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TOWN COUNCIL. Th a The Monthly meeting of the Council was held hr.eBday. The Mayor (Mr. E. A. Turnour) tresided and there were present Aldermen W. t( NV. Griffith, W. Keepfer, Robert Owen, and t>j Humphreys Roberts, Councillors Roger Joh e' Jones, John Davies, A. Lloyd j0 es« D. H. Davies, R. Henry Roberts, Griffith J. Simon Roberts, William Mellard, and ftir Wynne Edwards, with the Town Clerk • J- Parry Jones), the Town Clerk's Deputy -Edward Parry), the Borough Accountant Qfj^Ellia Williams), the Medical Officer (Dr. '°ru Williams Roberts), the Borough Collec- ftyr Edward Mills), the Borough Surveyor tyt John Davies), and the Inspector (Mr. W. llldsor). tTHE HEALTH OF THE BOROUGH, 'n Officer reported as follows — ^fing the past month, ten deaths have ff0 place in the borough. All the deaths are to j? °rdinary causes. Five deaths are reported the 9,8 having occurred at the Asylum during bit\> tnonth. For the same period, eleven births oeen registered, five males and six females, otove numbers give as the annual birth re^eath rates per thousand 20 58 and 18-71 >«ctively.' eie deport was adopted without a discus- j, GRANITE BILL. hUlhe Borough Accountant presented several 1118 9 ded Which the Finance Committee recommen- l9s paid, amongst which was one of £ 239 ^ttar ^ue *or granite to the Gwyddelwern ? ComPany f°r metalling for the roads January until thf end of last week. bills were orders! to be paid. THE GOBLIN I >OTPATH. Cler?' ^.oger Pryce asked hether the Town t)aVj "a<l received a reply -om Mr. D. S. Hin Manchester, with refei ace to the Cun- ^0\y j een °r the Goblin Footp h, which was Vtr tt" very seriOU8 condition. frojjj JSnniphreys Roberts said he a letter the tY^r-^avies saying he would accompany 8 Committee to the place on er Saturday. TJIIE CONDITION OF* THE CASTLE. ^ayrpKeep-fer a8^ed fche Chairman of theHigh- Mth i.^mmi'itee what was intended to be done 0hUr {*e.rubbish deposited near St. Hilary's *ecen+i' Castle. The Corporation had Cr°w y leased this plot of land from the %rj n, and, in his opinion, they should make t0 ^eeP a decent condition. He tane ifheci know whether the state of Bull talked af going to improved. They often high ^he grand scenery in and about Den- of tulnduced 8tranSers t0 visit the town. al°Ug R»iit ° stran s;prs went up to the Castle state. Lane, which was now in a very bad be d^,??a^or sugge8ted that the matter should Kp by ^^e Highway Committee, and eP«er agreed with the suggestion. It SMITHFIELD. RECEIPTS, ^d f(^8i5e?^r^e(^ fcbat the receipts at the Smith- 7s. iii ^lr was *8* 8d., a decrease of fair in 1898. 8 to Mr. Mellard, the Accountant stated that no pig fair was held at the March fair this year, whereas a sum of;C3 was received from the pig fair last year. Mr. Robert Owen So the receipts from the fair proper are really more this year ? The Accountant: Yes. RESIGNATION OF MEMBERS OF THE FIRE BRIGADE. The Borough Accountant reported that Mr. Peter Williams, Crown Stables, had sent in his resignation as a member of the Fire Brigade. Mr. Harry Miller had also resigned his position as engineer to the Brigade. The matter was referred to the Fire Brigade Joint Committee. THE SMITHFIELD WEIGHBRIDGE. The Borough Surveyor produced his plans and estimate for the work of covering the weighing machine in the Smithfield, as sugges- ted. His estimate for the work was;CI5. Mr. Boaz Jones moved, and Mr. R. Owen seconded, that the matter be referred to the Smithfield Committee. Mr. Humphreys Roberts proposed, and Mr. Mellard seconded, that the work be proceeded with; and on being put to the meeting, the amendment was carried, 9 voting for it. THE GRAZING OF GLAS MEADOWS. Mr. A. Lloyd Jones proposed that the grazing of the Glas Meadows fields be let by public auction. A member: By tender you mean ? Mr. Lloyd Jones: No, by auction. Grazing lands in other places are put up in this way, and I fail to see why we should not do the same with Glas Meadows. I believe we would be gainers by going so. Mr. Roger Pryce said he was of the same opinion as Mr. Lloyd Jones. Large farmers and dealers like Mr. Owen Williams, Glanclwyd; Mr. Roberts, Foxhall; Mr. Griffith Jones, Eg- lwyswen; and others, were running about the country like hares after these grazing lands (laughter). They out-bidded the small farmers, and this was continually going on. If the Glas Meadows fields were put up by auction, the Council