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MR. LLOYD=GEORGE AT CARDIFF. A National Council of Education. On Saturday last Mr. Lloyd-George, M.P., visited Cardiff as the guest of the Cymmrodorion Society. On his arrival in the city he was given a reception by the Mayor and Members of the Corporation. Later in the day the honourable member dined with the Cymmrodorion, and at the dinner made an important speech. Refer ring to the Government's forthcoming Education Bill he said, that one set of people were fearing that the Government would go too far, and another set feared that they would not go far enough. He would tell them a secret. He believed it was going to be a better Bill than either party feared. But what concerned him was what they might get for Wales. He was not referring to anything controversial, but to some- thing they could get which would be construc- tive, which would not in the slightest degree infringe upon the conscience of anybody. He wondered whether, if Welshmen agreed, they could not get something out of this Education Bill which would help Wales apart from the settlement of controversy. He ventured to think that they could if they only agreed. A Bill of that magnitude would be very difficult to carry through even with a big majority, and if they were going to get something which would specially refer to Wales it would only be in the event of there being agreement among all classes so as to make it worth while to give that proportion of time which it would be necessary for the Government to spare in order to carry it through. They made an attempt in the Act of 1902 to secure unity among all the Welsh local education authorities for purely education pur- poses. They tried to set up a National Council. There was machinery provided under the Act for that purpose. They sent the whole of Wales, and to that Council they proposed that powers should be delegated by the Welsh education authorities with regard to the training of teachers and matters of a kindred character. When such a council had been formed they proposed to ask the Government to delegate to it powers now vested in the Board of Education with regard to the inspection of elementary and secondary schools. He had good reason to believe that the Government would have sanc- tioned that scheme. The difficulties arose in Wales. That was why he now wanted to warn them. If they wanted a scheme of that character carried through they must agree among themselves first. They could not ask an outside authority to settle their internal dinerences for them. Fifteen out of sixteen councils were in perfect agreement. Now the time had arrived to make another attempt. What did they want? They wanted their own central education authority in Wales. They had travelled so far on the education road that they had left behind the foremost among their neighbours. With respect to them they thought they could do better for themselves than they could do for them. They wanted a little more co-ordination. They wanted elementary, secondary, and higher education to fit a little better. They wanted a great central machine which would help to co-ordinate all three. He believed that with the general assent of all grades and sec- tions of the Welsh community they could get the Government to set up an authority of that character. Such an authority ought not to deal with matters of controversy between parties and sects, but with matters of a purely educa- tional character. Is it to be National Council representative of the people (Mr. Lloyd-George continued), or is it to be a board of experts nominated at Whitehall ? The Lord Mayor: A National Council. Mr. Lloyd-George: I agree. We know the best men to manage our business, and we don't want anyone else to manage it for us. If it is



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