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ABERYSTWYTH BOARD OF GUARDIANS, Monday, October I 5th. Present: Mr. Edwin Morris, Aberystwyth, presiding; Mrs. Morgan, Penll wyn; Mrs. E. H. James, Mrs. Captain Doughton, Mrs. J. T. Da vies4, Messrs. AV. Thomas, B. E. Morgan, E.. Llewellin, .1. n. Griffiths. Aberystwyth; D. Bonner, Llanaian; John Roberts, TTchayndre; Thomas Jenkins, Llanfi- hangel Lower; R-. L. Thomas, Tirmyn- ach; J. L. Powell, Cwmrheidol; David Lewis, Llanrhystyd: David James, Pen-I llwyn; J. Bunco Morgan, Glanfread; Messrs. Owen Morgan, assistant clerk William Lloyd, master; and the reliev- ing officers. The War The following resolution passed by the Ponte-tract Guardians on the motion of Mr. Herbert Smith, C.C., president of the Yorkshire Miners Asso- ciation, was submitted :—That in the opinion of tlii-s meeting the Government of this country ought to at once make, ade- quate provision for all persons who are injured whilst doing service for the country in this war and in case of doast.ii for their dependents; and further recom- mend that the money required for this purpose should be raised by a special in- come tax to be levied on all incomes ex- ceeding 30s. per week.Alr. William Thomas: We know that the Government is doing all it can and its hands are full. No Government in the case of war has ever been so active. I am sure that the Government will do all that can be done in all directions.—The Chairman said the matter was so important that it could not be discussed without notice of motion On the proposition of Mrs. James, seconded by Mrs. Captain Doughton, the resolution was left on the table. Obituary.-nw Master reported the death at the Workhouse on October 1st of Thomas William Oliver, a native of Aber- ystwyth. TOWN COUNCIL, Tuesday, October 6th — Present: Alderman 1). C. Roberts, mayor, presiding; Alderman C)1 Williams and Cap l. Dough ton; Councillors Daniel Thomas T. J." Samuel, E. P. Wynne, John Evans, Professor Edwards, K. L'ewellin, J. Barclay Jenkins, Ednfin Morris, and David Davies; Messrs. John Evans, deputy town clerk; R. M. Bryden, borough accountant; Rees Jones, borough surveyor; and James Evans, sanitaiv inspector BILLETING OF RECRUITS. The- abstract of letters on the agenda stated that on September 14th the Local Government Board sent an abstract of the speech of the Prime Minister in which reference w::s made to difficulty recently experienced in finding accomro xlntion and suitable catering provision for recruits. Letters dated September 16th and 20th were also received from Colonel Sir John ¡ Barns! oy relating to the billeting at Ali0r- ystwyth of 1,000 men of the Birmingham "Citv Battalion. The said so far the Birmingham Battalion had not obtained permission of the War Office to go to Aberystwyth; but the tiling was not final, and he suggested that the matter should be considered in -committee at the end of the meeting. Mr. Llewellin said if it was considered in Committee the public would not know what the C ouncil was doing. He had been told while in that tocm of the existence of rutnoura in the town that the Battalion was not coming through tle t'iilllt of the I' Council in not answering lectors promptly. That was not the fact. Another rumour .was to ti), effect that the ivas flCt coming berause the College authorities objected. TTnit also wa3 not true. As he knew from Mr. Evans. the deputy elerk, every -top had been taken by the Ccuftcil that could be *'lk.. the reason the Battalion was pot conung was not owing to any fault of the Council, but because the War Office hnd net con- sent. It ha\ ing been decided to read the cor- respondence relating to the matter, the Deputy Clerk ¡;:lid that on P-ftntenib^r 16th Sir John Barnsley wrote., The letter was addressed to the District Council, and there was ;1. little delay in reaching T-. Sir John if Aberystwyth r-(itil(I billot 1,000 of the Birmingham City Battalion at 2s. 9d. pef dnv, saving that be thought the lod<zing-houce keepers wonkl like it ?o" the off-season. Ho immediately replied saving there would be a meeting of the Works Comnrttoe on the fenowmo; even- ing, and on Satnrdav morning, tile 10th. he wired that the Council- would lender every assistance and that was plenty of good rt"com:n-odation. He followed that, up hv;1. letter co"Rratine the telenrram and amplifying it. On Sopteirihor 20th he re- ceived a letter f; nm Sir John Bfvnalcy' saying that he was pnttjrjg the matter be- fore