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PRESTATYN URBAN DI8TRICT COUNCIL. The Monthly Meeting of the Prestatyn Urban District Council was held at the Council Chamber, Prestatyn, oa Wednesday. There were present Messrs John Jones, J.P. (chair- man), R Davies. W. H Coward, G O. Jones, J. E. L. Jones, Thomas Hughes, Ellis Roberts, J. R Linnell, Dr. Griffiths, with the Clerk (Mr J.I hes), Medical Officer of Health (Dr Lloyd floijci ts), and the Surveyor (Mr W. C- Bell). THE PROPOSED MUNICIPAL OFFICES AND FIRE ENGINE STATION. At a special meeting of the Council held on the 5th of December. plans were approved of by a majority of one for the erection of a fire engine station, municipal offices, and Council chamber, on a site presented to the Council by the Vicar. On the question of the confirmation of the minutes Dr Griffiths asked whether the deed by which the land was conveyed to the Council did not contain a clause that only a fire engine station could be built on the site. The Clerk It is quite true as far as I can remember. The Chairman: The clause is "That the Council will not erect on the site any building other than for the purpose of storing fire engine and apparatus and other tools, the property of the Council, and will not use the site for any other purpose. Mr W. H. Coward said that when he gave the land the Vicar was asked as to whether he would allow another storey to be added to the fire engine station for other purposes, and he replied that he would not only allow one storey but two if necessary, and he did not know how it was that it was not in the deeds. At all events be could guarantee that the Vicar would not offer any objection. Dr. Griffiths said that for the present the clause stood in the way. The Vicar might say what be liked that day, but might change his mind to-morrow. As they had nothing in black and white he proposed that the portion of the minutes in question be not confirmed, but that the matter of the fire engine station and offices be referred back to the committee. Mr G O. Jones seconded, as they would be doing that which was not legal in confirming the minutes that night. He thought the com- mittee ought to have seen to this before making this recommendation. Mr R. Davies: I submit the amendment is tnot in order. The Chairman: It is in order. Mr R. Davies: I quite see through it. The Chairman: Keep your remarks to your- self. You are out of order. Mr R. Davies: Why did not the clerk give us the information at the time instead of keeping it to himself f The Chairman I know nothing about it. Mr Ellis Roberts said he did not think it was right to place the Surveyor to the trouble -of preparing plans, and then after the com- mittee had recommended it to drop it. That 'was the first time for him to hear the clause that was contained in the deed. as he was not tpresent at the time the Vicar made the gift. Dr. Griffiths said it was the business of the committee to have seen that what they pro- posed to do did not contravene the terms of the deed. They had no business to erect property on the land that was not permitted 'by the deed. He opposed the recommenda- tion at the last Council meeting for the simple treason that be did Dot think it advisable to •erect such trumpery buildings, and they would not be of any use after three or four years. For a public building, what was proposed was not good enough. Mr R. Davies thought the Council ought to know that one room in the proposed buildings would accommodate 50 people. The Chairman said that the question of the buildings could not be gone into. He further said that on a legal point he could not allow the minutes to be confirmed. fhe Vicar when he made the gift was under the impression that they would close the path leading up to the Vicarage, and he was afraid he would not agree to any alteration of the clause except on that condition. Mr W. H. Coward said he would move that the minutes be confirmed subject to the Vicar being asked to alter the clause so as to per cut the building. Mr R. Davies seconded. On a division Dr. Griffiths' amendment was carried by 5 votes to 4. THE WIDENING OF HIGH ST R The Road and Improvement Committee recommended that the frontage offered by Mrs Percy co extensive with her property in High Street, be accepted, and that the work be proceeded with at once, the cost to be included in the improvement scheme. The minutes were agreed to. FINANCES. At a meeting of the Finance Committee the Clerk reported that the amount of general district rate l collected up to date was -£695_1:18- lOd. TRAIN SERVICE. 8A letter was read from Mr F. H Dent. in reply to a communication from the board re improved train service, stating that no change could be made this winter as the service was settled, but the question would be borne in mind when the changes we made in the spring. The suggestion regarding market and cheap tickets was in hand- THE SUBSIDY TO PRESTATYN. The Chairman said that at the last meet- ing of the Connty Council the recommenda- tion of the Roads Committee to make a grant of £75 to Prestatyn in respect ot the maintenance of main roads was confirmed. But it seemed lit was uecessary that they should Dame the roads on which it was proposed to spend the money, and he suggested that they should name Meliden Road, and Grange Road. This was agreed to. THE NEW STEAM FIRE ENGINE A DEPUT- ATION'S VISIT TO LONDON: REMARKABLE DISCUSSION. The Chairman said that the Fire Engine Committee had met at his house, and they decided that it would be a great advantage if the committee were to visit the works ot the three firms who had tendered, but not at the expense of the ratepayers. They sent telegram to each of the three makers asking if the