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DEE FISHERIES IN DANGER. -.or LANCASHIRE'S DESIGNS. PROTEST FROM FLINT. At the quarterly meeting of the Flint Town Council on Tuesday evening, the Town Clerk (Mr. Henry Taylor) reported that he had received a letter from the clerk of the Lan- cashire County Council as to the Lancashire sea fisheries scheme. The question was whether they should be allowed to interfere with the Dee fisheries, their intention being at the expiration of one month from the 7th Aug. to make applicatioh to the Board of Trade for an order amalgamating the Lancashire and Western Sea Fisheries Districts, and extending the limit of the present Lancashire district so as to include as much of the river Dee as is on the seaward side of a line drawn from Burton's Head across to Connah's Quay. Alderman DYSON Has that been assented to by the County Council ? Alderman T. W. HUGHES Oh no. Alderman DYSON I for one simply say 'No.' Alderman JOSEPH HALL thought this was the coolest attempt that had ever been made to deprive the Flintshire and Cheshire fishermen of their liberties, which had existed for many, many years. (Hear, hear.) Some time ago Lancashire acquired the lower estuary of the river from Hilbre Island to Point of Ayr, he might almost say, by a piece of sleight of hand. (Laughter.) The members of the Dee Fishery Board at the time favoured that concession, but now they saw the evil of it. Lancashire had got in the thin end of the wedge, and now they wanted the whole of the estuary from Burton Point to Connah's Quay. The Dee Fishery Board bad surrendered the best fishing-ground already. This had been a very disastrous season for all the fishermen. It was well-known to most of them that a oonforence was held at Chester Castle, on the 11th May, to consider the amalgamation of the Lancashire and Western fisheries, but it was in reality an attempt to deprive the conservators of the Dee of the whole of the river. As Mr. John Thompson had just stated in his letter to the newspapers, the designs of Lancashire were then unmasked. If the river was transferred to Lancashire, away went the liberties and livelihood of the Connah's Quay and Chester fishermen. The Lancashire Board wanted to collect in subscriptions from the various authorities a sum of X3,400, of which the Flintshire County Council was asked to contribute X56, but of which, he might say, they would never get a farthing; and if the Flint Town Council assented to the proposal, a demand would also be made upon them for a subscription. By their scheme Lancashire pro- posed to police the whole of the western fisheries, with a sea board covering about 170 miles, with two boats. They could see the absurdity of that on the face of it. The Hon. H. Holbrook, of Parkgate, had, denounced the whole thing as a sham. He maintained that the Dee Fishery Board with their present staff were quite capable of efficiently policing the river themselves. If they acceded to the pro- posals of the Lancashire authority, the effect would be most disastrous, and he thought they should be resisted to the utmost. It was well known that there was a scarcity of fish on the Lancashire side, and the fact was the Lancashire authorities did not care so much about the western fisheries; they wanted to appropriate the river Dee. In a few days time the Lancashire fishermen would be tearing up the mussel beds and sweeping the estuary with their large trawlers. That being so it was imperative that the Flint Corporation should do what they could to assist in opposing this barefaced scheme, and he proposed that the town clerk should take the necessary steps conjointly with the Chester Fishery Board with that object. Alderman T. RYAN seconded. Alderman T. W. HUGHES, in supporting the motion, thought the Council should at once lodge a protest of its own against the applica- tion, and ask to be heard at the enquiry, but he did not agree with everything Mr. Hall had said. He hoped no member would think he in any way favoured Lancashire, because he did not..The duties of the Chester Fishery Board were two-fold. In the first place, they were conservators as far as the salmon were concerned, and in the next place they were formed by an Act passed ten years ago into a sea fishery district, with power to frame bye-laws and look after the sea fisheries apart from the salmon. He should like the Council to bear in mind that this application on the part of Lancashire referred only to the sea fishery, and not to the salmon. They did not propose to touch the jurisdiction of the Dee Fishery Board at all with regard to salmon, but only with regard to the sea fisheries. He attended the conference referred to at Chester Castle, when all the representatives of the Welsh counties favoured amalgamation. All Mr. Thompson and other members wanted was that it should be clearly understood that Lancashire, in extending her boundaries, did not come into the river Dee with regard to the sea fisheries. He saw no objection at all to the amalgamation, indeed, the two counties ought to join if only for the sake of economy in saving a double staff. It was well known that a great deal went to waste under the present system. Inasmuch as Flintshire, outside the Dee, had derived very little benefit from the amalgamation, he did not think they should be asked for a contribution, and he did not suppose they would be asked, but the application for amalgamation having been made, he failed to see why they should oppose it, except so far as to make it clearly under- stood that Lancashire's jurisdiction