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CONWAY (continued). CONWAY AND LLANDUDNO PETTY SESSIONS. CONWAY, MONDAY, DECEMBER 3RD.Before the Mayor of Conway (Councillor Dr R. Arthur- Prichard, C.C.), Charles Frost, Esq.; County- Alderman Elias Jones and Councillor Morris Jones. ALLEGED OFFENCES AGAINST THE RAILWAY COMPANY. Titus Ellis, commercial traveller, Ruabon, was fined 40s and costs for travelling between Aber and Conway, without having previously paid his fare.—Mr Fenna prosecuted. Thomas Lever, commercial traveller, 5, Back Mostyn Street, Llandudno, pleaded guilty to travelling between Abergele and Llandudno Junction, without having previously paid his fare. —The Bench inflicted a fine of 40s and costs, but suggested that, in view of extenuating circum- stances, the Railway Company might remit part of the fne.-Mr Fenna, who prosecuted, said that the recommendation would be duly submitted to the Company. Thomas Williams, commercial traveller, Buckley, was charged with having travelled from Aber to Conway without having previously paid his fare, and with intent to defraud.—Mr Fenr.a prosecuted on behalf of the Railway Company, and Mr R. Bromley (Rhyl) defended. —John Roberts, booking-clerk, Bangor, said that on November 15th, for the 1.9 up-train, he booked the defendant parliamentary to Aber, the ticket being numbered 8516.—Edwin Brown Jones,, booking-clerk, Conway, said that on the Bang-or train's arrival he was collecting tickets at the Conway exit-door. The defendant showed a return-half parliamentary ticket (Holyhead to Lime Street) numbered 3249, but the date was un- decipherable. Detective Smart went after the defendant and brought him back to the booking- office, where the defendant gave up the two tickets from Holyhead to Lime Street and from Bangor to Aber. The defendant said that he had no other ticket in his possession. At 3.35 p.m., the defendant came back, and showed the witness the return-half of a winter tourist-ticket issued the previous day, this being available from Carnarvon to Chester. He said that he had given up the wrong ticket previously, because of absent- mindedness. The witness afterwards sent par- ticulars to Detective Smart. Cross-examined, the witness said that he thought that the defendant, on giving up his ticket to Liverpool, said Tourist." The witness did not hear the defen- dant add for Chester."—Detective-sergeant Smart said that, in consequence of information received, he went by the 1.9 p.m. train, on November 15th, from Bangor. The defendant did not alight at Aber. The witness saw the defendant showing a return ticket at Conway, and followed him and brought him back to the station, where the defendant gave up the tickets from Bangor to Aber and from Holyhead to Liverpool. The witness then told him that he saw by the nips that the Liverpool ticket had been used as far as Chester. The defendant said that he did not remember having used the the ticket previously, and, in answer to a question, said that he had no other ticket. Cross-examined, the witness said that, when he spoke to the defendant at Conway, he had not said to the defendant where the ticket was from rind to. That night, the witness heard from the Conway station- master, to the effect that the gentleman had come to the station, and had produced a return-half of a Chester to Carnarvon tourist-ticket, and had said that the previous day he had been excessed from Menai Bridge to Amlwch. The witness inquired, and found that the defendant had not been excessed at Gaerwen.-For the defence, Mr R. Bromley contended that the offence was not made out, for it had come out in the evidence that the defendant had already paid his fare from Car- narvon to Chester, and no intent to defraud had been proved. His client had, after starting from Bangor, decided to alight at Conway instead of Aber. At Conway, the defendant said "Tourist," and the ticket he had shown was not a tourist- ticket. Later, the defendant found that he had given up a ticket which he had not known he had possessed, and he went back to the Conway railway-station, and had reported the fact at once. He would call the Conway station-master.—John Braggins, station-master, Conway, said that the ticket produced (return-half Carnarvon to Chester) was the one the defendant gave up to the witness, and was a valid one at that date. Cross- examined, the witness corroborated the other witnesses as to the defendant having told Detective Smart that he had no other ticket.