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BARRY AND CADOXTON LOCAL BOARD.

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BARRY AND CADOXTON LOCAL BOARD. SPECIAL MEETING OF MEMBERS. THE PROPOSED ACQUIRING- OF CADOXTON COMMON. IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. TENDERS ACCEPTED FOR PUBLIC SLAUGH- TER-HOUSE, MORTUARY, ,fcc. A special meeting- of the Barry and Cadoxton Local Board was held at the Local Board-room, Cadoxton. Barrv. on Tuesday afternoon at three o'clock. There" were present. Councillor J. C. Mesfsrftt (chairman), and Messrs. P. J. 0 Donnell. •T. Rolvison. G. Thomas. J. Barstow. AA. Thomas '.Cadoxton). J. J. Williams. J. A. Hughes (clerk). r<r. Nerd1 (medical officer), and J. C. Pardoe vanrvcy" ), THE UADOXTOX COMMONS QUESTIOX. The first business being to consider a recom- mendation of the Commons Committee with reference to Cadoxton Common. Dr. 0 Donnell said he had had a letter from General Lee, chair- tnan of the committee, in which he said he would he unable to to attend owing to a previous engage- ment to be in Herefordshire. He had asked him (Dr. O'Donnell) to move that the recommendation of the Commons Committee, VlZoo that the Board should take the necessary steps for the purpose of Setting a provisional order for the acquiring of the Common should be adopted. He mignt say that the committee had gone very minntcly into the subiect. and General Lee and himseif haa also seen Mr Forrest as representing the Lady of the Manor, and that gentleman had given it as his opinion that the securing of a provisional order "ft-on Id be the best step to take. Mr. Forrest had also had the opinion of counsel before him, and he agreed that that the bost- method of moving m the matter was as the committee recommended, lie begged to formally move that the clerk take the fcecegsarv stens for the acquiring of a provisional order in accordance with the opinion of counsel for thetakino-cver of the Common.—Mr.AA .Thomas (Cadoxton) seconded the resolution.—Mr. Earsiov, flrew attention to the following1 words in the counsel's opinion:—"A provisional oraer ^inade Under this Act would not enpower th3 boairl directly or indirectly to sell any portion of the common," He asked what provision was made as fesrards the lower common near Cadoxton Moors. Did the recommendation of the committee refer to the whole —Dr. O'Donnell replied in the ainnnn- tivg —Mr Barstow There is it not proposed to fell that i-The Clerk. in reply drew Mr. Bar-tow s attention to Section I. of counsel s opinion which referred to the provisional orcier whereas Mi. barstow had quoted from Section II. The words of counsel were. If the Board acquire the whole of both parts of the common for ftte purpose of a recreation ground, but find it unnecessary or Undesirable to lay out or retain the whole of the land for that purpose, the Local Government Board would not be likely to object to the sale of the superfluous portions to the Deck Company or any other purchaser. —Mr. Robinson: Has the committee conferred with the commoners ?-Dr. O'Donnell: No. sir. we have not.—Mr. Robinson I think we ought to consult them.—Dr. O'Donnell: That will come after. If you point out the com- moners probably we will consult them. The com- mittee have not had instructions from the Board to do so. so we thought it unnecessary.—Mr. Bobinson I certainly did ask the committee to confer with them, and I understood General Lee to say that the committee would so. I don t know who the commoners arc. but it is very likely that some of the commoners will make good their claims, and we don't want to get into autagoni-m afterwards. Besides the Board might get in- volved in a law-suit, as has been the case in other places.—Mr. Barstow Several of the commoners have intimated to me after reading the reports in the papers that they understood that a meeting of Commoners would be held. Mr. George Thomas Said he thought they onght to be obliged to the committee for the action they had taken. If he Understood Dr. O'Donnell's proposition correctly, it was that the Board should move. under the Bublic Health Act. 1875. for a provisional order to SquiretheCommon.He^houlclliketo point out that there were about 35 acres of Common land, part on the top and part on the lower ground. He thought the Barry Company had compulsory powers to pur- chase the lower portion, and if they "went on with the new docks they would put these pew ers into force. If the Board got the compulsory order, the Price of the land was to be settled in the usual legal way. and he supposed they would have to go Under the Land Consolidation Act in the ordinary Wr\y, The matter won] d then be entirely out of their bands, and they would have to pay the price Whether it was a small or a large one. They all boped to get the Common for a small price, as it Was for the benefit of the public. He noticed that instead of proceeding under the clause which Dr. O'Donnell had moved. Mr. Glen, the counsel, said there was another course the Board might adopt. Counsel's words were. Instead of proceeding as above-mentioned, the Board might, without ac- qtlirina" the Common, obtain a certain control over it under the Commons' Act. 1876. If the popula- tion of their district exceeds 5.000 according to the last census, they may. with the consent of persons representing at least one-third in value of such interests in the Common as are proposed to be affected, apnly to the Board of Agriculture (ill whom are now vested the powers of