the mil'tary euihoHlies and would write in a few days He (the Deputy Clerk) wrote to Mr AVill-pmson, of the Cambrian Railways, asking h;rn to suTwert the action of the Cbuncil, and Mr. AVilliamson wrote saying that ho had instructed the tym- pany's Birmingham çfit call en John Barnsley and do ovcytirn^ possible y to secure the <??a>taTion for Aherystwvth. On the 24th the Town Clerk Hugb«>s^ wrote to the AW>r Office r-dline att^ntin" to the facilities offered bv A heJ"yt.w-th Yid the neighbourhood, spying there w:i. lo lg ng house aceommodatic'i in the to-.vji for. at least 15,000. and T>olntinrr out the advan- tages of tlie di-strv-t for brigade and divi- sional camps. On the 1st Oct.-b- Mr. Hughes also wrote to Gene-al MeKinnon Tirg'iig him to do wha he con hi and when the letter v as sent t.) the War a copy,v- sent to Mr. A a^.char Divies. wif1 a reouest to suvpeit the anphcation and see that it tcached the right <jna.rteys. In addition to tnat the Cenn-' iJ ^e.nt comes of Mr. Hu'ches's letter to the War Office and Mr. Williamson's circular to al! com- mands at Sh"c.wsbniv. Lichfield, York, Brecon, Cardiff, and Chester. Having re- ceived no rep. he wrote to Sir John Barnsley on the 29th, who replied that he had: asked for permission to send the Bat- talion to Abervstwvth. but so far the authorities had refused to allow them to doso. He was v yry isorsry. He. -Itli a Deputy Clerk) saw Dr. Stephenson, who suceeded I the Rev. War burr on Lewis at Aberystwyth, who would probably have some- mfluenrc-e. I with Sir John. Dr Stephenson kindly wrote and received a reply on Sunday from Sir John saying the Battalion wn ünb too anxious to go to Aberystwyth, but for some reason or other the authorities re- fused to allow them to do m. That was where the matter now stood, except that he wrote to Sir John. Barnsley thanking him for his reply and hoping that something might still be done. Captain Doughton feared there was some misunderstanding and proposed that a deputation of the Mayor and the Town Clerk should be appointed to wait on the War Office. A deputation would do more in ten minutes than ten or twenty letters. The Mayor suggested the addition of It r* Vaujrhan Da vies, and the proposition was a,red to. Mr. David Davies asked if it was true that the Birmingham Battalion had been I sent to gonle other place? Mr. Llewellin replied that there Were three battalions, and one had been sent to some other place. Mr. Barclay .Jenkins thought that the correspondence would prove that the Coun- cil had done whatever lay in its power to get the Battalion to Aberystwvth. He understood from one of t^be Birmingham papers that ore of the battalions had gone into camp at Sutton. CORRESPONDENCE. A report was read from Dr. Findlny sav ing that the illuminating power of gas was 17.2, which was weg above the standard. Mr. Studt wrote asking for information as to entertainments at November fairs— whether they would be stopped because of the war-and the letter was referred to the .Markets Committee, with power to act, as the time is short. A letter was read from the Local Gov- ernment Board sanctioning the borrowing of L534 instead of £ 500 for the improve- ment of Nort-road corner. Mr. J. V. Lewis wrote with reference to the request of the Council to pav Is. each for chairs on South Beach, saying that the payment would amount to the total taking and hoping that the Council would include the r-harge in the charge for bath, ing vans. The letter was referred to the General Purposes Committee. The annual report of P.O. Daniel Thomas, inspector of boats, carriages, etc., was also referred to the General Purposes Committee. I It was agreed to allow Mr. Llewelyn Jones, B.A. post graduate and research I student at the College, to have access to the harbour records in investigating the f history of lead mining in Wales. THE TOWN OLFRK. The Mayor ".I ri it would be observed that the Town Clerk was not present that morning. On Friday morning Mr Hughes telephoned saying that. his brother. Mr. John Hughes, had died. and that he was sorry he would not be able to attend the, Council meeting. He was, sure all mem- bers of the Council would agree with him in proposing a vote of sympathy with Mr Hughes and the family in that sad event. The vote was agreed to by the members upstanding. KING EDWARD MEMORIAL FUND. Mr. Daniel Thomas reported that a total of C417 4s. had been subscribed at Aberyst- wyth to tlie King Edward Memorial Fund