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ACTION FOR LIBEL AGAINST MR…
ACTION FOR LIBEL AGAINST MR W. A. DARBISHIRE. PROCEEDINGS IN THE POLICE COURT. I The application by Mr Sorton-Parry for a criminal information for libel against Mr Darbi- shire was made at the ordinary borough petty sessions on Monday. The small court-room was crowded. Mr Allanson,accompanied by Mr Sorton- crowded. Mr Allanson,accompanied by Mr Sorton- Parry and Mr G. Pugh, his election agent, was the first to arrive, and was soon followed by Mr W. A. D-rbishire, with whom were Mr J Roberts, solici- tor, Bangor, and Mr R. D. Williams, the general bcretary of the Liberal Association. The magis- trates on the bench were the mayor (Alderman Rees), Captain Owen Thomas, Mr Lewis Lewis, and Dr John Williams. Mr Hugh Pugh was also on the bench, but he explained that he took no part in the proceedings, as he might be called as a witness, being one of the deputation which had waited upon Mr Sorton-Parry. The composition the oench was, therefore, equally balanced politically, the mayor and Captain Owen Thomas being Conservatives, whilst Mr Lewis and Dr John WiLiams belong to the opposite school of pol.tics. Mr Allanson said that he appeared to make a merely formal application, which, as a general iule was not made in open court-to ask for the issue of a summons upon a criminal information for libel, which would presently be laid before the bench and be down in writing by their clerk It would be necessary that he should ex- pS'.t the out^ how be made ill open court, anil alter calling attention to the law^bearing upon the « to the bench that the, had no issue the summons. TheaiV1" K iu formation for libel was imde on -ehaU of Mr Robert Sorton-Parry, who W.w he trates for the county of Merioneth, was some time ago the high-sheriff of Carnarvonshire, and was now one of the candidates for the representation in Parliament of the Carnarvon Boroughs. The application, however, had nothing whatever to do with the election, qui the election, but was against Mr W. A. Darbishire for a malicious libel, which they said had been written, published, and circulated, concerning Mr Sorton- Parry and in respect of which it was asked that a summons should be granted upon a criminal in- formation under Victoria 6 and 7, sec. 5. Under the section of that act, it was not open for the defendaut, as laid down by the ruling in The 1 Queen v Carden," to say anything in defence or justification it was only necessary to prove that the libe. had been written and published by ium. The circumstances under which the application came openly before the court were as follow On March 12, Mr Sorton-Parry received a letter written by Mr Darbishire, which contained the following statement:—"I wish to say that what you have stated is an absolute and unmitigated falsehood." That letter was published in exienso, as an avertisement, in a newspaper, and further publicity was given to it by yellow placards, which ¡ were posted all about the town, and which did not I bear the printer's imprint. Mr Sorton-Parry had therefore deemed it his duty—and he did so with c gi-eat deal of regret—to protect his character from the aspersion which had thus been cast upon it, and on the first day after the receipt of Mr Davbisnire's letter he called upon the speaker to ascertain his opinion on the matter. He was from home, attending Portmadoc County Court, but on the following day, accompanied by Mr Sorton- Parry, he appeared before the mayor and la'd the information. The mayor, being the returning officer for the boroughs, acted with wisdom and discretion, and declined to sign the mmmons asked for, thinking it was a matter to come before the court, so that the court and net an individual mtgiptrate might take upon himself the respon- sibility of the summons. He (the mayor), therefore, direct, d that the application should that day be made in open court. No evidehce would be tak-'n, aud all that iiau to be dene that day would be to put in the letter which Mr Sorton-Parry wcu!d say he received from Mr W. A. Daroishire, by whom te believed it to be written, and the j court would then decide whether, in its opinion, there was sufficient in the language of that letter to constitute a libfl. The only question, there- fore, before the court was whether there was a prima facie case that the letter was libellous. Had the words constituting the alleged libel been used by themselves it might have been a less serious matter, but there was sending the letter for publication, and issuing placards containing such a charge against Mr Sorton-Parry, who was an honourable man, but who, if what was trus that was said about him in that letter, was not fit to associate with respectable company, much less to have the honour of a seat in the House of Com- mons, seeing that his reputation and character had been ibjured by the charge that he had been guilty of direct and absolute falsehood. The time might come, loop fter the election bad passed over, when the placaids and letter might fall into the hands of people eisewtu re, and what would be thought of Mr Sorton-Parry if it was not shown that he had at' empted to contradict the statements m;ide therein ? The charge might be raked up against hi n akau and again After quoting sev- eral judgments as to what constituted a malicious libel, Mí Allausof said that the summonsmust issue, but having regard to the gravity of the charge— the information being criminal, and laying the defendant: open to fine and imprisonmolt--he was willing that ev ry opportunity should be given to him to cousult his legal advisers, and that the hearing of the summons should be fixed on a day convenient to Mr Darbishire. He (Mr Allanson) contended that the application could not be mixed up with pontics; it had nothing to do with tole election, but was a personal matter between Mr Darbishire, who had lost his temper and maligned the reputation and character of Mr SarLon. Parry. I He suggested that the summons should be return- able on Thursday, otherwise it must come before the magistrates in ordinary form at the weekly sessions on the following Monday. Mr Sorton- Parry regretted the necessity of taking these pro- ceedings; but why should the letter h^ve beeu advertised and placarded about the town, with the. knowledge that it would be humiliatiug and galling to Mr Sorton-Parry aiid hir; frietids ? When it was found, as it must have been, t) be hurting the feelings of Mr Sorton-Parry and his friends, why were not thoa-3 placards at once torn down, and the mistake which had been made in the. matter set flgb t:- The letter and placards were then put in, the