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Holywell Rural District Ccuncil. Proposed Improvements on Cilcen Roads. "WANT THE WHOLE LOAF." A meeting of -the Holywell Rural District Council was held on Friday last. Present: Mr. R. Lloyd Davies (chairman), Mr. Edgar J. Gaskell (vice-chairman), Mrs. Johnson Jones, Rev. I. C. Roberts, Messrs. Edward Evans, Edw. Jones, J. Price, Wm. Wil- liams, Wm. Roberts, S. Reynolds, Wilfred Astbury, D. Hughes, Peter Evans, Edward Davies, Win. Evans, and John Roberts, .with Mr. P. Harding Roberts (clerk), Mr. W. H. Roberts (assistant clerk), and the surveyors and inspectors. CHECKING WEIGHTS. Mr. Reynolds asked what check they had upon the weight of stones delivered on the roads. The Mold Surveyor replied that the loads were measured if there was a doubt about the weight. They had also a box by which they measured and gauged the loads of stone. Mr. Reynolds said it was important they should look into the matter. He had seen loads of stone which he doubted, and he should recommend the Council to look into it. It was stated that though loads could be weighed, there was no weighing machine in the district capable of weighing a traction load. The Clerk said the Surveyors would be only too pleased if some means could be de- vised of checking the supply of stones. Mr Astbury thought they should ask the contractors to guarantee the tonnage, and if they had any doubt afterwards a load could be weighed as a test. Mr. Reynolds inquired if the surveyors reported to the Council the number of loads of stones deposited on each section, and if they corresponded with the number contracted for. The Chairman: The surveyors check the bills and the roadmen number the loads. Mr. Gaskell suggested that the local councillors supervise the numbering of the loads. The Chairman did not agree with the councillors taking such a responsibility. The surveyors and their men should do such work. He agreed that the check should be made, and the owner of the stones should be present. The Holywell Surveyor said he had checked numerous loads, and had found them over-weight. Mr. P. Evans said the measuring box was not used often enough. He had seen many- loads which he considered were short weight. The surveyors should check the loads themselves, and keep a careful check upon the amount of stone supplied. If the stones were laid direct upon the roads they had no check whatever upon them. They had nothing to doubt about the weight of stones by rail; the Railway Company looked after that, and in that regard they were quite safe. It was agreed that the surveyors report upon the matter. •'NO ENCROACHMENT." The Surveyor reported upon the inquiry of the Ysceifiog Parish Council as to whe- ther there was not an encroachment on the road from Ddol, Afonwen, to Bryn Eitlnn. He said that there was a public path over an accommodation road. There was no interference with the path and no encroach- ment made. Mr. Peter Evans asked if the surveyor had been on the road. The Surveyor: I don't report without having seen the actual thing. I was there on Monday last. I inspected the Nanncrch, road. If you have any doubt I ask that a committee be appointed to inquire into it. Mr. Peter Evans I was told he had not been there. The Surveyor If the charge is made, it is very wrong. Mr. Peter Evans: I was told so. It is only fair to say so. The Surveyor: Do you doubt me ? Mr. P. Evans: I only say what I was told. The Clerk: Possibly supplementing his personal visit he made inquiries and that led to mis-conception. The Surveyor: It was Saturday and not Monday last, and I might say Mr. R. Roberts came with me and held my horse while I went up the road. Mr. T. C. Roberts: As the complaint came from the Parish Council, I should re- commend a committee. It was afterwards decided that a copy of the report be forwarded to the Ysceifiog Parish Council in the first instance. NANNERCH ROAD TO WERN MILL. The Surveyor reported that the road from Nannerch to Wern Mill, complaint as to which had been preferred by the Nannerch Parish Council, was not repairable by the District Council. "CILCEX WTANTS THE WHOLE LOAF." The Surveyor reported upon certain pro- posed improvements on Cilcen roads, which it was stated would cost some E35. The surveyor added that this would be recover- ed out of grants. Mr. Peter Evans objected, and asked why such matters could not have been brought when the rates were low. Rates were high, and because they were high it seemed as though they were inclined to raise them further. Their one business seemed to be to spend the rates