— The Bench found that there was not sufficient evidence to convict. CONWAY LITERARY AND DEBATING SOCIETY. At the Conway Literary and Debating Society's meeting, on Tuesday evening, December 4th, at the Guild Hail, Conway, the President (Mr T. B. Farrington, C.E.) briefly introduced Mr John Humphreys {Liverpool Daily Post reporter, Bangor) as the evening's lecturer, his subject being Fairy Tales of Science The Birth of the Moon." The lecturer said that about fifty million years ago there was no moon. Centres of inertia developed in the nebulus congerie of atoms forming the solar system in embryo, and round these the atoms were gradually attracted together into the form of orbs. Among the globes thus evolved was the planet Earth, a molten globe flying tbrough space. The period of rotation, at its fastest, was probably three hours, for should that (the critical) velocity have been exceeded, tangential forces would not have allowed -the atoms at the Earth's equator to refrain from flying apart from the molten mass. The Moon, at an early period of its existence, was near the Earth, —almost touching, in fact and at that time the Moon's period of revolution synchronised with the Earth's period of rotation. The Earth, prior to the Moou's existence, was subject to tides pro- duced by solar action alone, and the accumulative force of tide's action after tide's action, until the Earth (at its equator in a state of critical equilibrium) threw off a mighty fragment, which was the material of the Moon. Gradually, the Moon receded, and the day and the month lengthened. But the month lengthened faster than the day, until the month equalled twenty- nine days. That time had now passed, and the month, though still increasing in length, was increasing less rapidly than that of the day, until the day and the month are again the same length, that length, however, being fourteen hundred hours. At that period, the Moon being- at a very remote distance, another influence will come into play, solar tides being- the only tides possible. The day would still lengthen, but the day would now lengthen faster than the month, and the Moon's influence would again begin 10 come into play. In conclusion, the lecturer expressed, at some length, and assigning reasons, an opinion that science did not come into conflict with religion. After some discussion of the paper, the President moved a hearty vote of thanks to the lecturer. Although the lecture was perhaps a little above the knowledge of some members now, the lecturer's fascinating exposition of his subject could not but have a broadening influence on the minds of them all. Vice-President J. Roger Dawson, seconding the motion, commended especially the interesting manner in which a most difficult subject was explained in popular language easily understood. The lecturer, in briefly responding, said, with reference to an invitation to again lecture on a similar subject, that he had not now the time to devote to the study of astronomy that he once had had at his disposal, but it had been suggested to him that his lecture would be more enjoyed if accompanied by magic-lantern diagrams, making more clear than mere words could do the meaning of such phrases as "centres of inertia." He would be most happy, if they saw fit to invite him, to repeat his lecture on some future occasion, accompanied with magic-lantern illustrations. [Loud applause]. On December nth and 18th, there will be debates, respectively on the questions "Should Members of Parliament be paid for their services?" and Ought Cremation to be generally adopted as the means of disposing of the dead?" On December nth, Mr Turner will open affirmatively I and Mr Robinson will oppose. On December 18h, Mr E. Brown Jones will open affirmatively, and Mr Robinson will follow negatively. SPECIAL SESSIONS. CONWAY, WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 5TH. -Before the Mayor of Conway (Councillor Dr R. Arthur- Prichard, C.C.), and Councillor Morris Jones. THEFTS OF WATCHES William Fletcher, a painter and sailor hailing from Liverpool, was charged, on remand, with stealing a watch, from a Conway dwelling-house, on October 5th last. Mary Roberts, wife of Hugh Roberts, Upper Gate Street, Conway, said that on October 2nd the prisoner came to her house, where he stopped until October 5th (Friday). On the following Monday, the witness, in consequence of something she was told, went upstairs, and, on searching the chest of drawers, found that her husband's watch was missing. The watch pro- duced was the missing one. She notified the police, on October 8th.—P.C. John Griffiths stated that he arrested the prisoner at Swansea on Nov- ember 30th. On the return journey the prisoner told the witness that he had taken the watch because of want of food through inability to get work. The prisoner also said that he would like to get the watch returned he had sold it, for 2s. to a watchmaker at Bangor. On December 1st, the prisoner, accompanied by the witness, went to a watchmaker's shop in Bangor, and asked Thomas Evans whether he remembered the watch he bought for 2s two months previous. Thomas Evans denied remembering it at first, and, on further interrogation, denied ever having seen the prisoner or having bought any watch. The further interrogation, denied ever having seen the prisoner or having bought any watch. The witness, after announcing who he was, asked Evans whether he had sold any watch within the last two months. At first Evans denied any such transaction, but afterwards gave the name of a young man, John Jones (son of a printer), as the name of the purchaser. The watch proved not to be the one wanted, and