information for libel being baaed upon the following words'—"I feel it my duty therefore to give your statement a most unqualified denial. I with to say that what you have stated is an Absolute and unmitigated falsehood. P.8 — I shall send a copy of this leter for publication." Air John Roberts said that he appeared on be- half of Mr Darbishire, but his mouth was closed, the application fer the summons being made ex- parte, so that be had no locus stzndi at present. If the bench decided upon granting the summons he should like to be h ard as to the day upon which it should be made returnable. The magistrates, after a brief consultation with their clerk (Mr C. A. Jones) said that the summons as asked for would issue. The mayor wished to state that what had ap- peared in two or three newrp^pers as to what occurred when the application for the summons was made to him was not quite correct. It had been said that he refused to grant the summons because he was a Conservative. In justice t) Mr Sorton- Parry, he was bound to say that there was nothing said about his being a Conservative. Mr Sorton-Parry said that he desired to thank his worship for the explanation. A certain section of the press, for some reason Mr J. Roberts (u.teLUptlug) said that Mr Sor- ton-Parry had no right to make any speeches in that court. He applied, now that the summons had been granted, that it should not be made re- turnable until after the election. 1 he matter, notwithstanding what Mr Allanson had stated, it must be obvious to every one's mind, clearly rose out of the election. Mr Darbishire was the presi- dent of the Liberal Association, and he would of course be very much ergaged until the election had c.'ine to an end, and the like remark applied t? himself. If, as Mr Allanson argued, this was merely a personal matter between the parties, there could be no reason whatever why it should be pressed oa at once. Even assuming that upon the hearing of the summons the case went to the length of a committal to the assizes, the case could not come on for hearing until July. If the case was now gone iuto it would only increase the turmoil aud excitement inseparable from an election. Mr Allanson applied that the summons should be returnable on Monday, which was the ordinary day. Why should there be any exception made because Mr Darbishire happened to be the defen- dant? If it suited Mr Darbishire the case might be taken on Thursday. It was after all a very emall matter. Mr J. Robeits said that Mr Allauson spoke with two voices; at one time representing that the charge was exceedingly grave and important, and at another that it was a mere nothing (laughter). The court must see that its process was not in any way abused, and he had never known of a case in which such an objection was raised when the application was made by the defendant. Uere was an election coming on, and they found one can- didate taking out a summons against the chairman of his opponent's committee, which in itself raised the strong presumption and suspicion that this was merely an expedient to bring one of the can- didates into notice and notoriety. If there was no ulterior purpose in view, why force on the matter before the election ? He urged the expediency of deferring the hearing until after the heat of the election l-t it it was desired to bring into notor- iety one of the candidates, and so excite a feeling on his behalf, it was easily understood the why matter should be pressed on Tritu bj much haste. Mr Allanson asked whether it was right that the other aide should be permitted to continue thb libel, and preased that the case should be heard without unnecessary delay. After further discussion, the Mayor announced that the hearing of the summons would come on at the next ordinary petty sessions, on Monday. Mr Allanson remarking that his client reserved all right of prosecuting other persons publishing the libel, Mr J. Roberts said that he was quite welcome to do so, and the p A, ties then left the court, no dis* play of feeling being exhibited by either side. NO ill NATION DAY. The nomination took place on Wednesday, at the Guild Hall, Carnarvon, befoie the mayor. Mr Thomas L"Ve Duncombe Jones-Parry was proposed with three different nomination papers. The first contained the names of William Hughes, solicitor, Conway, and Thomas Bugbiid, Carnar- von, es proposers, and it was signed by the follow- ing gentlemen :—Oweri Edwards, Penlar.- street, Pwllheli; Robert Jones, backer, do.; John Ro- berts. Victoria-square, Nevin William Thomas, Bodlondeb, Morfa Nevin; Williasi Griffith Thomas, The Mooring-1, Carnarvon; n, Bodreiuallt, Conway; Owen Owen Roberts, 1, Thomas-street, Carnarvon, Robert. Jones, 3, Turf-square, do.: John Smith Kirk, Or- chard House, :do. Johu Williams, Glan:Seiont, do. The |t r posers on the second paper were Thomas Finchet Maddocks and George Far^e^, T- -,nai, and it was signed by Lewis Lewis (ex. mayor of Carnarvon), Evan Joues, 4 Castle-square, Carnarvon; John 2, Bridge-street, do. Rd. Griffith, Bangor-street, do. M. Davies, Uxbridge House, do. John R. Piitchard, Bryu Eisteddfod, eto; John Davies, Bodgwyue^d, d, Watkin Williams, Segontium-terrace, do.; O. Davies, 15, Thomas-street,do.; Owen Roberta. liryuhendre,do. The third paper contained the names of Mr Hugh Pugh and John Roberts, Dryn Adda,as noninators, and.it was signed by Morgan Beyigor; John Jones, 2, Bridge-street, Canv-m' -n; Thomas Fiuchet Ua<Jdo( ks, Cae Orwyn, d G.Farien, do. G. B. Thomas, do.; John Jo;,es, 1, New- street, do. John Davies, Bodgwyuedd, do. I Cornelius Davies, Ty Fry, do. W. P. Williams, Turf-square, do. Thomas Hughes, 16, Pool-street, do.; Hugh Pritchard, 1, Rowland-street, do. Mr Robert Sorton-Parry wis proposed with two^nomination papers. In the first he was proposed by Messrs D. Williams, Bluta-road; aiu' H. Owen, 2, Edward street, tailor, and it contained 'the names of Saiauol Dorkins, Car- narvon William Hughes, 22, UX'rid.;e-strect, do. J. Jone^, Û Hcndre-stieet, labourer, do. Jos. Brown, 'Moriah-squije, do., tailor; Wm. Pritchard, 13, Baptist-itreet, do. R. Tritehard, Castle-ditch, do., shueu; iker; Hugh Jones, South Pea'rallt. On the second nomination paper were the names of Messrs Wm. Hugh Owen, auctioneer, and William Mackie, Cnecietb, as proposers, and it w?s signed also by William Jones, baker, 16, Palace-street, Carnaivon; Robert Lee Ellis, Castle Hotel, do. John Foulkes, cleik at the Herald office, 11, Segon tium-terrace, do.; D. T Edwards, Drum Tavern, do.; Owen Jones, 8 Pool street, do.; John Roberts, Bryntirion, C >nstautine-road, do. John W. Owen, 12, Northgdcbtreet, do. Wm. Bodill/, printer, Herald office.
