The Aberdare Leader

Victoria Square Gatherings. ANIMATED PROCEEDINGS.— SECULARISTS v. SALVATIONISTS. On Saturday evening a fairly large crowd gathered around the familiar lamp-post in the top of Victoria Square. The speaker this time was Mr. Wis- hart, of the National Secular Society, who spoke under the auspices of the Aberdare Secular Society. Mr. Wis- hart dealt with, among other matters, the question of personal responsibility, declaring that man was responsible, not to God, but to his fellow-man. At the close of the address Mr. George Lewis, who presided, invited questions. Mr. James L. Thomas, who was passing at the time, hurled the following query at the lecturer's head, "When and where did you pay your Trade Union subscrip- tion last?" This caused considerable laughter, but Mr. Wishart promptly gave the, desired information. The lecturer was asked to prove that Christianity taught responsibility to God and not to man, and he cited pas- sages of Scripture in support of his con- tention. He iheld that certain modes of punish- ment sanctioned by theology were re vengeful, and did not. tend to reform the criminal. Asked what would he substi- tute for such punishments he said that it would be better to find out the cause of the crime, and change the enviion- ment which was accountable for it. Another question submitted was, If God is all-merciful, why does he pun- ish?" Mr. Wishart replied that some Christian ought to answer that question and not himself. A Voice: Then shall I answer it? I am a Christian. Mr Wishart: Not at this meeting, but elsewhere. The meeting was declared over, but for about two hours knots of controversial- ists might be seen on the spot discussing with animation the points raised at the lecture. On Sunday evening, at the Black Lion Square, Mr. Wishart spoke on H Christ's Morality Unsound," Mr. Ben Evans pre- siding. Mr. Wishart remarked that Tom Paine had really forestalled the Higher Criticism and the New Theology. People who could be sensible in business and worldly affairs appeared to lose their heads entirely when they dealt with re- ligion. The speaker went on to criticise the Sermon on the Mount. He held that the Golden Rule, which, by-the-way, was not'the original production of Christ, was not a sound moral principle. The action of the gambler on the Stock Ex- change, who was prepared to be done by others as well as to do others, was justi- fied by the Golden Rule. The beatitudes Blessed are the poor and "Blessed are the meek," also taught a wrong mor- ality. The precept, "Take no thought for the morrow," discouraged provident measures. Those who paid insurance premiums and contributed to a friendly society were laying up treasures on earth, contrary to the divine command A few questions were put to the speaker and answered by him. For a long time after the close of the meeting a debating group lingered on the Square. A number cf Salvationists appeared on the scene, and a warm dis- cussion between them and some of the leading Secularists took place. The dis- cussion had reached a high pitch of ani- mation when a local preacher, who hap- pened to pass that way, made an it. tempt to discontinue the proceedings by requesting those present to sing the Dcx- ology. This was done, and that gentle- man went his way remarking that he had done his duty. The discussion, how- ever, survived his intervention, and be- came more heated than ever. One of the Secularists made a casual remark to the effect that he could understand all men and women, when a lady in Salva- tion Army attire sharply contradicted him, H Yon don't understand my old man, I am sure," she said. "I have slept with him 34 years, and I don't know him yet. This remark naturally produced laughter, and for a long time the discussion was characterised with no little levity. H I belong to Christ," said one Salvation Army man." "No, you belong to Wm. Booth, the biggest sweater on the lace of the earth," retorted a Freethinker. "He is an infidel, let us go away," implored one woman. He ought to be shot," remarked another. One Salvation Army lassie made strenu- ous efforts to dissuade her conipiiii,.)D from arguing the subject, the latter insisted upon combatting- "the infidel The Salvationists