would certainly be gainers thereby. The Town Clerk said he had received a letter from the Secretary of the Denbigh Committee of the North Wales Calvinistic Methodists' Quarterly Association (the Rev. Robert Griffiths, Denbigh), stating that the meetings of the Association would be held in Denbigh on the 20th, 21st, 22nd, and 23rd of June next, and wishing to know on what terms the Council would let the upper field in Glas Meadows, for the purpose of holding open air services. The Town Clerk, replying to Mr. Roger Pryce, said he had written to the Local Govern' ment Board on the question of the utilization of Glas Meadows for the erection of Work- men's Dwellings, and he had only received their acknowledgement of the same. Mr. D. H. Davies proposed that the field be granted to the Calvinistic Methodists at the same terms as before, viz., £ 2 10s. Mr. Boaz Jones proposed, and Mr. Keepfer seconded, that the land be let as heretofore, namely, as accommodation for farmers, &c., bringing cattle to the town, the same to be charged at so much per head. Several members of the Council objected to this course being adopted, as the sum realised would not be more than £ 5 a year, whereas £ 19 had been received for the grazing as let by ten- der last year. Only two voted for the amendment, and Mr. Lloyd Jones' motion was carried, it being un- derstood that the Calvinistic Methodists shall treat with the future tenant as to the holding of the Association meetings in the field. THE EREOTfON OF HOUSES AND THE BYE-LAWS. SHOULD COUNCILLORS BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY TO OUTSIDERS. LIVELY DISCUSSION. The Borough Surveyor submitted plans of a new house, and additions to the present cot- tages in Wesley Place, which Councillor Boaz Jones intended to carry out. He (the Borough Surveyor) had to state that there was no pro- vision for the required air space according to the Byelaws, but as this would be a great im- provement, and that the alterations mainly affected old cottages, he suggested that the plans be approved of. Mr. Humpheys Roberts said he failed to see how the Council could give this approval in this case. Not very long ago, they refused to allow Councillor A. Lloyd Jones to proceed with his new houses in the Castle, owing to there not being sufficient air space, and they almost went so far as to compel him to pull the houses down. Were they going to treat Councillor Boaz Jones differently ? Mr. Wynne Edwards: I propose that we alter our byelaws, and have special byelaws for houses built by Councillors, and other byelaws for houses built by outsiders (laughter). Mr. Humphreys, Roberts: I submit that we, as a Council, have no power to over-ride our own byelaws. Mi. John Davies: The byelaws have been over-ridden many years ago (Oh oh!) The fact is this. In times gone by-in the time when Mr. Clough, Mr. Jones, and myself were surveyors, the byelaws were supposed to refer to the erection of new houses. Take Hereford House for instance. The yard there is only just two yards wide, and is covered, and there is no water closet. There is the case of Miss Bird's yard. This is covered also; in fact, there is no yard. And as to the height of the Foundry buildings, Mr. Wynne Edwards has been allowed to raise it much higher than the width of the road —— Mr. Keepfer Whose fault was it ? Mr. Mellard Yes yes Who was the sur- veyor at the time ? Come, let us know! Mr. John Davies You be quiet, or I will give you a smack just now (loud laughter). Mr. Wynne Edwards Let us know who was the surveyor at the time, Mr. Davies (renewed laughter) ? Mr. John Davies: Allow me to have my time Mr. Wynne Edwards: Let us have your re- port upon this matter —— Mr. Davies: Just now. I know you very well, Mr. Wynne Edwards (laughter). Now there is the Constitutional Club again there is no yard there. Mr. Wynne Edwards: Don't sit down, Mr. Davies, don't sit down. Mr. John Davies I won't. I shall meet you again. Mr. Boaz Jones I shall withdraw the plans. Mr. D. H. Davies snggested that the Building Committee should visit the spot. Mr. Boaz Jones There is no need. I won't alter them, and I won't spend a penny-piece there. Mr. D. H. Davies said that the improvements proposed to be carried out were much more important than a word or two in the byelaws. Mr. Boaz Jones (warmly): I won't tpend a penny there. The Mayor Then we go on to the next busi- ness. Mr. Boaz Jones: Yes, please. Mr. Robert