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C- COWLYD WATER BOARD. CHARGE AGAINST LLYSFAEN REFUTED. EXPENDITURE ON EXPERT r-VIDEItICE. NEW MAIN CONSTRUCTION DISCUSSED. Mr Joseph Dicken presided over a meeting of this Board on Friday. There were also present: Dr R Arthur Prichard, Messrs Geo. B'van, Hugh Hughes, D. 0. Williams, Hugh Owea, John Williams (Conway) Ed. Roberts, J. W. Rnynes, R. Robert. with the Clerk (Mr T. E. Parry), the Assistant Clerk (Mr Isaaa LI. Parry), the Aaais'-alH Engineer (Mr Charles Far. tinglon), the Waterman (Mr Whallfy), the Engineer to the Colwyn Bay Urban District Counci] (Mr Wtliium Jones, M.Inst.C.K.), and the Surveyor to the Gun way Rural District Council (Mr Levi John). Mr lL S. Chamberlain, Solicitor to the Board, was also in attendance. EXPERTS' FEES. A sub-committee reported perusing the following Jegal and other bills in connection with the promo- tion of the new water main scheme for Ootwyn Bay:- Messrs Chamberlain and JohnsOn, <513 4s 5d Messrs Chamberlain and Johnson and Hartrop, ElllO 128 2d; Dr. Mill, R98 15s 4d Mr Otto Heluier, tlll 5s Od; Mr William Jones, i'16 16s Od Messrs T. and C. Hawksley, JEM Is Oil Messrs H. Rofe and Son, C369 igs Od Messrs T. B. Farrington and Son, X526 19s 2d; Messrs George Falkfler and SOilS dM3 16s 6d; Messrs Cook and Hamond, S,27 4s Od. 4p The recommendation that Dr. Mill he asked to accept SO guineas in settlement of his claim; Mr Otto Helmer, ."o guineas; Messrs H. Rofe and Son, JE300, and Messrs T. Z. Farrington and Son, 490 guineas. In answer to Mr Hugh Hughes the Clerk said neither of the parties referred to with regard to reduced feffi had been communicated with because the com- mittee's minute had not been confirmed by the Board. Mr J. W. Ravne.s: These come to about £300() in all. I think the solicitors' costs should be taxed. The Clerk They must be taxed; we cannot helt- Burselves. Mr Raynes: I notice that in this list there are two accounts from Messrs Chamberlain and John- son, There was only one before the committee. The Clerk: No, -both were there, sir. Mr Raynes I don't remember se-ing two-only the one for XIIOO. The one for £ 543 nf-ver came before the committee. Mr Chamberlain remarked that Mr Raynas had made up the total to be £ 3000 at the committee meeting, 80 that hoih accounts must have been before them 'before lie could arrive at thai, figure. I The Chairman said there was no doubt but that there were two bills before the committee from the solicit.ors because he distinctly remembsred seeing them, though he could not be certain what their am- ounts were. The accounts were approved subject to the usu9Si taxation. THE RAINFALL. The Engineer reported that the rainfall for the month of October was 2.80 inches, against 11.50 inches in the. corresponding month of 1907, being a decrease of 8.70 inehes. The rainfall to the end of the month *as 36.34, against 52.30 inches for the sinie period of last year, being an increase of 4.04 inches. The take was overflowing during the early part of the month, the maximum being 1 inch on the lat and 5th, but it was below overflow for the greater part of the month, the maximum being 7 inches on the 26th. Rain fell on G days, against 18 days in the same month last year. THE NEW MAIN. Owing to good weather conditions the Engineer je- £ r>rteu satisfactory progress has bivn made with the faying of the duplicate line of 15-inch mains under the river Oonway. The total number of pipes Said to dat« between manholes is 21, viz., 14 on tbe Haenan side and 7 on the Dolgirrog side, leaving S more pairs to be iaid. Mr Raynes stated that various statements were made outside with reference to the construction of the main, and he would be glad to hear from the Assistant Engineer how the work was carried out under the river, and whether there was any danger that the pipes could be dislodged. Mr Farrington replied that at certain points the pipes were placed ISft deep, while at others they were 8ft be-low. They were laid on a concrete bed 12 inches thick. Mr Raynes asked whether it was true that the bottom of the river was "in a filthy condition," as reported. The Assistant Engineer: No; We have had a gravel bottom and there is a good foundation. The Chairman said he had been to see the work and lie could bear out what Mr Farrington had said. Mr Chamberlain reported that the Llandudno pipes had been down under much the same conditions for about thirteen years and with the exception of the bursting of a pipe on the river bank there had been nothing wrong with them during the whole of that time (hear, hear). Mr R .ivnes said he merely wanted to be able to re- assure people who questioned him on that matter. Mr Edward Roberts asked what was the position of e Board with reference to the extra expenditure entailed in consequence of the delay in completing the ccti tract. Did the contractors understand that they were months over the prescribed time? The Chairman: Yes; we all know that. Mr Roberts added that the contract was "a very long-winded one" (laughter) and the Board should surely draw a line somewhere. They should recollect that tii-re were men employed by the Board, quite apart from the contractor, whose engagem oat contin- ued for a much longer period than they had origi- nally estimated. The Chairman, said the Board were well aware ol the position and they had done all they could to lego the work on. Mr Edward Roberts: Very little result I see. The d of this will be a very funny one (laughter). Dr. Ili-icliard pointed out that the original scheme was that the work should be carr; lout by means of a culvert, but since then their plans had bora changed. Mr John Williams said he doubted whether it would 'not- be wise to adopt the culvert scheme even now (laughter), j After sume further discussion the matter dropped. SCARCITY OF WATER AT PENJiHTVSIDK. Mr n. Roberts called attention to the scarcity of water at Penrhynside and suggested that the Board fixed a water meter between Ll.ingystenin and Pen- rhynside so that a proper check