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HOUSE OF COMMONS.—THURSDAY, MAY 17. EASTERN COUNTIES RAILWAY ACCOUNTS. During the time of private business, on the presentation of two petitions relating to the concerns of the Eastern Counties Railway Company, Mr. HODSON and Mr. WADDINGTON entered into ex- planations respecting their conduct in connexion with that com- pany. The Land Improvement and Drainage (Ireland) Bill was read a third time and passed. On the order of the day for the second reading of the Poor Re- lief (Ireland) Bill, Mr. GnOGAN objected to parts of the measure, in respect to matters of detail rather than of principle, and suggested various suppletory provisions. Mr. P. Scilopr, approving the principle of the bill, remarked that. it omitted to secure its great object-to provide an effectual relief for the destitute poor. After some short speeches from Mr. OSBORNE, Lord C. HAilIIL- TON, Il-. CAIXAGI-IAN, Colonel DUNNE, Mr. HEKBEUT, Sir. W. SOMERVILL,E, and Mr. V. SMITH, f Lord J. RussELL, 111 reply to Mr. Smith, said, if the poor o, Ireland had been relieved by rates of 8s. or 12s. in the pound and the House was asked to provide for an excess over such rates, it might lead to some apprehension but this was not the case, and an abstract declaration of the law, that the whole property of the unions was liable, would be no security that the people would be relieved. Pie found that the last rate in Ballina was 3s. l§d., and that while in some electoral divisions rates of lis. and 12s. had been collected, in those where aid was required from public grants rates of only 3s., 3s. 6d., and 4s. 2d. had been raised. These small rates had been collected with the utmost severity, and had in some cases suspended the cultivation of the land. Li this state of things there was no way to relieve the destitute but by giving a security and a limit. beyond which the cultivator of the land should not be liable; thereby the fund for the relief of the poor would be increased, while the cultivation of the land would not be interfered with. But the question still remained there migh be unions in which, after paying a 5s. rate and a 2s. rate, there would be an amount of destitution still unprovided for, and Mr. Smith had asked whence the provision was to come. His answer was, that, as a general principle, a rate-in-aid should not. continue in Ireland, and that the maximum of 7s. being found insufficient to meet the amount of destitution would not be a ground of claim upon the Consolidated Fund he thought it would be better to 'leave its relief to such resources as existed before the Poor-law of 1847 than to sanction a national rate, or a claim upon the Conso- l.dated Fund. Lord John noticed some of the objections of Mr. Ilerbert, but reserved his opinion upon others until the bill was in committee. Mr. HOKSMAN considered that the answer of Lord J. Russell to the important inquiry of Mr. Smith was so vague as to leed to an inference that Government had not made up their minds upon the subject, so that the maximum might turn out only a nominal one, and prove a snare to the rate-payer. Mr. NAPIER objected to the principle of a maximum rate, on the ground of its injustice and its incongruity with the spirit of the law of 1833. A maximum rate rendered the local administration of the Poor-law a matter of much importance, and Mr. Napier gave some extraordinary examples of the large stocks of luxuries which even vice-guardians thought themselves at liberty to lay in at the expense of the rate-payers. IFe showed likewise how unfairly a iiitixiDiuai rate would operate upon jointures and rent- charges. After a short further discussion, the bill was read a second time. The Accounts of Turnpike Trusts (Scotland) Hill was read a third time and passed, and the House then adjourned.

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