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MONDAY. In the House ot Lords on Monday, motion was made to go ;n*o committee on The Tithe Bill. ;rd BBASOCiVsa complained of the mannerm tne b,i, i bad been Lurried through itasecona rea-i.ng, ana entered upon a discussion of the merits of the measure. The Government, he said, nAd leelllei that the tithes were not excessive, fcaai iLiQ landowners had made a good bargaiu out of tne eonunusatiou, and then met the distress of the a^i'ic^lcurwii aud the complaints of the tithe- payexs ny the rovel and sincular device of increasing th, ^urity of the tithecwners. He wonld advise the clergy not to rest their case so much r.a ai y appe-d to ecclesiastical writings as upon tijs iaw of commutation. The bill only Moght :o stereotype the injustice of the present ■yotem, and he warned the Government that it Would not pro-e a success. The M-.rq iis > f ALISBURY said the noble lord bad sy ken' of the ad vantage given by the Tithe Commutation Act in conferring; a parliamentary isile. out he (Lard Salisbury) was not <&* certain û: -uat advantage, inasmuch as b arag kaprescriptioti of 1,000 years as superior to any such title. If the aotla 1 .i leant to propose that the p-vyment to tu-5 C'e; ,y should be thrown on the general taxs. ihat would make any Chancellor of the Exchequer "ptn his eyes, aud would hardly be i.keiy to mees -Ih geueral acceptance. The unsasure was designed to relieve the tit-heowuer and the farmer ;i n; existing grievances, which were that the tithe vner bad to recover his tithes from oersons >vh > d;,j not oweir, while the farmer Was suojeetM t, -.n inconvenient process the toioreemeat ')f -.vli,(;i,. led to discord and exaspera- iicu Moreover, farmer now ha.d to bear the brci.. the payment at. a time he could least afford 1: and it ~v s enforced where necessary by a meth d so at was singularly calculated to exate ooouiar tr.-nng and produce d'tiicuittes. At the present th.: anti-tithe agitation going on \V&»es jbii i tii'2 -'Utrli of liU(?Iand had induced amii> ( f til's cie;2x" to ask the Government to enable diem t-> bra-u their tithes otherwise than by tne present tVa^ai of distraint, and their lord- tbios might if e chat there was a political danger m allowing i continuance of the existing state ot thing-, because it might engender a fermentation of feeuns. that weald possibly cause much future embarrassment. He denied tiiat any injustice w ,uld arise iroro th • working of the bill, because a., it was the Ici^.Q .inly that was liable to tithe, tthea r. might weld no profit, no payment would be reqo.; -ad under vH* measure. The appeal to the ccui. y-couri. i^ --ad of ithe present resort to oul.' I leniove a fruitful source of exas- an though the bill only dealt with the {r:„ga ,.f a, I«,vge subject, he denied that because tut., uoaiu questmu was beyond their rtfach they ougbv net to t. v "tid solve the smaller difficulties. The House "then went into committee on the b;.i, and after SHk discussion, clauses 1 and 2 we i agreed to with amendments. On clause 5 XneEari of 61ci moved anamendmen", intended to aiiow t: e attachment of the occupier's rent t.> meet arrears oc tithe overdue tor more than three m.nCl¡: Tha AI.»rq uis of Saussckt declined to accept tha ^uiaodment, br after a discussion, on the Lord C.ance.'it.r's, recommendation, agreed to its inser.ion, a.id >vas adopted. The other cla sses were then dealt with and agreed to. >vlu. sundry amendments and addi tion. ;¡si she c: i parsed through committee. Alleged Scarcity of Small Corns. In the H.o'.»se _Ii C»mm<)iif, T ie Cha-Ncsllo?. •: the ExcHXQUia:, ill reply to Mr ildw*-d ie, entered into a long state- ment in r<sience the alleged deficiency in e