Carnarvon and Denbigh Herald and North and South Wales Independent

1910 NATIONAL EISTEDDFOD A meeting of the Executive Committee of the 1910 National Eisteddfod was held on Wednesday, Mr James Amphlett pre- siding. Ten applications were received for the post of general secretary, viz. :—Mr J. E. Jones, Dinglewood, Colwyn Bay; Mr H. Brython Hughes, Llanelian, Colwyn Bay; Mr F- C. Burrwell, Colwyn Bay; Mr John Hughes, Penynant, Colwyn Bay; Rev W. Roderick, Rhvl; Mr Thomas Jones, Glan- dulyn; Mr Rd. Parry, Bourne, Lincoln- shire Mr T. R. Roberts, Carnarvon; Mr E. Lewis Hughes, Cardiff; and Mr Robert Hugh Roberts, Llanfairfechan. After die- cussion, the number of applicants was re- duced to two, viz.:—Mr J. Btrvthon Hughes, Llanelian, and Mr T. R. Roberts, Carnarvon. Before making the final np- pointment it was decided that these gentle- men be asked to attend an Executive Com- mittee meeting on Wednesday next. The Musical and Science and Art Com- mittees reported that on the suggestion of Mrs Brock, they had added to their list a competition for the blind. It was decided to offer a prize of J310 for the best Pavilion plan, and 5 per cent. pro- fessional charges on the outlay.

COUNTY COUNCIL CLERKSHIP SALARY OF 95W, RISING TO L600 TO BE OFFERED. The question of asking Mr.' J. T. Roberts, clerk to the Carnarvonshire County Council to devote the whole of his time to; the work of the county has occupied the attention of the Finance Committee of the Council for some time, and as the result of its deliberations on Saturday, the committee decided to recommend to the Council that Mr. Roberts be asked to devote his whole time to the duties. In the event of such an arrangement being came to an increased salary of £ 500 per an- num will be offered, rising to P,600 by annual increments of P,20, and this will cover all legal charges under the Small Holdings Act, as well as remuneraKion (for discharging •.duties under the new Finance Act which is soon to come into operation.

PERSISTENT WATER BAILIFF THE AiNOIJER AXD HIS LICENSE. At a meeting of the South Carnarvon- shire Fishery Board on Friday, Mr Robert Jones, the fishery bailiff, reported having met an angler on a river bank. He asked him to produce his license. The angler replied that it was alright, but did not produce it. iRe was asked again, but he still refused. The bailiff insisted upon see- ing it, and' thereupon the angfer produced 2s 6d from his pocket as a reward for the bailiff's pensisltenoe and at the game time ihiandSnig hiim his lileense.-The Chairman .remarked that persistence was an essential qmaJifilcattioin in waiter bailiffs, and the Board thanked the bailiff.

LLANDUDNO GUARDIAN SOCIETY. The annual report of the Llandudno Guardian Society has just been issued. It appears that there has been an increase of fivo members since lastt year, and the mem- bership now stands at the record number of 110. The committee state that they have raeeed a resolution opposing the proposed bill to abolish imprisonment for debt, and another supporting the movement sted by the Rlackoool f^xriety cla'ming ex- emption from the operation of the shop Lours legislation for watering places during ten weeks in the summer months. The financial statement showed receipts findudi a balance of L4,3 5s 3d), amount- ing to £,166, and exipenditure, £ ,134. Mr S. R. Bartlev presided over tlie an- nual meeting of the society on Tuesday, .hen Mr Alee Taylor, the vice-presideat, was elected president on the mo:i>n of the chairman, seconded by Mr J. I). Thomas. Mr John 0 Thomas proposed ths election of Dr Kenrick Davies as vice.- Mr Joseph Winter seconded, and it was unanimously agreed to. Mr J. O. Thomas was re-e,;ud hon treasurer and Messrs Henderson aid Hall- mark. solicitors and secret-vies. The following were ejected to form the executive committee:—Messrs A. G. Mov, C. H. Bevan, J. H'. Jones, S. It. Hartley, John Roberts, Howel Jones, E. P. MorH6, ftobert Owen, Wm. Arnold; W. R. Brook-es, ■and Ralph F&h«r.

