The Cambrian

I—a———iH—BMSBBaBBBM—MBBMHM——— v To the EDITOR of The CAMBRIAN. SIR,—Will you allow me through the medium of your valuable publication to call the atteution of the town authorities to the state of a house-in Little Wind-street, which I never pass without fear. The outer WAI} of the house inclines toward the street at le3st a foot from the per- pendicular. I am, Sir, yours, most obediently, Swansea, July 29, 1831. AN INHABiTANT.

PIER OR BREAKWATER AT THE WORMS- HEAD. To the EDITOR of The CAMBRIAN. Sir,—My "Observations," inserted in your paper some time back, respecting the necessity of a place of security for ships and vessels navigating the Bristol Channel, to be formed by the erection of a Pier or Breakwater at the Wormshead, does not appear to have called forth the attention of those who, certainly, are greatly interested in the completion of the projected measure; for it has not been honoured with notice, ex- cept from the able pen of" Anti- Libs," who, I am happy to observe, is favourable to the suggestion, and who, in common with experienced linen that have viewed the situation, expresses his astonishment at its being so long neglected, as it could be formed into a placn capable of affording protection to ships and vessels navigating the Bristol and Irish Channels. The silence of mariners on this occasion "speaks volumes" in favour of the measure, as the eligibility and capability of the spot mentioned seems to be established, otherwise objections would be made to it through the medium of your valuable newspaper. Unfortunately, plans and suggestions of great public benefit have in variably met with a cold and discouraging reception when first proposed; as was the case with turnpike roads, mail coaches, canals, steam na- vigation, &0. &c., when originally recommended and it is likely that the projected Pier or Breakwater will meet with a similar reception, al. though its advantages to the public are so obvious, by adding to the secu- rity of navigation in the Bristol Channel, and likewise to the navigation of the Irish Channel. tu —hriwr when approaching the laud of hngland can boldly steer tor the coasts when such a place is torinea tor the security of shipping, particularly those who are bound for the ports of the Bristol Channel; for the danger of the approach, in stormy and foggy weather, is evident, from the many remains of wrecks that unfortunately appear 011 the coast considerably more than a hundred have occurred within the last seventy years, amongst which several vessels ofvalue may be enumerated, bound to London, Liter pool, and various other ports of the united kingdom. The erection of a Pier or Breakwater at the Wormshead would give security and be beneficial to foreign commerce generally and, as before mentioned in the Observations" on this subject, it would be of great importance to the naval station now fixed at Milford, as forming a place of shelter for the ships resorting thereto, being situate immediately under the lee" of that port, when the south western gales prevail,—a circum- stance of no small import when duly considered. It is well known to those most conversant in nautical matters, that the port of Milford is occasionally difficult of access dining the gales of wind above mentioned; and a place of shelter for ships and vessels 011 these occasions would be appreciated accordingly. The Lords of the Admiralty have, as I am informed, caused a survey of the Wormshead to be made, under the direction of an able and scientific Officer in consequence, I presume, of the" Observations" laid before them to ascertain the advantages of stHh a harbour as the on proposed; which would be an auxiliary to the Milford naval depot; from which survey there is every reason to expect a disinterested and favourable re- port, as the experience and ability of Lieutenant Denham, who, I under- stand, has the honour of being intrusted with their Lordships' commands on this service, is well known than whom few officers in his Majesty's navy are better qualified. The Brethren of the Trinity House have also caused a like survey to be made, under the immediate direction of abie men, so that this long neg- lected spot may become a place of safety for commercial vessels and the navy, under such able auspicies, and the contemplated improvement of the Bristol Channel be effected. The Underwriters at Lloyd's, and the Members of that Establishment, are also much interested in the forming of this harbour, and there can be little doubt but their usual liberality will be exerted when called upon to give their aid, in order to complete so desirable and beneficial a measure to the commercial interest. The Commercial Gentlemen of Bristol, Liverpool, Dublin, Waterford, Cork, and other large sea-ports in the Bristol and Irish Channels, will, doubtless, give their aid to effect a plan which will certainly add to the safety and security of their floating capital. The Post Office department would also be materially benefitted by the proposed improvement, and there can be no hesitation in saying, that Thomas Telford, Esq. would have selected the Wormshead as the packet establishment for conveying the mail from this country to and from Ire- land, for the saving in fuel for the packels alone would be considerable, had he been instructed to that effect, exclusive of every other consider- ation. This place has been so long overlooked that there is no difficulty in accounting for the reason why it escaped his comprehensive views, as the capabilities of the situation for a steam packet station was unknown at that period therefore his efforts were directed to the improvement of the mail coach road through Wales to Milford Haven. The saving to the Government in the improvements recommended at Milford Haven by Mr. Telford, and also the snms expended by them and by private individuals in the repairs and alterations of the roads from Swansea to that place, is much more than would have been sufficient for forming the station at the Wormshead, had that place been selected in the first instance from whence ail the mails could have been forwarded in a much shorter time than from Milford Haven, and the communication with Milford, for the purposes of Government, be uninterruptedly kept up by the mail which passes through Brecon and Carmarthen to Pem- broke Dock-yard, or by a steam-packet from the proposed harbour, by which it would reach its destination in much less time than it does at present, as it could be forwarded at any time, and any state of the tide, without delay. The distance from the Wormshead to Pembroke Dock-yard, in a direct line, being only about 27 miles, and the total distance from London, through S waDsea and the Wormshead, is abont 240 miles; 21 of which would be conveyed by telegraph or by steam-packet, thus leaving only about 213 miles of conveyance over land after the contemplated improvement in the roads between London and Swansea are effected; whereas the mail coach travels at this moment 260 miles or thereabouts over land, and therefore a saving of 50 or 60 miles in the distance between Swansea and Milford Dock-yard and also it would be the meaus of saving in time six hours, if not more, for the delivery of the Irish mails; a matter worth consideration, in my opinion, of the Postmaster General. It is evident, that by the aid of Government, the Trinity House, Under- writers at Lloyd's, and the Merchants of the different ports, who will find it their interest to promote such an useful undertaking and so conducive to the public good, that the harbour may be easily formed and the plan brought to maturity. I am, Mr. Editor, Your obedient servant and constant reader, 29th Jnly, 1831. AGENOR. P, S. In addition to the advantages to be derived from the proposed .harb"ur, the shelter and security which it would afford to the numerous eralt employed in fishing in the surrounding sea cannot be left unnoticed; which security will ensure a constant supply of that salntaryarticle to the different cities and towns on the shores of the Bristol Channel, and to a considerable distance inland from the same, at a much less expense than at present, and it would become of national importance as a fishery, for he set which adjoins abounds with the finest lislt.

