The South Wales Star

"A CRUSADE AGAINST MANU- FACTURED GRIEVANCES." Such, according to a leading article which appeared in Wednesday's We stern Mail, is the protest which Mi- T. E. Ellis and others have made in our columns against the recent appoint- ment of a monoglot Englishman to a Welsh County-court judgeship. How real the grievance is will be seen from' the testimony of such men as Ml. Ellis and Sir John Llewelyn, Sir Edward Reed, and Principal Edwards. So far is the grievance from being a manu- factured one. that it has been so long felt that the promoters of the Act which established County-courts in Wales took it for granted that Welsh-speaking judges would be appointed, +hat in 1872 Mr. Osboi-re Morgan's resolution to the sameeM was pasted by Parliament and oir> cd OJ. the minutes of the House; and that ■ +here has since been a muoual understanding 1-11nt ['11 judges in "Wales shot1 Id possess a know- ledge of Welsh, The waiter twits Mr. Ellis with comparing Mr. Betesford's appointment to the appointment of a Russian to dis- pense justice in England. This, the wrLer declarer shows the standpoint from whi-;h Mr. Ellis looks at the question the Saxon ;'i to him as much a foreigner as the Russian is to the Englishman It simply part of the objectionable = cry, Wale- for the Welsh/' and to listen to Mr. T. E. Ellis they in'ght be led to believe +hat they (the people of Wales) had the power to compel England to yield io their demands." Mr. El^s was quite ri::5ht in comparing Mr. .Beresford's piomot'on to the appointment of a Russian, ignorant of English, as County-court judge in an English district, The appcintment would be objectionahle;not because hewas aRus- ian, but because he kne .v no English. We do not cave whether it is an Eo Ashman or a Welsh- man who receives these appointments in Wales all we insist on is that he should be conversant with the language of the people. We do be- lieve in spite of the 11 est'>rn JlaiZ, that we have the power to compel England to yield to our demands. We cannot imitate the compulsion which the Scok, in Robert Bruce's time, used to remove the English judges from Dumfries but we po sess a surer and a stronger power to compel England to yield to our domands. We have evey J a ■ i.h in the innate sense of justice of Englishmen. That such grievances as these exist in Wa^s is due to ignorance on the part of Englishmen geneially of the res1 lnudshio and inju'.dce which they infl'ct on Welshmen. We feel convinced that if the Welsh members do their duty, as they should, in this matter, and bring the whole question befoie the nodce of Pa liament, Mi. Cecil Bevesford will be tionsfened to an Eng- lish ci-cait at the fiiat opportunity, and Wales will be spared such ill-advised appointments 111 I atUl e.

LOCAL NOTES. It is the duty and the privilege of a newspaper to bring before its readers any matter which may tend to improve the district which the paper geives. We would like to suggest to the Local Board, and through them to the inhabitants of the town whom they represent, the desirability of providing a public park in the Holton district. Cadoxton will always have its beautifully situated Common. Barry is within comparatively easy distance of Porthkeiry Park, Coldknap, or Whit- more Bay. Holton is likely to be the most crowded and thickly populated portion of our town, and the provision of a public park would be a very great attraction. There is a large field belonging to the Wenvoe Casole Estate opposite the new Board Schools at Holton, which would make ian excellent public park. The field is Íll the very centre of the district, and slopes at an easy gradient towards the dock. There are doubt- less other fields which would suit the purpose, but/ we mention this one as it seems specially saitable. The provision of a public pleasure ground would greatly improve all property in the immediate neighbourhood, and if the landowners would meet the Local Board the matter might easily be carried through. Barry has already a name for being energetic and modern, not only commercially but also in municipal matters. e have free public reading rooms, and will have before long a free library, and it is intended to have a rate-supported hospital. Let us hope that the public authority will do what every wise local authority is doing nowadavs, and make arrangements to obtain what will be in the near future a breathing space, or lung, in the most congested portion of a large town. When the Barry Railway Company first of all applied to Parliament for power to make a dock, the Board of Trade insisted on Barry Harbour being- left as a harbour of refuge for pilot boats in rough weather. The company bad to undertake to keep the harbour from silting, and to deposit £10,000 with the Board of Trade as a guarantee that this would be done. Boats can only get into Barry Harbour with the tide, and since the two breakwaters at the entrance of the dock have been constructed, pilot boots can lie under their shelter just as well as in the harbour. Under these cir- cumstances, the Bairy Railway Company would, in our opinion, be justified if they applied to Parlia- ment for power to form an embankment from near the Ship Hotel across to Barry Island, and fill in the portion of the harbour thus enclosed. It would be a great advantage to the Barry Railway Company, as it would give them a large tract of most valuable ground, which would be of the greatest value for sidings, and especially when the Vale of Glamorgan Railway is made (as it is certain to be). It would be an auvantage to the public, as the harbour, except at full tide, is simply a sea of mud, and the proposed alteration would give better access to Barry Island. Indeed, there would be no reason that we know of why the Barry Rail- way should not be extended to Barry Island, and a station built there. The portion of the harbour which would not be enclosed is sandy rather than muddy, and it would form a small bay, which would not be unsightly, like the present harbour. A new edition of Mr. T. Greenwood's well- known Manual has been issued. We quote the following paragraph :— Gallant little Wales, con- sidering that there are not many large towns in the Principality, does not come out amiss in its public library work. rJ he total number of adop- tions of the Acts is yet short of a dozen. Wales and Scotland had a national system of education long before in England we had reached the same stage, and the people of both countries have for generations been known as earnest and eager friends of educational and social progress. As will be seen at the end of this chapter, the movement is spreading in quite a number of places in Wales, and in the course of a few years the number of adoptions is likely to increase. In no part of the United Kingdom would a small Government grant be more acceptable and useful than in Wales. The penny rate in the small districts is not sufficient to stock and maintain a public library. Wales should agitate this question of a State subsidy, and urge the point upon its Parliamentary repre- sentatives." Speaking of Barry and Cadoxton, it is said :—" This is a district near Cardiff, and the Acts were adopted in March, 1891. The voting was as follows :—Number in favour of the adop- tion c 2 the Acts, 392; number against, 87: number of voting papers returned unsigned, or in block, or not properly filed up, 179. The Public Libraries' Committee, to whom ilie Local Board have delegated all their powers under tne Acts, consists of seven members of the Board and six of the general public. It has been determined to build a puV-'c library at Barry Dock, the centre of the district, and to have branch reading-rooms at Barry and Cadoxton. The wockbas been warmly and spiritedly taken up by the committee, and the library will soon be in operation." At the special meeting of the Pontypridd branch of the South Wales and Monmouthshire Unrty of Oddfellows, held the Other evening, Mr. W. Davies directed notice to a very just grievance of Friendly Societies. "UP was sorry," he said, that public bodies did not give Friendly Societies the encou- ragement they deserved, for such societies had been formed m order to encourage tbrifuy habits amongst the working men. The members put money by in order that they might be able to live when disabled or in need, without appealing to the parish rates yet the Board of Guardians refused, if a man was a member of a club to give him any relief so that a man who was not a member of a club might obtain 12s. a week from the parish, whereas his fellow-worker would have to depend upon, say 2s. 6d. per week club money." No wonder the assembled members cried Shame on such a system. It simply means that the Board of Guardians places a premium on extravagance, im- providence, and unthrift. If a working man sacrifices some creature comforts, or perhaps luxuries, in order to qualify as a member of a friendly society, the parish authorities refuse to give him any aid. But if be wasccs his lvocey on riotous living, or if he is improvident and reckless enough to spend all without laying anything by for a rainy day, the Board o: Guardians will step in in the day of edversity and supply him with more than his thrifty fellow-workman, by abstin- ence and self-sacrifice, has been able to prepare for himself. We consider that the question of pro- viding universal relief to the sick and aged poor, without impairing the usefu11)ess of friendly societies or the independence of the working men, is one of the greatest questions of the day. We have as yet seen no definite solution to the problem either in Mr. Alfred Thomas' scheme or in Mr. Chamberlain's. May we direct Mr. Thomas' at- tention to the problem, and ask for a solution ?