amo.:at oi smail silver com in circulation, I issue of tueso ;oi:is would be largely increased •e public d'jia^nded them, and employers of and other* requiring change would insist their bankers supplying- toe coins required, iditi'^nal troubia of sorting the smaller coins beiug made up with an undue pro- of the large coins. There was no reason ^is should te, uecause there was an ample "ly of snillir.gs aud sixpences ready to be -ued from the Mn through the Bank of Eng- ltd. -A-»y baukar could obtain a supply from p. Pmk ot Ki-xlaud,where there I" now a stock of jjfifct.JGG in sLi..hugs and £ 10,900 in sixpences. 'in* subLc had the remedy in their own bands, 6.>r ilLs: mniion st:iiun^ pieces and. more than one- aad-a- half milli >n xpences WfJra teady for issue were aske^ u-r. J The T ..6 War iii Wales. }\1\r HciBAiD .1-kt.d the ITirst Lord of the T jftwawirv wi.at.■< ia view of the renewed agitation i*Wa!> agaiust r. ie recovery of the tithe-rent I W»<>rgc, md or l ie violent resistance opposed to ofticiai, iii'hing the r lawful duty by bands of JIWtl Cr -(i iirecled bythe" Atiti-Tithe I^»g ;s," tit" ,■-i.uiiwut would issue pro- tlaua. itrm in \Vc»sii aud English declaring the «hty ji ■sLess. i nnuituous proceedings, and v. viid iiso direct pr isecutions to be instituted a4.a:-t the leaders ot >his criminal conspiracy. • ir T. HiALT, riff rig to order, inquired whether theHonse a a;. iw a question to appear on jt. records -which ;*cAiine<i that the agitation in V>'aJt«5 was ci°nmi.al conspiracy. Thd iitriSAKJSK I think the assumption ought tl-A tat i'ao :n question. 35«fcjm'H s^id lie would omit all reference to the ctUiraciT "i the agitation, i-ie was very glad :0 say that ae was ia irmopd that the agitation was tuog^dia?, au" thar tÜ,) inhabitants of the princi- »ere tfginn.? to see the necessity of I vO^p yiDK w ) the i xisting law. Tha t and Intermediate education. Mr CoaN^VALLl^ VV KST asked the First Lord of I MlXtreasury vvhf:' her Majesty's Government « prepared to octet: ^iie same measure of assist- T»-oVVaies aa wa.i 41vfen for educational pur- tu Scotland and Ireland by an annual grant >-ey for lut^rmediate education, including i#ig colleges tir tsachers, in the event of a eaiiug W.tl1 tiiis subject, and commanding NWlrlOl support of Welsh representatives, Mibtmtteii to Parliament. IOM=H said tin university colleges in Wales *1 an a a una! zr. it amounting to L12,000 a afc- 'ist £ 16 C0v paid to the Scotch uuiver iii training colleges. While her Majesty's Lmenu recognised the importance of this th«? Government were not prepared, for xe.ijjoiis, to make a statement as to the and amount of financial assistance that iioo.ed for iroui the State in the event of being b: ~>ught forward. Snipntting at Pembroke. .iied the First Lord of the ity wuetuer ue had yet had time' to and dec.de upon the estimate for \eers at Pembroke which was offi- ce Admiralty on the 31st March; .f the small sum for which a shears" could be one". he still intended which must to some ag the Aurora and Nile to m their engines, and whether it at one port to be engined ter caused delay in their com- ent additional expense to the (iLTOS: It has been decided rs at Pembroke at present, rrangements can be made tor rines and boilers of the ke, and that it will y to send the Aurora Her of economy, the ia no In the cost as between vessels to another yard before they led till the stag. at which they can have n board. 