the witness went back to the shop, and asked Evans whether he had sold another watch. Evans, with an oath, denied either having sold another watch or having ever seen the prisoner. On December 4th the witness served Evans with a subpoena, and he again reiterated his denials, but he eventually said that about six weeks previous he had sold a large Geneva watch to an Englishman whom he did not know. Afterwards in the presence of the witness and Superintendent Harris, Evans said that he had sold a watch to an Englishman three weeks previous. The witness taxed him with inconsistencies of statements, and ultimately Evans offered to bring them the watch if they waited in the shop till six o'clock. The witness asked whether it was the watch wanted, with the name of "Theophilus Davies, Llanrwst" inscribed. Evans said that it was, but refused to give the name of the purchaser. Later, however, Evans banded-over the watch produced, which he said had been sold to him by the man accompanying the witness the previous Saturday.—Thomas Evans, watchmaker, High Street, Bangor, said that he bought the watch produced from the prisoner, who then appeared a respectable man. The witness bought it for three shillings, but the prisoner only received two shillings, that being all the money the witness had. The witness did not keep any register of watches bought, sold, or exchanged, but he did keep a register of watches brought for repairs,, The witness exchanged the watch with John Jones, farm-servant, Bryn Min- ceti, Llandegfan, for a watch and 7s or 8s to boot. —The prisoner, who elected to be-tried summarily, pleaded guilty, and, as it was the first offence proved against him (although there was another similar charge pending), was sent to prison for only two months with hard labor. The Bench expressed an opinion that steps ought to be taken (if possible) to prevent the purchase of a valuable watch for any such sum as two shillings. The prisoner, was afterwards charged with stealing, on November 5th, a silver watch at Bethesda.—David Davies, of Llandegai, an engine-driver in Penrhyn quarries, said that, between half-past five and six in the evening of October oth, the prisoner came to seek employ- ment in the quarry, and lodged at the witness's mother's house from October 30th to November 5th. The witness's mother and a lodger, gave him food. On the Monday morning, the prisoner was in bed when the witness went to work, and the witness's watch (the watch produced, valued 30s) was hanging to the bed-post. The witness missed it that night, on getting back from work. The prisoner had obtained work at the quarry, and was to begin that Monday morning (November 5th) he came to the Quarry, but did not work.— John Beattie, manager to Robert Williams, pawn- broker, High Street, Bangor, said that about noon on November 5th the prisoner came to the shop, and pledged (for 3s 3d) the watch produced, which eventually was handed over to the police. -P.C. John Griffiths (52) said that when he had the prisoner in custody at Swansea on another charge, he found on him the pawn-ticket pro- duced, which bore the name of Robert Williams, Bangor, as pawnbroker. The prisoner, on being charged, admitted taking the watch.—John Beattie (recalled) said that the watch's outside value would be only seven shillings, owing to the fall in the price of silver. — P.S. Thomas Jones (4), Bethesda, said that he readily found the watch at the pawnbroker's, where he was rendered every assistance.—The prisoner, who elected to be tried summarily, pleaded guilty, and the Bench inflicted a sentence of one month's hard labour, to follow the previous sentence. CONWAY BOARD OF GUARDIANS. The following gives a list of valid nominations for Guardians and Rural District Councillors for Parishes in the Conway Poor-Law Union Conway (one seat) Alderman Hugh Hughes (L), and Councillor Edward Roberts (C). Gyffin (i) John Williams, Llechan. Dwygyfylchi(i): Robert Lloyd Jones, J. Allansoii Picton, Henry Roberts, and Richard Williams. Eglwysrhos (i) David Jones, Vaughan-street, Llandudno. Eirias (1): Owen Williams, draper. Llandudno (3): Hugh Caraher, Rev David Davies (Welsh Baptist minis- ter), John Roger Dawson, Thomas Roberts (Clement-street), and E. J. Watkins. Llanrhos (i) J. E. Fincham (C), and J. H. Harrop (L). Llandrillo (2) John Roberts, and County-Coun- cillor John Porter. Caerhun(i): William Edwards, and Robert Ellis. Llanbedr-y-cenin (i) William Edwards, and Richard Jones. Llangelynin (1) G. O. Jones. Llechwedd (i) W. F. Jones. Llangwstenin (i) Rev William Davies (Rector), and County-Councillor Hugh Owen (Nonconform- ist). Llvsfaen (1) Robert Evans. Penrhyn (1) Daniel Phillips. Llanelian (1) No valid nomin- ation. Llansantffrai d-glan-C on way (i) Rev William Morgan (Rector), and County-Councillor John Davies. CONWAY WORKINGMEN'S CONSERVA- TIVE CLUB. A capital two hours' entertainmeut was enjoyed, at the Workingmen's Conservative Club-room, on Monday evening, November 26th, the artistes being Mr W. R. Duncan, Miss Helen Conway, Miss Sydney Phelps, and Mr T. Brown (accom- panist). A large Union-Jack formed a very appropriate back-ground to the stage, on which the three laughable sketches, "A Fair Encounter," Mrs Caudle speaks her Mind," and The Lady Volunteers," were (admirably performed, the programme, which also included pianoforte solos, the humorous duett "Reuben and Rachel" (encored), and (by desire) Mr W. R. Duncan's original and most amusing sketch, The Would- be Elocutionist," concluded with the united singing of God Save the Queen." The large room was filled to overflowing, and the audience was a fashionable one. The interval between the two parts of the programme was occupied by an address from the Chairman of the Club (Councillor Dr R. Arthur-Prichard, Mayor of Conway), who said that, in starting the session with that enter- tainment, let him hope that the Club would be well-attended. He urged upon all Conservatives the duty and importance of not being lukewarm in fighting the various elections. The Primrose League had been ridiculed, but the Liberal League had been founded on its model, and the Primrose League had shown its power in Conway in the recent municipal election. Let each of the Club's members support the cause by regular attendance at the Club throughout the winter season, and strive to be a worthy foe to worthy antagonists. CONWAY URBAN SANITARY AUTHORITY. At the Conway Urban Sanitary Authority's November monthly meeting called for 5.0 p.m. on Wednesday, November 28th, at the Guild Hall, Conway, the Mayor (Councillor Dr R Arthur-Prichard, J.P., C.C.) presided. The Authority is constituted as follows, those present being indicated by an asterisk, the time of arrival being shewn within brackets follow- ing each asterisked name THE MAYOR: [Councillor Dr R. Arthur- Prichard, J.P., C.C.] ALDERMEN (4): *Griffith Jones (5 4). *Hugh Hughes (4.59). *Hugh Jones (5.6). *William Hughes (5.24). COUNCILLORS (12): *Humphre.y Lewis (5.23). C. J. Wallace. *Charles Drover. (5 3). *Hugh Jones (5.6). *M. J. Morgan (5 9) *Morris Jones (4.59). *John Hughes (5201. #Bdward Roberts. (5 5). *R. A. Prichard (4.59). *A. W. Jones (4 59). *J. W. Tosdevine (5.8). *Owen Jones (5.7). OFFICIALS: 'I *Mr T. E. Parry (4.59). Borough Surveyor. Sfc. *Mr T. B. Farrington, C E. (5.10), Saititai-,j tInspectoq- *Mr. D. M. Roberts (5 8). A COMMON LODGING-HOUSE APPLICATION. The Sanitary Inspector reported that he had received from Mr Samuel Blundell an application for him to inspect Plas Ucha' (Chapel Street), with a view to its re-registration as a common lodging- house. The Authority instructed the Inspector to inspect and report upon the house in question. THE INSANITARY HOUSES AT MOUNT PLEASANT. The Sanitary Inspector reported that certain houses at Mount Pleasant were insanitary. It was explained that the houses had been allowed (subsequently to a former report) to become and remain empty under the agency of Mr T. M. Jones, but since the agency had been transferred new tenants had moved in. Councillor Edward Roberts understood that the houses had been condemned as unsanitary, and asked for the minute to be read. The minute was accordingly read, and the Town Clerk was instructed to take proceedings. Councillor Humphrey Lewis complained of insanitariness at Bryn'rhall, and the Inspector (who said that no proceedings had been ordered on a previous report) was instructed to report thereon to the, next meeting of the Council, as the matter was urgent. THE PROVISION OF WATER-CLOSETS. The Ispector asked for instructions as to com- pelling water-closets to be provided in several streets, and on the suggestion of Councillor Edward Roberts the Authority deferred action except in the case of those localities already sewered. PIGSTYES IN BERRY STREET. With reference to certain pigstyes in Berry Street, Conway, the Inspector reported that these were undrained and in a fithy state, and, although more than the requisite distance from Berry Street habitations, were only the thickness of the Town-wall from the houses fronting on the Quay. Councillor Drover proposed that the pigstyes be condemned, but found no seconder. Councillor Tosdevine moved that the owners be compelled to keep the pigstyes clean, but found no seconder. However, on the Sanitary Inspector explaining further that matter oozed, through the Town-wall, from ;one of the pigstyes, into one of the Quay houses on a lower level, Councillor Edward Roberts said that he would second Councillor Drover. The motion was then passed without opposition. THE DISCHARGED WELSH PLATELAYERS. Pursuant to notice, Alderman Hugh Hughes moved a resolution protesting against the Railway Company's discharging workmen because of their inability to understand English, and asking Lord Stalbridge to use his influence to reinstate them. Councillor A. W. Jones seconded. Councillor Humphrey Lewis wished to know whether the allegations could be proved. Alderman Hugh Hughes read copies of circulars directing dismissals of men who could not speak English. Councillor John Hughes said that there had been four dismissals within the Borough, and instanced one case where