instead of saving them. Mr. W. Roberts: There are plenty of place-s worse than the Cilcen road. Mr. T. C. Roberts: We granted Cilcen a very generous sum of money only a fort- night ago. Mr. Edward Davies: They are not satis- fied with getting a lot there. Mr. T. C. Roberta: They want the whole loaf. Mr. Edw. Davies: I want improvements in Cilcen, but I do not agree with being extravagant. The matter was referred to a committee to visit and report. "MISCHIEVOUS HANDS" AT WORK. The subject of protecting walls was raised, and reference made to a wall at Lower Calcot near Glanrafon, which cost £50 to build, but which was now going to ruin. The Surveyor said mischievous hands had been at work In one instance a retain- ing wall had been rebuilt three times since he had been in office. The Surveyor was requested to report up- on the retaining walls referred to. NEWMARKET RAILWAY. Plans of the railway from Dyserth to Newmarket, being the extension of the Prestatyn to Dyserth Light Railway, were deposited by the London and North-Wes- tern Railway Co. as a preliminary to their application for the order. HILL CLIMBING TRIALS BY MOTORISTS. The Clerk stated that application had been made for leave to hold a motor cycle trial on the road at Rhesycae on Whit- Monday. In reply to an inquiry as to whether the Council had anything to say in the matter, the Clerk replied that they could not stop it. Mr. Wm. Roberts: They come to Cilcen and very often on a Sunday. The Clerk: It is a matter of courtesy that they make the application. WEIGHING MACHINE AT LANASA. A letter was received from Mr. Bates, of Gyrn Castle, Llanasa, stating that it was the intention to put down a weighing machine at Llanasa, and the most conven- ient, place appeared to be in the angle of the road at the Gyrn Arms, Llanasa. He asked if the Council would sanction the position. It would encroach slightly upon the road, which, however, was broad at that point. He believed the Council had the I power to lay down a public weighing mach- Z, ine, and if the Council would take up the matter it would be much better than that it should be a private concern. Such a machine would be very useful, as there was no means of weighing a load nearer than Mostvn. The application was referred to the Sur- veyor for a report. CLUBROOM PLANS. The plans of the clubroom in course of erection at Bagillt, for the Unionist Club, were submitted for approval on the recom- mendation of the Inspector. The plans were approved. BAGILLT FLUSHING POOL. A communication was received from the solicitors to Messrs. Walkers, Parker and Co., Dee Bank Lead Works, with reference to the agreement as to the flushing pool, and intimating that the Company would not call upon the Council to clean out the pool in the first instance. The concession was deemed satisfactory, and the agreement was consented to. PAYMENT OF GREENFIELD SCAVENGING. The Local Government Board desired the observations of the Council OIl correspond- ence they had received connected with the report of the District Auditor, and the Overseers of Holywell Rural Parish, and Mr. J. Marsden, rate collector, in reference to the special expenses for the scavenging of Grenfield township. An order was is- sued by the Local Government Board authorising the levying of a rate upon the Rural Parish of Holywell, excluding the spe- cial sanitary district of Bagillt. The Assis- tant, Overseer excluded part of the parish of Coleshill Fechan. From the communi- cation it appeared that no copy of the Board's order was received by the overseers of the parish. It was common knowledge that the special expense was to meet the cost of removal of refuse in the township of Greenfield only, and in the absence of any communication to the contrary the rate was levied upon the township of Greenfield alone. No objection or complaint was re- ceived from any ratepayer in the township. A precept was issued for C120 to be collec- ted from the contributory place of Holywell Rural, no reference Vhatever being made to Greenfield. Mr. Marsden formed his own opinion as to the work being done, and al- located the charge upon the township of Greenfield only. As far as reference to the Board's order was concerned, that was a matter for the Local Government Board. If they thought an order was necessary to serve upon the overseers they would have done so. The contention was that there was no authority to allocate the rate with- out an order. The Clerk said he would reply to the correspondence pointing out the position of the matter.

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