NATIONAL INSTITUTION'S BILL, It is desirable that gentlemen throughout the pri icipality who have received questions bearing on Mr.| Alfred Thomas's National Institution Bill shoald'retr'-n replies at once in oi der that arrange- ments may be made without delay for the next conference on the details of the Bill in pursuance of the resolution arrived ao by the Llandnndod Con- ference.

THE CARDIFF MUNICIPAL ELECTION NEXT MONDAY. BARRY ELECTORS- SUPPORT THE LIBERAL CANDIDATES! We wish to remind our readers that the polling of the Cardiff Municipal Election takes place next Monday. Those of our readers who have votes at any of the Cardiff wards should make st-enuous efforts to go to Cardiff and recoid their votes for the Liberal candidates. All Liberals should vote voce ior the following Cathays Ward, Charles Merritt South Ward, Dr. Alfred Rees Riverside Ward, F. J. Rea,an; Central Ward, F. II. Jotham Roath Ward, Augustus Lewi ;> Canton Ward, W. Lewis Grangetown Ward, John Gardner. Messrs. Jas. Munn (Adamsdown Ward), Jacob Comley (Splott Ward), and Ebenezer Beavan (Park Ward) are unopposed.

LEGAL JOBBERY AND THE WELSH LANGUAGE IMPORTANT LETTERS FROM PUBLIC MEN, We have much pleasure in publishing the follow- ing expressions of opinion from Welsh M.P.'s and other prominent public men who are connected with the administration of law :— LORD SALISBURY. 22nd October, 1891. SIR,—I am directed by Lord Salisbury to acknow- ledge the receipt of your letter of the 19011 instant and of the copy of the South Wales Star which you have been so kind as to send him, in which yon advocate the appointment of persons having a knowledge of Welsh to legal and other public offices in the Welsh-speaking portions of Wales.—I am, sir, yours obediently, SCHOMBEKG K. MCDOXXJVLL. W. Llewellyn Williams, Esq. Editor South Wales Star. THE RIGHT HON. J. CHAMBERLAIX" M.P. Highbury, Moor Green, Birmingham, 24th October, 1891. Sir..—I am directed by Mr. Chamberlain to acknow- ledge the receipt of your letter of the 23rd inst., and in reply to say that he is not sufficiently acquainted with the circumstances to which you call his attention to interfere. The question is one for discussion in the Principality, and if a grievance can be shown to exist he has no doubt that the Welsh members will be able to secure favourable attention to it from the Govern- ment.—I am. sir, yours obediently. JOHN WILSON. W. Llewellyn Williams, Esq. THE RIGHT HON. GEO. OSBORNE MORGAN. M.P. DEAR SIR,—In reply to your letter, I have no hesi- tation in saying that I regard the Anient of a County Court judge or a stipendiary ir- .trate, igno- rant of Welsh, ,,0 one of the ,Vels1. districts of the Principality as most reprehensible and improper, and I trust the matter will at once be brought before Parliament when it meets. I may men- tion that in the year 187211 called the attention of the House of Commons to this questionj and on that occasion the House passed unanimously a vote dis- approving of such appointments where competent persons acquainted with the Welsh language could be found to fill the poets in question.—Believe me, yours truly, G. OSBORKE MORGAN.. Brymbo Hfil, Wrexham, Oct. 23rd, 1891. SIR E. J. REED,. MP. Folkestone, October 26. DEAR Un. LLEWELLYN WILLIAMS,—The ques- tion you put to me is this How far do you consider a knowledge of the Welsh language essential as a quali- ficat'on for legal and other publicimprovements in the Welsh-speaking parts of Wales?" I have no hesita- tion in saying in reply that I consider a close and inti- mate acquaintance with the Welsh language is so essential to the administration of justice Í1} the Welsh- speaking paruS of Wales that I seriously doubt if justice can without it be fairly and LIlly dealt out to the-people by judges and others concerned in the ad- ministration and execution of the law and of public affairs. In Holyhead Island, for example, where I recently spent ten days, the native inhabitants always speak Welsh among themselves, and all sorts of mis- takes and misunderstandings arise when the English language alone is relied upon. For a judge who can- not understand Welsh to try these people-and the same thing holds true in hundreds of other parts of Wales—is to my mind a mockery of justice. I go further, and I say that there are many parts of Wales, mostly in the interior, where the Welsh language pre- vails, but wheie English is also understood by a "air proportion of the people, and I consider that even there justice wouid be best a 'ministered by conducting cases mainly in Welsh, with English interpretation certainly in all such cases the judges should h. with the Welsh tongue. 1 have never had a doubt about this matter, winch I have had the singular and great advantage of d-s- cussing on many occasions with the man who probably knows most about it—I mean His Honour Ju. ge Gwilym Williams, who has often illustrated to me the practical evils that ensue from a want of the Welsh language in such districts of Wales. I believe I have never lost an opportunity in the House of Commons of supporting the claim in ques- tion, and I am shocked to find tnat men men unquali- fied by a knowledge of Welsh are still appointed to judicial and other public posts in. Wales.—Yours obediently, E. J. Rj £ ED MABON, M.E. SIR,—Like yourself I hold a very strong, opinion with regard to the legal jobbery in the recent appoint- ment of a county-court judge to Mid-Wales. It is high time that the natural right to be judged by men who can understand and sympathise with them— men of their own tongue and nationality—should be extended to the Welsh people. Why siiouM-we be made to appear to be "aliens" in our own country? And it is a matter of great regret that in so recent an appointment these essential qualifications were so rudely set aside and ignored.—I am,.dear sir, yours truly, MAJJON. MR. ALFRED THOMAB, M.P. DEAR MR. WILLTAMS,—You have done- well in directing public attention in your admirable paper to the recent appointment 10 the County-court judgeship of Mid-Wa'es. The gentleman, who received the appointment may have many qualifications, but as he does not possess that indispensable retirement—a knowledge of the Welsh language—the transaction has been ptopeily characterised by you as 31. piece of "legal joboery." There was mutual nude-standing that no peison should be appointed to a judgeship or other responsible legal position in. Wales who did not possess a knowledge of the language, and g,tbe lecent appointment is in direct violation .of that under stand- standing it will be resented jby every patriotic- We1 mm. The Welsh language is the language of the people, and this last attempt to trample on our nationality and ignore our nai u-a1 civic rights win arouse a spirit of patriotism throughout the Principality that will make even the present Government regret their ill- advised preference, and def. ;r any future Government from i epeaiin;; such a fh, a )t blunder. I have made pro v'i jiou in the National Institutions Bill for patting a stop to this continued d>s. egard of our nationa1 rights; and should that EP1 become law I believe it will secure a satisfactory emanci- pation from a system of legal appointments that insults our na" om) spirit and, in the vesalt, gives ever-recur/ing occasion for those blunders in our criminal courts, and even in our civil courts, where poor people are concerned, which are a standing dis- giace to the present si a^e of legal administration in Wales.