WHO BROUGHT MR Su]ffl )-p…
WHO BROUGHT MR Su]ffl )-p ARUY OUT? INKS OF COURT HOTEL, March 23rd, 1882. DEAit SIR,-I am obliged by your telegram calling my attention to the report in the Liverpool Mercury of Mr Sorton-Parry's meeting last night .t the Guild lIaIl, Car- narvon. I knew nothing of Mr R..Sorton-Parry's candidature in ISM) until the day he arrived at Bangor. To the best of my resoliection I was told of it at the County Court, which was held at the Rechabite Hall, adjoining the British Hotel, Bangor, 011 that day. I imuie iiately told my informant that I considered Mr So. ton-Parry a totally unfit candidate, I also iiuoruied him. of some matters connected with ihat gentleman which had come professionally to my know- ledge, and some other matters that were well- known in the legal profession in the county, but not to my informant, who was considerably astonished at the information. I at first declined to meet Mr Sorton-Parry, but as the British Hotel was next door, and I moreover had occasion to go there for lunch, I ¡' went there later on, and saw him in tile coffee- room. T-told him that I considered he had not the slightest chance of being returned, and ab- solutely declined to have anything to do with his Address, or that I even countenanced his candidature in any way; on the contrary, I ¡ have always considered the idea of his being a candidate for the boroughs preposterous, and have never concealed this opinion. I never corrected, or even saw the manuscript of his address, or knew anything of it till I saw it in the public newspapers. He subsequently called at my office and asked me to look through the draft of his re- tiring address, I declined to do so. He then said that he wished me to do so professonally. I still refused, stating that a retiring election address was not a professional matter, but sim- ply a matter for his own personal taste. Ha, however, insisted on reading it to me. After he had done so, I said I saw nothing objection- able in it except the intimation in the concluding portion that he intended to come forward and fight against all comers at the next vacancy. I.told him in the most distinct and unequivocal terms that Iconsideredhe hadno claim whatever on the boroughs nor the sligh test chance of success. lIe called at my office again a few months ago (about the time Mr Bulkeley Hughes was taken ill), and introduced Mrs Sorton-Parry to me- I then repeated in very decided terms my views as to his intended candidature. He pressed me to accept a retainer, which I doclmed, saying I would sup- port the candidate selected by the Liberal Association. He then pressed me to support his name at the Liberal Association. This I also declined to do.—Yours faithfully, (Signed) J. ROBERTS. B. D. Williams, Esq., Mr Jones-Parry's Committee Rooms, Bridge-street, Carnarvon.
INNS OF COURT HOTEL, LLUNDAIN,
[CYFIEITllIAl). J INNS OF COURT HOTEL, LLUNDAIN, Mawrth 23ain, 1882. ANWYL SYR,—Diolch i chwi am eich telegram yn galw fy sylw at yr adroddiad yn y Liverpool Mercury o gyfarfod Mr Sorton-Parry a gyn- haliwyd neithiwr yn y Guild Hall, Caernarfon. Nid oeddwn i yn gwybod dim am ymgeisiaetn Mr Sorton-Parry yn 1880.hyd ydyddycyr- haeddodd i Fangor. Mor bell ag yr wyf fi yn cofio, dywedwya wrthyf am ei ymgeisiaeth yn y County Court, agynhelid yn y Rechabit« Hall, yn ymyl y British Hotel, Bangor, ar y diwrnoa hwnw. Dywedais yn ddioed wrth fy hysbysyaa fy mod yn yatyried Mr Sorton-Parry yn ym- geisydd hollol anghymhwys. Hysby«ais ef/ie ya o rai materion cysylltiedig a'r boneddwr hwuw ag oedd wedi dyfoa i fy ngwybyddiaetn tei cyt- reithiwr, a rhai pethau ereill, ag oedaynt yn eithaf hysbys i'r legal profession yn y sir. Otid nid i fy hysbysydd, yr hwn oedd yn dra gynedig oherwydd y mynegiadau. Ar y cyntaf gomeddais gy^af*°^L Sorton- Parry, ond gan fod y British Hotel y drwi nesaf, a chenyf finau achos i fyned yno i gaol ymborth, aethym yno yn ddiweddarach a gwelais ef yn y coffee-room. I Dywedais wrtho fy mod yn ystyned nad oedd ganddo y siawns leiaf o gael ei ethol, a gwrth- odais yn bendant i wneyd dim a'i anerchiad, ac ni chefnogais ei ymgeisiaeth rnevni unrhyw fodd. I'r gwrthwyneb, 