seemed to enter into the controversy with great vigour, but their earnestness seemed to lose its effect in the laughter and levity which was introduced. Ou the ether hand, the champion of the Secularists seemed to be labouring under great excitement Finally he was tackled by a sharp little man who claimed that he possessed con- siderable knowledge of both worlds. A remark which fell from his lips that "London is fast becoming a continental city" created fresh laughter. Probably he meant that the Continental Sabbath was gaining favour in London. The pro- ceedings caused considerable amusement I to a crowd of spectators, while others shock their heads as they passed. Some who were present weie under the impression that it was the I.L.P who held the fort, and were heard to remark, I knew that these here Socialists were infidels." THE SPEAKER HOOTED. On Monday evening Mr Wishart again mounted the lamp-post rostrum, and gave an address on "The Farce and Fraud of Christianity." When the op- portunity for questions came, quite a shower of interrogations were poured on him. Having impugned the morality of the Bible lie was asked what book would he substitute for it. He replied, Shakespeare's Works." Thereupon he was hooted and cried down. More ques- tions were launched at him, but owing to the interruptions he was unable to re- ply. "Drive him out." cried one, and othei-s protested vigorously against the speaker's sayings. A general uproar en- sued, and were it not that the meeting had to be closed in order that the I.L.P. might occupy the platform," the chaos would probably have developed into a violent riot. At 7.30 Mr. G. H. Bibbings appeared on the spot to speak on behalf of the I.L.P. Mr. Bibbings took great pains to explain that the meeting just held had no connection whatever with the I.L.P., at the same time expressing his regret that any public speaker should not be allowed perfect freedom of speech. Mr. Bibbings now asked the audience if they were perfectly convinced that the I.L.P. were not in any way re- sponsible for the previous meeting. Thereupon Mr. Ben Evans, who presided at the Secularist meeting, denied the existence of any such misunderstanding- Mr. Bibbings: "I heard distinctly a gentleman saying that he thought the previous meeting was hekl under the auspices of the I.L.P." Mr. Evans con- t tinved to disclaim any misapprehension, and after a further discussion between him and Mr. Bibbings, the latter pro- ceeded with his address.

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Aberdare. "nalue for Money.-For up-to-date Hats «hri ^aPs» Suits to measure (fit and Guaranteed), go to J. A. Evane, the ini? Shop, Constitutional Build- Caaon Street. COAL, COAL.—Messrs. Ehydd- sad Thomas, Coal, Coke, and Fire- inf* Merehants, TafE Vale Yard, wish to jjorm the householders of Aberdare flni ct that t]ie>' llave been appointed jj-7 Agents of the District for the igpted GRAIG NANTMELTN COAL. are desirous of thanking their "ttierous customers for their loyal sup- |?^t m the past, and wish to assure them thp as llsuaJ orders entrusted to ni*r care will have their very best and oraptest attention. They are also i ^or Ebbw Vale, Miskin, and div1'6 Best House Coals. Private ad- UIess, 50, Monk-street. Nat. Tel., 99. ■rp^-SEHNACLE (Cong.).-The Rev. J. -^hys, pastor of Bethany, Aberaman, 'as the occupant of the pulpit of Taber- ^acle on Sunday morning. Mr. Rhys's ^iiion was based on the two words con- ^Hed in John xvii., 11, "Holy Father." e, remarked that the great question that aitated the world to-day was not hether there was a God or not, but What is God?" To-day science and Philosophy affirmed that to prove the °n-existence of God was not in their Rt'^illCe1 Pr *n their power. Atheism had i passed away from the higher 'ti.v '6S thought. To-day people were the nature and the ^acter of God. In the text Jesus urist was not talking about God as h-iiV.118 talking to God. Iii the text we •'■Sr Christ's answer to the question, Inf *s (^<K' It was a brief one, irn Prf'oiiiint with meaning. The words ;iii i a Pa^ei'nal relation between God .W his people. Jesus often spoke of the 11 Mom of God, but seldom he men- Jn0l4a? ^0<i as a King but as a. Father. i the first place- Christ confirmed the Gr?i Cati°n of the title, "Father," to d. Jesus explained that what was tv • in the Psalms was the great reali- 4? of his religion. Again Christ widened significance of the term. Tlie chil- reii of Israel thought they had the .oijopoly of God's fatherly regard. But ti esu,s's religion there was no distinc- Ive caste or nationality, all mankind j,ere included. Again Jesus enriched conception of "Father." Was God he father of all people in precisely the ,anie sense? There was a difference be- ^r€en the sonship of Clhrist and the ^Qixship of humanity. Again Christ made distinction between the sonship of ihose who' loved God and the sonship of who rebelled against him. More- v^i', the text taught us that God was «fhblimely perfect in his character— Holy" father. Different objects, such s a house, a book, a day, or a vessel were .ailed "holy," but these were simply in their relation to God, because hey were' consecrated to his service. No 'lJ:J.an could outgrow the goodness of God; 5,° man could become independent of If God was such a Father, then ■w^at kind of children ought we to be? ought to enlarge our conception of rii'St in God. A minister once asked octor, "Do you believe, in God?" *es, certainly," was the reply. "That our only way of accounting for the Ssee we lose." In this manner many of 11& were accustomed to calling God in when we were overwhelmed by the jj'tficulties and perplexities of life. The "jjoliness of God ought to demand greater ,p6verence on the part of the children of To th'nk flippantly of God was to Wake it impossible for God to make the •ffst of us.'—In the evening the Rev. J. j"- Jones, the pastor, preached a very filing sermon ST. JOHN',S BIBLE CLASS.—On Sun- "(14Y afternoon there was a good number T^&sent, and Mr. W. S. de Winton, M.A., delivered an eloquent address. PRESENTATION.—On Friday even lng, at the Town Council School, a meet- was held by the staff of the school to hiark the retirement of Mr. M. H. Nichols, who has been headmaster of that school for the last 30 years. There Were present a large number of teachers. Tea was provided, and a large number Partook of it. Mrs. Hughes, the head- mistress of the Town Infants' School, Presented Mr. Nichols with an elegant Garble clock. Mr. Nichols expressed his warmest thanks to the donors. CHURCH MISSION LEAGUE. On Sunday last the harvest thanksgiving Services were held. At 8 a.m. there was a celebration of the Holy Communion at St. Elvan's Church. In the afternoon there was a children's service at the "Green Street Mission Rooms. Mr. Clay- ten gave an appropriate address. At .3.15 p.m. there was a service for men. Mr. W. S. de Winton, M.A., delivered helpful address. Mr Geo. H. Temple- ftian presided at the harmonium. At the tiling service in the Memorial Hall there was a crowded congregation. Mr. Clayton took the service, and an inspir- ing sermon was preached by Mr. W. S. flc Winton, M.A. Mrs. Twissell was at dhe harmonium, assisted by an orchestra, insisting of the following: -Violills Messrs. H. Jones and F. Tree; flute, Mr. 'T. Lawrence; clarinet, Mr. L. Morris: Mr. J. Prichard; double bass, Mr. H. L. Berry. The hall was tastefully de- corated. In the evening at 7.30 Mr. de 1Vinton again preached at Green Street. ST. ELVAN'S.—On Sunday morning the Te Deum was sung to Sullivan in D. and an interesting sermon was preached by the Rev. K. O. Carter, B.A. Taking as his text the reference in Act x, 38, to Jesus, H who went about doing good," the preacher said that -these words told us quite briefly what Was set forth more fully in the gospels. There were many unpleasant incidents in the lifer of anyone who went about vicing good. Our Lord did not force his teaching on his hearers. Did we go about doing good ? Did parents set an Example to their children in this matter? What we were had a greater effect upon children than what we said. It was the character that told. Many of us could lock back upon our schooldays, to the teachers whose characters were, always before us. Let us use the text as a sub- ject of self-examination, and let us by earnest prayer show forth our lives to the glory of Gcd. In the afternoon the Rev. K. O. Carter, B.A., conducted the children's service. At the evening ser- vice the canticles were eung to Bennett in F, and an earnest sermon was Preached by the Rev. W H. Jones, B.A. Hr. Webb was at the organ. Cwmbach. RA.O.B.