—I am, dear Mr. Williams, yours sincerely, ALFRED THOMAS. Bronwydd, October 28, 1891. MR. J. LLOYD MORGAN, M.P. •Reform Club, Pall Mall, S.W., October 26, j.89 ■. DEAR MR. WILLIAMS,—I would have replied to your letter before, but I have been away attending quarter sessions and have been rather busy. I have always said that, in my opinion, County-court judges in \Vales ought to possess a knowledge of the Welsh language. It is most important, as so many of the suitors a-e unrepresented 0Y solicitors and unable to speak English, in which cases the hardship appears most clearly. A judge with a knowledge of tne lan- guage is far better able to administer justice. I have particularly noticed in attending the County-courts be- fore Judge Gwilym Williams, how his knowledge of Welsh assists him in doing justice to suitors. Unfor- tunately the motion passed in the House of Commons on the subject has been ignored, and we can do nothing now but protest against it.—With very kind regards, yours ever truly, J. LLOYD MORGAN. W. Llewellyn Williams, Esq. MR. D. LLOYD GEORGE, M.P. SIR,—I cordially approve of the sentiments ex- pressed in your trenchant artiele on the above topic. Perhaps T could hardly go with you to the extent of placing knowledge of the Welsh language as the fore- most qualification for the holding of legd appoint- ments '11 Wales. For my part I woukl subordinate every linguistic accomplishment and mere teclmical acquaintance with the law to the one supreme con- sideration o" securing a. judge gifted with a judicial mind. I have known Welshmen promoted to magisterial positions, tolerably conversant with their mother tongoe^bot who were absolutely devoid of any capacity for the ar1jllsL;ng and balancing of the weight of eonflic,ing circumstances. I would rather be tried by Tin-Irish mufti than by Welshmen of that order. But are there no capable Welsh banisters available ? The elevation of English-speaking lawyers to the bench in Wales would imply otherwise. This imlendo con- tained in recent appointments is, I need hardly point out, a gratuitous and utterly unjustifiable libel urlon ouv national ba.\ Given such men as we can boast of. a knowledge of Welsh ought to be legarded as i ldis- pensable. No man with the slightest experience of proceedings in counts of justice can doubt the im- portance of the judge's 11nder¡;,ta.ncling tl1c bnguage jn which the evidence is given. Dismissing for the moment all reference to national sentiment (which the Philistine now sitting on the Woolsack invariably treats with such contempt) there exist strong practical reasons for preferring Welsh-speak:ng applicants. I have known cases decided by the interpretation of evidence. Justice often depends upon the construction of phrases of double or doubtful meaning, and where the judge happens to be an alien the interpreter in those cases becomes the sole arbiter of the destinies of the action.- Yours, &c.\ D. LLOYD-GEORGE. Brynawel, Criccieth. MR. LEWIS MORRIS, J.P. Penbryu, Carmarthen, Oct. 21st, 1891. Siu,—More years ago than I like to rec&ll, while Wales was still dormant, I wrote to the Timvs a letter, which appeared with editorial comments, Oil the absurdity of legal arrangements in Wales, and'the folly, and in criminal cases downright wickedness, of a trial in which the jury knew hardly a. word of the language of the judge or the counsel. I pointed out, moreover, the fact, that while the evidence of Welsh witnesses was always translated into English, that of English witnesses was never translated into the language of the Welsh-speaking peasants whose verdict was to decide the case. Nothing mc-ch Icame of it; we were 1111t awake as we are now, but the sentiments I then entertained I entertain still. Beyond the translation 0 H the English e vidence^ [ really do not know what can be I done short of reviving! the old Welsh Judicature, whicn was probably abolished with advantage. Eng- lish Judges-will never learn Welsh, whatever the Bar may do. Perhaps the Welsh Institutions Bill, of which 1 see it is the fashion to speak with some con- tempt—a contempt which I by noimeans share—might help us in this important matter. But as to County Courts, which are essentially the Courts of the Welsh people, denying with intimate matters of everyday con- cern, I can have no doubt whateverobat in most parts of Wales a knowledge of Welsh by the Registrar and the In,1ge would be most desirable, and in some cases absolutely essential. There is no lack of abls Welsh- speaking barristers at thi.s moment, and if Welsh were made a tu'>e q'(rl noh for such appointments, there wou'd soon IY.) a supemb..m(la,l1ce 0;' qualified persons. The case of stipendiary magistrates is even stronger, as they have to deal, not with the pecuniary, bit the civil or personal rights of the individual. But inasmuch as at present—excent, perhaps, in districts like the lthondda —these excellent functionaries administer justice chiefly in our large towns, where Welsh is, at any rate, not the exclusive language of the people, the .difficulty is less felt in these cases. But think for a moment what a farce- and denial of ijcstice it is that a man should be tired for his liberty or life; n a language which he does no. understand. Think of the horror of being tried by a Spanish or a German tribunal if all the poims of the law amI the critical ^portion of the evi- dence to be met were as meie jargon to the accused. conveying no singleime'pg'hie idea. Yet thk is what goes oil year by year throughout Wales, so that a murderer,, after sentence, has had to be brought back to court, inasmuch a.s.lle did no", or alleged he did not. understand a single word of the judge's sentenr-e of death. Why 'are Welshmen of less account than Hindoos ? In petty sessions, I fear much trouble and injustice mast i_'om:1. similar cause. In those at which I sit and of wirch I have recently acted as chairman, no difficulty prises, because tlw-e 's always one magistrate who speaks it fluently, while J myself understand it well enough and in every case where toe wit!1es8 desi *es to 3peak bis own lan- guage, tne Bench always allows him to do so, and have a competent interpreter ready at hand. But I am afraid this is not so everywhere, and where it is not. it is inevitable that there should frequently be serious miscarriages, of just'ee. AU I would suggest is moderation in this matter, and, beyond all, practica1 suggestions. rphere ra no wish, I am sure, to deny us our rights, and it is-in great part our own fault that we have not got them. The-.hateful old practice of send- ing to Parliament the most incompetent and useless candidate available^has, happily, become obsolete. The Welsh members have only to speak out to secure what is wanted. If for any cause they,will not, they, should should give place to those who will.