had already said there were only four orphan children in the Workhouse who could 00 placed in stleh a home as Mr Davies advwat?d, and it vca ridiculous to erect ouch a home for the a.ke of haK-a-dozen chMren. Mr W. Davies said he wished the matter to be carefully considered in all its bearings, with the object of agitating for more hum ane legis- lation with regard to children whose par!? were in receipt of poor relief. M<my children would be far better -off in a home of this sort thin in their parents.' homeR. Mrs Colton, Penmaen-mawT, supported this view, and said that the money allowed to parents was 110 small that the children were insufficiently nourished for either their mental or physical development, with the result that from this class of the population wera bred the criminals and indigent poor of the community. The motion of Mr Abram to rescind the reso- lution was carried. THE CLERK'S SALARY. The Clerk applied to the Finance Committee to tpke into consideration the question of in- I C' his salary on account of the greatly in- croMed quantity of work since 1894. The com- mittee recommended the Board to authorise the committee to obtain partioulMs of the salaries paid in other unions in Y'arbu8 parts of the coun- try and to Iake a recommendation thereon to the Board. THE BOARD AND MR FARRINGTON'S CHARGES. With regard to Workhouse alterations, an ap- plication was received from Mr T. B. Furing- ton asking for B100 on account of preparing plans. It was recommended by the House Com- mittee that Mr Farrington be requested to fur- nish axe of his claim against the Board UD to date. THE COST OF MAINTENANCE AT THE ASYLUM. The House, Finance, and Visiting Committee reported a resolution passed on the motion of Mr H. Hughes, seconded by Mr D. Janes, "That the clerk be instructed to write to th& commit- tee of asylum visitors protesting against the con- tinual increase in the cost of maintenance in the asylum."

LLANDUDNO RATEPAYERS' ASSOCIA- TION. The committee of the Llandudno Ratepayers' Association meb at. their monthly meeting on Friday evening at the Cambridge Restaurant, Mr H. Caraher presiding. THE MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS. Mr J. M. Young drew attention to the expen- diture on the Municipal Buildings: instead of its being £ 12,000 or 214,000 it would be in his opinion1 nearer £ 20,000. At the last Council meeting it had been decided to spend £1000 on lighting and ventilating, and he did not believe that sum was included in the contract. The Council would liave been better advised if they had adopted the plans of their local architect. The building would have been up by this time and he should have preferred Mr Humphreys's plans to this one. The Chairman remarked that these matters were disposed of by the Council and could not be remedied. The Ratepayers' Association ob- ject should be the prevention of mistakes of that kind. REFLECTIONS! ON THE BUTCHER DISPUTE. With regard to the butchers' dispute with the Council, Mr Young presumed that the gathering had read the fullre-port which had appeared in the "Directory" the previous week and in the other local papers a week later. Personally, he believed that, the attitude of the Council had been the correct on a Mr Halliday The majority, you mean. There was a minority. Mr Young read the following motion, which he had prepared: "That, while convinced that the cost of erecting and furnishing the new slaughter-houses has been too great, involving heavy rentals and charges to make the scheme self-supporting', this: committee strongly sup- ports the action of the Council in dealing with the butchers of the town, and this committee fails to see what reason the butchers- can. have for expecting to have light or wa at cheaper rates than other ratepayers." Mr Young also suggested that ihey should pass the following motion: "That the committee are further of opinion that the Council ought to have had provisional agreements from those butchers who contemplated having private portions of the buildings before going to the cost of providing and fitting same." The Chairman thought -that the latter motion was unnecessary. What was done could not be heped. Mr Young said the buitichers were jibbing now. If they had signed an -agreement they would hav.e been held fast. Mr Smith pointed out that the butchers had selected their own man as delegate to go round various abattoirs to see how they were fitted up, and the fittings were in accordance with the views of the delegate. He understood that the only difference was that the rails-were too low, but