THE CHURCH. The subjoined article from The Times places so many points respecting the Church in a fair and proper light, that we unhesitatingly give it insertion. The Times is, at least, an impartial authority in matters concerning ec- clesiastical interest:— 0 We have at intervals spoken on the subject of church reform, though but briefly, as occasion has offered. We are anxious not to be misunderstood, more particularly at a time like the present, and shall take occasion, therefore, to express ourselves somewhat more at large. Practical utility is what we seek in everything; and practical utility with as little damage as possible to existing rights, with as little offence as possible to inveterate feelings or even prejudices. On the subject of non-residence and pluralities, let us suppose for a while toat every clergymen had but one living, sufficient for the honourable maintenance of himself and his family. We say honourable maintenance, tor we are sure there will be no respect paid to the church or its professors, if they are not raised above poverty, if they are npt supplied with the means of charity and l. t .f" decent hospitality and as the money is beatosved or spent in the parish, the pastor's income will not be a parochial lois. Every pa rish being thus supplied with its separate priest, the church would seem to be as well constituted as possible. Now the fact is, how- ever plausible external appearances may be, that such a church could hot stand or be continued for, every incumbent doing his own duty, there would be no curates in such an establishment— none preparing by practice for the future ministry, except in the cases, comparatively few, where one clergyman would not suffice, and who, of course, must have assistants. From whence would the future incumbents be to be chosen? There would be no stock of personal expectant, and prepared by previous habit. It is evident, therefore, that there must, to a certain extent, be non- residence and pluralities. The only legitimaie or even possible object to be attained by any measure, is to prevent these from degenerating into abuses, and to secure, iu all necessary cases, a resident curate, with a competence such as we have specified above, or at least becoming, as the major part of curates are, a young man looking forward to advancement from talents, character, and connexion. But then we have heard much of the" labouring clergy, the working clergy,"—a class of persons, it should appear, extremely ill-used, and exposed to suffer much. The fact is, that every man is dissatisfied who is not promoted according to his own estimate of his own merits. Undoubtedly the persons above described are very useful in their stations, they are even indispensable in an es- tablishment of the magnitude of the Church of England, in which it is impossible that all should be equally gifted, or all possess the talent and energy necessary for rising in the world. But let us consider for a moment what these labouring clergy are. All the clergy begin what may be called "life" (that is, their profes- sional life), at the same age—three or four and twenty; all, it may be supposed, with lively hopes and ardent expectations; some must rise to the top by the buoyancy of genius and merit, and others remain at the bottom by the power of gravity; and while the highest praises are bestowed on the decency, the stea- diness, and the unimpeachable morals of these latter (in all which praises we concur), let it be permitted to us to say, that we do not know a more animating sight in a parish than a vigorous young- man preparing himself for future eminence in the church, and exciting the curiosity of the intelligent (as well as the piety of the uninstructed), how his talents may develop themselves—in what manner he will treat this or that subject. Such men are known to form the most honourable friendships, in the place where they make their clerical debut (if we may use that woi d not improperly), and to retain them through the varied scenes of life ',e. important assistance to the descendanti of frequently affording important assistance to the descendants of those at whose cheerful tabl> s they had been welcome gues s in their youth. Let any one read the lives of Bishop Heber and Bishop Middleton, both of which have excited so much interest lately, and they will see the force of this argument. What can be more interesting than to contemplate the future prelates of India in the labouring curates of two little parishes, before one of them obtained the paltrv vicarage of Tansover, in Northampton- shire, and the other, the benefice of which we do not at this moment recollect the name. Had they been born to be of the working clergy, the one would never have reached Tansover, nor the other ever gone beyond his family living; and any rule which should attempt to level such men with the working clergy, we fear, would be a mischievous one for the church and for socie'y at large. "Again,—as to this "much-injured," suffering class," the labouring clergy, some certainly have married early in life, and thereby have relinquished what are called fellowships, the only in- dependent, or the most independent, mode of entering the church. But of the major part of them, we believe it may be said that they were not able to attain fellowships at the Universities. They are, therefore, obviously men of second-rate talent at the outset, and such there must be in every profession or if, unhappily, they may have wasted their time at the University, they have never reco- vered it by subsequent exertions for in the church aiso. as in other professions, though perhaps with more difficulty, talents will emerge,—render themselves useful,-if it be but in a district or neighbourhood, and obtain some distinction or reward. By bringing such men forward, therefore, into eminent stations, through any artificial scheme, by means of any new system intro- duced into the church, an opportunity is only thereby afforded them of exhibiting their incompetence,—of disgracing themselves, and injuring the establishment. But, in truth, any system which attempts to subvert the ordinances of nature, and to place all on the same level, whether in church or state, may create immediate mischief or inconvenience, but mu t ultimately prove nugatorj and ineffective. All that can be done by law is to protect the working clergy from that poverty from which they could not pro- tect themselves and to take care that this be done, not at the expense of the people, for whose benefit the church is instituted, but at the expense of their more fortunate brethren,-that is, at the expense of the church itself, in which there must be the Ger- sbemke as well as the Levite,-the hewer of wood and drawer of water, as well as the more portly bearer of the uriin and thuinmim We doubt much whether there exist at this momentthree instances (or indeed whether any) of neglected genius, learning, and talents, among what are now called the working clergy of the Established Church. Tbev ate equal to the ordinary functions of their office, par negotio, nec supra. We hope they are examples, also, of piety and decorum."