5 r wyf bob amser wedi ystyried y syniad o'i fod yn ymgeisydd am y bwrdeisdrefi yn ynfydrvrydd hollol, ac Di chelais y fain hono erioed. Ni chywirais erioed, nac hyd yn nod weled ei anerchiad mewu ysgrifen, ac ni wyddwn ddim am dano hyd nes ei gwelais ef ya y newyddiaduron. Ar ol byny galwodd yn fy swyddfa, a gofyn odd i mi edryoli drwy gopi o'i anerchiad enciiioi (retiring address). Gwrthodais wneyd hyny. Yna dywedodd ei fod yn dymuno i mi wneyd hyny fel cyfreithiwr. Parheais i wrthod, gau ddyweyd nad oedd anerchiad enciliol yn fater i gyfreithiwr, ond yn unig yn fater i'w farn bersonol ef al- Modd bynag, myn *"ei ddarllen i mi, wedi iddo wneyd hyny, dywedais nad oeddwn yn y gweled dim gwrthwynebus ynddo, oddieithr yr awgrymiad Yl1 y gyfran diweddaf ei fod yu bwriadu dyfod yn' mlaen ac ymladd yn erbyn pawb ddeuai allan yn yr etholiad nesaf. Dywedais wrtho yn y modd mwyaf eglur a digamsyniol, fy mod yn ystyried nad oedd C, ganddo ef unrhyw hawl ar y bwrdeisdrefi, na r siawns leiaf i lwyddo. Galwodd yn fy swyddfa drachefn rai misoedd yn ol (tua.'l' amser y cymerwyd Mr Bulkt-ley Hughes yn wael), a chyflwynodd i fy sylw Mrs Sortou-Parry. Ail-adroddais mewn geiriau pur bendant fy ngolygiadau o berthynas i'w ymgei: iaeth fwriadedig, a gwasgodd arnaf i sicrhau fy ngwasanaeth fel cyfreithiwr iddo, yr hyn a wrthodais, gau ddyweyd y byddai i mi gefnogi yr ymgeisydd a ddewisid gan y Gym- deithas Ryddfrydig. Yna gwasgodd arnaf i bleidio ei enw yn y Gymdeithas Ryddfrydig, hyn hefyd a wrthodais ei wneyd.—Yr eiddoch, yn ffyddlawn, (Arwyddwyd) JOHN ROBERTS. R. D. Williams, Ysw, Mr Jones-Parry's Committee Rooms, Caernarfon.
MR SORTON-FAhRY AND THE CARNARVON…
MR SORTON-FAhRY AND THE CAR- NARVON BOROUGHS. The following letter received by David Pugh, Esq., solicitor, Holywell, has been handed us for publication. Mr Sorton-Parry, it seems, was met always of opinion that the third great wish of his life was to represent his native borough of Carnarvon. May we ask if he is also a native of the county of Merioneth ? We think this letter does not require any comment on our part, as the language of Mr Sorton-Parry is too plain to require any ex- planation. We may, perhaps, mention that the writer of the letter is Mr Sorton-Parry's agent at this present election, and also his chief spokesman at public meetings, vide report of his meetings at Carnarvon, Bangor, &e. Per- haps 'Mr JSorton Parry will let us know if he has "an eye" on any other borough or county. 37, Lorimore-square, Walworth, London, S.E., January 24th, 1882. My old Friend, Mr David Pugh, How are you ? Quite well I hope, and fit and rearly for work. I have been asked by Mr Sorton-Parry, whom lhelieveyou know, to work with him in political matters. As you know, he has an eye on Merionethshire. I tell him there is no one can put him all right in that county better than you. He is very desirous of advising with you, and if you feel in- clined to age your services. It wo'nt do to leave this matter till the last moment, and then work away in the best way you can. Here it is said the life )f this Parliament is not worth six month's purchase. If I can, I want to see you soon Should be glad to have a line from you as to what you think of Mr Surton-Parry's candidature, and whether you will enlist under his banner Do vou ever come to London. I have been here most of my time for the last four months. After I hear from you we will enter more fully into this busings if it is to go on. —Yours very TRULY, EDWARD DAVIES, (Of Dolcaradog, Machynlleth).
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The following corrorpoiidccce has appeared in the Liverpool papers :— TO W. J. PARRY, ESQ., MAE3-Y- OROKa, BANGOR. Caellcnor, Carnarvon, March 23,18S2. DEAR SIB,—I learn that at a public meeting held yester- day evening at the Guild llan, Carnarvon. Mr Sorton- Parry read a telegram, dated March 8,1880, from you to him No doubt you have a recollection of the eircum- st inces uuder which that telegram was sent, and as my natne is a-sociatel with it, I shall be glad if you will state the whole circumstances at your earliest conveni- ence.—Yours faithfully, J- C.VAKS.
TO T "RVANS CABLtEJfOB, CARNARV…
TO T "RVANS CABLtEJfOB, CARNARV iT. ro J. KVAN8, C_ eSt Bangor, March 23,1882. Tiw m St ft Yours of tliisj date to hand. I well re- refyrio1 ■* number of influential I^berafelcct^rs 1 mr>stof whom are uowactive supporters of Mr j/v os-parrv in the present contest) were desirous of ^lectins an advanced Liberal to represent the Car- nL\ n I Lappened to call at your office HH<1 narvonBoioag y^,u then told mehavinc met Mr 8o?torpiry at K's^lisbury Club, and that'you had loarnUiis intention of oftermg himself as a candidate f >r the Carnarvon Boroughs at the then forthcom.n- sinoral election. At the time I knew nothing of Mr Sorton-Parry beyond the fact that he had been high- sherift' of Camarvons-bire in 1868, and that he had inter- I ested himself in the emigration ol the working classes. You gave nonrom se of support yourself, as yo stated that you felt m honour bound to support Mr Bulkeley Hushes, in ease he agai) i offe; ed himself. The telegram was then sent by me to Mr Sorton-Parry. On the following day two gentlemen and myself met him at Bangor, and after that interview we consult*: 1 a Bumberofprominettt Liberal electors, who expressed themselves unfavourable to Mr .Sorton-Parry us can- didate Tlii fet-ling was conveyed to him in a decided manner, aud 1had no further hand in his candidature Since MaTch. lbso, I have not seen him nor heard from him- At the present election when one of his agents called upon me and offered me a retainer, I declined having anything to do with Mr Sorton-Parry's can- didature. It is not correct, as stated in the reported speech, so far as I am concerned, that Mr riorton-Pariy has asked me to come forward and relieve him of the difficulty of naming rue." I have had no personal nor writ ten commuiueation from him since March, 1«S0.— Yooz-s faithfully, W. J. PARRY. lic^tion —W J y0U1 *ettcr an<^ my reply for pub-
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[CYFIEITHIA'J ] Ymidangosodd yr ohebiaeth gaulynol yn mhnpyrau dyddicl Lerpwl:- I w. J. PAKRY, YSW., MAES-Y-OBOES, BANGOR. Caellcnor, Caernarfon, Mawrth 23ain, 1882. Axw-SYR -YrwyfyndealliMrSorton-Pam',m cyfa fod cyhoeddus a gynhaliwyd yn y i n> ddarllen brysueges (telegram), ocf Mawrth rtfed, 1880, oddiwrthycli chwi ato pf. 0 amheuaeth nad ydycli yn atlgotio yr amgylop-1*}. nan ba rai yr an'onwyd y frysneges yna, a chat1 og enw l yn cael < i gysvUtu a hi, bydd yn fl,, v gwnewch fynegi yr noli amgylchiadau mor fu oyddo modd.—Yr eiddoch yn ffyddlawn, j EvANS_ X J. KVANS, CAELLENOR CAK^A^ j Maes-y-groes, Bangor, jttawr^-
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Maes-y-groes, Bangor, jttawr^- | ANWYT.I SYR,—Daeth yr eiddoch, ^vlr'hiadaii^ dan ilaw. Yr wyf yn cofio yn dda jr amgylcbiaaau o dan ba rai y cafodd y frysnoges y c^ iiX)norol i etholiad genyf fi i Mr Sorton-Parry. *n I^etnoiiad tffi.I bresenolj yn awyddus I ddewis Bhyaiat^uwr ppaHiRrtol I gynryobioii Bwrdeisdrefi Oacrnarton. yn eich swyddfa a chrybwyllais y ffaith yma. Y na dywcdasoch wrthyf i chwi g.vfarfod Mr S,)rton-Parry yn y Salisbury Club, ac 1 chwi ar ddt'all ei fod yn bwriadu cynyg ei hun fel ymgeisydd ami wr<L lsdrefi Caernarfon yn yr etholiad cyffredmol oedd y prydhwnw yn agosliv 1* Ar ty pryd ni wyddwn ddun am Mr Sorton-Parry yn mhellach na'r ffaith iddo fod yn uchel- .c £ n 1368- ac i,ido ddyddori ei bun s y oosbartliiadau gweithiol. Ni rodd- j Jdcwid o gefnogaeth eich hunan, gan I Vi -y l eJL'h bo(l teimlo yn rhwymedig mewa S-e^0si -?Ir >u'keley Hugh.s. os bydlt iddo k>nj a ei bun t-ilwaith. Yna anfonwyd y "^ys- Uf^rfgd > !d ?] ^nr,.v^rtnI1"1'fUTy Ar v CamFnoI t idrtj d 'Ond dau t,yta 1] a miuau ef yn Mangor, ac cu ol \r jiugjiar yddial hwnw ymgynghorasom a niter O etholw>r libydtUTydig blaenllaw. y rhai a ddadganasanti <su hiuiam yn -ntlamol i Mr Gorton-Parry fel ymgeis- ytni Irosglwyddwya y teunlad hwn iddo ef m< wa moid pendant, ac m bu -<'nyf law yn mhellach yn M ymgejsiaeth. Er Mawrth, 1880, uid wyf ,.v,,Ii ei wchd na chlywed oddwrtho. Yn yr etholiad presenol, pan ahvodd un o'i oruchwylwr utnat ac y cyuygio d i lm swydd yn ei vmgeisiaeth. gwrtho iaisgymorydun rhan o gwbl yn Vmgeisiaeth Mr H-parry. IN it yw yn gywir, fel y tnynegir yn j i araeth gytioeddcdig. mor bell ag y mac a fyno a mi foil Mr Sorton-iarry wedi gofyn i mi '• ddyfod yn mlaen, a'l ryddhau ef o'r anhawsder o'm hecwi i Ni bu ddim o gwbl rhyngwyf ago of, yn bersonol na thrwy ohooiaeth, er Mawrth. 1880.—Yr eiddoch yn ify td awn, t, -vr w. J. PAJUY. V-*•—Anfonaf eich llythyr, a'm hatebiad inau. i'w cynoeddi—W. J. P.
CARNARVON BOROUGHS ELECTION.