A PEERAGE ROMANCE LORD) STANLEY lOtFI ALDEiRLEY AS PLAINTIFF. A remarkable romance which concerned titled people well-known in Anglesey was heard at the Probate Court on Monday, be; fore Mr Justice Bargrave Deane, when the property, valued at. about P,40,000, oT th-3 late Fabia, Baroness Stanley of AJderley, was in question. The baroness was a Spanish lady. Her career and that of her husband are thus briefly summarised in "Burke's Peerage:" Henry Edward John, third Baron Stan- ley of Alderley, sometime in the Diplo- matic Service. Born July 11, 1827; mar- ried August, 1862, Fabia (who died May 15, 19C6), daughter of Don Santiago Fed- erico San Roman, of Seville. Died with- out issue December 10, 1903. Some years ago the deceased lady was a frequent visitor to Penrhos, but for a long while was travelling in foreign countries, and as a result her presence was not so famil- iar to the people of Holyhead as others of the family are. The action was entered as Baron Stanley of Alderley v. Lane-Fox-Pitt, the plaintiff being the present baion, who sought pro- bate of a will of 1891 of the baroness. De- fendant was interested under another wul made in unusual circumstances. Mr Priestley, K.C., and Mr Le Bas ap- peared. for the plaintiff, and the former stated that the late Lady Stanly of Aider- ley first married a Spanish gentleman, Don Ramon Perez y Abril, in 1851. This gentleman was still a'ive when she "married" Lord Stanley in 1869, but he I died the following year. In 1374 the lady again married Lord Stanley. Mr Priestley said that his ciirmt, who was a brother of the former baron, propounded a will dated October 26th, 1891, of the late baroness, made at Geneva. It was a holo- graph will, made without attesting witness- es, but was in accordance with the law of that country. Plaintiff was heir at law. and one of the next-of-kin of his deceased brother, the third baron, and under the will of the baroness, of which probate was asked, the ladv ga,ve ail her Swiss and English property to her husband and his heirs. The defendant, Mr Lane-Fox-Pitt, pro- pounded a will of 1869, under which he was the universal legatee, and he had alleged in regard to the other will incapacity, and made other pleads. It was in the course of inquiries made in connection with this suit that it was dis- covered that the testatrix had property in Spain, and when inquiries were made it was discovered that he had made a will there, dated October 18, 1892. in the name of Donna Serafma Fernandez y Funes, by which she revoked all previous Spanish wills. Thus. the disclosure of the double mar- riage romance was brought about. In October, 1892, the late baroness made a will, when it was suggested &he was not of sound mind. Had the present action been fought out, said counsel, it would ha.v., ibeen necessary to decide these questions:- Whether the deceased lady was the law- ful widow of the third Baron Stanley. 'Whether she was the lady known in Spain as Donn-a, Funes. Whether she was of sound, mind -t,, the time of the will of 1892. At one time, said counsel, it was thought that Baroness Stanley could not be the tamo person who made the will, but in the com- promise which had taken place plaintiff ad- i mitted that she was Donna Sheraphjna, Subsequently to 1892 she did u-ndouibtedly become of unsound mind. In L-he agree- ment entered into it was declared that she die marry a Spanish gentleman, Don Ra- mon Perez y Abril in 1851, and married Lord Stanley of Alderley in 1869, and that I she, did execute the will which defendant propounded. Her first husband died :n 1870. and she went through a ceremony of marriage with Lord Stanley of Alder'ev in 1874. which, it was contended', was un- doubtedly valid. By the bompTomise execu- ted by all parties it was arranged that by consent the will proipounded by plaint'ff be admitted to probate, and that the Spanish defendants or interveners offer no evidence. Plaintiff was to take the Swiss and English property, laaving those in Spain to take the Spanish -property. The other side asked for a declaration, to which plaintiff would con- sent, that the deceased lady was the same person known in Spain by the name men- tioned. This was necessary to enable them to get probate of the property in Spain, which was of the value of 220,000 or more, that being also the value of the property in En,gland. The result of the granting o'f the application would be that plaintiff got all the English and Swiss property, valued at about £20,000. and the Spanish defendants and other interveners would get property in Sfpain of a similar value. Other parties interested consented, through their counsel, to this course. His Lordship thereupon, pronounced for the will of October 20, 1891; made a de- claration that the ladv known in Spain as Donna Funes was tho third Baronet "Stan- ley; and that she was domiciled in Eng- land.