Owen said it was very hard to deal with Mr. Jones like this. He hoped that they did not do so from any personal reasons. Mr. Mellard It is not for personal reasons. Mr. Robert Owen said he believed that M r. Wynne Edwards and Mr. Mellard had only got up to have a joke with the old surveyor (laugh- ter). Mr. Mellard: I don't think anything has been said that there should be an exception taken to. Mr. Simon Roberts said Mr. Boaz Jones in- tended to carry out great improvements in this place, and that it was impossible to get the re- quired space according to the byelaws. Mr. Boaz Jones having withdrawn the plans, the discussion dropped. Plans of two new houses, proposed to be erec- ted by Mr. Joseph Bartley in Panton Hall were also submitted; and the same objection applied to these. It was decided that if Mr. Bartley should find the requisite space and carry out the work to the satisfaction of the Surveyor, that the plans be passed. THE STEAM ROLLER. Mr. A. Lloyd Jones asked whether it was true that the steam roller had gone to the wall that morning (laughter). The Surveyor said it went on the footpath, but he was glad to say that what might have been a very serious accident had been averted. THE LETTING OF THE SMITHFIELD FOR SHOWS. Mr. Roger Pryce asked the Surveyor had he received applications from Mr. Coilins, show proprietor, for the use of the Smithfield. The Surveyor: No, sir. Mr. Pryce put the same question to the Town Clerk, and received a reply in the negative. Proceeding, Mr. Pryce said he would advise that Messrs. Collins be informed that the Horse Market was to be let at the usual terms. The Town Clerk stated that the man who had applied was named Farrell, and not Collins. The Council were of opinion that it was not necessary to inform these people of the terms, I and the matter dropped. RATES. THE EDUCATION OF COUNTRY CHILDREN. The next business was to receive and adopt estimates for General District and Borough Rates for the halt year ending 30th of Septem ber next, and a Cemetery Rate for the half year ending 31st of March 1900. The Town Clerk said that the estimate for the General District Rate for the half year had been submitted to the Finance Committee, and the different items had been checked with those of the corresponding six months of last year. The only item that need be put before the Council were the question of highway expen diture. The Committee suggested that the amount to be provided for this be 9650 in res- pect of the half year. The sum of E150 was put down for the lighting of Denbigh and Henllan, which was the same amount as last year, and also an item of £132 4s. lOd. had been included, which was meant to meet the deficiency on the Smithfield account, and this would be the last time this item would appear in the estimate, as the amount was being wiped off. Last year the sum estimated on this account was £ 200. The remaining items were for the repayment of loans. With reference of the receipts, the es- timates were as follows :—From Glas Meadows and the Smithfield, EIOO water, £50; main roads, half of the grant of £ 475 received from the County Council, and half of the Medical Officer and Inspector's salaries, which would amount to £45. This would make a total of E432 10s., which deducted from the sum of E2,017, estimated expenditure, would leave 91,584 4s. 6d. to be provided for. A rate of Is. 6d. in the £ would produce EI,500, and it had been suggested by the Finance Committee that a rate of Is. 8d. be levied, as against Is. 6d. this time last year. Mr. R. Henry Roberts What is the cause ot the increase ? Is it the roads ? The Town Clerk: Yes. On this account a sum of f,650 is put down, as against 9400 last year. Mr. Boaz Jones proposed a rate of Is. 7d. Mr. John Davies seconded. Mr. Mills, the rate collector, said a rate of Is. 7d. would be barely sufficient, and that in all probability a heavier rate would have to be made the next half year. Mr. Wynne Edwards proposed that a rate of Is. 8d. be levied. Mr. Keepfer seconded. Eight voted for the Is. 8d. rate, and seven in favour of Is. 7d. and a rate of Is. 8d. was therefore agreed upon. The Town Clerk said that the amount re quired in respect of the Cemetery was £100, which was the same as last year, and this would mean a rate of lid; and this was agreed to. As to the Borough Rate, the Town Clerk ex- plained that this had not been initialled by the Finance Committee, for the reason that