'beral Member. t. ,k the oath and his seat on a St. Au-jtell Division of Corn- -,nibt-r, wfco was introduced by all i. M^Braadhurst, was wet- .P Opposition fazeers. he Goeqpion till. £ SMITH made a le^ETBY general to the remaining amendueats to the and a;,i the Government proposed "lag. Ru«ell's amendment t*, leave tion whicti brought within the ci«1S0 lishabi* under the Whiteboy Act*, cved to themselves the right to > question on the report with the c, :ifyinsr, if it should be thought particui Jir offences at present included Wh.teooy Ar:t:s which it might be desir. ^bring mdef cbe operation of the bill. UabctM mo «id the addition of a proviso the f which while allowing boycotting niiucr oxleo'-oa to be tried by resident <w aider sammary jurisdiction, to u mOlh serious offences, such as conspi- Jd b8 tried ii a superior court. OltJS r IITAL for IRELAND opposed. £ [' SMir'v took the opportunity of at th« wor'' down to '« violence or in In. ?bo stand part of the bill. "I. liüLf wanted to know whether it ,.t.ent in ilie middle of a speech to nuve JM*AN' said that the member for Cork .Wl his sea: wen the First Lord of the Mr J. iTsiUTH: I move that the question be Yhat a division was once tak«n, ^3 the motion was c trried by 231 votes to 125— fommitcee hen divided on the amend- Ant frl"iich was r»*j»vted by 217 to 126. IV H. SMITH then moved that the words t>«ioifl?»ce," oe n >w put. Tb* comn^ttee • »»»" W- H. Smith a xetio.L was earns* ->v 2.2 to 122, majority 90. 4 division .1 taken upon the question "^bat the words hould stand part of the clause, an-! that was c.r "Id by 190 to 46, thus disposing ei ^he first t?u a iJments. it „ Mi-M. roposed to substitute tnreats w intimidate r A. J. BAk jra sa d the GoTernment couid T vt 'ispetn^e wr.t any of the acts included in the jord intimidat->nd felt, therefore, bound "7 to re^ thu air.rit :ion. )01: J:. >1 HI. T IR ited that the amendment a-«i £ to be press d in is the Government iutro- ,>nie c!e-. deh ition of intimidation. It had used to imprison men for stopping v over a farm. None but fools would of apply^^ t0 such a trivial ^nce called upon tho bon* ™emhtt '.he (hiV«y of the^™m^te?'.a £ s, tSl h r-oken 1in -nce of the 3t jjnM th^t no <*oosrJe*» meu.be i ? inoconcea- vAifc re^r^e'' :,at since the last division the whole of the tune of the com- mittee had been wasted in irrelevant discussions. The word" intimidatiou" f as perfectly intel- ligible, and the Government intended to insist upon its retention. Mr DILLON held that if the clause were adopted in its present form, it would put a.n end toall civilized evidence in Ireland. On a division, the aui.indmeut was rejected by 163 to 111. Mr T. M. HEALY (at 12 past 12 o'clock) moved that progress should be reported. Mr W. H. SMITH said it was imperative that some substantial progress should be. made. kle thought it not unreasonable to ask tt>e committee to pasq the second clause before abiouriirig. Mr T. P. O'CONNOR submitted thfr*- substantial progress had been made. (01), oh.) Mr T. M. HEALT suggested that the House should meet on Tuesday at the wsual time. Mr JOH>T MORLEY auggastcd that the Govern- ment should assent to reIPprtmg progress, as it was a physical impossibiSty to get through the clause that night. n Mr W. H. SMITH was sorry not to be able to accede to the suggebtiOn of the member for New- ça.tlc. d" Mr LABouclijoez spoke to an understanding with one ot the Government whips that progress should be reported at half-past twelve to enable various questions to be raised on the motion for adjouTflxuent. Mr T. M. HEALY said in that case the good {»ith of the Government wi,t involved. Mr W. H. SMITH was willoig to bs bound only by the engagements made by himself in the House, and he had made it a. condition of moving the adjournment for the recess that the clause should be disposed of at that sitting. (Cheers.) The committee divided, and the motion for adjournment was negatived by 263 votes to 137.

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