CARNARVON BOROUGHS ELECTION. THE CLAIMS OF THE RIVAL CANDI- DATES. TO THE EDITOR OF TKE "NORTH WALES EXrREbK." The electors ot the several boroughs of Career- von are now disturbed by the claims of the two candidates for the honour of representing them in the Imperial Parliament. It is always desirable to avoid a contest, if possible. The disturbance to business, the money that must be expeii !e the time aad trouble that is required, and the iii-fceling etween persons and paitics that is enge dered, iu the heat of a contested election, makes it very desirable teat it should be avoided. Whoever creates a contest takes upon himself a grave and heavy r< spous'bi ity. On when. dees this responsibility rest in the present ele^'ionf Not on tbe Conservatives, because they have brought ,ut Do caii(iiiite. Not upon Air Parry, because he is the selected of the Libei^I Acsociati .'ii. Therefore it muot rest upon alx Sorton-Parry. Why has he come out? Is Mz ■Jones-Parry net a thorough Liberal, after 'he heart rd the Liberal Association ? Is he not a firm and devoted supporter of Mr G'adstcre? Is he net in tavour ot the Higher Eduo>.ta Scheme, Local Option, and ní8(st.abli!;hel.:? Yes. Mr Jov." Parry's political creed is in that c?.u be desired. He is, aud has proved himself to be. a Liberal to the backbone. Ti .it being so; Mr Sorton-Parry'e claims (if he Lag any) must rest upon his own perssual merlt,¡. We do not know anything personally of the Independent Candidate, so we must accept his own recommendation from his own lips. We have read his address, his speeches, iizd circulars, and will endeavour to examine hia claims, in a fair manner, from a common 3::li,¡e point of view. lat Claim. IS He has been born in Carnarvon.™ That by itself is no recommendation. There are hundreds born in Carnarvon every year, and we can hardly te expected to find seats in Parlia- ment for them all. But Mr Pair; says he went to Liverpool when he was thirteen years of ape, so that Carnarvon has net received any beneit from the fact that he was born there. Indeed, Mr Parry is more indebted to Carnarvon for taking care of him, when he was a helpless Lid, than Carnarvon is to him for the honour he put upon it by condescending to be born in it. 2nd Claim. "That he has risen from poverty tg -T^ affluence." We are very glad of this for his own snke, but who else has been benefited by thief Has Wales or Welshmen, either in the Prin- cipality or out of it, been a whit better off bee vase Mr Robert Sortou-Parry is a mean of "ample means ?" If this cannot be proved, then we accuse Mr ortCHl- Parry of a want of patriotism. He must have known that Wales is poor, that her public insti'utions are few and poorly supported, that her educational wants are very great, and yet he has not given her any holp. Here is a man, rolling iu wealth, sailing his own schooner-yatch, and driving his own carriage-and-four, and having three residences," and who has never turned a compwiontite eje towards his native country, "poor little Wales, and not even noticed her unies* there were some honours to be had, some high cflftcu to be filled, or some royal family to be entertained Here is a patriot worthy of your homage! Oh! ye electors of the Carnarvon Boroughs, bow d-,ivn before him. He comes to see you when he wants to gratify his own ambition! 3rd Claim. He has been a great merchant, a part-owner of the Great Eastern (or the GREAT FOLLY), and a large contractor with the East India Company." What has this got to do with the Carnarvon boroughs Election, we I cannot conceive. If he had been a part-owner of our grand Pavilion, a doner of a park or an institute, the propiirtor ri a line of steamers between Car- narvon pnd Liverpool, or a great contractor for slates, we could have understood and valued hie claim, but 113 it 's we are too stupid to see any- thing but elf. praise (" Welwch ch'i fl !") in it.| 4th Claim. He says he comes at the invitation, and according to an agreement between him and the Libeial Association. This he has not been able to prove All his attempts at proving this have been so far futile, and prove contrary. 5th Claim. He is ambitious for the honour. We have no doubt of this, and consider it the founda- tion of all his claims. His ambition has always been, he says, to "sail his own schooner-yacht, to erive his own carriage-and-four, and to reprpreut his native boroughs in Parlia- ment." Now, is this an ambition of a high order ? Is there anything higher than per- sonal vanity to be gratified by being possessed of a yacht, and to drive in a carriage drawn by four horses? Is th-re anything noble, pure, or morally elevating in sue a an ambition ? Is there any good cause to lIe advanced, atJy human ill to be allevi- ated any permanent benefit to the community at large to be derived from such an ambition ? We think not. The poorest man in Carnarvon, who devotes his small talents, and opportunities to- wards bettering and elevating his fellow creatures, is infinitely higher and more worthy of support than a man whos > "life ambition has been the gratification of his own vanity. Now, we have seen that on political grounds Mit Jones Parry and Mr Forton-Parry are about equal, but on personal grounds Mr Jones-Parry's claims are mpvvely higher. He has been born, and has lived,^ and spent his money amongst xia. ^6ri7-ai ne lnva^able services to the party, and to Wales generally; and to crown all, he is the selected candidate of the Liberal electors. Mr Joiies-Pa,ry is ^?litii g the battle of his party, T.ton-Parry is fighting fo? himself, and working into the hands of the Covservativea.-I am, sir, your obedient servant, ELBCTOB.