he would like the dis- missed man to be afforded Corporation employ- ment if possible. Alderman Hugh Hughes said that he would like to add that the places vacated by the Welsh monoglot railwaymen had been filled by English monoglots, some of whom could not read and write. There was such a case within the Borough. Councillors Drover and Dr Morgan also spoke in support of the resolution, which was carried unanimously. The Borough Surveyor presented plans of two houses, on Broad Street, Llandudno Junction, and next to the Post-office. He recommended that they be disapproved, because there would be a cess-pool too near a dwelling-house, namely, within the specified distance (thirty feet). Discussion ensued, in which the Borough Surveyor suggested the formation of a Joint Urban and Rural Area in that neighbourhood. The plans were passed, conditionally on an out- side will, bounding a passage, being made seven feet high, and the passage four feet six inches wide. THE TALYCAFN BRIDGE. The Borough Surveyor reported a conference concerning the plans of Talycafn Bridge, these having been amended by increasing the centre- span's length from 113ft. to 150ft., and the head- way from 14ft. to 16ft. The promoters also wished a further modification, namely, putting the two centre piers 9ft. nearer the Denbighshire bank. He recommended the Council to approve the plans as amended, but not to confirm the further proposed modification so far as related to taking the Carnarvonshire pier further into the river. Alderman Hugh Hughes proposed that the matter be deferred till that day week, for the Corporation to hear also the report of Captain Roberts as an expert. Councillor Morris Jones seconded. Councillor Edward Roberts moved, and Councillor Drover seconded, an amendment to proceed at once, but this was negatived by 10 votes to 4- THE PROPOSED DEGANWY ELECTRIC TRAMWAY. The Authority tentatively approved in principle the plans of an electric tramway from Llandudno (Gloddaeth Street Post-Office),via the Green Road and the Warren, to a point near the Deganwy Castle Hotel. It was explained that the scheme involved a road and public right-of-way from Llandudno to Deganwy, and would be likely to develop the Llandudno Land Company's estate, which had over a mile of sea-frontage within the Borough of Conway. The plans were submitted on behalf of Mr Alfred Dickinson, C. E., Darlaston. A SANITARY SURVEY ORDERED. Councillor Dr Morgan moved, Councillor Drover seconded, and the Authority resolved, that the Medical Officer of Health be requested to inspect, and report upon, the sanitary state of the Borough. STAGE-COACH BYE-LAWS. The Stage-coach Bye-laws were ordered to be sealed. WORKMEN'S DWELLING-HOUSES. The Town Clerk reported that there had been no sanction yet given to the proposed working- men's dwelling-house loan. Councillor Edward Roberts, in an interrogative form, complained that an application, by him, for a piece of land for building, was in suspense until a definite answer had been received as to the loan. Alderman Hugh Hughes asked the Mayor's ruling on a point of order, whether Councillor Edward Roberts could speak on his own case. The Mayor ruled that Councillor Roberts could ask a question on such a matter, and advised him to renew his application. Councillor Roberts thanked the Mayor, and said that he would do so.

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DEATH OF MR WILLIAM HUGHES, PENRHOS. We announce with great regret the death of Mr William Hughes of Penrhos, Llandudno Junc- tion, the sad event occurring rather suddenly at his residence last Saturday evening, December ist. For many years prior to his retirement more than a decade ago, the deceased was (at the Corner Shop ") one of the leading grocers in his native town, Conway, where he was prominent among the Liberals of the ancient borough. He never, however, stood for office, so far as we can learn, until the first Conway School Board con- test, when he was returned as a member of the victorious anti-School-Boardian party. He sur- vived his only son (who succeeded him in business at the Corner Shop)," and leaves a widow and one surviving daughter (the wife of the Rev W- E. Jones, Congregational minister, Old Colwyn). The funeral was a very large one, and took place on Wednesday afternoon, December 5th, when the Conway Corporation adjourned for an hour to enable its members to attend the funeral service in Conway Parish Church, where the Revs J. P- Lewis (Vicar) and J. Harries (Curate) officiated, these two clergymen also conducting service at the graveside in Conway Cemetery. One of the two very handsome wreaths upon the substantial oaken coffin was from the deceased's daughter. The brass name-plate bore the following engraved inscription William Hughes, Died December ist, 1894, Aged 72 The undertaker was Mr John Griffiths, Bangor Road, Conway, by whom the funeral was admir- ably conducted. '1!:ili111!jj¡"œB