ANGLESEY LIBERAL ASSOCIATION The Liberal Association of Anglesey is organising a series of 30 meetings, which will be held during the first 14 days in December. Mr. Edgar R. JQIl M.A., of Wattstown; Mr. Ellis Jones Griffith, M.P., Rev. Evan Jones, Carnarvon, and several other well-known speakers will address these meetings. Two meetings will be held every night, and sometimes three. The meetings are primarily organised in connection with the Disestablishment campaign, but other questions will be discussed also, especially Tariff Reform. The meetings will be held as under:— Nov. 30.—Llanfachreth Llanddeusant. Dec. l.Bryndu; Gwalhmai. Dec. 2.-Beaumaris; Menai Bridge. Dec. 3.-)Iarian Glas; Pentraeth. Dec. 4.—Gaerwen Llangefni. Dec 7.—Llangoed Ltanddona. Dec. 8.—iLlanerchymedd 'Rhosybol. Dec. 9.-Amlwcb. Dec. IO.-Valley; Rhosoolyn. Dec. 11.—Cemaes, Llanrhyddlad. Also at Llanfair P.G. Bryngwran Bry-n- siencyn; Bodedern Llandegfan; Dwyran Penmynydd; Newborough.

CIVIC PROCESSION TO CHAPEL. The Mayor of Conway (Councillor Dr. M. J. Morgan) attended divine service on Wed- nesday afternoon at the Carmel Calvinistic Methodist Chapel, and was accompanied by the members of the Council, officials, fire brigade, and corporate workmen, as well as by the local magistrates and leading resi- dents. The service 'at the chapel, at which the presiding minister was the Rev. William Jones, was partly in Welsh and partly in English. The lRv. O. Selwyn Jones, Degan- wy; the Rev. T. Gwynedd Roberts, the Rev. Fortescue Hubbard CEnglish Weslevarl minister), and the Rev. Luther Thqmas took part in. the service, and the sermon was preached in Etnglish by the Rev. Evan Jones, Carnarvon. Subsequently the Mayor and Mayoress en- tertained a large company to tea in the Town Hall. The offertory at the service, for the Con- way District Nursing Fund, amounted to over 27. (

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MANY TOPICS MANY VJEWS THE OLD AGE PENSIONS LIST I CARNARVON GAS-AND THE RATES INLAND REVENUE OFFICIAL'S DISCLAIMER. To the Editor of the "Herald.") Sir,—I was surprised to see in your last issue a full list of persons who will be en- titled to receive Old Age Pensions on the 1st January next. I would point out to you that publicity is entirely contrary to the spirit of the Old Age Pensions Act. The very first section states that the receipt of an old age pension shall not deprive the pensioner of any franchise, right, or privilege, or I subject him to any disability.. In my investigations I have repeatedly found it difficult to obtain information, as the claimants feared that their names or other particulars might become matters of ipublic .gossip. In fact one claim has been withdrawn solely tofa this :a.coount, the claimant being fully entitled to receive the pension. I do not know who supplied you with the list of names. I have been accused of doing so. This, so far as I am concerned, is quite impossible, ag I do not possess a list of the claimants living in the Crlccieth District. Officers of Inland Revenue are strictly forbidden to communicate any information or statistics relating to Old Age Pensions to any persons other than their official superiors or to the Pension Committees. I have therefore to request that you will inform your readers that the information was not obtained either directly or indirect- ly through me.—I am, etc., (C. L. BLYTHE), Pension Officer, Carnarvon, Nov. 14. We readily give publicity to the Pension Officer's disclaimer.—Ed.

LETTER FROM MR. C. A. JONES. 1 fTo the Editor of the Herald.") Sir,—I note from your issue of last week that you have published a list of successful applicants for did-age pensions, and, as chairman of the committee, I feel it my duty to give you the following facts:- At the first meeting of the committee ap- lication was made by the press for permis- sion to attend the meetings. It was decided that no hard and fast rule should be made, and that applications for the admission of reporters should be dealt with on each occa- sion when made. The general opinion how- ever was, that when appfliifcations for pen- sions were under consideration, the press should be excluded. Under these circumstances the question arises as to how the information you pub- lished was supplied to you. Personally, I wish to repudiate having given any infor- mation. The cllerk of the committee (Mr. Harrison Morris), although applied to for information, refused it, and the Pensions" Officer (Mr. Blythe) also refused it. It therefore seems to follow that the press could onliy have received the list from one of the members of the committee, and upon this I need make no comment, excepting that I consider it a hardship on people who have taken advantage of the Act. And it may possibly tend to prevent others applying for the benefit of it. I shall be glad if you willi give this letter as much publicity as you did the list.—Yours, etc., CHARLES A JONES. Bron Hendre, Carnarvon, Nov. 19.

ANOTHER PROTEST. (To the Editor of the Herald.") Sir,-I shoud like to know why yo.u have printed a list of old age pensioners when other papers have been good enough to leave them out? I do. not thilik it is at alL right to print the names for people to look down upon those who get pensions. I think every thing should be kept quiet. Some day I expect to get a pension myself, and for various reasons I do not want my name to get into the papers. Tor one thing, ) I am sure everybody I owe money to would give me no peaoe. They would be after me a? if I was getting £ 5 per week instead! of I five shillings.—I remain, etc., TWTHILL.