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS. WEDNESDAY, Aug 3.—On the motion of Earl Grey, an Address was voted to his Majesty, expressive of the cheer- fulness with which their Lordships would concur in giving effect to the object of the Royal Message, relating to a suit- able provision for the Princess Victoria. The Lord Chancellor presented a Bill to facilitate business in rile Cvull uf CUaiivti y ttIiUIi ttoo firtt tlmo • and after some other Bills on their Lordship's table had been forwarded a stage, the House adjourned. THURSDAY, Aug. 4.—The Lord Chancellor rose to sus- pend the Standing Orders for the purpose of carrying his y Bill to prevent delay in Chancery through all its stages Lord Eldon said he should be sorry to see such a Bill pass, be- cause he was satisfied the Lord Chancellor possessed full power to enforce the intended object without the interven- tion of Parliament.—The Lord Chancellor immediately rose, and said he entertained the same opinion himself, but thought it best to have the sanction of their Lordships in the passing of his Bill. As, however, the Learned Lord (Eldon) had laid that a statute in this case was unnecessary, he (Lord Brougham) was morally certain that the declaration of the Noble Earl would set the question at rest for ever; it would therefore be bad policy to pass an act to declare it so, and he should in consequence proceed no further with the Bill at present, but should allow it to remain over, in order that if any difficulty might arise, it could be passed without loss of time. The Bill, with the consent of their Lordships, was then ordered to be read sine die. The Marquess of Londonderry wished to ask, whether the Government had authorised Donna Maria to be received on her arrival at Portsmouth with the honours due to Crowned Heads.-Earl Grey replied, that in pursuance of a verbal communication between the Commander-in-Chief and the Fird Lord of Admiralty, Donna Maria had been received with the honours due to persons possessing Royal rights. So that," said Earl Grey, '• the Nobie Marquess has dis- covered what is vulgarly and commonly called a mare's nest." His Lordship reminded the House that Donna Maria had been received by his late Majesty and the late Government as the legitimate Queen of Portugal. On the motion of the Earl of Eldon, the papers connected with the prosecution of Mr. O'Connell were ordered to be laid before the House. His object, he said, was to remedy a defect in the law—if defect there were-to prevent a con- viction from ceasing, although the act might expire before judgment.—Adj. FRIDAY, Aug. 5.—The Church Building Act went through a Committee—the Truck System Bill, and the To- bacco Prohibition Bill were read a third time amd passed. PORTUGAL.—The Earl of Aberdeen rose for the purpose of calling the attention of their Lordships to our relations with Portugal, but more particularly as regarded the cap- ture of Fayal by the Regency of Terceira, to which capture the Government of this country had apparently given its sanction, as English ships had been employed to convey the troops of the Regency, and the British Consul had not in- terfered to prevent the capture of merchant vessels by the squadron. He considered the enquiry more important at the present moment, in consequence of recent movements. Don Pedro was engaged at that time in projecting the inva- sion of Portugal. His Majesty the King of the Brazils had called upon a body of merchants to advance a lone, pledging in payment of the same the revenue of Portugal The No- ble Earl believed the merchants would not be ready to ac- cede to such terms, but the fact was, that some money had been raised to promote the views of Don Pedro. If any re- spect was to be paid to the law of nations and the law ofthe land, he thought proceedings of that nature could not be permitted. Don Pedro had a right to make war against his brother, as the guardian of his daughter; but the proposi- tion made to England of supporting the claims of Don Pedro would lead to the injury of our interests everywhere. There would be no hope of getting rid of the difficulties of Europe so long as Portugal remained in the state it is. Their Lord- ships had received the accounts of the events that had taken place in the Tagus. He really could not trust himself to speak of those transactions. No man in Parliament or out of Parliament could feel more than the Noble Earl did on that subject. The attack on Portugal by the French forces was no injury to Portugal. It was England that was in. jured. The Noble Lord denounced the late aggressions of the French Government towards Portugal; and said, if the Noble Earl allowed these aggressions he must not only allow the French fleet to retain possession of the Tagus, but he would find it necessary to carry his complaisance a step farther, and conduct the French army into the country of Portugal. If the Noble Earl was determined to overthrow the Government of Don Miguel, let him declare it; such an open course would be more honest in itself than the one at present pursued, which might entail amongst its conse- quences the horror of a civil war on Portugal. He should trouble their Lordships no further than to move, That an humble Address be presented to his Majesty, praying that there be laid on the table of the House copies of certain des- patches to his Majesty's Consul in the Azores also copies of all papers and documents having reference to the inva- sion of Terceira; the invasion of the French fleet in the Tagus; and several other communications respecting the affairs of Portugal and the Brazils." The question being put, Earl Grey said, after a great deal I of declamation the Noble Earl had concluded with a very in- nocent motion, having for its first object an explanation of circumstances which had taken place two years ago in the Azores. The same reasons which prevented him (Earl Grey) from granting certain papers relative to the invasion of the Tagus by the French fleet, which were moved for the other