could be made of the amount of water actually delivered into the lat- ifii parih. Mr Raynes We have no power to place a meter there? -The Clerk The Conway Rural District Council have. The Clerk read a letter from the hitler authority Requesting tho Board to take steps to ensure that a feead of 1.0 pounds of water he provided at Penrhyn- gide at least on two days a h. A short discussion followed .d it was eventually aocided to recommend the Rural District Council to fix the meter as suggested by Mr Roberts. CHARGE AGAINST LLYSFAEN REFUTED. The following report was received from the Engin- ftr: "With reference to the instructions received at your last meeting, I now beg to report as follows re- garding the pumping operations at Llysfaen and my inspection of the district respectng the letter received Crom Mr Levi John on September 9th, and my reply thereto of the 10th September. The following are Copies of the letters referred to — Dear sir,-Un(ler the existing arrangements, por- tions of Llysfaen Parish are without water for some bours daily. Although the hours of pumping have been increased from an average of 38 hours per week to 65 hours the supply is still short, and if this continues during the present week I have received instructions to re- place the reflux valve at Voryn Isaf.—Yours faith- fully, L. John. "Dear sir,—In reply to your letter of yesterday, I cannot understand where all the water is going to, (There must be some serious waste or leakage some- where and I shall therefore be obliged if you will have the reflux valve refixed as Boon as possible.— Sours faithfully, T. B. Farrington.' "Taking the pumps as being capable of lifting at a minimum 5,000 gallons per hour, this would represent es the increase of pumping hours given by Mr John a total of 135,000 gallons per week over the average vvtier, the reflux valvi was fixed at Voryn Isaf. This 135,000 galims per week represents a daily water sup- ply for !1-'O people at 20 gallons per head per day, and as there were only 20 houses brought into the area by taking out the reflux valve and which would only mean a supply required for 100 people, this at 20 talluris per bead, per day, would amount to 2,000 pilous per day, or 14,000 gallons per week. Although I bare carried out close inspections of the whole ol JhG Llysfaen district and have had excavations lBvried out on mains leading into Colwyn Bay jutd which I thought might have diverted the vater when the reflux valve wam taken out, I have feet been able to find out the cause at that time of 60 mormons fucreue in -the amount of water pumped, a 'il!lnnce of 421,000 gallons per week. Mr Kaynea IBId that at the previous Board meeting It hM: betm reported by the Assistant Engineer that e r,¡." a aextous waste of water at Llysfacn, and to pnitnhjcd do bring a further report on the mat- 4pr to ifeat meeting. Where was the wastage relaxed lb art V An no tmf, had II been stopped? The Assistant Engineer replied that his report had been already given, but it a not in his jurisdiction to giv; further particulars. Mr Raynes If that is s-i, for what reason did you send the Clerk of Works from Dolgarrog over to our parish to try and find the leakages? The Assistant Engineer: It is in our report here. Mr Raynes: But if you make a report like that you must to-day tell us where those leakages are. The Assistant Engineer said that the inspection car- ried out at Llysfaen was just like that carried out in other parts of the district. Attention had been drawn to leakages and it was his duty to try and locate them. Mr Raynes proce-eded to say that since insinuations had been made by the Assistant Engineer at the pre- vious Board meeting that there was a serious wastage of water at Llysfaen, a report in proof of his statement should have been produced. He (the speaker) again maintained that there were no leakages at Llysfaen; the Llysfaen people had been trying to find them, but in vain. It had also been said that there was a large consumption of water at Llysfaen. From the water meter tables for Octobei, it would be seen that Llysfaen had been using an average of 72,000 .gallons p&r day during October, as against 44,000 during the corresponding period last year. The explanation of the difference was that the meter had been uxeti in Station Road, Old Colwyn, and water passed through it which supplied a portion of Colwyn Bay urban dis- trict, as well as Llysfaen, so that any extra supply must be credited to both districts. Again, since tile was fixed a number of residents have been con- nected in Llysfaen, amongst them being a large school which made a large difference in the consumption of the parish, as a whole. Moreover, if they took the population of the two districts into comparison, they would find that Llysfaen consumed nothing like the amount of water Colwyn Bay did. From the meter table they would see that Colwyn Bay consumed per day during October, 565,000, as against Llysfaen's 72,000. Giving Colwyn Bay a population of 12,000 they had an average of 40 gallons per head, which compared with 36 gallons per head for the population of Llysfaen. Where, therefore was the wastage al- legod? He thought the Assistant Engineer's remarks should he withdrawn (laughter). There was a strong feeling in his parish, because the inhabitants were charged with wasting water and he wanted the mat- ter put right. A discussion ensued as to whether the meter to which Mr Raynes referred registered water supplied to any part of Old Colwyn now the Colwyn Bay urban area as to Llysfaen. While the Chairman and Mr Hugh Hughes argued that such was not the case, Mr Raynes was supported in the other view by Mr D. O. Williams, chairman of the Oolwyn Bay Urban District Council, who resides at Old Colwyn. After Mr Hugh Hughes had reminded Mr Raynes that the population of Golwyn Bay, aocording to the returns of the medical officer of health, was 13,500, not 12,000, the matter was dropped. The Board .then went into committee. -m_

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