We are requested by Mr. Harrison Mor- ris, clerk to the Pension Committee, to state that we were not supplied with the pension list by him, and we gladly do so. Mr. Morris was asked by one journal- not the "fherald "—to supply the list, but he refused.

CONSERVATISM IN ANGLESEY WHY DOES NOT A LOCAL MAN CONTEST THE SEAT. (To the Editor of the Herald.") Si,r-Seeing that the great old families, who are looked upon as the county people of Anglesev, all belong to the Conservative party, with the exception of the Stanley's of Penrhois, who have cast their lot with the Radical Party, it seems strange that not one amongst their number feels inclined to distinguish himself as a candidate for Par- liamentary honours at the next general elec- j tion. Whether this is a big mistake, or a I wise decision, is an open question. That the failure which has attended other II strenuous attempts to capture the seat from the Radical Party has disheartened the Con- servatives of their class, and made them resolve never again to fight the seat, I fully believe. Is this a case of "discretion the better part of valour"? But I doubt the wisdopa of the policy of carrying this out to the bitter end and letting the seat go a-begging, and eventually choosing a com- parative stranger to fight for the good old cause. Such a course, if carried out, will spell disaster with a capital D! Now, I must say, speaking not only for mysellf alone, but also for many others, that I cannot but condemn this policy as rotten to the core, and I would strongly appeal to j the common sense of the party to pause ere I it becomes too late, and see if they have sufficient reason for putting the party to the expense of another contest. A majority of nearly 4,000 takes a long time to wipe away, and a more powerful candi- date than Mr. R. 0. Roberts. I can only trust that the party will see the folly of wasting good money on a for- lorn cause—far better give the same for the benefit of the unemployed and their starv- ing wives and little ones.—Yours, etc., 0. H. ELIAS. Plu, HoByhead.

EXPLANATION BY THE CHAIRMAN OF GAS COMMITTEE. (To the Editor of the Herald.") Sir,-The very interesting articles deal- ing with the finances of the Carnarvon Cor- poration which have appeared in your columns, must have done much to enlilghten the public as to the position of the various undertakings of the Corporation, and I, for one, feel grateful to you for the very fair- minded manner in which you have treated the subject. Your criticism of the gasworks is naturally the one in which I am most in- terested, and, permit me to say in the first place, that I am in entire agreement with the policy which you advocate; the general body of the ratepayers should derive some benefit (in the form of grants in relief of rates) from the ownership of the gasworks as soon as the financial position allows of it. But the gasworks must be the first concern of the Gas Committee, and ita the past the committee- has been guided by the follow- ing considerations — 1. The fulfilment of all the legal obli- gations of the committee. 2. The thorough equipment and main- tenance of the works, especially in view of the competition with electricity. 3. To supply gas as cheaply as any town similarly placed and at such prices as will compete successfully with electricity, either for lighting or power purposes. 4. To subsidise rates in times of emer- gency. Each of the above conditions the committee claims to have fulfilled, and their course of action has been amply justified by the re- sults which have followed. Loans have been paid off to the extent of £ 9,072, while renewals and improvements have been ef- fected out of revenue, so that the works are now in a better condition than ever they were, and are more able to meet the do- I mands made upon them. The following shows the result for the 15 years with which you deal:-Gioss profit, £ 23,517 6s 3d; deduct: loan repayments £6,905 7s Id, interest on loans L12,278 17s 4d, contr-ibu- tions to depreciation fund L2,918 2s lid— £ 22,162 7s 4d; net profit £ 1,414 18s lid; contributions to rates £ 406; carried for- ward £1,008 16s lid. The introduction of electricity caused the committee some uneasiness at the time, but that has passed. Had the committee, how- ever, not been fully prepared to meet the keen competition which followed, results dis- astrous to the rates might have ensued. As you say, gas is now being sold in Car- narvon at a lower price than anywhere else along the coast (excepting Lliandudno), with the result ('amongst others) that it is now holding its own in competition with elec- tricity. In your article you deal at some length wit.: the question of the cost of street lighting in Carnarvon. Unfortunateljy for your de- ductions the figures upon which they are based are quite wrong. The gasworks has never, eitther directly or indirectly, been sub- sidised out of the rates. You have assumeu that the whole of the expenditure incurred upon street lighting and shown in the dis- trict fund account has gone to the Gas Com- mittee in payment for gas only. That this is not the case you will see from the follow- ing statement: £ s. d. Total shown in your statement 2975 7 10 Deduct amount paiid to trades- men for new lamps and fittings 187 17 10 Amount received by <Gae Com- mittee 2777 10 0 Deduct Gas Committee's out-of- pocket expenses in maintain- ing, lighting, and cleaning the lamps 796 17 5 Leaving for gas supplied 1980 12 7 This, on the consumption of 13,507,374 c.f., works out at a. price of 2s lid per 1000 c.f. The cost of making the gas last year. including interest on loans, but excluding repayment on loans, was slightly over 2s lOd per 1000 c.f. It is true that street lighting costs more in Carnarvon than in some of the neighbouring towns, but this is because the lamps are lit every night in Carnarvon, moon or no moon, whereas in other towns the lamps are not lit on moonlight nights. Yours, etc., •R. PARRY, (Chairman of the Gas Committee). Carnarvon, Nov. 18.