that could be easily mended. He did not see how the water and light should lie in- cluded by the Council in the rental- Mr Young remarked that the second motion was aimed at the 1-ick of intelligence and fore- sight on the part of the Council. Mr Bartley moved, and Mr Richard Williams seconded, the ad-option of the first motion-, and this was carried. The other was withdrawn. The next question to be discussed was the tramway schemes. Mr Young said in view of the Oolwyn Bay Tramway Scheme the Urban Council had laid down new electric plant for the purpose of pro- viding motor power. It seemed as if the tram- way scheme had gone to sleep, and there was, therefore, a lot of electric plant. unhand which was not required. Mr Halliday said he had 'been informed that the scheme was being taken up again and would be before the Council at the next meeting. Mr Smith: That's the finest thing that can happen to Llandudno. He proposed "That bear- I ing that a new effort. is being made to carry through the scheme of the Colwyn Bay electric tramway the oomrnlttee trusts that all efforts Will be made by the Council to facilitate matters, especially as the electric plsnt provided for the purpose is now lying idle." Mr Halliday seconded, and it was carried. Mr Caraher was surprised that the Council should think of taking up the Great Orme tram- way without a mandate from the ratepayers. 'They must not overlook the fact that the Council was already in debt. The present Marine-drive was not paying, and there were, little hopes that a tramway would pay any better. Mr Halliday called attention to Mr Conolly's advice at the last Council meeting with regard to the power of the Council to construct a tram- way on the Marinet-drive. The Clerk reported "That the Act appeared to contemplate the possibility" of traffic by steam and other power. Mr Halliday thought the Council ought not to prooeed on any such ambiguous reading. Mr Caraher spoke deprecaitimgly of the Coun- cil's scheme for the erection of further work- men's dwellings. The engineer to the Council had stated that the houses were intended to IIC- commodate five persons. In some of the houses he had been told that there were thirty people lodging there. Wha t workingman could pay C.r 7S3wook f(cabouso of bhatkind 1 In Mtne Of the hoooæ there w ere paupers living. The rate- payers kept thiem, and in turn they paid remt to the ratepayers who had provided the houses (laughter). A number of committee-men were delegated to attend the Local Government Board enquiry on W ednesday.

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OSWESTRY v. BANGOR. (By "Zo Amt"] This was a Combination match, and was played at Bangor in perfectly brutal weather, and in the presence of a small gate, last Saturday. The visitors aire well up in the Combination table, and proved to be a very lively lot, their stars (in reputa- tion, and in fact as well) being Charlie Parrv. the ex-Evertoniaa^ and Tracy. Mr R. Hersee acted as referee, and did his work well. The players were as under:—Oswestry: Tracy; Price and 0. Parry; Richards. H. Jones, and Jarman; Wellings, G. Davies, T. Parry, Butterton, and Goodrich. Bangor: Teddy Owen, R. Roberts and Teddy Edwards; J. Amdge, Buckland-, and W. Lewis; John Roberts, Di Roberts, Richie Jones, Dick Owen and Jimmy Jones. Bangor had the half gale of wind against them as they attacked the church goal, and were at once pressed on to their fortress, and, in the course of a few minutes, Teddy Edwards was so fiercely pressed that he shot dead into his own goal. Teddy Owen was on the alert, and kicked out, but sent the ball behind, and a grand corner was placed, which, however, Tom Parry -liewed over. Teddy Edwards shone in defence, volley- ing out in the most steadfast and deliberate man- ner, but his forwards failed to get away, and, as often as Teddy volleyed the ball out, it was prompt- ly returned, with the result that the front of the home goal was the perpetual scene of most excit- nearly fif r ges,wili gr i ?t-al scene of most excit- ing &:rimmages, which, in the ?g',?,te, lasted for nearly fifteen minutes. Then Di Roberts tried one of his famous rushes, and it came off, and, in a? trice, the Oswestryians were spread-eagled, and Pi, Johnny Bach, and Richie were racing to the other end of -the ground, Di finishing up a grand sprint with a shot which swept past the cross-bar, just as the referee announced a f. of some sort in the corner of the ground. This was satisfied by a throw, and from this Bangor again attacked fiercely, and the vi1ting right sped down the