for the stamping out of tuberculosis. Captain Doughton proposed that the names of each subscriber should bo advei. tised in the papers, as was done in respect of othe- collections. Mr. Daniel Thomas suggested the print- ing of a list: but it was agreed to adver- tise the subscriptions. PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE'S REPORT. The Works Committee recommended that the Council's consent should be given to the laying of an overhead telegraph line ifrom Trefechan to Penparke and that the Deputy Clerk should write to the Depart- ment stating that the Council feel strongly that the postal authorities should show an equal readiness to meet the reasonable wishes of the Council as,* for instance, in the removal of telegraph posts in Alex- andra-road and Queen-street and calling attention to the stay placed in the Cor- poration yard without the knowledge of the Council which would have to be re- moved to make room for the new sewerage tanks. On the report of the sub-com- mittee re Surveyor's department the Borough Accountant was instructed to pre- pare specimen stores day-book and stores day-sheet suitable for the requirements of the borough. It was resolved to invite tenders by advertisement for the after- math and winter run of Llanbadarn meadows and the field adjoining Plaserug- avenue from 7th October to March 1st. The Committee appointed re buildings on Brynhyfryd Farm recommended that cer- tain buildings should be purchased at D10 and that Mr. Garner had signed agreement of tenancy subject to the boundary fence adjoinitig the footpath and read on the east side was put in good repair. The Surveyor was instructed to visit Lion Hotel Laundry and report what should be done by the owner to put an end to the alleged nuisance caused by smoke. The Committee recommended that demolition orders should be made in respect of a house at Penparke occupied by John Bramner and 4. Foun- tain-court occupied by Margaret AVarring- ton. The Committee approved plans of alterations and additions at Lloyds Bank, Terrace-road. Colonel Sir John Barnsley wrote on the 16th September asking if Aberystwyth was willing and able to billet 1,000 men cf the Birmingham City Battalion for the winter months at 2s. gel. per day per man and the Deputy Clerk u as instructed to reply in the affirmative, that the Council will render every assist- ance, and that there is plenty of good accommodation in the town. Captain Doughton asked if there was not other thing decided by, the Com- mittee on Friday with regard to the appointment of someone to assist the Sur- veyor in taking the levels of sewers? Mr Samuel said the subject was referred to in committee, and it was referred to the Surveyor to communicate with Mr. Diggle, and .he had now .rcc-eired the information.: Captain Dcraghtou- said the Committee intrlrtcd the Surveyor to r-ee if there was not a' young meln in the town or neigh- bourhood in the case of failure to find a I suitable man to apply to Mr. Diggle; and if Mr. Diggle had nobody, to advertise. On the 18th September the Surveyor re- ported that "he was unably to find anybody locally, but Mr. Ditr,4, recommended one of his clerks at 55s. a week. That was a big sum. to P?y, ,«'Pd. it seemed to him absurd to say that there \VieS not a. single I person in the place capable of doing the work and that the Council should pay 55s. a week to a stranger. He could scarcely believe that Aberystwyth was so poor in ability. He proposed in committee that the Council's requirement should be adver- tised. There v, as no record at all on the agenda of what was done in committee. Had they engaged a man? Mr Samuel, chairman of the Committee, on a. point of order, said that sUlreet was not on the agenda. Captain Doughton—It ought to be. Mr. ft ought not to be,^because the matter was on at the previous meeting of the Works Committee and-the investiga- tion was not completed. T!? Mayor pomted cut that any member I had a right to ask ouestions on the Com- mittee's report, so that Captain Doughton was in order. C'otain Doughton—I am not blaming the Chairman of the. Committee. Mr. Samuel—I object to the Surveyor answering because the matter must be re- ported to and considered in committee. Captain Dough top. said he did not olject to that: but with reference to the report of Mr. Pecoek and taking into considera- tion all tll" had been gone through, it appeared that there were some individuals employed by the Council and there