THE HOLYHEAD SCANDAL A VIGOROUS PROTEST BY A CORRESPONDENT. (To the Editor of the Herald.") S,4,- "Non- Christian" seems to have read my letter very hurriedly. He states that I only make a demand, but give no reason for its compliance. I would urge him to read it again—the reason is given. "Non- Christian-, evidently has a very false con- ception of what siin is, especially the one under notice. He calls it "indiscretion." The Bible calls it adultery, and so do 1. The Bible estimates sin from the standpoint of the one who is sinned against. Would Non-Christian call' it indiscretion iff his own daughter (assuming he had one) was the victim of these men's iniquitous prac- tiÇe? I think he would use a much stronger term. "Non-Christian" also has a very low ideal of hoqiour and justice. He would allow in. nocence to suffer andguilt to go free., He seems terribly concerned lest the fami- lies of these men should be dishonoured by a ditsclosure of their foplishness. But where is their honour in thus being unfaithful to those whom they promised to. love, hon- our, and cherish at the marriage altar? Fea.ring publicity, "Non-Christian" whines like a whipped cur, abojut "honour." He should have considered that before. I know of one business man, whose good name is being dragged into this scandal, a man of character, influence and) position. Must his business, and reputation, and family suffer to hide the shame of these guilty profli- gates? Once more, "Non-Christian" has a mis- taken knowledge of what Christianity is. He assumes that if the men were exposed, Christians would be the chief amongst the scorners, and no church or chapel wojuld receive them into its fold. A more scornful statement never was made. Who are the first and best qualified to help the down- trodden, to raise the fallen, and stretch out a helping-hand to a weak and erring bro- ther? Who have been the greatest benefac- tors of tho sin-cursed and lost? There jis only one answer-the followers of the Friend of sinners. Only let these men. and "Non- Christian" ainong them, manifest genuine ropentence for their sin, and a determination to lead an upright life, and the church will receive them in the spirit of her Master, who said. Yvhosoever cometh unto me I will in no wise cast out." The church exists for this purpose, not tq hide. or gloat over men's folly, but. having probed the wounc!, to lead to the- d-eat Physician, who alone can heal.-Yours, etc., HARRY WILLIAMS. 29, Cambria-st., Holyhead, Nov. 14.

WANTED—A REVIVAL. (To the Editor of the "Herald.) •Sir,—Perhajps the ministers and other re- ligious people who signed the petition against Sunday concerts would be better employed in dealing with real sins. Until the rocentcases of a scandalous nature came irito court we did not hear a word about these condition^ Why? And not one minister have I heard referring to the real sins, although they are all ready to condemn healthy games like football. 'We want a revival amongst our preachers. — Yours, M.L.

A WiaMiANIS VTEW. (To the Editor of the "Herald."} .Sir,—IConlceraing tho recent scandal, I would like you to insert this letter in your columns. the commencement of this wretched case, brought belfore the public by Supt1. Prothero and his officers, the women's names were all freely mentioned. One wo- man who's name appeared, was not convic- ted with the others. Why name a poor wo- man who is more to be pitied, than to be iblaoned ? I agree with Mr Harry Williams that these so-called gentlemen, who are consider- ed respectable citizens, should be publicly denounced. "Non-Christian" seems to think that- married men were the majority. Probalbly they were, but not likeJy. He aeema to jusUify their doings. "Foolish men," he calls them. I think that hardly suite them. Perhaps "Birds o'f a feather" flock together." I am sorry to see that men are becoming so degenrated and. priggish in their habits, as to frequent dens di the nature referred to in your columns some time ago. I, as a woman, feel very strongly on the matter. To thinlk that in a town like Holyhead, there should be sUloh vice and immorality carried, onJ when there are so many? churches and chapels, and so many people attending themi. Some people wear the cloak of religion on Sundays, but it is soon discarded1 through the week. Mr Harry (Williams, in his letter, does give his reasons why the names should be published. He Said in his letter that innocent men were being blamed, just because they happen to ibe in business; also that their evil deeds should ibe published and exposed, to the full light df day, instead of cloaked in mystery as "Non-Christian" suggests. I burn with righteous indignation when I think of th depraved taste of man. As for the wives and children of such loathsome creaturea (they are more to be pitied than blaaned, and it would be righit and just that such men as were connected with these malpractices should be excommunicated from church or 'chapel membership, as the case may be.—1 I am, etc., A WOMAN.