must not come beyond the estuary of the Dee. As to Alderman Hall's statement that it would mean the destruction of the fishery of the Dee, he pointed out that if a Lancashire fisherman at present wanted to come into the Dee nobody could stop him. They knew very well that during the last few years many of the Dee fishermen had complained loudly about the Lancashire boats coming into the Dee, and reaping the benefit of the preservation of the mussel beds and so forth by the Dee authority. He submitted that the latter were far better able to look after the fisheries of the Dee than any outside authority. The proposition that the Town Clerk should communicate with the Board of Trade, inti- mating that the Council would oppose the proposal, and asking to be heard at the inquiry, was carried unanimously. OPPOSITION FROM FLINTSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL. The same subject came before the Flintshire County Council, at its quarterly meeting at Rhyl, on Wednesday, Mr. W. Elwy Williams presiding. The CLERK (Mr. T. T. Kelly) reported having received notice of Lancashire's application, proposing to take in the estuary of the Dee, and over-ride the jurisdiction of the present Fishery Board. Immediately upon the receipt of the communication he gave notice that the County Council would oppose the application, anu the Board of Trade had replied, acknowledging the receipt of the objection. Alderman WILLIAM DATIES (Caergwrle) moved that the action of the Clerk be confirmed, and that they should offer every opposition to the scheme. Mr. SAMUEL DAVIES (Bagillt), who seconded, agreed that they should use every means of protesting against Lancashire or anybody else interfering with their rights in the river Dee. Alderman JOSEPH HALL (Flint) supported the proposition, urging that if the scheme of Lan- cashire was carried out, the river Dee fisheries would become practically non est. He was sorry to say there was a feeling of sympathy enter- tained towards the Lancashire fishermen even by men who ought to know better. ("Shame," and another voice Not in this Council ?") If the County Council were foolish enough to sanction this proposal, they would be asked for a contribution of 956 towards the cost of work- ing the scheme. Mr. T. W. HUGHES (Flint) did not know whether Mr. Hall regarded him as one of the sympathisers with Lancashire- (laughter)- but they should keep their minds clear as to what the proposals of Lancashire were. He quite agreed that they should oppose the scheme so far as it concerned the fisheries of the Dee, and a resolution to that effect was unanimously adopted by the Flint Town Council the previous evening. He did not, however, think they ought to express any opinion on the question of the amalgamation of the Lancashire and Western Sea Fisheries Districts, because it was admitted by the other Councils on the Welsh seaboard that it would be for their benefit, and he did not see how the Flintshire Council would derive any advantage by opposing it. What they should do was to oppose the extension of the limits up the river Dee. Let them confine themselves to that, and leave the other question of the amalgamation alone. He pointed out that the jurisdiction of Lancashire applied only to the sea fisheries, and did not affect the salmon at all, so that Alderman Hall's contention about handing over the whole of the Dee fisheries to Lancashire was not correct. He, however, con- tended the Chester authority were far more able to look after the sea fisheries than the Lancashire authority. Alderman HALL: It is our duty, as the Flint- shire County Council, to keep the Lancashire Fishery Board entirely out of the Dee; they have no business in the Dee. The CLERK The application is to the Board of Trade to amalgamate the Lancashire and Western Sea Fisheries Districts, and when amalgamated to include a portion of the river Dee. Mr. HUGHES, speaking for himself, said he did not oppose the amalgamation of the Western and Lancashire sea fisheries. What he thought they ought to oppose was the ex- tension up the river Dee. It was possible for them to amalgamate and not come up the Dee, and that he thought would likely be the out- come of the present application. Mr. R. LL. JONES (Rhyl) remarked that if the Western Sea Fisheries Board were in favour of amalgamation with Lancashire, he did not see why they should waste their money and energy in opposing it. When the amalgama- tion had taken place, it would then be time to oppose to the utmost the application to appro- priate the estuary of the river Dee. He thought that was the position they ought to take up. Mr. HUGHES said he could not vote against the amalgamation as approved by the Welsh authorities concerned. Mr. R. LL. JONES said he would propose as an amendment that the clerk should be in- structed to oppose the appropriation of the estuary of the Dee. The CHAIRMAN suggested the matter should be referred to the General Purposes Committee to decide whether the whole scheme should be opposed or only part of it. Mr. WILLIAM DAVIES said there were two channels leading up to the estuary of the Dee, and if Lancashire got possession of these, they could take every fish coming up the river. Mr. HUGHES: They have got them now. On the advice of the clerk, it was eventually decided to oppose the scheme, leaving it to the General Purposes Committee to determine hereafter whether the opposition should or should not be confined to the part of the pro- posal which affected the estuary of the Dee.





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