the Commissioners under the Commons Act. lR7ô) for a provisional order for the regulation of the Com- mon (see Section 8 of the Act) and such pro- visional order may. among other things, invest the Bocal Board with such powers of management or other powers as may be expedient. A provisional order under this Act would not empower the Board directly or indirectly to sell any poraon or the Common." Now he did not think that any member of the Board wanted to sell any portion or the Common. It was land which belonged to the Public, and should be kept open for the benefit ot the public. If any of it should be sold, the money should be used for acquiring public land some- where else. Continuing his quotation from Mr. Glen, the speaker said that under Section 9 of the Act the Board of Agriculture were directed to issue information and directions as to the mode in which the application should be made. He said he did Hot wish to move any amendment, but he thought they should fairly discuss the matter from all its standpoints. It "was a most important question, and might mean the expenditure of a large amount of money. — Mr. Barstow -Baid as far as he knew the views of the Com- moners, they were quite willing to fill in With any decision the Board might come to. The Clerk said there was one difficulty about getting the consent of one-third of those who were inter- csted. because they could not find out who were the Commoners. A great many people claimed to be Commoners, and the question was if they could get the consent of one-third of those who claimed to be Commoners, for the purpose of satisfying the Board of Agriculture, would that be sufficient ?—Mr. G. Thomas I think the Lady of the Manor mav be said to have one-third interest. —Mr. Robinson Did Mr. Forrest give any opinion as to what course we should take in reference to the views of Mr. Glen ?—Dr. O'Donnell He said the only way to secure the Common would be by Setting a provisional order nnder the Public Health Act. Mr. Forrest is thoroughly in accord with the committee.—The Chairman The object the Board hive in view is to get this Common laid out for re- creation purposes. If we can get as much control over the Common as we want without buying the land, then by all means let us do so.—The Clerk Was' understood to say in reply to the chairman that the course mentioned by him and Mr. George Thomas would not give the Board sufficient control over the Common for the purpose of laying it ouo as a recreation ground, without probably compensating the Com- moners.—Dr. O'Donnell agreed.—Mr. G. Thomas Raid by adopting the recommendation for a pro- visional order they might be committing them- selves to the expenditure of a latere sum or money, and he did not think they would be doing their duty to the ratepayers unless they thoroughly dis- cussed the other aspects of the question. Once the Board had given notice to treat, the whole question of value would be entirely out of their hands, and the Board would be bound to pay what Was awarded. Th y should exhaust the paragraph he had read from the counsel's opinion, and see if they could not get control in another way.—Mr. Barstow. in agreeing with some remarks of Dr. O'Donnell. said he did not believe the Commoners Would look for any compensation.—Mr. Robinson said he would like to have a week or two to con- sider the matter before coming to a decision, and Vrould like to talk over the matter with others who knew more about the matter than himself. He had only seen the counsel's opinion that morn in?.—Dr. O'Donnell remffrked that the question bad already been adjourned from time to time.— Mr. J. J. 'Williams Does the committee recom- mend where the money is to come from for Purchasing the Common.—Mr. Robinson A private Act alone will cost £800. — The Clerk It is not proposed to have a private Act. sir.The Chairman thought the committee should find out What control the board would have under -the Act of 1878. as mentioned bv Mr. George Thomas. If it was all they wanted, then he did not see that it would be necessary for them to go further.— Mr. W. Thomas (Cadoxton) I would not spend fid. upon the Common. If you spend :0.000 upon it you won't make it any healthier or of any more benefit to the inhabitants of the district.—Mr. Bohiuson wished it to be distinctly understood that he was in favour of acquiring the common. —Mr. J. J. Williams said there was no doubt that the common had been abused for a great number of years. It was quite plain that some control hould be secured over it, but he thought that if the local board were vested with the powers under the Act of 1876 that would be sufficient.-11r. Robinson I propose that we don't come to any decision until the next meeting.—Mr. George Thomas proposed that further information should be secured as regards the powers under the Act of 1876. and the powers of the Board of Agriculture. —Mr. Robinson slid as that would be deferring the mat: 3 r he wodd second it.—Mr. G. Thomas: I wish to p ,j ,It out that I don't wish to show the ? lightest disrespect to the com- mittee. On the contrary, I think the board should be extremely obliged to them for the trouble they have taken.—Dr. O'Donnell: If the matter is not decided to-day, I don't think there will be time to make the application, so the matter will be delayed for a year.—The Clerk I think there will be time, sir, but it will be very sharp work.