—Yours truly, LEWIS MORRIS. PROFESSOR RHYS, M.A. OTFORD. B'Cbll. JesuT Oxon, 2"thOct.. 1891. DEAR WILLIAMS,—I a^.ee with you in t.iink'ng it highly unfair and inexpedient that a judge who knows no Welsh should be appointed to a Welsh cir- cuit. Of course 1. am speak'nj in. utter ignorance of the qualifications of Mr. Beresford in f ther respects.— Believe me, yours-truly, J. RHYS. PRINCIPAL T..C. EDWARDS, D.D.. B^LA COLLEGE. The Theological College, Bala, North Wales, October 23, 1891. DEAR SIR,—I agree with you that kno-wledge of Welsh is an essential qualification in any person, how- ever eminent-he may be, for legal and other public, a1 pointments hVle Welsh-speaking parts of Wales. It is now practically acknowledged in ecclesiastical ap- pointments. It is notorious that injustice is often unwittingly done in a court of lawr because the jury understand neither couruel nor judge. Thi& accounts, in a measure, for th-j tendency of a Welsh jury to acqaL i^he prisoner a^.inst the evidence of the judge's ■ mming ;r.. I take exception only to the implied inference that every appointment J.- a judge who does not how Weish is a job." It may be or it may not be. My belief is that those who make such appointments do not know the liar Iship they infist upon the Welsh people generaily. Fo" tnis reason I thank you ^'or raising the question and eliciting opinions upon it.— Yours laithfully, T- C. EDWARDS. To the Editor of the South Wales Star. sm: .T.. T: MjEWELYN, BART, Pen-lerga.re. Swansea, Oct. 23th, 1391. DEARf SHI,—In consequence of my absence from home I have not received the copy of the South Wales Star which yon tell me you have sent me. I have, however; received your letter of the 23rd this morning, and in ans wer to your question I beg to sav I have always considered a knowledge of the Welsh language desirable as a qualification for legal and some other public apptintments in the Welsh- speakipg parts of Wales. I am not prepared to go the length of saj ir.g it is essential, especially for all public appointmonts.butc''irr/spfl ribi'.o, aW" elsh-speak'nglofficial in the Welsh-speaking p.nvs of Wales is pieferable to an Englishman.:—I am, yours very truly, JOHN- T. D. LLEWELYX. MR. FR ANK EDWARDS, LIB»Etttu CASDiDA"'E FOR RAONOR3I1IRE. Knighton, Radnorshire, 26th October, 1831. PEA1! 3TH,:—In reply to. your letter, I qivte agree wir.h \w remark? on Legal Jobbery and the_ We'sh Language- In my opinion a knowledge of Welsh is an essentia) ruaUfication for the posits l oc a Coumy- court jadge in Wa'es. I„ is dep'orable that jadges should be appointed who do not understand the lan- gu.ag€;of many of those to whom they hpve to administer justice. I hope that tlrs subiect will be dealt with in such a manner that it will be impossible in fuLure for the opinions of Welshmen to be ignored or flouted on so- import-ant a point.—Yours faithfully, FR4.NK EDWARDS. The Editor South Wales Siar. MR. HERBERT THOMAS, J.P., BRISTOL. SIR,—I see that under the heading "Legal Jobbery and the Welsh," you open the columns of your ably conducted paper to an expression of opinion on a very interesting and important subject—that of, whether, for the administration u. jastice in Wales the appoint- ment of all public o'K ~ers should not be confincd to qualified persons farr'li? • with the Welsh language. This subject ;5 one which should be considered free from sentiment, Welsh no<»nal pride or esteem. H.ppily in our country all persons who are arraigned for offences in our cou. u" are presumed to be inuoce it until they aie proved tD be guilt". Tlrs being so, then for their defence it is not only desirable but it is also a moral obligation that in the case of an inhabi- tant of those portions of the kingdom where English is not the spoken language, th;,t the judge before whom such persons ma.y be prosecuted may under- stand the language, which in most cases '8 the only one in which the witnesses of the prosecuted can well expiess their knowledge of facts. In the civil couit defendants also can but des': that their respective witnesses shouhl be permitted to give the fullest and exaot expressions of the facts to which they testify. Interprete 's often ca- ider the evidence given in words which carry their foil force. In my experience of ma.ny years on the bench as magistrate in a large city, fteqaentad by sailorj and others, I have fre- quently observed the disadvantage in which the accused and his foreign witnesses are placed, notwith- standing all effort to provide the best interpreter assistance. The majority of Welsh witnesses are not sufficiently fanvtiar with English to express their knowledge of facts clcar'v in Ü there is for this reason an undoubted right that Welshmen should be allowed to t,ive their cvidence in their own tongne in the courts of their own country, and that those who act there as judges should b? so well acquainted with their language as not to require an imerpeter. Welsh members of Parliament should combine to demand this. You do good service to the Principality by promoting this object.—Yours faithfully, October 27oh. 1391. HERBERT THOMAS. MR. T. MARCHAXT WILLIAMS, M.P. Rhydfelin, Buiith. October 26.1G91. DEAR SIR,—I know of no County-court circuit in Wales in which the Welsh language is not largely spoken, and I have no hesitation, there Core, in saying that one of the essential qualifications in a County- comt ju'lge appointed to a Welsh circuit should be a knowledge of the We'.>n language. I am saon-jly of opincon, too, that a knowledge of the Welsh language is an indispensable qualification for all public appointments in the Welsh-speaking districts of the Principality.—Believe n1.q, yours fa.ith- fu'ly, T. M A tic it ANT WILLIAMS. W. Llewellyn Williams. Esq. MR. W. RE CS DAViES, THE LIBERAL CANDIDATE FOR rGMBROKESIIIRE. i Mack worth Arms Hotel, Swansea, 21st Oct., 133L DEAR SIR,—As a member of the Bar I feel some delicacy in criticising the appointment of any County Court judge, and l ro'iain from,expressing an opinion as to any hjdividoal appointment, but speaking generally, I cordially endorse, the opinion recently ex- piessed by Jiirdge Gwilym Williams that some know- ledge of the Welsh langvo^je should be a necessary element to he consideied iuthe appointment of County Court judges io puie'y Wolsh distiicts.—Yours faith- fuHly, W. REES DAVIES. W. Llewellyn Wil'ii^jiis, Esq., Editor South Star.