ANOTHER DEMAND FOR PUBLICITY. (To the Editor of the "Herald.") Sir,—All honour to men like Mif. Harry Williams, who defends purity and mor- ality in such a noble and outspoken fashion. It is high time that the names were made public, and why anyone should attempt to shield them I am unable to understand. Names of respectablè men are no.w trailed in the mire and the dirt just to screen one or two others. If a man or woman is guilty of a petty theft, or imbibes too freely, his I name is put in the papers, and why men who commit a base outrage on society should ibe shielded, is past my comprehension. "Who is the fat man? is the question that is fre- quentlv asked at Holyhead just now, and the names of certain individuals are freely branded about. It is simpiy a scandal, and the magistrates ought to have foreseen the effect of suppression in this particular. Let's have the names, in the interest of morality and right-doing.—Yours, etc., ONE WHO IS SUSPECTED.

MINISTER AND TENANT MR J. T. ROBERTS REPLIES TO MR RICHARD ROBERTS. (To the Editor of the "Herald.") Sir,—Although I have neither the time nor inclination to embark upon the contro- versy in the public press, the letter of Mi- Richard Roberts, which appeared in your issue for last week compels me to ask your indulgence for the insertion of this reply in your paper. The long explanatory statement mady by Mr Roberts appears to me to have little or nothing to do with the matters in dispute. But even taking the facts to be as repre- sented by Mr Roberts, and that the Rev J. Pryce Davies instructed him to show the tenant every possible consideration and some Christian charity, I hardly think the subsequent course of events can be claimed a triumph for these virtues. The tenant, on the other hand, acting in the belief that the intervention of one or two ministers of the Gosipel might have some influence with his landlord, induced some of these good men to write Mr Lavies on his behalf. The communication which the rev. gentleman addressed to his tenant on the 8th October, after receiving these letters, wiU enable your readers to form a more accurate opinion of Mr Davies's attitude and disposition than L any ex post facto statements. The rev. gentleman, in this letter, after expressing his great regret that the tenant had compel- led him to send a bailiff to his house, etc., proceed^ thus :—"I am sorry that you have been so foolish. to walk the country to Bee this and that preacher, and some of these writing me letters containing absolute un- truths." Alas! the ipoor man was foolish to do anything of the kind, as events sub- sequently proved. WitE regard to the refusal of Mr Davies or his solicitor to accept the Official Re- ceiver's undertaking, and Mr Robert's asser tion that there is "nothing unusual or im- proper in this iprocedure," I invite Mr Ro- berts to give a. few instances where this has occurred. The object of the Official Re- ceiver always is to realise a bankrupt's es- tate to the best advantage for the creditors. When, therefore, the Official Receiver finds that there is distrainable rent payable by a bankrupt who has estate, he invariably gives an undertaking for the payment of the rent in order to avert a forced sale. In the case under notice, the Official Receiver who is a perfectly independent person, says that the course pursued by or on behalf of the Rev J. Pryce Davies resulted in a loss of J350 or so to the estate. Instead of was- ting time to discuss the price realised by individual items in the sale, I would suggest. that Mr Roberts should, if he can, disprove the Official Receiver's statement. After all, it is evident that the main, if not the only, object which Mr Richard Ro- berts had in view in writing his letter was to take upon himself "full responsbility for all that took place," and to "entirely exon- erate" the Rev J. Pryce Davies "from any blanifi whatever with regard to the Official Receiver's undertaking." As to this I cannot do better than place in parallel col- lumns some of Mr Roberts's disavowals on his client's behalf, and Mr Roberts's letter to the Official Receiver of the 16th nit., when he returned the lattex'a tmdertaking, and then leave your readers to decide what value to attach to the one or the other.