field at a tremendous rate. Teddy Edwards made a gallant but fruitless effort to stop their career, but missed his kick, and away went WelliSgs along the touch-line, but Robert Roberts, sprinting across, touched the ball into touch in the neatest manner possible. From the throw, Oswestry darted "en masse" towards, and got past the home defence, but, with an open frail, the excited players clean missedi a grand chance., and Bob Roberts, again darting in, once more relieved his lines, But the visitors, could not be kept out, as the wind; carried their lightest touches dead into the Bangor goal, and well they allowed for the force of the wind, and once again the opening stages of the game, in the form of a tremendous fusillade on the home citadel, were enacted. Once again, how- ever, Di Roberts put in a desperate rush, and, beat- ing three men in succession, he got clear, and drove the ball along the ground far ahead. After it raced Johnny Bach and Richie, the latter getting possession, and passing forward, on the run, to Johnny Bach. Johnny, however, could not catch the flying pass, and Butterton plunged the ball to? the other end of the ground on(.?? again, which Tom Party touched on to Wellings, who, balancing bm. self [or a moment, sent in a terrific shot, which, for- tunately for Btn lor went just wide. Oswestry .swarmed round the home goal immediately after the goal-Wck, and Goodrich Tc?, the ball under the bar, with only Teddy Owen to beat, when,| in some miraculous manner, -he sent it flying over the bar, and into the Friare field. Coming again instantly after the goal-kick, Tom Parry darted on, and shot with tremendous force for goal, but Bob Roberts darted in, charged the shot down, and then vol- leyed far up the field. Off went Dick Owen and Jimmy Jones with the ball, but a faulty pass landed the ball across the field at. the toes of Charlie Parry, who ponderously punted back right into the home goal-mouth. Then followed one of Bangor's characteristic dashes, and up the field they swept, nothing stopping them, but Jimmy Jones' final shot at goal way tame. Buckland, however, re- captured the ball, and drove in strongly, but Price was all there, and Tracy was not troubled. After a spell of defence, Bangor again attacked fiercely, aii a Richie Jones and; Johnny Bach made a fine and dashing move forward, the former sending in a champion shot along the ground, but Charlio Parry was lying in wait, as cool as a rock, and deliberately kicked clear, and Oswestry raced away to the other end, where Teddy Owen received an express shot from Goodrich, but caught, and kicked clear in brilliant fashion. Still pressing, Oswestry stretched the home defence to the utmost, and so hotly was the attack pressed home that Jack Arridge headed dead into his own goal, but once again the little Bangor goalkeeper proved his value to his side by nimbly catching the ball, and swiftly getting rid of it. Still Oswestry raged in front of the home goal^ till Buckland, imitating Di Itooerts' tactics, ma.d a. plunge into the fray, and brought the ball clear, finishing up with a forward pass to Jimmy Jonesi. With a tremendous sprint Jimmy rac;Tmz along the touch-line, beating everybody, till Charlie Parry came up to him. Jimmy nicely tricked the burly international, and then sent 4 superb shot swinging right along the goal mouth. Everybody was beaten, and Tracy himself was paralysed at the imminence of the danger, but all tlv4 home for- wards failed also, and the magnificent chance was lost, and the ball passed harmlessly across the goal- mouth, and behind. Bangor now were really dF Edw r forced a corner dangerous, and Teddy EdwardiM foroed a corner with a superb return from midfield, which Willie Lewis headed just over the bar. A couple of fine returns by Lewis a jradi Buckland led to another warm attack on the visitors' goal, und? the ball wa. just going over the line, when Dick 0,??l dashed forward, captured it, and., with the same movement, dropped it right in front of Tracy. Price cleared .1? t expense of a comer, whi^h led to nothing. And so raged the play, till, just a, minute from half-time, the Oswestry left-wing got Arridge, Buckland, and Bob Roberts in turn, and afterwards in unimn, failed to stop them, and then Teddy Edwards came to their assistance. He too ww completely helpless, and Tom Parry, brushing him ?si e, darted from the middle of the Bangor half, straight for the Baag.r goal. Ted Owen watched T?m coming, and did not do what he ought to have done, viz., run out, but waited in goal, and Parry, never losing his head