was no minute to show who gave them authority to act. If that assistant of the Surveyor's was aupointed without advertising there ought to be some record of it. If not, thete would be no record and no Govern- ment auditor would pass it. The-e was a case in point. He did not want to go into it but that was his reason for referring to the present matter. The Mayor said the matter would fto considered by the Committee, and there would be a report. Alderman AAllliams having remarked that the ordinary course had been followed, the report of jhe IVorks Committee was adopted. FINANCE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. The Finance Committee recommended that payment of £ 2.483 2sr 2d. bills and wages as well as repayment of loans and payments of interest. A list of persons to whom interest was due was printed on the agenda. A letter from the Local Govern- ment Board with reference to officers of local authorities on naval or military ser- vice was again considered and the Mayor and the Chairman of the Committee were asked to see Dr. Rees, county medical officer, and report as to what sum should be paid by the Council to Dr. Reesf in respedt cf the discharge by him of Dr. Thomas's duties and what portion of Dr. Thomas's salary should be paid to him dur- ing his absence on military duty. The Deputy Clerk was instructed to write to ( Air. J. V. Lewis for immediate payment of Is. in respect of each chair placed by him on South Beach this year. .Captain Doughton, referring to the recommendation of the Committee to sell copies of the abstract of accounts at Is. each, said he objected to the recommend a. tion. maintaining that the abstract v as not a correct statement. Surely they could not possibly let it go to the public and charge Is. for it when they knew that it was not correct. He should like to !sk the Bqjrough Accountant, through the Mayor, if he had received the deficiency The Borough Accountant know when: it was in a certain payment in the abstract of accounts. Had the' deficiency been paid into the borough a(%ount.P The Mayor—You refer to the --v4 9 The Borough Accountant—lit has been paid into the bank. Captain Doughton said that proved that what he said was correct—that the abstract of accounts should be rectified, because somebody would find it out ,.O{'e time. They might have :t new or a changed Council, and Air. Bryden night be gone. Then how were they going to explain it 1 hey had a professional auditor and two 1 hey had a professional auditor and two elective auditors and the Mayor's auditor, and that busivess was not foupd out until the committee meeting on the ICth Sep-i tember. Thev knew Mr. Bryden said hi." I knew of it, and yet he did not briug it forward until he was drawn and censured by the Mavor and other members of the. Council w The Mayor—No. I did not censure. Captain Doughton said the Mayor ex- plained to Mr. Brvden that when he knew about that;, deficiency he should have re- ported to the. Council. It was his duty to do so, instead of allowing the abstract to be made out. He (Captain Doughton) be made out. He (Captain Doughton) would not touch much upon that, but leave it the"e; but he objected to the abstract being presented to the public and Is. charged for it, especially when it was not a correct statement. He did not mean to flay that Mr. Bryden was accountable for that deficiency, but he should have reported it when he knew about it. The Mayor would recollect that he spoke very strongly about it. The Mayer—-Oh, yes. Ciptain Doughton—And so did Mr. AVill'ams. c'la'-man of the committee. Alderman -NVililtmq-T take it that the correction win be made before the abstract is distributed Mr. LlewelHn thought they could not alter the abstrart without altering the account. The item might appear in the I next account. Alderman AATilliams said there did not l appear to be any secrecy about it. They ■ did not want anyone to he blamed, except those who were responsible. There was a danger of putting things before the public in that way. Captain Doughton—My dear sir, it is all [ over the town. Alderman AVillin--ns--I,nnie(liately it was I found out the aeco-mts with regard to the chairs on the beach and the collections were thoroughly gone into, and before the meeting of the Finance Committee the money was paid in. Captain Doti (,;I ton--ft was not paid in, I wiIV swear. It is no good trying to smcoth it over. Alderman Wi?liams—I am not. I am as plain as you are. Captain