firm who obtained the order would pay the cost to the amount of £20; and each had replied agreeing to this. Dr. Griffiths asked how much had it cost the deputation to go to London. Mr W. H. Coward: I don't think that is a fair question; we are not the people who lias to pay it. Dr. Griffiths said that the money would come from the ratepayers eventually for no firm would pay £20 unless they made the profit some other way; What he wished to point out was that some of the gentlemen who com- 'posed this deputation, had opposed tooth and nail the allowance to the previous deputation to London, and they surcharged them to the amount of £5. It was only fair that if this last deputation had any money left after pay- ing the expenses that the firm who obtained the order should have the benefit of it. He pointed out that this £20 was intended to cover the expenses of a deputation of seven, and only fiye went. The strong argument for surcharging the previous deputation was that the allowance of £20 was for four whereas oniy three went. But the gentleman who contend- ed that then were silent now..The first deputation were three days and three nights in London, but this deputation was only there one night and two days, for they slept in the railway carriage when returning in order to save their beds (laughter.) and yet they spent exactly the sum amount. He did not wish to object to the allowance but as one who fought the battle of the first deputation, he thought he would try and get as much popularity out of the £20 spent by this deputation as did the gentleman who made such a fuss about the expenditure of the first deputation. He pro- posed that as two of the deputation did not go that the expenses of the five who went Jbe reduced proportionately. Mr. EllIs \Roberts: We will not object to giving you an account of what we spent if you will pay it. Dr. Griffiths: I want to know what you did spend. Mr T. Hughes The makers themselves offered .f20 and they did not know whether the deputation numbered three or twenty. The Chairman said that £20 was intended to cover the expenses of a deputation of seven, and he thought in all fairness to the firm who obtained the order that so long as only five went the proportion of expenditure in regard to the other two should be returned to them. Mr Linnell said this was the first time he heard that the £20 was intended to cover the expenses of a deputation of seven. Had he known that he should have declined to go as it was impossible for seven to go to London for £20. When in London they were not going to stay in any "mucky pucky show (laughter); they stayed in the best place in London, and whi e there they worked as hard as any man ever worked. Dr Griffiths I don't obiect to you having the money I only want to bring the matter before the public the same as was done with the other deputation. Mr J. B. Linnell: Did you know Mr Roberts that seven were to go for £201 Mr Ellis Roberts: Yes, I knew all about it. Mr Linnell: Why the deuce didn't you tell me then (laughter.) Mr Ellis Roberts: It was the Chairman and the Clerk that made it up. Mr. R. Davies said that Dr. Griffiths had suggested that some members had courted popularity in the opposition they offered to the cost of the first deputation. As one of the gentlemen appointed on that deputation did not go the Council decided to surcharge the three who went £5, and they had never paid I it. When the District gAuditor came down he only allowed a surcharge of £1 14s. out of the £20 that was spent by this small deputation. To say that they were courting popularity in taking care of the finances of the Council was too much. Whatever the consequences he would have the courage of his convictions for he did not think that the public auditor had any right to over-ride the resolution of the Council. He was only a paid servant of the Local Government Board- The Chairman: That is not the question before the meetihg- Mr. R. Davies: What Dr. Griffiths said has led up to it. Dr. Griffiths: I never touched on that question, if ynn wish me to do so I will tala. for a month. What I wish to point is that Mr Davies is in favour of paying £20 to five instead of seven, whilst he was opposed to paying £20 to four instead of three. The Chairman suggested that the Jdeputation should furnish an account and the matter dropped. The deputation then reported upon the result of their visit to the three makers and it was ultimately decided to accept the tender of Messrs Merryweather & Co., for fire engine, hose, equipment, uniform, hose cart, ladders &c., for the sum of £399. A FAVOURABLE REPORT. Dr. Lloyd Roberts thanked the Council for re-electing him Medical Officer of Health, and said he was pleased to say that the number of deaths in Prestatyn during the past year had not been half as many as in the previous year. There had not been one case of infectious disease in the district during the twelve months. The Water Company, he was pleased to say was also making new lfilter beds. VOTES OF THANKS. Mr Robert Davies moved a vote of thanks to the Chairman for the services he had rendered the Urban Council by obtaining for Prestatyn a grant of £75. Mr Coward seconded, and in putting the motion to the meeting Mr Davies wished the Chairman and all present a Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year. The Chairman thanked the Council for their good wishes, and hoped that they would al work well together, as Prestatyn had of late made a move forward. He was ready to fight anyone on this or any other body on matters of principle, but he hoped that he would never find that thei, differences made them any the worst personal friends.




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