DISAVOWALS. COPY LETTER. I take full responsi- Re J. G. Priichard, bility." "My client was Tyddyn Heil> J, quite ignorant as to what Rhostryfan. was taking pace," "he I am in receipt of had no knowledge of the vtdertaking herein, but Official Receiver's under- my client's instructions taking having been re- are definite, and under turned." "There is no the circumstances 1 atn blame to attach to Mr not able to accept the Davies or any one in this same, and I \e sale must matter, and if there were, piccied as advertised. I am responsibe for every- I am returning the th ng that was done." undertaking. Yours faithfully, Rich. Roberts. Mr Roberts thinks that he hag scared heavily in making the discovery that the Caivinistic Methodists have no Sustentation Fund and that, therefore, the observations made' a.t the public examination anent the fund are groundless. The fact is that the fund I had in my mind is the "Ministers' Fund," and it is from this that the Rev J. Pryce Davies has been drawing money. There are other points, of minor impor- tance in Mr Roberts's letter which I should like to notice, but time will not permit, and with this letter my share in this unpleasant business comes to an end. as I hope to leave for the Continent next week.—Yours, etc., J. T. ROBERTS. Carnarvon, 18 November. ♦ —

MR RICHARD ROBERT'S REJOINDER (To the Editor of the "HeraldL") Sir,—In his reply to my letter in a con- temporary, Mr. J. T. Roberts states that there are a few points which he requires me to expliain, and as Mr J. T. Roberts is going on the Continent next week, I hasten to do so now, in order that I may not be accused oi taking advantage of his absence. As far as Mr. J. T. Roberts and myself are concerned, the whole transaction is of a very trivial importance, but in reflation to the character and status of the Rev. J. Pryce Davies it is of the utmost gravity for him that he has done nothing to merit the condemnation and abuse to which he has been, and is continued to be, subjected to. On the 9th of October the Rev. J. Pryce Davies wrote to me as follows:—" If the bailiff does not get the money asked for (£20 of £24) by Saturday noon, you had better withdraw him from Tyddynheilyn. I do not wish to sell him up, as he says now, if he will have a month's time to realise his crop, that he can pay all that will be due; summon him to your office at your earliest convenience." The tenant callted as requested, and in- formed me that he could not pay anything, and ordered me to proceed to sell at once, as no one was willing to give him any assist- ance whatever. Under the circumstances, what was I to do? When the safe was ad- vertised, and posters out, the tenant goes to Mr. J. T. Roberts in order to file his petition in bankruptcy, and so rill himself of all his debts. I am challenged by Mr. J. T. 'Roberts to prove that by refusing the undertaking of the Officiali Receiver that there is nothing unusual or itmproper in this procedure. I can only reiterate what I have stated. It is obvious that it would be most improper for me to give instances, but I may say that in a similar case iln which I acted about a month ago, where the landlord had dis- trained, the Official; Receiver directed the landlord's auctioneer, after he had realisedi what was due to the landlord for rent and costs, to proceed with the sale on behaBf of the Official Receiver for the benefit of credi- tors. The undertaking is also a conditional one (" without prejudice to the rights of preferential creditors under the preferential payments in the Bankruptcy Act, 1888"). I have always accepted) the undertaking in eases where the landlord had not cJfstrained for his rent, and the sale not advertised. My authority, that the course adopted is usual and proper, is Woodfalls' Law of Land- lord' and Tenant," 17th edition. It is not suggested that the tenant has lost anything bv my not accepting the undertaking. If the things were sold under value, which I a&solutely repudiate, the creditors would have suffered, and not the tenant. The items have been suppliied to the Official Re- ceiver. and he has not made any complaint to me that anything was sold under value. Is not a sale by the Official Receiver a "forced sale"? And did he not continue the salie until everything was disposed of in this instance? What about the Ministers' fund?" I am informed that this is a fund which is subscribed to. by ministers of the Caivinis- tic Methodist denomination for the purpose of draw in 2: upon it in case of sickness, com- pelling them to cease work, similar to assur- ances for accidents, etc. As the Rev. J. Pryce Davies contributes to this fund. is he to be made a martyr because he draws out of it in case of illness? The words of Mr. J. T. Roberts, to which 1 took exception, were. but I shail not be disposed to sub- scribe it in the future., It is rotten." It the Ministers' Fund is only subscribed for amongst themselves, how could J. T. Roberts have subscribed?—.Yours, etc., RICHARD ROBERTS. Palace Chambers, Carnarvon.