Doughton—There is a talk of hiding things. (Cries of "Order.") Alderman Williams—Captain Doughton is not the only upright man in the Coun- cil. We are charged with hiding things. I never did, and I never tolerate it. The information before the Committee was that the £ 4 had been paid in. Captnm Doughton—I deny that. No- body used that expression. The Mayor—T undcr.tood Morgan to say that he had paid in. Captain Doughton—No that he would be responsible. Alderman AA'illiams said that was the im- I be responsible. pression made upon the Committee, and that was the information given. There was straight talk to Mr. Mcrgan. There had been confusion in the office, and it could not be found out whether it had been paid in or not. He (Alderman AViliiams) j was far from hiding anything, and he was far from hiding anything, and he entered his strong prote-t against inueudoes ¡ or attempts of any member to mislead the public. The Mayor and other members spoke strongly, and it was explained that owing to the condition of things at the time it was possible for the thing to be overlooked, and Mr. Bryden was told that when he found anything out he was to re_ port it. He (Alderman AA'illiams) proposed that a slip should bo inserted in the abstract making the matter clear. As to the charge of Is. for the abstract, the abstract cost Is. 4d. each. Captain Doughton. agreed with the in- sertion cf the slip in the abstract, and the report of the Finance Committee was adopted. Alderman A\ ilRams reported with regard to ground rents that on tho 31st March, J914. the arrears of ground rents were £ 1,350 2<4. 7d.. and the ha^if-year's rent due May 12th, 16s. lOd.. or a total of £2,811 19s. 5d. Up to the 3rd of October th<" Collector had collected £ 1,844 6s. lid., bringing down the arrears to £ 867 12s. 6d. That was one of the best half-year's collection that had been ex- perienced for many years. AY hen Mr. Morgan was appointed in 1912 the arrears cu the 12;11 May made a total of £ 1.640 Tfrs. 5] Th-oy bad only to appeal to Air. Morgan to be diligent and do all he could to get in the arrears and they would soon n ev IN- 0 be wiped off. • Had it not been for theun_ fortunate war. it would have been a record collection, and mapveV was that ?o mucli had been paid. When thev had people paying that large amount it r.howed great anxiety to pay. He believed that every person on the list of ground rnts hat] paid. with the exception of about two Per cent. There, were aberiit- 600 on the list; and they had all paid with exception of about twelve. He tbotight I the Collector had done his best in the eiroumstancps in getting in a la.*ger sum than had hen got in for many years, so that shortly the borough fund w<ifh] be in the state it ought to be. The rates also, he undcrstool, had been paid exceed- ingly well, and the arrears wouxl be ?om_ parntivelv small. The collectors were do- ing all they could to receive any amounts the rate-p&yeis could Day. With regard to ground rent arrears he had teased to after falsehoods to correct, them. The day he was told that the arrears were over £ 4,C30. lie did not say any- tnmg, hut left the person who made the statement. The actual arrears were J3967. In reply to Air. David Davies. Alderman AA'illiams said that interest was charged oil ground rents in oases where leases were not I up, but it was necessary to h¿:Ye a •esolution of the Council before interest could be charged. Mr. John Evans said he asked some time ago how many leases it-ei-e. not taken up, and should like to have a report. Captain Doughton said he should like to know- -as Mr WiUiams had not explained I het- the on thelst March, 1914. were arrears for the previous &ix months, or were they a-rears going bade for a number of years? If the arrears had been accumulating for a number of years, it was high time that they should be got in. What he proposed was that a. list of all Üî arrear above six months should be laid on the Council table. That settle all' nimoms about £ 4,000 arrears, and if anybody asked the ques- tion councillo-s could give an answer. Alderman Williams replied that the hr-dges and accounts would show what arrears wore outstanding on the 31s t Alarch. Captain Doughton thought if any rate- payer wnntc-d to see the ledgers and accounts the Borough Accountant would not show them. AVith all those rumours about councillors ought to be able to say how much the arrears were and how long they had been outstanding. They