-At the Itoyal Oak Inn, Cwm- bach, a grand smoker was held on Wed- nesday evening, the 4th inst., under the auspices of the R.A.O.B., on the occa- sion of presenting Bro. Thomas Davies, late secretary of the Blodeuvn Cynon Lodge on his departure to Caerau, Maes- teg. The chair was occupied by Bro. J. M. Zeterstrom, P.G.P., Merthvr, the vice-chair by Bro. F. Evans, P.G.P. A strong muster of Buffs from different lodge,s of the Province, had assembled, The Chairman opened the meeting with a short address, paying a high compli- ment to Bro. Davies for services ren- dered to the Order, and this Lodge in particular. Their loss would be a gam to Caerau. The following programme SaS ,,„e11 P™ce«led with: —Overture by Bro. Ihos R, Evans, A.T.S.C.; song by Bro. J. N. S. James, Cwmbach; song by Bro. Abraham Jones, Cwmbach; recita- tion by Bro. David J. Emmanuel, Cwm- bach; song by Bro. D. G. Pugsley; song by Bro Willie Evans; song, Mr. Llew Jones, Aberdare, who responded to an en- core. Then came the chief item of the evening, the presentation by the chair- man of a suitably inscribed gold jewel to Uro. Davies for services rendered to the lodge, the chairman gave a most elo- quent address, urging all members to do their utmost to carry out the objects of their noble Order. Also a few words were said by the Vice-chairman and Bro. Harry T. Jones, P.G.Sec., and secretary of lodge, wishing every success to the recipient in his new sphere. Bro. Davies returned thanks for the honour which the lodge had conferred on him that evening. He wished every success to his mother lodge, the Blodeuyn Cynon, which was no doubt the flower among the lodges of the Order. The musical pro- gramme was then proceeded with —Song ?>y BrS' Stock, Aberaman; recitation", tiro. Hi. JJl. Jones, Aberaman; songs bv Messrs. John Simon (Cwmbach), Tho". R. Evans (Cwmbach), W. Stock, and 1-6j-T ,nes' w-bo also led off (after a vote ot thanks to_ the chairman, artistes, and visitors) in singing God Save the King and rHen Wlad fy Nhadau."

Mountain Ash. A PLEASANT SURPRISE you'll give the wife if you turn out in one of Tom Davies's fashionable well-made suits. 1 lie latest cut and reasonable prices. Address: Commercial-street, Mountain Ash. WREATHS, Bouquets, Crosses, Harps, Poses, Button Holes, Cut Flowers, etc at F. Turner's. The Mountain Ash Flor- ist, 11, Allen-street. Advt. NOTICE.-Mr Fred Allen, 20, Jeff revs- street, is our representative for Moun- tain Ash and district, and he' has no connection with any other paper. CRICKET AVERAGE. Mr. Harry lurner heads the batting averages for the season with 37 runs per innings. The bowHng average is headed by Mr. A. Skilton, who took 67 wickets during the season, at a cost of 5.4 runs PROVIDENCE ENGLISH CONGRE- GATIONAL CHURCH.-A grand bazaar will be held on Monday and Thursday Sept. 16th .and 19th, at the Pavilion! The Bazaar will be opened on Monday by Mrs. D. A. Thomas, and on Thursday by Gwilym Jones, Esq. Opening time each day, 2.30. Fancy, Drapery, Flower, and Fruit Stalls, Side Show, etc. Door open at 2 p.m. Admission, 6d. only. PERSONAL.—The numerous friends of Sergi. Chas. Lewis, who was recently promoted from this place to Gowerton, will regret to learn that he met with a serious accident recently. He was doing his rounds on a bicycle, when he collided with another cyclist, with the result that the Sergt. sustained serious injuries to his arm and leg. His leg is improving, but the state of his arm causes great anxiety to his friends, who hope, how- ever, that he may soon recover. CEFNPENNAR R.F.C. At the Butchers' Arms last Thursday night the general meeting of the above club was u • nil' Hubert Fortt occupied the chair. The minutes of the previous meeting were read and adopted. The officials appointed were as follows: — Captain, R. Jennan; vice-captain, C. Simmonds. After a discussion it was de- cided to join the Glamorgan Times League and the Aberdare and District League. Permission has been granted to the club for the use of the field on those Saturdays when the first team are play- ing away. FUNEP,AL.