APPOINTING AN OUTSIDER EDUCATION COMMITfiyp^ AND THE TEACHERS. (To the Editor o.f the "Herald.") Sir,—Allow rrIo to call the serious atten- tion of all failr-minded persons to the doings of the Carnarvonshire Education Committee. We have heard a lot from its Chairman of the absolute fairness and impartiality cf this august body, but have yet to be con- vinced of the accuracy of such a statement. A few weeks ago the committee adver- tised for a head-teacher for the Llandudno Junction School;, aJid naturally enough, re- ceived applications from a number of head teachers and assistants who have served •» the county for a large number of years. A short list was agreed) upon. Thi's list in- cluded three names—two head-teachers from the county and one outsider, an assistant. To the great astonishment of all, the outsider secured the majority, and is appointed to the headship of this important school. Why? I challenge any member of the committee to defend the appointment on educational grounds. The reason must be found in the canvassing and tremendous wire-pulling car- ried on, although the advertisement statos explicitly that canvassing directly and indi- rectly is not allowed. I know candidates who adhered to this regulation, and are con- sequently penalised by the actions of some members themselves. I sympathise with the teachers of the county as a body, who have loyally served the committee, and who, in return received a direct sIan in the face. I have watched the doings of the committee very carefully during the Hast few weeks, and I put it to the teachers that this ap pointment is the first blow struck by the committee, as a protest against the teachers' agitation. All this is done in the name of Liberalism, Nonconformity, Liberty, and Equality— high-sounding enough, meaningless in the doiíngs of these so-called Liberals. I once again assert that this appointment is a, direct insult to the teachers of the county, and means, if it means anything, that the committee are of opinion that they have no man in the county who, at the present moment, is wprthv of promotion. On the other hand, I am pleased to think that there are many other members who have re- corded' theiir votes in favour of premoting well-tried servants, and I feel: sure they ha.ve the confidence and the thanks of all fair-minded educationists.—'Yours, etc., RADICAL.

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HOUNDS. The Flint and Denbigh Hounds will meet- on Wednesday, November 25th, at Natbn nerch Station, at 10.30; Saturday, Novell her 28th, at Rhuddlan, at 11.0.

BIRTHS, MARRIAGES, & DEATHS- BIRTHS THOMAS—November 9, the wife of MIl Hugh Thomas Ty'ncefn, Blaenau Festiih iog, of a son. PRITCHARD-November 14th, the wife of Mr J. Pritchard, Bodifyr, Tanyrhivc Road, Tregarth, of a son. MARRIAGES EMM—JONES—On the 3rd inst, at tht. Register Office, Bangor, in the presence of Mr D. Griffith Davies, registrar, M* Henry Emm, of BronaUt Terrace, Menai Bridge, to Mrs Jane Jones, of 5, Menai Road, Penrhosgarnedd. JONES—JONES—On the 16th inst, ax uie Register Office, Bangor, in the presence of Mr D. Griffith Davies, registrar, Mr Hugh Lewis Jones, Penybont, Pentir, to Miss Kate Jones, 30, Minffordd, Bangor. WILLIAMS HiUGHES November 14, at Webster Road Chapel, Liverpool, by the Revs W. Owen and Thomas Williams, Capel Garmon, Mr David Williams, Glanrhyd, Llanaelhaiarn, to Miss Elean- or Hughes, Portdinorwic. FAIRL1'E-'HUGHES-November 11, at the Llanrhos Church, Mr E. H.. Fairlie, Edge-i baston, to Miss Anna Maria Hughes, Mos-i tyn Street, Llandudno. OWEN—OWEN—November 16, at St. Paul's, Llandudno, Mr Thomas Owen, grocer, Conway Road, Colwyn Bay, to .Miss Nellie Chant Owen, schoolmistress^ Llandudno THEOBALD—BATH — On November 3rd. Lieut. John Theobald (late Captain and 1. of M. 4th Batt. Royal Welsh Fusiliers), and Sutton Courtney, Abingdon, E'arks., to Margaret Spears Lambert, fourth daughter of the late Edward Bath, Esq., oi. Bryn-y-mor, Swansea.— DEATHS. EVANS'-Novemoor 8, aged seven yearss Mary Catherine, daughter of Mr and Mrs Griffith 'Evans, Glaneiddon, Rhydymain. Llanfachreth. FREEBOROUGK—On November 6th, at the residence of her daughter imrs Wa Evans, Coote Hill, Holyhead) TTannafrj widow of the late Charles Fre'eboroughx of Bombay, India, aged 74 years.— IN MIMORIAM. PARRY—In loving memory of Lizzie, the dearly beloved daughter of Nfxg Hope, 64, Pool Hill, Carnarvon, who died 19th of November, 11899, at iAllfsheton Terrar-e, Carnarvon. Gone, but not forgotten by her Mother and Brothers.

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