Professor Gambler Bolton at Llandudno. Our readers will be pleased to learn that the Llandudno Camera Club have arranged with the renowned Professor Gambier Bolton, Fellovr of the Royal Zoological Society, to deliver his entertaining and attractive lecture (as delivered, by him, before Her Majesty the Queen, at Wind- sor Castle) at the Pier Pavilion, Llandudno, next Wednesday, December 12th. We feel sure that there is a great treat in store for those who appreciate a high-class entertainment. The PaV" ilion will be well warmed, and a special train will leave Llandudno at 10.15 p.m., for Deganwy, the Junction, and Colwyn Bay.

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CONWAY TOWN COUNCIL. At the Conway Town Council's December monthly meeting on Wednesday afternoon, De- cember 5th, the Mayor (Councillor Dr R. Arthur- Prichard, J.P., C.C.) presided, and there were also present Aldermen Griffith Jones, Hugh Jones, Wm. Hughes, and Hugh Hughes Councillors Morris Jones, Edward Roberts, A. W. Jones, Owen Jones, Humphrey Lewis, M. J. Morgan, John Hughes, C. J. Wallace, J. W. Tosdevine, and Hugh Jones the Town-Clerk (Mr T. E. Parry), the Borough Surveyor (Mr T. B. Farring- ton, C.E.), and the Sanitary Inspector (Mr D. M. Roberts). At the commencement of business, and before the minutes were read, the Council adjourned till 3.30 p.m., to enable the members of the Corpora- tion to attend the funeral of Mr Wm. Hughes (Penrhos), a member of the Conway School Board, who had died rather suddenly on the previous Saturday evening. After the adjourn- ment Councillor Lewis did not return to the Coun- cil Chamber, and it is understood that he left Conway by the 3.51 p.m. train. Councillor Wallace called attention to a minute of the proceedings of the Council held on October 17, 1894, which came up for confirmation. It related to the School Board, and read as follows. Proposed by the Mayor, seconded by Councillor C. J. Wallace, That application be made under Section 41 of the Elementary Education Act, 1876, to the Education Department for the disso- lution of the School Board for this Borough at the expiration of the period for which the said School Board has been elected. For the motion 8 mem- bers voted, viz., The Mayor, and Councillors C. J. Wallace, Edward Roberts, J. W. Tosdevine, Charles Drover, Humphrey Lewis, John Williams, and Hugh Jones. The Mayor declared the motion not carried." Having read the minutes, Councillor Wallace moved That on account of this motion having been carried by a majority of the Corporation, the Education Department be petitioned to dissolve the School Board at the proper time, and that the Clerk be directed to lay the whole of the circumstances before the Depart- ment, and to state that there was no show of hands whatever against this vote." Proceeding, Councillor Wallace said that the Mayor twice called for a show of hands against, and, as no hands were raised, he (Councillor Wallace) contended that the motion was carried by virtue of the words of the Act, which pre- scribed the requisite majority to be two-thirds of those present, and voting." Councillor Tosdevine had great pleasure in seconding the motion. Alderman Hugh Hughes I shall ask the Town Clerk did he hear the Mayor ask those against, to vote. Was it not, after Mr Parry had read the words of the Act, and you (the Mayor) had counted the votes, you distinctly stated, as it is down on the minutes, that the motion was not carried ? I ask, did you challenge us to vote ? The Mayor: I will answer you. Alderman Hughes: I ask the Town Clerk first. The Town Clerk said that he understood that the Mayor put the motion for the abolition of the School Board, and eight voted for it, and that the others did not vote. The Mayor I can tell you all about it. Alderman Hughes I can tell you all about it too. I was present at the meeting, and I am sure I am quite able to h "■ 11 and, to see what was carried. This is only quibbling with the resolu- tion. I remember when this resolution first came forward to form a School Board; we had a Mayor who was candidly against a School Board, and I say, to his honour, that, as a candid chair- man, he put the resolution fair and straight. Councillor Wallace I beg to rise to order. I don't think we have any right to go back to what the last Mayor did. The Mayor (to Alderman Hughes) Will you confine yourself to the truthfulness or otherwise of this iiiitiute ? Alderman Hughes: Yes, I will, but at the same time I can't help to compare the gentleman who has been in the chair The Mayor Will you please confine yourself Alderman Hughes Yes. The resolution at the last meeting was just as it is put down here by the Clerk, and I am most distinctly positive that never a word came from the Mayor's mouth asking fo,- those against to vote. Councillor Wallace Oh! oh oh oh Alderman Hughes The Mayor put the resolu- tion to the meeting, and other members here will uphold me in saying that, after the Mayor gave the resolution, he counted the votes, and declared the resolution lost. There was some argument about a two-thirds majority. One,Councillor said we required 13 Councillors, another 12, and another (I suppose to be correct) i r. But, as for challenging