-L-,ist Thursday afternoon the mortal remains of Mrs. Elizabeth Lloyd, of 11, Glancynon-street, Miskin, were interred at Caegarw Cemetery. The deceased lady was 68 years of age, and leaves six children. The Rev. John Howells, Bethesda Baptist Chapel, con- ducted a service at the house and at the graveside. A large assembly of friends and relatives sang Lead, kindly light." A beautiful wreath was given by the children, In loving memory of our dear mother." There were also several floral tributes from other relatives. The whole of the funeral arrangements were in the hands of Mr. Frank Mills. R.A.O.B. CHURCH PARADE.—Last Sunday the Sirdar Lodge (B nice Arms) of the above order held their annual parade at St. Margaret's Church. A gumd procession started at 3 o'clock from the lodge-room, headed by the Chaplain, the Rev. D. E. Roberts, M.A. The Moun- tain Ash Volunteer Band was in at- tendance, and the loute taken was High- street, Darran-road, Oxford-street, and Pfrwd-crescent. The following lodges also sent delegates: Belle Vue, Penrhiw- ceiber; Aberdare Lodge, Treliarris; Merthyr and Abercynon: The service was fully choral, special chants and hjnins being used for the occasion. The chaplain chose for his text the words, Ye are all brethren." In the course of an eloquent sermon the preacher dwelt on the- necessity of brotherly in- tercourse, and warned them of the dangers accruing from excesses. Help would be derived by appealing to the world's brother, their Lord Jesus Christ. After service the procession passed through Duffryn-road, Lyndhurst-street, Campbell-terrace, Navigation-street, and thence to the lodge. ABERDARE DEANERY SUNDAY SCHOOL ASSOCIATION.—The annual festival of the above association was held last Saturday at Mountain Asih. The first meeting took place at Caegarw Schools. The Rev. R. Jones occupied the chair, in the absence of the president. There were also present the Revs. H. Thomas and D. E. Roberts, M.A. (Welsh and English secretaries), Rev. J. Sinnett Jones, M.A., Rev. J. Morgan (Vicar of Hirwain), Rev. J. R. Jones (Vicar of Penrhiwceiber), Rev. J. Pughe Jones, B.A., Rev. J. Odwen Jones, B.A., Messrs. J. Grant, G. Shaw, R. P. Dowling, A. T. Jenkins, A. W. Brynn, and Miss Shipton. The minutes of the previous meeting were read by the Rev. D. E. Roberts, and were adopted unanimously. The principal business was the election of officers. The Rev. C. A. H. Green, B.D., Rural Dean, was elected the president on the proposition of the Vicar of Mountain Ash, seconded by Mr. A. W. Brynn. The vice-presidents appointed were Mr. Alfred Morgan (Director of Education), Mountain Ash, and Mr. Dan Davies, Aberdare. The Rev. D. J. Arthur, B.A., read the secretary's report of the Welsh section, and the Rev. D. E. Roberts, M.A., read the English report. On the proposition of Mr. J. Grant, seconded by the Vicar of Hirwain, the former gentle- men were re-elected secretaries for the year. The meeting adjourned for tea, which had been prepared in the Parish Room. The evening meeting was well attended, and the Vicar of Mountain Ash occupied the chair. Mr. Jenkins, in presenting the examination scheme, found himself in a peculiar position, as he was opposed to it entirely. The Vicar of Penrhiwceiber, speaking in favour of the scheme, said it was wonderful how much one imagined one knew ,until a test was applied. The scheme would, in his opinion, make the association a reality, but if it was not to be generally adopted it would be far better to drop it. Tine proposal to accept the scheme came from Mr. J. Grant, seconded by the Rev. H. Thomas. Miss Shipton moved an amend- ment, that the scheme be dropped alto- gether; for the scheme to be successful there would have to be compulsory at- tendance on the part of the scholars and also the teachers. The Revs. D. J. Arthur and R. Jones supported the amendment, which was eventually car- ried by a large majority. The visitors' reports were read. The chairman criti- cised the reports, and advocated more generous treatment by the visitors to the various schools. The reports were una- nimously adopted. Evensong was held ai St. Margaret's Church, when a special address was delivered by the Rev. Canon Lewis, Ystradyfodwg. MOUNTAIN ASH COTTAGE HOSPI- TAL