night, prevented him on the present occasion from complying with the Noble Earl's motion; and all he would say on that part of the subject was this, when the proper time came he should be prepared and ready to show, that the honour of the English nation had not been compromised as regarded her policy with the kingdom of Portugal. The Noble Earl, in a sneering manner, had given it to be under- stood, that he (Earl Grey) had a predilection for the Go- vernment of Portugal; to that he would say fearlessly, he had a strong predilection for a Government founded on right and justice, and was opposed to any Government which had not for its basis sound policy and justice. The Noble Lord (Aberdeen) had assumed a great many acts. He (Earl Grey) came there to discuss the question of produ- cing papers relative to Terceira, but the Noble Lord had gone into all the history of Portugal, and in the critical state of that country he (Earl Aberdeen) had not been afraid to scatter his firebrands. Respecting France he might say that she demanded satisfaction and it was refused but after all the invasion of Portugal, of which they had heard so much, was no invasion the ships were about to leave the Tagus, and there never were any troops on board to answer the purpose of invasion. In reference to what had been stated about the Emperor of Brazil, that individual had been driven from his country by his people; and if the Noble Earl means to assert that this Government was aiding in the for- mation of an expedition to put Don Pedro on the throne of Portugal, he distinctly denied it—there might be loans con- tracted for between Don Pedro and the large money-holders of the country, but of these the British Government could take no cognizance. Respecting the proceedings off Ter- ceira, the British Government could take no steps to pre- vent them. He would reniind the Noble Earl that there was an invasion of Tercei a by the Portuguese which was repulsed by the loss of 1600 men, which invasion he (Earl Grey) considered as a shameful breach of the international law; but compensation had been offered to the Government of Terceira in the affair alluded to by the Noble Earl. He was not prepared to say that that compensation justified the act; but orders had been sent to investigate the whole affair; an answer to which had not yet arrived, and until it did arrive he could not comply with the Noble Earl's mo- tion. When the invest gation at present pending had been terminated, he should have no objection to produce the pa- pers more immediately connected with this part of the sub- ject. In reference to the other part, viz., the papers re- specting the Azores, it was the first time ever such papers had been required upon such grounds. No such informa- tion as that upon which the Noble Earl's motion was grounded had yet come to the knowledge of Government; he (Earl Grey) therefore trusted that the House would see cause to negative the motion. He did not think a case was made out for the putting Ministers as it were on their de- fence, or for granting the information of the Noble Earl. The Duke of Wellington defended the Earl of Aberdeen, and was answered by Lord Holland.— The Earl of Aberdeen afterwards declined to press his motion, which was put and negatived. Several bills were then forwarded in their different stages, and the House adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. WEDNESDAY, Aug. 3.—REFORM BILL.—The House having resolved itself into a Committee on this Bill, the en- franchisement of the Greenwich district was the first pro- posed and Sir Robert Peel opposed it at great length the opposition of the Right Hon. Bart, also extended to all the other Metropolitan Districts. — Lord John Russell replied, and insisted on their claims to representation. The Com- mittee at length divided on the question whether "the me- tropolitan districts" should or should not return Members, and the numbers were—Ayes 295 Noes 188—Majority in favour of Ministers 107. Greenwich was consequently de- clared admitted into the class of represented towns, includ- ing the parishes of Deptford and W oolwich. It was afterwards resolved, without further opposition, that Sheffield, including in its constituency the townships of Eccleshall, Brightside, Nether and Upper Hallam, and At- tercliffe Sunderland, inclusive of the parishes of Bishop- wearmouth, Monksweai mouth, and Durham; and Devon- port, including the parishes of Stoke Daverell and township of Stonehouse, should stand part of schedule C. The Chair- man then reported progress, and the House resumed. THURSDAY, Aug. 4.—The Report of the Coleraine Election Committee was brought up, which set forth that Sir John Brydges had been unduly elected, and that W. T. Copeland, Esq. the petitioner, ought to have been returned. The return was then amended, and Mr. Alderman Copeland was introduced, and took the oaths, and his seat. Mr. S. Rice brought in a Bill to equalise the Duties upon Wine. Read a first time. Aft-, Attwood, in moving for a copy of the authority by which the Board of Customs had directed the levying of in- creased duties on wines, contrary to law, strongly complained of the Government having acted ona resolution of the House before a Bill had been brought in.—LordAlthorp and Mr. P. Thompson admitted that the course of proceeding was incor- rect, but it had been found convenient, and was not objected to by the trade and, it was added, that the Government had followed the precedent of 1825, when a resolution re- garding the wine duties was acted upon long before the Bill was brought in.