THE L anharan and Ystiad Hounds will J;.WJct on Tuesday, Nov. 3rd, at Abergarw; on Friday, Nov. 6th. at C 'oss In\x; at; 18.30 a.m. OBITUARY.—We regret to announce the death of Mr. William Davies, of Bush-row, Metimrythan, which occurred on f*nday. Deceased, who had attained tliQ rinc. age of 70 years" llaJ been chief mechanical engineer at Messrs. Leach, Flower, and 00.'13 Tin-plate Works at Melincrythan for a period of 29 years, having been there sinee the starting of the works, He was very highly respected by all who knew him, The; funu'P.l will tf&e pi.ap? 03 Thlll^-laV next, at 3.30,

BARRY. NEW MEDICAL PUACTITIOXEB.—We understand that Dr. Kelly, of London, Ins this week commenced practising at Yolk-place, Barry. Illness OF MIL FAWCKXEU,—We regret to learn that Mr. Fawckner, architect, of the well-known firm of B abershon and Fawckncr, of Cardiff. Newport. and London, is seriously ill at his residence, Park- square, Newport, from an attack of bronchitis. Messrs. Habershon and Fawckner were the architects or the Barry Hotel, Earry Matket; ifce. NURSING ASSOCIATION.—We understand that Miss Cory, daughter of John Cory, J.P.,Porthkerr}-, is very kindly iateiebting herself on behalf of the lo^ai Xu.sing Associai/t n by organising a concert in aid of its funds. T ie Barry Public-hall has been V ndiy lent for the concert, which is fixed to take place on the lith of November, The Hon. Pam^ila Bruce and other notable musical amateurs have very kindly ex- pressed their wiilinglless to give assistance. Tickets will be procurable th *ougk the ladies of the Nrrsi.ig Association shor.-ly. We trust that the laudable etiorts of the promoters will be crowned with the abundant Si:1cr;es" they so richly deserve. BARRY RAILWAY MISSION.—On Monday even- ing a public meeting was held at Wood-street Chapel. Cardiff, under the auspices of the Railway Mission, in support of the home of rest recently opened at Barry. Alderman R. Corv presided, and on the platform were the Rev. W. Watkins, Mr. J. Protheroe, the evange- list. and a iiumbrr of lailwayiuen disabled tarough accident, and who testified to the excellent work ac- complished by this organisation. It was explained that the railway mission is an unsectarian n:, 10.1 among 400.000 railway men, wirch seeks to promote their spiritual, moral, social, and phys'cri' welfare. Over 1.000 meetings are held every week. The mission has now 3-10 branches in the United Kingdom, and also workers in South Africa. Switzerland, India, Aus- tralia, Ceylon, New Yo"k (U.8,A), Egypt, and bouuh America. Mr. Protheroe is the only agent for the mission in Wales, but he has organised bands of Chris- tian workers along the various lines. All converts are handed over to some church or chapel where they desire to attend. Mr. Protheroe is now engaged ii1 endeavouring to obtain, through the medium of the Surgical Aid Society, a number of artificial limbs for men whose meanswillllJt enable them to b^ • the ex'iense. Subscriptions should be addressed to Mr. J. Piotheroe, the Railway Mission Home of Rest, i: ury. FOR THE LARGEST and best selected stock of Watches, Clocks, and Jowellery at the lowest prices go to Newman's, Exchange-buildings, Barry.