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MR SORTON-PARRY AND HIS SUPPORTERS-
been named as being connected with Mr bortún- j Parry's candidature, and that gentleman was m duty bound to name the third party. He Relieved the third was the chief mover id the matter, ar a thbt it was bim wbo bad reque tei b.r Parry to j come forward. It was right, that Mr Sorton Parry should name him,—not to gratify th.at mceung, bat in public justice. He trusted they would ail listen fairly to Mr Parry, as it would be a shame for Liberals not to give him the opportunity of speaking. They were, as a party, always rfady to listen to everything which was open, to be fairly argued (cheers). air Sorton-Parry then went on to say that no knew what the previous gentleman wanted in asking for the name of the third party. He did not believe Dr Kirk would divulge a friend s secret (cries: "Name," jAswer the question, and great disturbance). ¥ Dr Kirk asked the audiAce if the answer was satisfactory or not (cries: "No"). He was asked if it was gentlemanly to name a friend when it •was a matter of secrecy. A great disturbance followed, and another gentleman attempted to speak but failed. Mr Norton Parry, amidst great excifc-nu.it, mentioned the name of Mr Walter Hvtghes, who Sit in the centre of the hall. Whereupon r Hu^ties approached the platform, aeoKea 1.0 say a few words. He (Mr Sotton-Parry) asked him to retire, and a great disturbance ensuea. Mr Sorton-Parry further sai i I want you to answer me a question, Mr Hughes. \cu 3\au't speak here (great confusion). I want you to answer me a question, first. Mr Hughes, who was still standing, said, 1\ No, I won't, sir." M/ Hughes, after a short deiberation, was al- lowed to proceed, and he said: Mr Sorton-Pany has divulged to me personally and in confidence the name of the gentleman who dined w,Lh him :n London, and therefore I cannot name him. I hid nothing to do whatever with his (Mr Sortor;. Parry's) coming forward—then nor now (louu cheers and. applause). If I had b,;cu one of the persons to call Mr Sorton-Parry to the field why should Mr Parry himself have reed to ask me shortly before Mr Bulkeley Hughes's death — (groans)—if I would support him. I bad nothing at all to do with bia candidature, and I told Mr PaTlY at first that I would h"ve nothing at fill to do with him. I remember that on the Jay of the interview Mrs Sorton-Parry a^ked me to try and change my mind; but I told her I could not (cheers). I perhaps had something to do with him in 1880, but I told him then that J would never change my mind on the question. I told him that if he retired in 1880 in favour of Mr Bulkeley Hughes he wouli iitaud a better chance; but to say that I promised him my support unless he should be the selected candidate is quite untrue (long cheering). Dr Kirk again came forward to speau:, and said If Mr Sorton-Parry had mentioned no names at all we should not have troubled him, and surely would not think of attempting to came forward to the platform. But whilst Mr Parry has mentioned two names, I don't see why should he keep back the other one. Surely the two gentlemen whom he has named did not give their sanction to have the'r names divulged. He could not, therefore, see why should one name be kept so pr:v.»te at the u.6t of disclosing other names Mr Sort m. Parry (in a great confusion and uproar): I have some more revelations to make, sir (voices: "Name, Name," "Answer the question," and more rowdjism). The audience at, this juncture again gave three cheers for "Mr Jones-Parry," and the whtlj building was filled with the echoes of '• Hurrah! hurrah Al! Mr Sortou-Paity's supporters then left the platform without proposing a vote of thanks to tLe chairman, and the vast audience shouted" Joues- Parry for ever." The Rev Spinther James (tho, chairman), however, wished them all good- night." As Mr Sorton-Parry and his followers quitted the oratory, the OTHER PARTY STEPPED TO THE PLATFORM, and held a second meeting, which was, though very enthusiastic, orderly to the end. IÐ Dr Kirk was voted to the chair, and in a short statement remarked that what they had done that evening was quite an unusual thing—they had taken possession of the enemies' camp, and that without any bloodshed (laughter aud applause). They had heard Mr gotton- Parry's views on the political questions of the day, and he was obliged to say that they were such as he could offer no dissent. Had Mr Sorton-Parry kept with politics he was sure he wo u 1st have got better hearing. He did not like ts have disturbed the meeting; but iir Parry had brought the disturbance himself by refusing to answer the questions put to him. He was tasked to propose an amendment to the rtsolution put to the other meeting (voice: They passed none," and laughter). He then proposed the following resolution:—"That this meeting is of opiuion ion that Mr Jones-Parry is a fit and proper candidate to represent the Carnarvonshire boroughs in the House of Commons, and pledges itself to secure his return." Mr Sorton-Parry w'-uld have to be vary wide-awake Of lie would be obliged to leave after this contest with a very unfavourable character. It was right he should see that the Liberal Association was not to be played with, and also that they were not the party who would be dictated to by any gentleman. It was I right that he should find his folly in coming to contest these boroughs at the commands oi one single individual who wag a member of the association and who did not abide wit i the rules of that society. Such people would find, perhaps, in so coming forward that they had committed an error (loud cheers). The Rev J. Alun Roberts then rose to second the resolution. He was very eorry that it was his duty to rise up at the meetirg as he had done but he was quite confident and sptisfied that he had asked the question gentleraantly (voicc (I Yes, hone&t"), The reason Mr Sorton-Pairy had given for refusing to give the name asked for •was—that such a thing as to divulge a becre was not gentlemanly. Was it gentlemanly for him to name the other two (voice: That is not before the meeting" and great cries of Turn that man out who intrudes upon the speaker "). Dr Kirk (in the confussion): Be quiet, piease; I am sure the man who uttered those words will not httack any of us. Mr O. O. Roberts: He has no right to interrupt, sir, he has come here from Montgomeryshire (confusion and laughter). Mr Roberts then went on and referred to Mr Sorton-Parry's language towards him when he first asked the question from the body of the hall He thought he bad not done as much as should can for such black guarding (cheers). It was quite uncalled