—Ordered. Colonel Trench gave notice that on Monday next he should move the appointment of a select Committee to take into consideration the means of making the House more commo- dious and less unwholesome. REFORM BILI.The House having resolved itself into a Committee, after some desultory conversation the following districts were added to Schedule C :—Wolverhampton, in- cluding the townships of Wolverhampton, Bilston, Wiilen- hall, Wednesfieid, and the parish of Sedgiey, Staffordshire -the Tower Hamlets, including the parishes of the Tower division, Middlesex ;—Finsbary, including the parishes of the Finsbury division, of St. Andrew, Holborn, and St. George the Martyr, Saffron-hill, Hatton-Garden, Ely-place, Ely-rents, Libertvof the Rolls,and St. Giles and St. George, BIoomsbury ;—Marv-Ie-bone, including the parishes of Mary-le-bone, St. Pancras, and Paddington;—Lambeth, including the parishes of St. Mary Lambeth, St. Mary Ne- wington, Bermondsey, Rotherhithe, and Camberwell. The question that Schedule C stand as a clause in the Bill was then put and carried—thus establishing five electoral districts, and conferring on them ten representatives On Schedule D being entered upon, embracing the towns and districts to which it is proposed to give one Member each, Lord Milton said that it was at first his intention to move that al! the Boroughs in Schedule D stand part of Schedule C but instead of that course he meant to adopt another, which was to move, when that clause came to be considered, that instead of the word" one," the word" two" should be inserted.—-Mr. Littleton thought that Stoke-upon- Trent ought to have two Members, and moved that it be in- serted in Schedule C. This gave rise to some discussion, but the motion was negatived by a majority of 101. x It was next proposed by Lord John Russell to fill up the blank in the clause referring to Schedule D with one Mem- ber.—Lord Milton then moved his amendment to substitute two—Sir Robert Peel supported the amendment, and Sir Francis /> a rilcl t <ni d Lord Althorp opposed it. On a division the numbers were -for the original motion 231, for the amendment 102. The blank was consequently ordered to be filled up with the word one." The Chairman then re- ported progress, and the House rose at two o'clock. FRIDAY, Aug. 5.-After the presentation of several pe- titions, Lord Althorp in answer to a question from Colonel Perceval, stated that the Irish Estimates would be brought forward on Monday se'nnight. FOREIGN AFFAIRS.—Sir R. Vyvyan wished to ask whe- ther Government had received any notification that the Armistice between Holland and Belgium had been broken, and whether the communication had been made by the Dutch Government, or by our own Minister, Sir Charles Bagot 1"—The, Chancellor of the Exchequer (in the absence of the Secretary of Foreign Affairs), in reply said, that the armistice was broken, and that the knowledge of the fact communicated by Sir C. Bagot. The Noble Lord added —"It was with the greatest possible surprise Govern- ment had received the statement from our Ambassador, Sir Charles Bagot, of the rupture of .the armistice by the orders of the King of Holland the more so, because at that moment an Ambassador from that kingdom had reached this country for the purpose of negociating here on the subjects in controversy between that King and Belgium. The Mi- nister of Holland had even had an interview on the subject of that negociation with the Noble Lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, during which no disclosure took place as to the order of the Dutch Government."—Sir R. Vyvyan then gave notice that he should avail himself of the House sitting to-morrow to bring this important subject under the consi- deration of the House. REFORM BILL.—The House in Committee then proceeded with Schedule D, and agreed that the following places should stand part of the clause, and have the privilege of sending one Member to Parliament:—Brighton, Bolton-Ie-Moors, Blackburn, Bradford Cheltenham, Dudley, Frome, Gates- head, Huddersfield, Kidderminster, Kendal, Macclesfield, Oldham, Rochdale,Salford, South Shields, Stockport, Stoke- upon-Trent, Tynemouth, Wakefield, Warrington, and Whitby. The question of Gateshead, a suburb of Newcastle, was debated for a considerable length of time, on a motion by Mr. Croker that it be united with Newcastle, as the total population in that case would not have equalled the amount of population in Bolton. Lord Althorp contended that the wealth and population of Gateshead fully justified the proposition. Mr. Knight contrasted the case of Gateshead with that of Merthyr Tydvil. According to the census of 1821 (to which they were too often referred), the population of Merthyr Tydvil was 19,000, while that of Gateshead was only 11,767. Now Gateshead, situated in a district which already had numerous representatives, was to have a distinct represen- tati e for itself; whilst Merthyr Tydvil, situated in the most central part of the iron manufacturing district of England, in a district, too, having but a small number of represen- tatives, was not to have a Member. That town stood upon the borders of Monmouthshire, Brecknock and Glamorgan- shire, of which counties, under the new scheme, the totality of the representation would be only nine Members. He would ask how were the interests of the iron manufacturer to find a due share in the representation under these new enactments? Although the population of Merthyr Tydvil appeared, by the returns of 1821 to be no more than between 17,000 and 18,000 (but if the suburbs were taken in, the whole amount would be nearly 20,000), the population, ac- cording to the returns of 1831, amounted to 26,000. Instead of giving that place a representative, his Majesty's Ministers threw it in as a paltry addition to a distant sea-port, which had already its representatives. Itw s unnecessary to speak of the injustice done to Cardiff itself by the new arrange- ment.