misled themselves and the public many a time. Let them have a list of all the arrears. Alderman Williams replied that membrs should read their agendas. On the agenda for the 15th Septcmbor there was a state- ment which showed exactly how things stood. The statement showed that the total a l rears up to May. 1914, was £ 2.8U 10s. beL. all(I if the amount collected Bl,428 16s. 3d. AVhat did the public want more, than that? •V long list of persons in arrear was handed to the Town Clerk this year for collection, but action was postponed be- cause of the war. Captain Doughton—But who are they who owe the arrears, and how lbng have the arrears been outstanding? Mr. Llewellin said a list of all in arrear for over twelve months had been laid be- fore the Finance Committee. He thought the presentation to the Committee of a list of those owing the P,967 would meet Capt. Doughton. Air. Barclay Jenkins thought the rate- payers would be satisfied if they saw that every effort was being made by the Council to get in the arrears. It was no business of theirs to know who had not paid, but it was their business to see that efforts were made to get the arrears in. He was not sweet, on knowing people's secrets and whether they were unable to pay and that they owed so much. His business was to see that efforts were being made by the officials to <?et the money in. Captain Doughton rose again to speak, but the Mayor said he conld not allow him to to every speech. Air Samuel agreed with Capt. Doughton that the Coiincil should know who were in .ir--e,ir and had been in arrear for years. Capt Doughton said he was not anxious to know who they are. Mr. Samuel said fln the previous agenda the arrears were stated at t2,811, and he thought the Collector had done well to reduce them to under £1,000. There were, however, a few people whose arrears had been running for years. They paid on account, and it could not be said how long the arrears had lwen running. But the actual arrears u-) f-i March. 1914, were £ 1.350 2s. 7d. Having reduced the arrears to below £ 1,000. the Collector should be congratulated. There were, how. ever, a few who had been in arrear for years, and be was with Captain Doughton in thinking they should be dealt with, and then the accounts would be clear. The discussion then ended, and the Finance Committee's report was adopted. PUBLIC LIGHTS COMMITTEE'S REPORT. The Public Lights Committee recom- mended that, if the lighting companies were prepared to make reasonable reduc- tion in their charges, that from October 1st to December 31st, 1914. all lamps (except pilot lamps) shall be extinguished at 10.30 and that alternate lamps only on the new- Promenade and Marine-terrace shall be lighted. Air Barclay Jenk-ns said the extinguish- ing of the public lights at 10-30 commenced on the 1st October with the view of reduc. ing: the cost of public hdltillg during the winter months. He believed in time the Committee would be in a position to do still better. The two lighting companies were willing to do all in their power to reduce the cost, and they agreed to the extin- guishing of the lights at 10-30 instead of at eleven o'clock, but the Electric Light Company explained that +hey could "ot light the Terrace lamps alternately. The Company was not yet in a position to say what would be the reduction by extinguish- ing at H)-30. but the Gas Company pre- pa-erf to allow a reduction of JS12 lCs. Air. Samuel objected to going back in | the matter of lighting to the position of a- small village all the year round; but Mr Barclay Jenkins said the lights would be extinguished at that hour during the ) winter months only. Air.. Samuel/ then | thought that £ 12 10s. was an inadequate allowance, and Air. Llewellin asked what was the charge for extension of lighting during the A.M.C. week. The report was adopted, the matter of reduction of charge being left for arrange, ment. TENDERS, Etc. Two tenders were received for building site on Penglaise-road and Ave re referred to the Finance Committee for considera- I tion. One tender was by Air. J. Evans, Green Gardens Cottage, and the other by Air. James Daniel, plasterer, at zEl ground rent and L3 respectively. Three or four tenders were received for nftermath and winter run of PIas Crug Meadows, and acceptance was deferred as the meadows might be wanted for recruit training. The Council then went into committee.



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