for (cheers). He then referred to the claims of Mr Jones-Parry as the most suitable candidate to be elected. He was the man who had first fought their battles (cheers) and was a thorough Liberal (applause). Three cheers were then given to "Lady Jones Parry." Mr J. Davies (Gwyneddon) then addressed the meeting in support of the resolution. He was sorry to find some old frierds on the platform who were on their opponent's side, and among them his aged and respected friend, the Rev Samuel Roberts (S.R.) Let, them be reepected, and he hoped the audience would not deal harshly with them by letting "too much steam" at them. He thought the question put forward as to the names was a very fair one. If there was anyone present who should like to ask them a question he would ask him to come forward, and the question put by them would be answered in a stiaightforward manner. As to the two names which Mr Sorton Parry did Inention, he would like to point out that Mr W. J. Parry, the first of the two named, was the election agent of Mr Jones-Parry in UT4 (cries of II Shame )■ He was not a voter in the Boroughs then, neither was he at tne time when he tried to I persuade Mr Sorton ^arr/ to come out in 1880. What they had .°,aid about Mr John Roberta, Bangor, -lid not aeeui to be of any value, and appeared more. of a .farce than anything else. Mr Spinther James had come there to tako part in the meeting; but It would have been mieh better if he had stajed at home (cheers). He (Mr James) had Jasked Mr Sorton-Parry to retire iu 1880 in support of Mr Bulkeley Hughes but how could he have respected Mr Bulkeley Hught s as he said he did when he was canvass- ing for Mr Sorton Parry before that gentle- mau's death. As for Mr Sorton-Parry he wished to congratulate him on his having pushed himself forward to a place of po- sition in th-2 world. They ought all to respect liini on this account (cheers). He gave them to un- derstand that he had £ 12,000 shares in the Great Eistem (laughter), and some similar amount in the East I adit Company (laughter). But where had he been with this money (renewed laughter;. They had not got any (cheers and laughter). Mr;Sorton- Parry was making a boast that he had had no I education but did he want the children of Wales for the generations to come to be the same (cheers). It seemed very much like it, for, with all his money he did not give a farthing towards the cause of education in Wales (" Shame," Oh "). Had he given any of his money towards the University College of Wales (cheers, and "No"). Mr Jone3- P irry had given X300 towards that institution- cheers)—but he had not made a mention of this fact in any of his meetings (cheers). There was another thing he wished to call attention to. There was one gentleman present from Llandudno—who was'ajmember of the Liberal Association -wot king against that association, and doing what he could on their opponents' side. He was sorry to find him (Cries, Shame "). There was besides ano- ther one too, who, he deplored to say, was present at the association meeting when the arrangements for their campaign were being discussed ("Shame"). They were men who could not be relied t pon; they did what they liked, let the party go where it may. Mr Jones Pjrry was the man whom they had brought forward, and it was their duty to support him, which, ae hoped, the greater number of them, after all, would do (cheers). Mr Charles A. Jones, solicitor, then came for- ward, and in one of the most fluent speeches of the evening said that he wished to say a few words; but they would please understand that .t was not on behalf of the Conservative A3sociation that he was going to speak. What he was about to say would be on his own responsibility. He had read the addresses of the respective candidates, and he was more in favour of Mr Jones-Parry because he was a gentleman who had been born in the county and had spent all his life with them. Mr Sorton- Parry was said to have a deal of money; but he bad not spent any money amongst them (cheers). They had never heard anything of him until now (cheers). He had refused to give the name of the third gentleman whom he was asked to submit to the meeting along with the two others, find he believed there was no harm in saying that he was Mr John Evans, the proprietor of the Carnarvon and Denbigh Herald ('4 Oh," "Oh," and Shame," &c). Why should Mr Soitoia-Parry have refused to give up his name ? Why should he keep secret the name of Mr John Evans more than the other two ? When they asked for his name ho would not. give it, and he thought they \*ere quite right in not giving him a hearing when he insisted upon keeping MrJohn Evans's]name at the expense of exposing the other two (crit s of Shame "). Mr Sorton-Parry had said that he had been promised the support of the Liberal party. He had read the whole papers, but could not find that they had promised him any support at all (cheers). He had no claims upon the electors (cheers, and applause). Mr Jones- Parry had fought vigorously their battles upon former occasions (cheers); and he might have got the seat in the present election without the expense arsd trouble of a contested flection, had it not been for Mr Sorton-Parry (groans). He hoped his candidature would become I an actual failure. He had not answered where he was born (laughter). He hoped Mr Jones-Parry would get in (cheers). He was a proper person to I represent them in Parliament (cheers). fhe Rev Evan Jones then addressed the meet. ing, requesting them not to treat their opponents too hard, that they were as good Liberals as they themselves were, only they happened to have fallen into bad company (laughter). However, I he t usted this would be a proof for their enemies that it would not do for them to come and dis- turb the electors at the dictation of individuals who happened to go with them to dine (hear, and cheers)? He then spoke at some length on the merits of Mr Jones,Parry as a candidate. He wished to ask the meeting if there was anyone present who wished to propose an amendment to the resolution read to them. Air Davies, Dolcaradog, rose to propose that Mr Jones-Party was not the best candidate for the Carnarvonshire Boroughs, A Voice He is the best candidate. You have no vote, &c. Mr Edwards (mayor of Pwllheli): This gentle- man has no right to speak or move a resolution. Mi O. O. Roberts: He has no right to propose anything. (Confusion). I A Voice He is a paid speaker. (Uproar.) The Chairman then put the former resolution to the meeting, which was carried with but two dis- sentient votes in the whole audience. A vote of thanks was afterwards passed to the chairman for presiding.