—Dr. O'Donnell having consented to the adjournment of the discussion. Mr. G. Thomas's motion was unanimously agreed to. A QUESTIOX OF THE QUALITY OF PAVIXO. The Public Works Committee recommended that at the top of Kenilworth-road, pavement should be laid down in the private improvements scheme. and the present system of brick paving removed. It appeared that there was also this brick paving in Oban-street. a thoroughfare adjoining. A letter had been received from Mr. S. H. Williams, repre- senting the owners, and the resolution the com- mittee had come to was—"That if the owners of the land in Kenilworth-road will enter into an agreement similar to that entered into with the Barry Estate Company, to put down the pavements when required, that pavements be only put down on one side of the road where houses are built." —Mr. G. Thomas thought it would be a great hardship, as a substantial kind of paving had been laid down. to remove it. He begged to move that the matter be referred back to the committee, and that the surveyor should report to them on the fitnese of the pavement.—Dr. O'Donnell seconded. He said the bricks in Oban- street might be allowed, but they were uneven. and would have to be relaid. However, he would object to the brick paving in Kenilworth-read, as it was positively dangerous.—The Chairman said he would consent to its being referred back. but he would certainly object to brick paving, and he would bring evidence forward which, he thought, would convince the committee.—The motion was carried. A VALUER APPOINTED. The next business was to appoint a valuer in reference to the claims against the Board for damage to the land and crops at Biglis Farm and other places, unavoidably caused by the construc- tion of the main drainage scheme.—Mr. Barstow proposed that Mr. W. V. Huntley, Welsh St. Donatt's, should be appointed.—Mr. G. Thomas proposed Mr. John Thomas, of Cowbridge.—Dr. O'Donnell seconded.—Mr. W. Thomas (Cadoxton) pointed out that Mr. John Thomas was agent for the Bassett Estate, of which Biglis Farm formed part.—Mr. G. Thomas withdrew his proposition, and seconded Mr. Barstow's motion that Mr. Huntley should be appointed.—This was unani- mously agreed to. SLAUGHTER-HOUSE, PUBLIC MORTUARY, &C. Mr. G. Thomas moved that the report of the Slaughter-house Committee should be adopted.— It was recommended that the tender of Mr. J. Lysaght of £ 139 should be accepted for a tempor- ary slaughter-house subject to his satisfying the surveyor as to scantlings. A letter had been re- ceived from him in reference to the matter which was satisfactory.—Mr. Thomas said he thought that the accommodation would meet the actual necessities of butchers, &c., for some little time, until the Board would be in a position to give more mature consideration to the question of the erec- tion of a permanent building. The amount ex- pended would not altogether be a loss to the ratepayers as the Board were empowered to charge reasonable fees to the butchers for the use of the slaughter-house. He moved that the tender be accepted, and that they should get iron beams at an extra cost of £45. The surveyor would get the foundation dug, an ashplnlte paving laid, and the drainage constructed. Tin surveyor, accord- ing to instructions, had prepared plans for a cart shet, steam roller shed. temporary public mortuary, and tool-house, and Mr. Lysaght hr.d offered to construct these at a cost of £9; The surveyor said this was less if anything in proportion to the cost of the slaughter-house, so he (Mr. Thomrs) did not think they should apply for any other tenders. The committee also recommended that a 23ft. road should, be made from B.irry-road to Court- road, and that gates be placed at either end of the road.—Mr. Barstow seconded, but suggested that the road should be made a public one.—This was objected to.—The report was unanimously adopted. ALLOTMENTS. A letter was read asking the reason the allot- ments question had been shelved —The Clerk was deputed to reply that the Board were unable to let land for allotments on the proposed site of the Local Board offices, kc., as under the Act they were bound to realise all expenses incurred which would he impossible unless they let the land at about 3s. 6d. a perch, whereas the general charge for allotments was Is. a perch.—Mr. G. Thomas who stated that he had let the whole of his land—which was available for that purpose—for allotments that day. suggested that the writer of the letter and others desiring allotments should 1>3 asked to point out any land which might be secured, and the Board would be pleased to lend every assistance.—Mr. W. Thomas (Cadoxton) Are we bound to find allotments.'—The Clerk We are bound to try and do so. CADOXTOX SCAVENGING. Messrs. Gray and Amos, until recently the Cadoxton scavengers, appeared before the Board in reference to the claim of £;7 made by Mr Jones for damage to gate and land. alleged to" have been caused by Messrs. Gray and Amos, by the depositing of night soil. They characterised the claim as absurdly high.—The Chairman informed them that the Board had written to Mr. Jones asking for full particulars of the claim, but he suggested that in the meantime they should go and see Mr. Jones and try to come to some arrangement.— There was also the question of some damage done by the same contractors to some curbing and paving, but it appeared that the claim had not yet been sent in.—The amounts of damage will be deducted from the payments due to the contractors. This was all the business, and the Board rose.

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