BARRY DOCK. IMPORTANT TO PARENTS.—The inhabitants of the Barry Dock neighbourhood should remember that on Monday next the infant department of the pew Holton-road Board Schools, near the police-station, will be opened. CYMMRODORIOX SOCIETY.—A preliminary meet- ing will be held in the vestry of the Bible Chapel, Hoi Urn-road, Barry Dock, all Tueslay evening next, at s^ven o'clock, for the prrpose of forming a Cym- I. > lorion Society for the district and to elect officers, ifcc. All We'shiren are respectfully invited to attend. THE "MILLION MORE" CRCSADE.—We leurn that the local tempevance party have been very ener- getic late'y in t! ;s district in forwaiv.'ngthemovement which has ior KS object the secuiing of a "rniUion mo :e'" temperance pledge-, throughout the country. Their efforts ;n the neighbourhood of Barry Dock have, v. e are pleased to learn, been very successful, .so \S OF TEMPERANCE.—On Saturday evening the thi -d anniversary of the Hope of Barry division of the above benefit society was celeb •ated. in the new schoolroom of the Holton Bible Christian Chapel, Barrv Dock, where nearly POO members and friends sat down to a knife and forkuea. Arterthe tea a paVic meeting was held, presided ove" by Mr. D. Roberts. EXPORTS AND IMPORTS. — The shipments at Barry Dock for the week ending Saturday last were as follows:—Coal, 7(,2 tons 2 cwts.: coke, 523 tons llcwts.: total, 71,365 tons 13 cwts. This was shipped on board 42 steamers and 12 sailing yc's¡,el,tot<1l «4. The imports daring the week consisted of 2/0 tons of li'iis. 30 tons of pi'; iioo, 90 tons or bricks. 110 dozen lici^es, 1.300 ton of pitwood. and 200 tons of "••avel. WHERE IS FOLLICK'S, the Pawnbroker, Outfitters Jeweller, tic.?—Corner of Barrv-road anl Main-strce —Advt.'

CADOXTOX. THE Welsh Methodists held thanksgiving prayer meet.1:13"s on Thursday III the :,fW1"llOOn all.1 evening. THE English Presbyterians held thanksgiving ser- vices on Wednesday, when the Ilev. W. Williams, the new pastor of the Welsh Methodist*, pieacheu an eloquent,-seinion to a la ge congregation. C YOOXTON ANT) COCNTY CLUB.—At the Cadox- toii Hovel, Vere-stieet, last evening, another meeting wag held for the pnrpose cf making farther arrange- n.en.s in reference to the establishment of the above clllD. My RIOT! AM A.—Poole's celebrated myriorama will visit the Theatre Royal, Cadoxton on Monday nights at e:ght o'clock. All should see tiiis, wondering aim world-famou# exhibition. BRYX SlON.—Lasi Sunday and Monday aun'.vcr- s.y scrv'.ces were held at Cryn Scion Welsh Indepen- dent Chapel, when powe. r! and impressive, sermoas wc-e delivered by the Revs. Tegryn Ph.illins and Tenant Phillips to large congregations. Thes.colleo- t-ious, which weic* devo'.ed to the uefiaying of the chapel debt, were very satisfactQry. NEXT SEASON'S CRTCKGT —A meeting will.be held at the W.'ichiil Hotel, Cadoxton, on Wednesday week, of the members of he Barry Digtrictand Cjtdoxtoa C icket C'rhs, for the pevpo-e of considering the advisability of amalgamating both clubs and aicaugiag matte1"-3 in connection with the next cncket.seasoii. A good meeting is anuieipateu, and all cri-cketets are invited tol)e pre;"en L Tu-ji SOUTH WALES OPE>; STOCK; Exchange COMPANY.—This company offers cxcep'ional advan- tages- to intending speculators. For- partjciUprs see onr advertising columns- A good feature n. that, by aakinga £2 10s. share ia the syndicnta the risk is re- dnco-d to a minimum. SCHOOL SUCCESS-g.—We under^ta^d tbsvt in the repoit of Mr. C. T. Whitniell, M.A., H.M.J..of schools, wlw recently conductt^l the annral examination of the Barry and Cadoxton. Board Schools., meiitlfwa will be ntade of the facu that the highest grajat. will be awarded to the Cadoxton Infant. D.ppartalent and tae Iloltol1-roaù Infant Department, GOVERNMENT ENQUIUY—At th.* Local Board | Offices, Catl0Xu0* Oil Wednesday ^joining e at j; half-past 1i o'cVxjk. Mr. Saritiel J./Smith, an inspector j of the Local Government Boa;d Viill hold a public iiic.ciry iruo th> application of the Barry and Cadoxton Local Board to borrow vaviou^sflttus of money fo? pùblic works proposed tc. be .carried, out in the district CADOXTON CHORA (..UNION.—Te are very p^as^d to hear thr> _tVe above, society i;>, doing well, and very Si>ti»-.>«,u)ry process is V'ltg made with the cantata, "Esther, the Be..u,vi,fnl Queen," which it is the intention of the society to perform some*pie during ihe coming winter. Opportunities wjll be fe'.ven locil talent, in thi?. district in the way; of tak- ing solo paits. &0., in: the a^jnve, and that as tjieJU'ofi 'ts aris^ from the perfoai»anee of the above are to be giveja ill aid of the Nursing Association at Barry lJn-k, it will he seen that the society is working with a very praiseworthy object, and is deserving of every uipport. The secve a y, M-. W. Davies, 9, Qraving Dock-sf»ecty Bairy Dock, wi'l be ^lad to. receive sub- ? sc options and sunply fr-ther particulars. BAPTISM BY IMMERSION.—La^ S; NLAY a'ght the Rev, L.. Ton Evans baptised by immersion two persons in the presence of a large con^cation. One of the two is a member of tie English Congregational Church, Barry, but, hclieYing in the immersion, f, was baptised with the full ponsent of the church by the Rev. Ton Evans. The Rev. J. H. S to well was present at the ceremony> and on the i&vitation of thi pas. or made a few reivv»rks. 5 BARRY AND THK CARDIFF TKACHI RS' Associ 7 ATION.—A general meeti lg of this assoc'ation wa: • held on Saturday afternoon last, at the Alhany-roai b Board Schoyl Cardiff, under the preside nCy of Mr T Bramwell (Wood-street —M~. w, B. Redman the secretary, read replies from the Cardiff, Barrv and Penarth Schoo' Boards, and also f.-om the mana- gers of the Canton National Schools, acknowledging receipts of the resolution regarding assistants' salaries. The repiy from Barry stated that the matter is under consideration. STARTLING IXCIDEXT IN A CHURCH.—At Call oxton on Sunday evening, the Rev. A. T. Couch, curate, wa suddenly taken ill while preaching, and had to be removed from the pulpit. The incident crcat-ed a great sensation amongst the crowded cor— gregation, and much sympathy was expressed towards the rev. gentleman. From inquiries made on Moaday it was elicited that he was much bettet. THEATHS ROUAL.—Before a large audience en Momiay n?ght the drama, Llam;s of Justice," was played by a vhorougnly emcient company. The senpG-» tional points in the play are numerous, and they were heartily appended. The four scenes are supposed In- take place in Europe, iWri, Africa, and America, wrongs being righted at the lafer place, the c-r-tairr failing amid mtich applause. M«ss Laura Nolan (Miss Will Smithsoii) as "Esme. t oe dumb Russian" girl,, crerAcù a very favourable impression, a really difficult- part being admirably enacted. To-night (Friday) F, b takes a well-earned Deneut when the favourite Irish drama, The Colleen Bawn," will bs performed. Miss Nelan will appear a» gUy O'Connor." Mr. Will Smith, of the Pontypridd Theatre, will appear for tLis occasions oniv and render a few songs. 1F(?LLICK'S is the Genuine Shop for all kinds of Clethsng. Comer of Barry-road and Main- streftt.;—Ailvt. IF YOU WAXT your Watch or Clock well repaired or clsaned -it a moderate charge take it to Newman's, Higb-s-.ree'^ Cadoxton.