( Hear, hear.) For these reasons he could not con- sent to give a Member to the suburb of Newcastle. Mr. Wood observed that Durham would have only one Member for every 34,000 inhabitants, whilst Glamorgan would have one for every 28,000. Lord Granville Somerset said Glamorgan, and the county (Monmouthshire) he represented, had made complaints to the Minister of not being sufficiently represented under the Bill. They were not so fortunate as the county of Durham. He hoped the coal-fields of the south and west would receive as much from the Noble Lord's opponents as the coal-fields to the north. Sir II. Hardinge said he had heard no reason why Gates- head should receive an additional Member, and should not be united to Newcastle, while Cardiff was to be united to Merthyr Tydvil, at twenty-five miles distance, and had a population of 30,000. A round this seat of our manufactures, there were 180,000 people, as he was informed unrepresented. He did not understand, therefore, why an additional Member was to be given to Gateshead, while an additional Member could not be given to that part of the country. There was no part of the Bill so objectionable, as this of giving a Mem- ber to Gateshead. Lord Althorp said the reason why the Government drew a distinction between the case of Gateshead and Merthyr Tyd- vil was this, that Merthyr Tydvil was situated in Wales, where the system of contributory boroughs had always pre- vailed, and which was so continued with respect to other places in the schedule. Lord James Stuart said his constituents of the borough of Cardiff had good reason to complain when they found them- selves likely to be joined by the inhabitants of Merthyr Tyd- vil, a place 25 miles distant from them; and that too on no better reason, he had heard, than that they were situate in the principality of Wales.—( Hear, hear.)—The town of Car- diff had upwards of 6,000 inhabitants, and 360 ten-pound householders. Cowbridge, which was to be joined with it, had upwards of 60 ten-pound householders—Handaff, 19 or 20—making in all 450 ten-pound voters, without those of Merthyr Tydvil; and when it was recollected, that in places like Calne and Morpeth there was barely the number of in- habitants above 4,000, and that they were to retain two Mem- bers, he thought the people of Cardiff had good reason to consider themselves aggrieved. He had come down to the House with a prejudice against Gateshead, created by cir- cumstances with which the Members of the House were not familiar, but he had heard much to alter his opinion.-He hoped, however, that the Government would take the case of Cardiff into its consideration, and allow its constituents the exercise of their privileges, unfettered by a junction with Merthyr Tydvil.—( Hear, hear.) Lord John Russell said, that although there was an appa- rent hardship in the case of Merthyr Tydvil, still it should be recollected by the Noble Lord that the Bill gave two addi- tional Members to the representation of Glamorgrnshire; and when it was also recollected that the county had only 100,000 inhabitants and that it would then possess four representatives, he thought its inhabitants could not com- plain much of their want of a due proportion of Members. With respect to Gateshead, he could only say, that its wealth, population, and commerce, formed a full justification for placing it among the places in schedule D A division at length took place, when the original motion was carried by a majority of 104. The Chairman reported progress, and asked leave to sit again to-morrow (Saturday), which gave rise to a short dis- cussion, Mr. Goutburn strongly objecting to be compelled to sit for five days in every week, and insisting that some re- laxation from their fatigues was necessary.—The Chancellor of the Exchequer, in pressing the House to sit on Saturday, felt that he was only discharging his duty.—Sir R. Peel entered his protest against the course pursued by the Noble Lord, as unwise and unjust, and not calculated to benefit the cause of Reform. Tired and jaded as Members must be after such a laborious attention to their duties,he considered it as against the general practice of the House to compel the attendance of Members on every Saturday and Wednesday, and for no necessary purpose.—The Chancellor of the Ex- chequer considered that the more the House attended to one subject the better they would understand it; and as to not sitting on the Wednesday, it was in former times merely to suit the Government.—The question was then put and carried, and the House adjourned till to-morrow. SATURDAY, August 6.-FoREIGN AFFAIRs.-The House re-assembled at twelve o'clock this day. Lord Althorp took the earliest opportunity of suggesting to Sir R. Vyvyan the propriety of deferring his motion relative to the affairs of Belgium for the present, on the ground that, in the present state of things, it would be attended with danger to disclose all the information which the Government were in possession of. The following interesting conversation after. wards arose on the subject:—The Marquess of Chandos asked ifi): were true that a French army had marched into Bel- gium, and if so, whether it had the sanction of his Majesty's Government.—Lord Palmerston said he had that morning received a dispatch from Lord Granville, stating that he had been informed by the French Govenrment that the King of Holland had broken the armistice and entered Belgium, and that in consequence the French Government had ordered an army to enter Belgium, for the purpose of assisting the Belgians in the protection of their country, and the preservation of the integritv of their territory. The Noble Marquessthen inquired whether application had been made by the King of the Belgians to this country for assis- tance? Lord Palmerston replied, the moment the King of the Belgians understood that the King of the Netherlands was about to violate the armistice and enter the territory of his dominions, he had communicated the facts to the Govern- ment of the King of England, as well as to that of France.- Lord Stormont asked whether the French army ordered to Belgium was marching thither with the approbation of our Government? and whether their marching was the result of any agreement previously entered into ?—Lord Palmerston said the only answer he could make was, the statementalreadv communicated by him to the house, that as soon as the French government had ordered troops to advance for the protection of Belgium, they communicated the fact immediately to the English Ambassador in Paris; and the intelligence received through that functionary had only this morning reached his Majesty's Government.