the members to vote against, I am positive it was never done, and I maintain that these minutes are perfectly correct and true. Of course, you can pass a resolution to carry out your own opinions, but at the same time you must remember that we are not going to let you do it as vou like. The Mayor Mr Hughes, do now, do- Alderman Hughes We can carry it as well as you. The Mayor: Do just keep to the point, and don't say people are quibbling. Alderman Hughes: I do say it's quibbling. Councillor Tosdevine: Alderman Hughes said The Mayor: I must call you to order. You have spoken once. If you want to say anything, you must put a question through me. Councillor Dr Morgan: I should like to ask you Mr Mayor, do you recollect that you said the motion was not carried ? The Mayor: No, I did not. The Town Clerk said that. Councillor Edward Roberts: I remember the Town Clerk saying that. There is no doubt it was carried. I remember it very well. We are fighting against the School Board, and every one knows it, and it is high time we did fight against it. The ratepayers don't want it, and it is not right for Alderman Hughes to say we are making a lie about it. We fight on the right grounds, and not to hurt the feelings of anybody, but to do the best for the ratepayers. We know they don't want the School Board. We have won the day. and I should like that to be carried on. The Town Clerk: Two members have said that I declared the motion carried. I have no authority to declare a motion carried. Alderman Hughes and Councillor Morris Jones: Certainly not. The Mayor: I daresay not, but I don't remem- ber exactly all that was said; but I will explain in a moment my position. Anyone else anything to say? Alderman Hugh Jones: If Edward Roberts won the day at the time, why should it come up again? The Mayor: The question is, are these minutes correct ? Councillor Morris Jones Were not the pro- ceedings reported in the papers? *1 can find you six it was reported in. I don't know how you get at it. Councillor Wallace: I stated distinctly, as a positive fact, there was no show of hands against this motion. Councillor Morris Jones: I am speaking as to what the Mayor said, that it was not carried. All the papers say the same. Councillor Wallace: I distinctly heard it. The Mayor: I will tell you exactly how it took place. It was my proposition that notice of motion be given to the Education Department to dissolve the School Board. I was asked by Mr Hugh Hughes, whether it was not necessary, in this instance, the same as in another case before us,—the Treasurer of the Bank.-to give notice of motion for the dissolution of this Board. The Clerk answered it was not, that it was a petition to the Education Department that the Board be dissolved. The Town Clerk, at the request of somebody, read the Section of the Act, and, being my motion, you will remember Mr Hughes, I left it to the Town Clerk to answer it. The motion was put to the Committee:- "Those in favour of this motion will you kindly hold up your hands." It is not likely, gentlemen, that I should not ask "against." I do in every case. It is foolish nonsense to say I did not. I asked it twice, gentlemen, and not one of the gentlemen on that side of the table held up his hand. But the Clerk ruled it that it was necessary that two-thirds of the Committee present (he ruled that there was only 8, whereas it required 10)— Councillor Morris Jones Then you did not ask? The Mayor I asked for all against. [Cries of "No, no."] The Clerk: I can't agree to that. What I have got on my book, is 7 for, and 8 against. The Mayor: I ask you again, did any of you hold up your hands against ? Alderman Hughes: You never asked us; and loud cries of "No, No." Alderman Hughes: The Mayor took the motion as if it was two-thirds. He asked for an amend- ment, and as there was no amendment, he thinks it was carried unanimously. Councillor Wallace Chair. Alderman Hughes (from his seat): You can call out Bench if you like. The Mayor Will you sit down, please? Alderman Hughes I am sitting down. The Mayor Will you sit down ? Alderman Hughes I am sitting down what do you want ? The Mayor (sternly) You be careful what you say Alderman Hughes I say-- The Mayor Be careful what you are saying be careful, I tell you. Councillor Wallace I don't think this is very nice. I hope our new member appreciates it. Alderman Hugh Jones It was not very nice of you to raise this question up again. The Mayor The Clerk said two-thirds of those present must vote. I asked for those against to vote. There is not a single time I do not ask "is there any amendment, gentlemen ? Therefore I say (I have counsel's opinion on it) it was a unanimous vote, and I uphold it now. It was a unanimous vote of this Corporation. Councillor Morris Jones Being a new member, and having been present at this meeting, I should like to ask you a question. I have a paper here with Canon Rees's letter in. Councillor Wallace: What's that got to do with the minutes ? Councillor Morris Jones It has a lot to do with them. If you carried it, why did you not act ? Several Members Certainly. Councillors Wallace and Edward Roberts: The minutes are not confirmed. Councillor Wallace We will when the minutes are confirmed we could not before. Councillor Morris Jones: No, you have let an- other man do it. Canon Rees, I believe, has a great deal to do with this matter. [Uproar]. Councillor Morris Jones I ask why did you not act on it ? Councillor Dr Morgan (to the Mayor) You answered my question that it was carried. Did you declare it carried ? The Mayor: On the ruling of the Town Clerk. Councillor Dr Morgan My recollection is that when you saw it was only 8, you declared that it was not carried, that you did not put it against at all. [Hear, hear.] The Mayor: The ruling of the Town Clerk was that it was two-thirds, and it was no use voting. Councillor Edward Roberts Then his ruling was wrong, it seems. The Town Clerk Don't put it that way, please. You asked if it was carried, and I said I supposed a two-thirds majority was necessary. The Mayor: The issue before the Board is, did I put the question or not. Alderman Hughes: I beg to move, as an amendment, that we confirm the minutes and up- hold them. You did not challenge a vote against." I say again positively that you did not, and I beg to move that the minutes, as the Clerk has them in his book, be confirmed. Councillor Dr Morgan seconded the amend- ment. The Mayor: Any amendment? Councillor Wallace: That is an amendment'. The Mayor: Oh yes, of course. The amendment was then put to the meeting, and received six votes, Councillor Morris Jones not voting. The Mayor: For the resolution I see the new member oil the other side has abstained from voting, and I think it would be fair that the two new members on the other side should not vote. For the original motion of Councillor Wallace, five members voted including the Mayor, Coun- cillors A. W. Jones and Owen Jones abstained, and Coucillors Lewis and Drover were absent. The Mayor: That's five and five, isn't it? Alderman Hughes: No, its six to five. The Mayor: Oh! Then the amendment is carried. Afterwards, the vote of Alderman Griffith Jones was objected-to, on the ground that he also was not present on October 17th, but no formal steps towards this vote's disallowment were taken. FINANCE COMMITTEE. The minutes of the Finance Committee held on December 3rd, reported that Councillor Tosdevine was voted chairman for the meeting and Councillor Humphrey Lewis chairman for the year; that the only other members present besides the presiding chairman, were Councillors Wallace, Roberts, and A. W. Jones; that Messrs Jones & Son had tendered at ^3 18s 6d for fixing water-supply for flushing purposes, and Messrs James Roberts & Sons at £ 6 5s, the first-named tender being recommended for acceptance; that the Committee unanimously resolved with respect to the develop- ment of Ty Mawr property, "that the Town Council be recommended to apply to the Local Government Board for sanction to exchange land with Mr Maurice Roberts, and to sanction the sale of the freehold oí the Ty Mawr property;" that the Committee adjourned, till their next meeting, the consideration of a letter from Councillor Edward Roberts applying for a lease of the Shepherd's Garden and Cottage, for the purpose of erecting cottages thereon and that the Committee recommended for payment accounts totalling £ ,275 17s Id. Councillor Wallace said that the debt at the Bank would be nearly £ 5000 shortly. He thought that something ought to be done to remedy that very serious position, so serious that he was going to propose that there should be an extra Finance Committee meeting each month. Alderman Hugh Hughes wished that the Finance Committee's meetings should be held in time to have the decisions circulated with the agenda. After some discussion, Councillors H. Lewis, C. J. Wallace, Morris Jones, and John Hughes, and Alderman Hugh Hughes, were constituted a small Committee to consider the best days and hours for the various Committees to meet. After some further discussion, in which it was explained, in answer to Alderman Hugh Hughes, that the Ty Mawr land proposed to be handed over to Mr Maurice Roberts in exchange, was rather more than what was being received in return, and that the Local Government Board's sanction was needed to the Town Council's pro- posed sale, to Mr Roberts, of the freehold of the land in excess, the minutes were confirmed. THE PIGSTYES. On the receipt of a letter, from Mr Thomas Roberts, Berry-street, asking that he should be allowed to keep pigs, provided that they kept the pigs clean. Councillor E. Roberts moved, and Councillor A. W. Jones, seconded, that pig-owners be al- lowed to keep pigs, provided that the pigs be kept clean. The Sanitary Inspector wished to say, in justice to Mr Thomas Roberts (Berry-street) and Mr Thomas Jones (" The |Eagles") that they kept their pigstyes quite clean. Councillor A. W. Jones asked whether the pig- styes could not be drained into the main sewer. The Sanitary Inspector said that such draining was not allowed in any borough in England, so far as he knew.