they had left the amount required for the repairs of the Market Hall roof blank. The Council, therefore, would have to decide what amount they proposed to spend upon this work, before the estimate was made out. Mr. Wynne Edwards Does this estimate in- clude the School Board precept? The Towa Clerk: Yes. Mr. Wynne Edwards How much is it? The Town Clerk E440 for the half year, as against f425 last year. Mr. Wynne Edwards: I saw in the North Wales Times a very glowing account of how the children were educated in our schools in the borough. It was mentioned that children came from all kinds of places, such as Prion, Llan- rhaiadr, etc., to the Denbigh Board Schools, and I should like to know whether these child ren are educated at the expense of the Denbigh ratepayers, and whether it is our duty to pay for the education of children from the outlying parishes, and whether this matter ought not to be ventilated before this rate is agreed upon. I do not know why we should pay for the edu- cation of children outside the borough at all. The Mayor I did not know we were. Mr. Wynne Edwards But there were very glowing accounts in the North Wales Times on the matter. The Clerk of the School Board is here, and he will be able to tell us. Mr. R. Humphreys Roberts I don't think you can help yourselves. If the School Board tell you that they require so much, and if you say you won't levy the rate, their only remedy is to appoint a commissioner to levy it for you, and to charge his commission to the rates (laughter). Mr. Wynne Edwards: We have a right, if we find the money, to know whether the money is properly expended or not. Mr. Humphreys Roberts: The fact that a few children do come from the country to the Board Schools does not effect the expenditure at all. It rather benefits the ratepayers, because we get a grant in respect of these children (hear, hear). Their coming here does not necessitate the appointment of extra teachers or the pro- vision of extra buildings, and we get a grant of £1 or more for every child that comes in. Mr. Wynne Edwards: A return is sent in that every child cost so much per head, and the more children we have, the greater expense it will be. I should like to know how is the ex. pense greater lately, unless it is because of these children coming from the outlying dis- tricts to be educated at our expense. I think the attention of the School Board, should be drawn to the matter, because I don't think it fair that we, as ratepayers in Denbigh, should educate the children from other parishes. Mr. Humphreys Roberts: I may safely say that when the School Board find that the num- ber of children who come from the outlying districts affect the buildings, or require extra accommodation, then they will at once take action. Mr. Wynne Edwards: Mr. Humphreys Ro- berts is avoiding my point. If we as a borough have to contribute towards the education of the children, why don't other parishes from which the children are brought also contribute. Why should Denbigh parish contribute to make up the grant, and not the parishes from where the children come. Mr. R. Owen Mr. Wynne Edwards was a member of the Board a short time ago, and the same thing happened then. The Mayor There is no doubt that this mat- ter of 9440 cannot be questioned. It has to be provided for, and we must do it. Mr. R. Humphreys Roberts then proposed that the sum of £100 be included in the esti- mates to cover the expense of repairing the Market Hall roof. This was agreed to, and the total amount of the sum required came to 9567, making a rate of 4Jd. in the 9, which was the same as last year. On the motion of Mr. Boaz Jones, seconded by Mr. A. Lloyd Jones, a rate of 4Jd. was agreed to. THE APPOINTMENT OF OVERSEERS. The following persons were appointed as overseers for their respective parishes :-Den. bigh Mr. R. E. Hughes and Mr. David Knowles. Henllan Mr. Rees Williams, Ala- vowlia; and Mr. J. Ll. Williams, Brynllyfanen. Llanrhaiadr (urban) Mr. John Thomas Jones, Derwen Gomel; and Mr. William Jones. THE BREACH OF THE SMITHFIELD BYELAWS. In consequence of a report having been re- ceived from P.C. Lewis, it was decided to take legal proceedings against a farmer for exposing a horse for sale in the streets on the day of the last fair. INSPECTOR OF NUISANCES. A letter was read from the Local Govern- ment Board sanctioning the appointment of the Inspector for a period of three years. THE SURPLUS LAND AT GLAS