—His Lordship then asked whether the marching of the French troops was the result of a con- currence by previous agreement between France and Eng- land ?.—Lord Palmerston replied that no one could foresee that the King of the Netherlands would have broken through the armistice. The Five Powers of the Conference of London had engaged to each other to maintain the neutrality and independence of Belgium, and the preservation of the integrity of its territory.—Sir R Vyvyan, in conclusion, said lie would only ask one question—Was it the intention of his Majesty's government to send the fleet in the Channel to the assistance of the Belgians? (Hear.) That was what the whole question hinged upon and if that was answered, he should at once abandon his motion. ( Hear, hear.) Delibe- ration appeared to be at an end, and the question was there- fore of the utmost importance.-Lol'd Palmerston-Whatever measures h:s Majesty's government might take they were responsible for, and when they had taken any step they were ready to meet the responsibility; but he did not think it his duty to answer the specific question put to them. (Hear.) He denied that negociations were, as had been stated, at an end (hear, hear), and nothing had, as yet, happened to lead him to think that they were likely to be involved, in conse- quence of this affair, in a general war. His Majesty's go- vernment, on the contrary, were doing all in their power at this moment to avert the threatening evils of war.-The Hon. Bart. then said he should not bring forward his motion until Tuesday. REFORM BILL.-The House having resolved itself into a Committee on this bill, the questions that Kendal, Walsall, and Whitehaven do stand part of the Bill, were, after con- siderable discussion, agreed to:—The Chairman then put the question that Schedule D stand part of the Bill, which was agreed to. Thefourth clause was then put, and even- tually carried, "that Weymouth and Melcombe Regis return two Members"—(they at present return four). The Chairman reported progress, and the House adjourned to Monday.

BANKRUPTS from Tuesday's Gazette. To Surrender in Basinghall-street. J. REDFOORD DAVIS, Liverpool, ship-owner, August 9, 12, Sept. 13. Atts. Philpot and Tanner, Philpot-lane, London. S. JAMES PARNELL, And ley-street, Grosvenor-square, auctioneer, Aug. 16 23, Sep. 13. Att. Chester, New Kent-road. PETER DIXON, Newbury, Berks, tea dealer, Aug. 5,19, Sep. 13. Att. Cattin, Ely-place, Holborn. JOHN Hutcrinos, Curnaby-street, Golden-sqilare, tinman, Aug. 9, 16, Sep. 13. Att. Waison. Gerraid-street, Soho. JOHN RATCUFF, Aston, near Birmingham, victualler, Aug. 5, 12, Sep. 13. Atts. Norton and Chaplin, or Hawkins and Richards, Bir. mingham. To Surrender in the Country. THOMAS SI ATHAM, sen., Clunlon, Shropshire, cattle-dealer, A&ij. 25, i 26, Sep. 13, at the Talbot-inn, Shrewsbury. Atts. Philpot and iy.one, 'I Southampton-street, Bloomsbury, London, or Kougli, Shrewsbury, THOMAS DAVIES, Swansea, Glamorganshire, rope-maker, Aug. 19,10, Sep. 13, at the Commercial-rooms, Bristol. Atts. Aicks, and Eraik- enridge, Bartlett's-buildiugs, Hoiborn, London, or Peters, Bristol. WILLIAM PAaity, Liverpool, slaterr Aug. 29, 30, and Sep. 13, at the Clarendon-buildings, Liverpool. Att. Atkinson, Liverpool, or Ad- lington, Gregory, and Faulkner, Hedfonl-röw.¡. THOMAS GRAVES, jnn., Hales Owen, Salop, inn-keeper, Aug. 26, 27, Sep. 13, at Dee's Hotel, Birmingham, or Amory and Coles, Throg- morton-street, London. THOMAS REES, Crunilin, Monmouthshire, shopkeeper, Aug. 2*2, 23, Sep. 13, at the Commercial-rooms, Bristol. Att. Flower, Gray's Inn-square, or Perkins, Bristol. JAMES LAMO. Hoghton-Bottoms, Lancashire, calico-printers, Sep. 0, 7, 13, at the Hotel, Blilckburn. Atts. :Milne and Parry, Temple, London, or Dogson, Blackburn. JAMES HINCHLIFFE, Leicester, machine-maker, Ang. 11, 12, Sep. 13, at Barlow's Commercial-rooms, Leicester. Alt. Ravvson, Leicester, or Taylor, Featherstone-buiidings, Holborn. ROBERT LUNUIE, Kingston-upo'n-Hnll, wine-merchant, Aug. 15, 16, Sep. 13, at the George-inn, Kingston-upon-Hull, or Norton and Chap- lin, Gray's Inn square. BANKRUPTS from Friday's Gazette. To Surrender in Basmghall-street. F. BAPTIST, Lock's-fields, Walworth, timber-merchant, Aug. 9, 19, Sep. 16. Att. Shackell, Tokeubouse-yard. S. H. NOCKELLS, SJincing lane, wine-merchant, Aug. 12, 19, Sep. 16. Att. Towne, Broad-street Buildings. M. BRISTOW and J BRrsTow, Ratcliff-highway, Middlesex, fire-en- gine-maker, Aug. 12, 19, Sep. 16- Atts. Willey and Morris, Bank- chambers, Lothbury. T. FALL, Leyburti, Yorkshire, bookseller, Aagust24, 25, Sep. 16, at the Kinn's Head Inn, Richmond, Yoikshire. Atts. Blakelock and Fid- dey, Fleet-street, London, or Simpson, Richmond, Yorkshire. J. HA WKES, Pall-Mali, silk-mercer, Aug. 9, 10, Sep. 16. Att. Rogers, 1\1 anchcster.buihlings, Westminster. To Surrender in the Country. J. WELLACE, Belfast, Ireland, merchant, Aug. 24, 26, Sep-16, at the Star Inn, Manchester. Atts. Makinson and Saunders, Temple, Lon- don, or Hadfield, Manchester. J. CHAPMAN, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, victualler, Aug. 17, 18, Sep. 16, at the Three Tons Inn. Trowbridge. Att. Berkeley, Lincoln's Inn, or Basil, Trowbridge. D. SHARP, Maiden, Essex, cattle-dealer, Aug. 12, 19, Sep. 16. Alts. Pattison, William, Essex, or Brooksbank and Fern, Gray's-Inn- square, London. C. T. DUNLEVIE, Liverpool, broker, Aug. 24, 25, Sep. 16, at the Cla- rendon-rooms, Liverpool. Atts. Lowe, Chancery-lane, Lendon, or Lowe, Liverpool. COPPER ORE • Sold at CAMBORNE, on Thursday, Aug. 4, 1831. MI N ES. TONS. PURCHASERS. PRICE. Dolcoath 120 Crown Co £ 2 7 O Ditto 105 Williams, Foster, and Co. and Usborne, Benson, and Co. 18 0 f Ditto 104 Owen Williams 5 11 O 1 Ditto 103 Williams, Foster, and Co. and Usborne, Benson, and Co. 3 16 Ditto S4 Birmingham Co. and O. Williams 5 11 6 Ditto 77 Mines Royal Co. 66 a Ditto 71 Vivian and Sons 2 110 Ditto 70 Birmingham Co.496 Ditto 68 Freeman and Co. 8 13 0 Ditto 65 Mines Royal Co. 4 15 6 Ditt0 .61 Freeman & Co 7 13 6 Ditto 57 Ditto 980 Ditto 27 Vivian and Soiis 11 110 Cook's Kitchen 88 Crown Co 2 17 6 Ditto 67 Ditto 336 Ditto 66 Owen Williams 4120 Ditto 43 Crown Co.418 Wh. Tolgns 93 Williams, Foster, and Co. and Usborne, Benson, and Co.950 Ditto 6(i Vivian and Sons and Crown Co. 10 10 6 Ditto 1;4 Vivian and Sons 9 15 d Stray Park BO Ditto 6 16 O Ditto. 