for a moment, ran right under the bar before he shot. Then, however, ho nearly spoilt the whole affair, for, kicking with terrific force, he nearly sent the ball over instead of und'er the bar. W. just low enough, however, and the, ball striking the roof of the net, dropped down to the ground, and, Teddy Owen was) beaten, and the score stood: Oswestry, one goal; Bangor, niL Two seconds from the restart Goodrich again bested Buckland and Arridge in the easiest fashion, and was running into goal, when Bob Roberts stopped him, just as the whistle announced half-time. The second-half was a curious display. In the main, Oswestry showed up better than- did Bangor, but the latter were frequently dangerous, and-, ten minutes after the restart, Buckland and Lewis com- bined in a grand bit of half-back play, and Buck- land crossed to Johnny Baoh. Johnny is a dan- gerous man at that end of the field, and, running in, with a shot like that with which he scored,, or enabled Riohie Jones to score against Rhyl the previous Saturday, he banged the ball at the goal. Charlie Parry stopped the shot, but it caIDe into the open, and, like a cat, Richie Jones darted for- ward, and without an instant's pause, flashed it into the net along the ground, Tracy being com- pletely helpless. The crowd cheered tremendously, and hopes began to be entertained that Bangor, who were now playing to their favourite end, would win the game, but a few minutes' further play put a complete extinguisher on that idea, for it was then seen that the Some defence was exceedingly rocky- Still, with the aid of Teddy Owen, who got rid of some half-dozen nasty shots, and by good luck, they managed to keep their score unsullied for UJme twenty-five minutes. Then, however, the visitors doggedly pegging -way on the left crept up, and at last Jack Arridge was I&Yed to a ?,tndstill. Bob Roberts and Lewis, Buctlaild and Ted Edwards in turn failed miserably to stop the Oswestry left- wing, and away went Goodrich and Butterton into the corner. At this stage a little sprint on the part of anybody on the home side would have -f-uv,a the situation, but the whole of the defence was evidently beaten, and some of them actually stood still while the two wingers worked the ball nearer the goal. Then it waF middled, and there was a tli, !t4 Teddy Owen tried to fall on the ball as it was shot in, but he was too late, and it passed just under his body into the net, and the score stood: Oswestry, two goals; Bangor, one. A minute later there was just such another similar display on the other side of the field the ball was clumsily middled, and kicked in, and there was a rush, and Teddy Owen was simply swamped by the visiting forwards, who simply tumbled over him as they again netted the ball. Oswestry, three goal Bangor, one. Then the came was resum4 and, about ten minutes later, the home forwards raced in a line down tq the other end. The as&At W?s furious; so was the defence, and for some time it looked as if the latter would- prevail, but Jimmy Jones, with Di Roberts-like tactics, suddenly took the whole affair into his own hands, or, ratherL feet, and, rtmning into the crowd, forced an openl iag, and, with a shot powerful enough to go through a man, flashed the ball into the Oswestry net amid a perfect tornado of cheers. Thii ended the scoring, though Bangor came, on several occa- sions, near doing the trick again, as did Oswestry, for that matter. But at the end of the game one of the home lot's conquering rushes took place, and, in an instant, the Oswestry defence was completely pulverised, and Richie Jonea drove in a shot which shook the redoubtable Tracy in his tracks. He saved brilliantly, nevertheless, but the rage for goals was ion the (home forwards, and on they surged, and there was a melee right in front of goal. Then the whistle sounded, and the play stopped. To my mind, the referee whistled for a fout!t?oug? I ???d not seen one, and the players were evidently of t?e same opinion, as wao the crowd, ??nd everybody waited to see what was up. Then one of the Oswestry men cried "Hurray," and began to nm off th q fieI7. In a while, some of his mates did the same thing, and then the crowd, and the Bangor players followed suit, and, the referee waJl{¡ng after them, the game came to an abrupt termination, as some say, three minutes before the time was up. Bangor might. not have equalised in that three minutes, but it was odd. on them doing it. However, the game ended in the manner I have de,wribed>, with Je visitors deservedly vic- torious by a score of three to two.