MEADOWS. The Town Clerk informed the Council that he had communicated with the Local Govern- ment Board, asking for their permission to utilise the surplus land at the Smithfield for the erection of houses for Working Classes, but he had only received in reply a simple acknow- ledgement of his letter. RUBBISH PIT. Colonel Heaton wrote giving permission to the Council to use the old mine shaft above Coppy as a place to deposit rubMsh. HYDRANTS. A letter was read from the Secretary of the Water Company informing the Council that the directors would see to the rising of certain hydrants in the streets as soon as possible. DAMAGE CAUSED TO PIPING BY THE STEAM ROLLER. Another letter was read from the Secretary of the Water Company, in which he stated that hitherto the pipes of the Company had resisted ordinary weights, including heavy caravans, etc., and for all fractures resulting from the use of the roller, the directors would hold the Council liable. The Company had claims against the Council for fractures, antecedent to their letter, and proposed to send particulars of the same when the work of the roller for the season might be at an end. With reference ro re-instatement of the roads, in case any such re-instatement was caused by any act of the Company, and if the roads could not be re in- stated without the use of the roller, the Com- pany were willing that the expense should fall upon them. THE HOUSING OF THE WORKING CLASSES. On the motion of the Mayor, seconded by Councillor Roger Pryce, the Council unani- mously adopted the following recommendation of the Housing of the Working Classes Com- mittee:—'That application be made to the Local Government Board for permission to utilise one of the GlaB Meadows (where the iron house is now placed) as a site for the erection of workmen's dwellings under Part 3 of the Housing of the Working Classes Act 1890.' THE PROPOSED PUBLIC HALL. It was reported by a Committee of the whole Council, that the Surveyor submitted a plan and estimate of the cast of the conversion of the Assembly Rooms and portion of the But. chers' Market into a large public hall; and after consideration thereof, it was resolved That under all the circumstances, the scheme be de- ferred for the present, and the Surveyor be in- structed to report to the Market Committee upon the condition of the present roof of the Butchers' Market.' The report was adopted without discussion. FOOTPATHS AND BRIDGES. The Highway Committee recommended that a new footpath be constructed in front of Clif- ton Terrace, Townsend, on the understanding that the various owners agree to carry out any work inside their gateways, but that the con- struction of the footpath from the corner of Mr. Johnson's shop to Glandstone Villas, and the footpath in front of Pigott Villas be de- ferred for the present. With regard to Derwen Gomel Stream, it was recommended that in preference to carrying out the larger scheme, the Surveyor's alternative suggestion of widen- ing the present outlet of the stream after it crosses the road be adopted, the estimated cost being;E5. As to the Pandy Streams and the proposed, bridges, the Committee recommended that the Council offer to pay one-fourth of the cost of such bridges (such portion not to exceed 9100), that the St. Asaph (Denbigh) Rural Dis- trict Council be asked to contribute one-twelfth, and the County Council to pay the remainder of the expense, and to carry out the work. The Denbigh Town Council to retain the right to carry their water main across or under the proposed bridges, and to do all things necessary for that purpose. It was also recommended that to enable the Council to ascertain the pro- bable cost of working the steam roller, the County Council be asked to renew the contract in respect of maiu roads within the borough for twelve months, at the same sum as under the existing contract, viz., £ 475. The report was agreed to. INADEQUATE ACCOMMODATION AT THE RAILWAY STATION. The Railway Facilities Committee recom- mended that the Town Clerk be instructed to ask each member of the Committee to forward any suggestions they may wish to make with the view of rectifying the inadequate accom- modation for passengers and goods traffic at the railway station, so as to enat)le him to draw up a petition to the Company on the matter. There was no discussion on the report, which was unanimously agreed to.

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