EISTEDDFOD. The committee of the above met on Saturday evening at the Ffrwd Office. Mr. W. S. Davies oc- cupied the chair. There were also present: Messrs. T. Hughes (secretary), D. 1 Evans, M. George, T. Richards, W. G. lhomas, B. Ashton, John Davies, D. P. Jones, L. J. Davies, Sam Davies, loan Dar, YY. J. Jones, Edward Williams, and B Thomas. The secretary read a com- munication from Mr. John Powell, thanking the committee for tlieir hand- some donation of £ 300 to the funds of the Cottage Hospital. This sum is to be augmented by £ 60. The Secretary then read the balance sheet, which showed the satisfactory sum of d £ 384 to the good. It was unanimously passed that the sums of X20 and X2 10s. be given respec- tively to Messrs. T. Hughes, the secre- tary, and Mr. Sam Davies, the assistant secretary. These honorariums did not represent what the committee thought would be enough, but the gentlemen men- tioned the amounts themselves. On the proposition of Mr. Ed. Williams, second- ed by Mr. Wm. Jones, the balance sheet was accepted subject to inspection by two auditors. Mr Ben Ashton proposed, and Mr. M. George seconded, that Messrs. G. A. Evans and Tom Richards be appointed auditors. Mr. W. G. Thomas proposed, and Mr. D. T. Evans seconded, the print- ing of the balance sheets. Mr. W. S. Davies stated that a meeting would be called to consider matters relating to the next Eisteddfod, and also thought that the opinions of expert musicians should be obtained as to the character of test pieces which should be worthy of what has now become known as the Semi-National. Speaking on the ques- tion of the secretaryship, the chairman suggested the advisability of retaining the services of Mr. D. T. Evans, as Mr. T. Hughes had found the work rather arduous. The chairman was then asked to vacate the chair, and an interesting presentation took place. Mr. D. T. Evans, who was then elected to the chair, stated that a committee had met to discuss the question of recognising the valuable services of their chairman, Mr. W. S. Davies. Mr. W. G. Thomas said that it being the anniversary of Mr Davies' wedding day, they could scarcely have chosen a more fitting opportunity to honour him. Each member of the committee had subscribed, and the result was that a handsome bookcase now adorned the dining-room of their chair- man. Mr. W. S. Davies expressed his regret that the beautiful present was not in that room that evening, but hoped in the near future to see each member of the committee at his (the speaker's) house. He had already expressed his feelings regarding; certain discussions previous to the last Eisteddfod, and of the negotiations which led up to it. They were enthusiastic not only because it was a local institution, but because of the objects they had in view. There had been differences in the past, and they had agreed to differ. He sincerely hoped that in the future that committee would have the undivided support of the work- men of the collieries. What was done was done for the best, and the result was shown in the splendid surplus. He begged to thank all those who had con- tributed. He had merely done his duty, and his duties had been made lighter by the support he had received from them all,

The "Globe" saysAn honour is about to be paid to a Ccunty Court Judge which no High Court Judge in modern times has received. A statue of the late Judge Gwilym Williams is to be erected ih front of the Law Courts at Cardiff. Literature and medicine have been honoured, but Law is wholly unre- presented among the public etatues of London. ——— But the Globe should understand that Judge Williams is being honoured in his native land not because he v'as a learned lawyer or a great Judge, but be- cause he was a great Welshman. A story comes from America cf a train conveying a travelling menagerie being wrecked. The overturned cart" caught fire, but a number of elephants put it out by carrying water in their trunks from a river close by, and pouring it on the burning wreck. Now in a place like Builtah Weils, where there is plenty of water, and where they cannot afford to keep a Fire Bri- gade, would it 7iot be well te locate a couple of elephants and train them to act as a. salvage corpc- in case nf lire?