LLANFAIR P.G. v. CARNARVON RESERVES. The Carnarvon Reserves met the Ltanfair Rovers on Saturday last to replay the second round in the jimior oup-te for the North Wales Coast Cup, the previous match naving been played at Carnar- von, when the Llanfair P.O. team entered a pro- test on account of the ground not having been marked. The protest, which was supported at the meeting of the Council by Mr W. Aubrey Thomas, of the National Schools, and Mr W. Henry Prit- chard, butcher, was- upheld by the Council at Con- way on the 7th November, under the presidency of Mr Griffiths, Llanrwst. The Llanfair team was weaker than when playing Carnarvon about a month ago. Tlte weather on Saturday was unfavourable, and the gate poor,, but the groundJ was in excellent condition, and was properly marked by efficient men When play started, at 2.30, at the exact call of Mr T. C. Lewis, Bangor, who acted, to the satisfaction of all, as referee, the wind was howl- ling, and the drizzling rain almost smothered the spectators, and, although play was fairly fast, and a hard game played throughout, nothing much was cone, until, from a good run down by Pierce and Pioton, with a pass to T. J. Loomes, a goal was scored by him for Llanfair. In another five minutes T. J. Lcomes again scored for Llanfair, and ?u about three minutes a penalty kick WWl given Carnarvon just ten yards from Llanfair goaL =nI Space, the custodian, stopped an exceedingly sharp sl»ot by one of tlie Carnarvon haif-backf. The Carnarvon men now kept the ball up for about a quarter of an hour, but the goalkeeper was in fine form, and stopped several good shots, but eventually Carnarvon scored. The Reserves were now playing well together, and the combination of the Llanfair hacks and halves kept away a number of praise- worthy attempts, -but at last the Carnarvon team scored another goal. The final result was a drawn game of two goals each. It is understood that an attempt will be made to have it replayed at Ban- gor to-morrow.

FRLVRS v. UNIVERSITY COLLEGE 2nd XI. The above match wa,? played on the University ground in Lower Bangor, wretched weather prevail- ing. Ti e game was very stubbornly contested, and was of an even character throughout. The result was a win for the College, the score being University, two goals; Friars, one goal.

{To the FAitQr. J Sir,-My attention liavii,.g been drawn by several ot your readers) to some remark' by your football correspondent, "En Avant," in his report of the match, Rhyl v. Bangor, on the 17th ult., and which appeared in your paper of the 24th ult., may I bo allowed a small space in your next issue to reply to sa.me1 "En Avant's" remarks re my capabil.tiell I pass over for what they are woiili, but surelv "he must be a comparatively new hand at tho business" (to quote his own wcrds) if lie is serious when he asserts that I was wrong on two occasions in allowing RJiyl men "taking a frce-kick to pass the ball back to one of their own side." If "En Avant" will take the trouble (and I don't think it will do him any harm, possibly some good) to read the "Laws of the Game," he will find "that a free- kick may be taken in any direction the player pleases, and not of necessity kicked towards tho opponents' goal." if "Ell Avant" was not aware of this I don t think he should criticise my ruling, and give your readers the impression that I w" wrong. It is nyach easier to in.til an idea, ?f thi kind into the ,11011d", of the spectator t,h"n it is to disabuse them of it. I hope that "Erl Avant" will in future make himself thoroughly conversant with the "Laws of the Game," etc., before taking to task, myself or any other refeice, as considerable hanll is done to a referee's reputation by such remarks as the ones I write of,-I am, etc., Holywell, olywell, C. E. PEART JONES. December 8th, 1900.