PETERSTONE. RUISOURS-d CLOSING- OF A CHAPEL.—Croes-y-- Park Baptist Chapel. BLN.r Petei stoiie-supei-Eiv Station, says a comempora-Yy- is likely to be closed for want olmirisfcexial runds. It is an old Lt iiding. v.ith a biirial g-iound attached and formerlv had a lar-^e membeiship.-but the autenfa*it-e has fallen aw so considerably that for some t'ue it has been a matter of difficulty paw a mmistev. It u., therefore, proposed to close tko chapel.- ¿ "For saven years I suffered from Asthma, tried all known reai^diee,- and Lewis's 2J:CfUi:AL BALSAM To .he b:si-jf all.—s..lj>d. per bottle.

WENVOE. THE tniTJifcl on the Earrylinc near the Alps Quarry is still very wot. The wr er from this tunnel] is now used by the-'iompany for their engines, &c, SUB-MAlilNE MlNEUS.—As the volunteer vear ends on 31s*-Gutobe'yal> drills ha.vc now been "sus- pended, anl will, not be resumed until December hen a limi'^d nuj.7-.jer o recruita wdl be e-)^ u 1 it.,M Anyone desifro.v of joking suouM give his name to Lieut, J. A Hughe*. Sergeant W. Hosgood, or any member of ths Barry Detachment. WE R^GRrliTS' to record the serious illness of Miss Rous, of Coait.yra'la, who is now on a visit to her nephew at. Tetiviry, Wiltshiie: great sympathy is. evinced by the- inhabitants of Dynas Pov.is and the ne gnbourhood..

ST. FAGANS, HARVEST. Thanksgiving — On Tuesday :oth. mst., harvest .thanksgiving se-vice were held 'at'iiie rabernacie Caivm-stic Meshodisfc Chapel of t ,e abovt- place at 2.20 p.m.. A prayer meeting was and short appropriate Add ress given by tne Rev. T Jones Davies,- Pentyrch.. This- meeting was conduetei in th. Welsh language At seven p.m., an in-.messive sermon was delivered by the above niinVor a ver~ large congregatio-R.. The chapel was- crowded The evening service, w.^conduc-d h the English language.

PENARTH. THE LATE.ME.-W. H. GILES—On Mo^rv tta mortal remains -of Me. W. H. Giles NvoLe iutc.xcdin the Parish Churchyard of Llandough. Fo • many x ears the deceased was -manager of tne stone quariies in taat parish. Latteriy he had been r, iu a. similar cahing at .Pcn.yrch wlic, e he came °to an un- timely end by cut to p-cces, having been th own on the line of rails, the loaded trucks mutilating his, boay in in a irigbttal manner. INTKUJLEDIATE. SCHOOLS.—A n:oeto* the buik.ing com mitt for the erection of intermediate v at Bocal Board OSice on SatUida) cvennj. under the presidency op Mr. James, hdwards Proxessars Powell and Tanner, of the Lnneisity CoJege <>i, South W"ales and Moi- iouth- shire, were present,.and rendered the commit.ee vala- ao.e aid ln.conuug.to.a decisio.i as to the ulans of the schools. It was uecitied to erect schoolfor 120 boys and 80 g.rls ,iii. separate buildings, each bui dbi^ contain si^ .classrooms, school-room and music-room necessary cloak-room, lavatories, ic Iu^ £ centie of the. buildings will be a laig^.ni canabie of ho.ding 2'JCLpupns, to be available £ *• use by «:.iner girls or boys. In addition, thcie wiU be a caretaker's house, laboratories, and playgrounds, The tot.i cost, is est.mat.ed at belaveen £ 4.000 r<nd 4'5 000 r Windsor hasten, the land; and contributed iibe^lly towards the ljuilt.3ns: fund. MlNISTE-U'.A1^ CALL.—-The Presikyierian Church of Wales has at Peiiartn entered rpoa a new lease of life, and it is moat.gj.-ivtv-.ying to record thai during the past fewnonths.the position of the congregation aad the diiiereiit.Qiganisations connected witu ■ he chvrch has materially impioved. The steps- which the mem- bers contemplate taking will undoubtedly have the. eiiect of considerably enhancing success. *They have preferred a call to. the Rev. J. M. Saunders M.A., Llandovery, eldest son of Dr. Sauadoi-s. and nephew of Canon, Howell, late of Wrexham, and formerly of Caruiii. The rev. gentleman has accep 2d the invita- tion to take_pex £ ooal chr -g», and v.21 en.or r»on duties at the beguiling u.: the New Year so thi 0 the Plassey-street Chapel will probably become a centre of ut.tracttc.m &arJy in 1892. 80N.S. OF TEiiPEKANCE.-On Tin-sd.^ evening last the members o the a'JO re society. ,0 the immW of about 7a,.together wita a few friends, sat down to an exce.Jent. dinner provided foe them n Barry's Llestamauu, Ca'c'tf, Jhe whole disease of which in— cluo r.g train, fcjj « to and from Peuarth, being defrayei Coumn^ar JJ. Uibb* the presi/en* of the division. After omner speeches* so^j. <?-c., wee given, and the members of the Penarth Handbell Ringers Association played a coivjle of selections Of course, the cap that inebriates wal not introduced at the festive, gathering, but it was evident f.'iat, that waa no Darner to. the srccess or tiie meeting or the enjoy- ment of the r-?:i!ieiL. Tempesan.ce 'levcrnies we-a in lequest,. anu before the IMùy separated cohee was served.—-Bra. C. Hodge, in pcopa-dng the toast of Xiic President, uslcei that ÍI.,r¡1i&ht. be witli musical honours and cheers, -act aever was su -h a request more heartily lespohded to.— Upon ri-c arrival of .theparty at the Penarth Railway S "t;OIJ, cheers were again given for Mi. Cibbs and family, C.OfJiT LEEr. The Mai^qyis of B -,c's annual eo.ar.ti le.et- took place at t-bq: Merry HP ri s Hotel, Llaudough, on Tuesday, Mr. Chambers, from the esta. a office, representing the Marc.pis. The'usual formality ol opening the court having been goi:» h^on^a, t-fae foilo-wing v.er3 s worn in as, jurymen for the ensuing .year:.—i £ Lr. Rees (Lland;j«gh), foreman; Messrs. <Tiaffiths, John iiiiams. btakci, Jones, Ceorge J. :Edwards," Hopkins, P. C. Ba^ry, Rees (Co-neiswell;, T..B. Clode, H. Ciode. ayd DaLd Mo.-gan (bailiff) This ceremony having be^i. gpae thtocgn, a most in- teresting one followed—that of r good tdnncr, served up in Mr. and Mrs. Cla;ke's well-known style, for which this hostelry hi-,5 become so famed. M.. Cum- bers did the honours of the chsir io a very felic'tous manner, the vice haviogjjeen v.blv filled by Mr. Rees, Carnerswell. Dinner beinga.ver. the rsuai loyal t-oast* were given, followed up with the MP renis rnd Mar- chioness of Bute, net Jo gevuiag the ch, man. whose genial countenance wq hope vo have iu our midst for many years to coxr.e,—T.ie ice-cbai 1 ms<n fe«ljngly alluded to the late M J. A-Co. beet, and his connec- tion for so many yiavs with the cor it lec Mr. Rees then gave the he^th 0; nis, successor. -M- John Corbe.t, a gentleman well, known ana resoec ed, which met with a .le:1 ty response*. One 0 two "o^IisZ toasts i followed, one in. jiaitu-ijai— bei-ig that of Mr. J. S. Corbett-—srhose, presence amongst us, we hope, may bp spared. ior many years to. come. Although iast. r\Qv leafri. c,jac the heakb af Mr. D. Moigaa, the bt.ili.ff.. who. had ab'y filled he post for nearly half a century.. 111 (■ hea'tli of 'i, ho^t and hostess concluded the list. The la. cr porLion of the evening also ,wafeve-y enjoyable.