58 Mines Royal Co. and Usborne, Benson, and Co 3 12 0 Ditto 17 Williams, Foster, & Co. and P. Gren- fell and Co.200 Fowey Consols 110 Vivian and Sons. 6 0 6 Who Strawberry 55 Mines Royal Co.440 Ditto 54 Vivian and Sons 3 5 0 Lanescot 94 Ditto, and Williams, Foster, and Co. 5 19 a South Wh Towan 67 Williams, Foster, and Co. 3 7 6 Ditto 20 Ditto 140 Wh. Vyvyan 50 Ditto 430 Wh. Music 22 Vivian and Sons 17 10 8 Ditto 9 Williams, Foster, and Co 3 6 0 Wh. Charles.. 30 Birmingham Co 4 4 6 South Dolcoath 22 Vivian and Sons. 3 8 a Quantity of Copper Ore sold, 2200 tons.-Average Produce, 7f.— Quantity of tine Copper, 170 tons, 18 cwt.—Amount of Salt, £ 11,705 10s. 6d.—Average Standard flt)40s.0d. :lMarketø. MARK-LANE, LONDON, Monday, Auyust B.-Last week there was a small arrival of English grain, and a tolerable good quantity of foreign wheat and oats. This morning the fresh supply of corn is small We have within these few days had several heavy thunder showers, which has laid the heavy crops, but there has been also some fine weather which still continues. The best parcels of wheal have obtained Is. to 2s. per quarter advance on the terms of this day se'nnight, but the general trade for both English and foreign wheat has been dull throughout the morning. In bonded wheat some trans- actions have taken place at advanced rates. Some new white wheat, vet y fine, has sold at 76s. to 79s.; some very thin at 55s, per quarter. Barley, malt, beans, and pease remain at last reported. Some new boilers have sold at 45s. to 48s. per quarter.' Oats, of good sweet quality, firmly maintain their last quotations, but such as are un. sweet meet a vety dull sale. In thejlour trade there is little doing, and prices are unaltered. PRICE OF GRAIN. -Per Imperial Quarter. s. S. I. ». Red Wheat, old —to— Maple, new 40 to 43 New 55 65 White, new 36 40 Superfine 66 70 Extra 42 44 White, old — — Small Beans, new 0 0 New 60 70 Ditto, old — — Superfine 72 76 Tick, new 36 38 White, Foreign 52 72 Ditto, old 42 43 Red, ditto 50 OS Feed Oats, old — — Barley, Grinding .26 31 Ditto, new 22 24 Ditto, Malting 0 o Poland, old — — Malt 64 70 Ditto, new 24 27 Fine 64 72 Potatoe 28 30 Hog Pease, new 38 40 Irish, new 22 2# FLOUR, per Sack of 280/6. Best. 55s. to 60s. I Second. 45s. to 528. AVERAGE PRICE OF CORN, per Qr. For the Week ending July 29, 1831, and by which importation is regulated. *■ d. s. d. s. d. Wheat .64 6 Oats .26 1 Beans .40 1 Barley 30 10 Rye .40 1 Pease 42 10 PRICE OF SEEDS. 8* s. a. h Turnip, White, per bush. 6 to 10 Clover, Red, per cwt. 45to 60 Red and Green 6 12 White 56 67 Mustard, Brown 12 19 Foreign Red. 52 63 White 10 18 Foreign White.. 56 73 Canary, per quarter 60 60 Trefoil 30 35 Sanfoin 56 60 Carraway 52 56 Rye Grass 32 36 Coriander 56 8S PRICE OF HOPS, in Pockets, per Cwt. £ s. £ s. £ s. £ s. Kent 7 7 to 12 0 Sussex 7 0 to 8 O Essex 7 0 9 0 Farnham 7 0 16 0 PRICE OF TALLOW AND SOAP^peTcwt. s. d. s. d. 8. d. Town Tallow 46 0 Melted Stuff 34 0 Yellow Soap 64 0 Russia Candle.. 43 0 Ditto Rough ..21 0 Mottled ditto ..70 0 Ditto White ..0 0 Graves 14 0 Curd diito 74 0 PRICE OF MEAT. SMi rHFjELP.—To sink the offal, per stone of Sibs. s. d. s. d. s. d. B. d. Beef 34 to 40 Veal 44 to 56 Mutton 3 8 4 6 Pork 40 48 Lamb 4s. 8d. to 5s. Sd. Head of Cattle.—.2,48*2 Beasts, 310 Calves, 25,320 Sheep, 230 Pigp. By the Carcase.^—Per stone of 8lbs. NEWGATE. S. d. s. d. Leadenhall. S. d. ». d. Beef 2 8 to 3 8 Beef 2 8 to 3 10 Mutton 3 0 4 0 Mutton 3 0 4 0 Veal 30 48 Veal 2 8 4 10 Pork 30 48 Pork -3 6 4 8 Lamb 34 50 Lamb 34 Price of ROUGH FAT, 2s. 6d. per stone. ,>RICE ()F IRON British Bars, fiZ. 5s. to ol. Os.; Ditto Pigs, 41. 15s. to 51. 0s.; Hoops, 9i. 10s. to 01. Os. BRISTOL PRICE CURRENT. SUGAR. S. S. COFFEE. a. P., Muse.veryBrown(perewt.) 45to46 Fine ditto 70t072 -D ry Brown .47 43 Very fine ..r4 80 Middling 49 51 RUM. Good ditto 52 54 Jamaica (per gal.) 2 3 3 6 Good 55 56 Leeward Isle 1 10 2 2 Pine. 58 60 LOGWOOD. E. S. C.. Molasses "23 24 Jamaica (per cwt.) 6 10 6 15 COFFEE. St. Domingo 6 16 7 0 Jamaica, triage (per cwt.) 32 33 Campeachy 7 15 8 0; Ordinary 40 45 Fustic, Jamaica 5 15 6 15 Good ditto 46 4" ——— Cuba- 9 0 10, 0. Fine ditto 50 52! OIL. Middling 54 60 Gallipoli (per tun) ..43,0 44. # Good ditto 62 68 Sicily. 41 O 42 0 Average Price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, for the week ending July 19, 24s. 5d. per cwt. CORN AND HAY MARKETS, Aug. 5. s. d. if. d. s. d. s. d. Wheat, English 68 0 £ o76 0 Beans. 38 0Co4G 0 per qr. Irish and Welsh 62 0 70 0 J •> Pease 38 0 54 0 Malting Barley 38 0 42 0\^ g1 Wh. Flour.. 54 ft 56 Opersack Grinding ditto.. 28 0 30 0/a Seconds 50 0 52 0 Oats 22 0 26 OV^ Hay 45 O 65 0 per ton. Vetches — 0 — 0 ? Straw.15 l lo perdoz* NORWICH CORN AND MEAT MARKETS, AUG. 6. The supply of wheat at this day's market was equal to the demand: — Wheat, red, 56s. to 65s. ditto, white, to 67s. Barley, 29s. to 35s. Oats, 23s. to 31s Beans, 38s. to 40s. Pease, 40s. to 41s. per quarter Flour, 49s. to 50s. per sack. We had a good supply of fat cattle at this day s marlcet: prices, 6s. (id. to 7s. per stone of 14 lbs. sinking offal. Of store stock it was large Scots, 3s. 6d. to 4s., those in forward condition, 4s. 6d. per stone of what they wilt weigll when fat. Short-horns, 3s. to 3s. 6d. Cows and calves selling at fair prices; but little trade with horses. The sheep pens were well supplied: shearlings, 25s. to 37s. Lambs, 15s. to 22s. 6d. Pigs obtained less prices, fat ones to 5s. 9d, per stone.—Meat: Beef, 5d. to 8d. Veal, 5d. to 7d. Mutton, Sd. 19, 6\d. Lamb, 6d. to Id. Pork, sd. to 6%d-per lb. 2