> CARNARVON ESTATE DIEPtTT.3 An action arising out of a family dispute over the property of the late Richard Hugh Roberts, of Carnarvon, came on for trial on Wednesday, in the Queen's Bench Division, 1'Jl'o.; lir Justice Wills and a special jury. This was an actum by iMies Margaret Roliertd against Messirs MdlQr, Smith, and May, solici- tors, of London, claiming £600 dalIlagl\ for ai- 5 leged negligcuce, < r the return of S300 with interest*. Plaintiffs statement of claim saitl that, in 1895 plaintiff's brother, Robert Roberts, who lived -at N«wcastle, brought an action in chancery against the plaintiff's s ifter, Annie It,, berts, as administratrix of the estate of Richard Hugh Roberts, deoeaved, for tho administration of the estate, aawl in March, 1807, Annie Roberta was committed to Holloway Prison for contempt of oourt. The firm of Carter, Roberts, Vincent, and Co., of Carnarvon, acted for Roliort Ro- berts. On the 8toho of April, 1897, plaintiff ar- ranged with R tl'rt Rolierts that he should oept £8()() in satisfaction of his share of the estate, and instructed the defendants, as her oodicitoT8, to oarry out the arrangement, and toiJ apply to the court for the release of Annie Ro- berts upon payment of £800. Plaintiff ftirtlicr instructed defendants not to agree or consent, to the payment of any costs to Robert Roberts. Notwithstanding that, on the 12th April, 1897, the defendants agreed with Hamlin and 00.. London agw),to for the solicitors of Robert Ro- berts, that as a condition to the release of Annia Roberts plaintiff should, pay them their costs as between solicitor and client, mid that p'.ain- tiff should lodge as seourity for those, costs £000. On the 14th April, 1897, defendants instructed counsel to a-pp-ly- to Mr Justice Bowen for th-j release of Annie Roberts from custody upon tho terms that in addition to the IffiHI1CIJf¡ of £800 to Robert Itot.1.au.. tho sum of £ 300 should bo deposited in the name of the defendants Fr. security for e><t:;1s, and consented to an order to that effect without the authority of the plaintiff. Defendants infotmed ph-.intiff that her sister eeuld not be released from prboin un!e»! plaintiff handed to Them the sum of £ 300. Ac- cordingly she handed them £ 300, hut -he ex- pressly instructed defendants not to apply ,try part of that sum towards the payment of R*v- lyerb Roberts's costs. Defendant*, however, after obtaining the JB300 from her, without her authority consented to an older directing that the costs of Robert Roberts t-hnu d lie paid onit of the E", and refused to return tho money to her. Defendants, in their defence, said Annie Roberts was committed to prison, for fail- ing to pay into court £ 2400, the cash balance of the estate, received by her as administratrix. They said the arrangement made with Robert Roberts waa that, he should receive fati- faction of his shore of the estate. S800 and hit costs as between solicitor and client, and plain- tiff signed a dot-uinent authorising that arran2- ment, so tbt her sister might he released from prison. Plaintiff replied th,t the d'd not un- derstand the effect of the document, and that she signed it under pro:-ure, a" the dcfelHlant!4 told her that. her sister would not be released unless she signed it. Plaintiff was called in support of her elniiii, hltt in the (UIT"E> of her crosM-examin-ation by Mr Montagu Shearman, for the defence, tho jury stopped the. < as-? 8]1<1 expressed the opinion that there wav n(, foundation fox the plaintiff* claim. Mr Justice Wills agreed tho plaintiff hcl made out no <„-oie. He thought, this was one d the most tfliockiyg e-srw" he br*d ever heard. It was perfectly s5i«-king to mnke such oJ>arge« against a reNr('f,,a1.1{' finn of solicitors. Every- thing showed that the wlu-lo transaction was done quite honestly and abovo-board. l Verdict and judgment for the defendants ac- cordingly, with costs.

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