T.I; A CARFAX. THAN^t-QiyjXS,S £ KVICF.S.—The W^sk-yan friends held their annual thanksgiving for the harvest on Monday last. The morniug and^ ernoon meetings, were rarely devoted to. prayer and piai&e. 'l'he- evening meet^. which was Jrr^ely attended, -was commenced bv .he Rev. E. Lewis.Bap.ist minister who a portion of Sc«pture onj» off ere ti up ijrayer. An ajppropria^ seimen was afterwards delivered by the Rev. D. J«nes, of Uadoxtio, who t<x>k his text fro.^i, Ezesdil xvii a*. Miss. C. ^gher presided at. ^ie.hiriv">tr.vim. Cu^leci-iorvj we- e mane at tae close.

Police- REMOVAL.—Wc- are informed thatPoiic t coRstabl^ Jones, Pontypr:dd. is about to be lemored if.'om tha- town +o take ccft-.ge of .he Din^s district-^ from whfc»ce ActiKi-poli^c-jsergej'.nt Wetkj will bs' re- movf^to Penygraig. XVii'oe-comtable JvJie- is much iresp,?,qted, and i" popalsus-i-n the town. ai.d. his loss will j be tae;}ly felt.

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as important, if not as venerable, bodies. Then it will find how essential it is to the dignity of a tow.i to be wcitlrly represented on such occasions. A corporation can, also, assign to its chief magistrate a sllary.-3 very general custom when the town is expecting a visit from a great personage or an influential body. A salary was given to S'r John Jones Jenkins, we believe, on the occasion of the Prince of Wales' visit to that ancient borough. A Corporation possesses greater powers than a Local Board. We have already instanced one of its privileges, the right to appoint its own auditor. We have alluded to the evils result- ing from this power, the wa^e and extravagance that it engenders and the lax way in which the accounts are sometimes audited. But this can be suceessfally met by a watchful public opinion and an auditor, chosen by the local authority itself, would be free from the irritat- ing rd-ttpe-ism which so generally char- acterises Government officials. We think that the Pontypridd Chamber of Trade have made a serious mistake in not demanding the control of the police from the corporation. A borough police force, living under the very eye of the Corporation, is generally far more efficient and incorrupt than a county police force, responsible only to a scattered magistracy, and observed, and that only in part, by i's own officials. In a corporate town, the anions of the police would be watched by the borough magistrates, who would themselves be to some extent, the re- presentatives of the people. At a tÍlre when the administration of the licensing and others laws is of such vital interest and moment to Wales, it would be well to have on our magis- terial bench men who would, in some degree, represent the views of the ratepayers and sympathise with their objects. We need but refer to the gieatest boon of all. The method of election would be changed. Yooing would be by ballot. and ratepayers would be freed from a tyranny more despotic than the land- lord's, the tyranny of the land and estate- agent. Every ratepayer would have an equal voice in the choice of candidates, for the anomalous piopercy votes would be swept away. There is one other advantage which we would like jusi to mention, but which would apply more to new towns bke Barry than to older town"; like Pontypridd. A corpora- tion would distinguish the town from a larger town in the neighbourhood, rko Car J' if. Pen- arth is looked upon practically as a suburb of Cardi J, and Bany is generally looked upon as being within the port of Cardiff. If Barry were a corpoiate town, it woaM cease to be looked upon as an outlying dependency of Cardiff. The Pontypridd Local Board plead for delay. They wish to settle first of all the question of extending the Local Board area but as the question is practically settled, we cannot see the force of their aigumeu.. Nor would it be well to delay the scheme until the District Councils Bill—so long promised, so long de- ferred—is pac-sed by Parliament. The Govern- ment, it is true, hai promised to bring the B I before Parliament next year but we doubt whether the piesswre of lush and other busi- ness will admit of such a Bill being introduced, still less carried. Even such a Bill were to become law next year, the advantages, real and sentimental, that an important town like Pontypridd would gain from incorporation would outweigh the lelief that it would enjoy by the passing of the Bill. Without the control of the police however, we believe, with Coun- cillor Roberts, that incorporation would lose half its value.