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ABERYSTWYTH. Board of Guardians. The first meeting of the newly-elected members of the Board of Guardians was held on Monday morning at the Workhouse, when there were pre- sent: Messrs Hugh Hughes, G. Fossett Roberts, Mrs James, Rev T. A. Penry, Messrs B. E. Morgan, T. E. Salmon, R. J. Jones, and Edwin Morris, Aberystwyth Rev J. Davies and Evan J. Williams, Ceulanymaesmawr; Messrs John Morgan and Wm. Williams, Cwmrheidol; Wm. Morris and Thomas Jenkins, Cyfoethybrenin J. B. Morgan, Cynnull- mawr Richard James, Henllys; John Bonner, Llanafan James Jones, Llanbadarn Lower; John Jones, Llanfihangel Upper: Wm. Mason, Llancyn- felin Evan Jones and David Morgan, Llanfihangel • Upper; David Davies, Llanfihangel Lower Daniel Jones, Llangwyryfon Wm. Davies and David Morris, Llanilar Evan Lewis, Llanrhrystyd David Jones, Llanychaiarn Joseph Parry, Melindwr Richard Thomas, Tirymynach David James and Thomas James, Trefeirig; R. L. Thomas, Vaenor Upper; and Lewis R. Lewis, Vaenor Lower; with Hugh Hughes (clerk), E. Llewellyn (assistant clerk), and Wm. Jones (master). OUT-RELIEF. The amount of out relief administered during the past fortnight was as follows: Per Mr T. Vaughan; Z50 9s, to 156 paupers; per Mr J. J. Hughes iE40 16s, to 151 paupers per Mr J. Morgan £48 l, to 146 paupers. APPOINTMENT OF CHAIRMAN, Mr B. Ellis Morgan having been appointed to the chair pro ten, on the proposition of the Rev T. A, Penry, seconded by Mr Richard Thomas, the Board proceeded to the appointment of chairman for the ensuing year. Mr Hugh Hughes proposed Mr Wm. Morris, ortn, lan vice-chairman, and Mr Richard iFaiiies seconded. The Rev T. A. Pehry asked if it was hot thought that they would be putting too much on Mr Morris' shoulders. That day fortnight thmbt they were unanimous that he should be selected, but since then he had had another honour con- ferred upon him, having been appointed chairman of the Rural District Council. There were many other members who had been a long time on the Board, such as Mr Bunce Morgan, who had been chairman of the District Council for two years. There was also Mr James Jones, the father of the Board, who bad been chairman of the District Council, but who never had a chance at the Board of Guardians. It was a kind of reflection on the Board to think that they had no other member capable of taking the office. He proposed Mr James Jones as chairman. Mr Thomas James, in secending, said he did not believe in putting too much work on one man at the cost of neglecting others. Mr Morris bad been appointed chairman of the Rural District Council, and he certainly considered the chairmanship of the Board of Guardians should be given to another person. Mr James Jones said he would decline the office, although he was of opinion that the same person should not hold all the offices. He (the speaker) had had all the honours this Board could confer upon him long ago. Mr John Morgan said he hoped Mr Morris would withdraw, so as to avoid a division. Mr Richard James said they bad already adopted the precedent of appointing the vice-chairman to the chair, and he did not see why they should depart from it in this case. If they did, he con- sidered it would be an insult to Mr Morris. Mr Hugh Hughes maintained that they as a Board of ^Guardians had nothing to do with what had been done Jby the Rural District Council. As Mr Morris had filled the vice-chair for twelve months, they should follow the usual course and elect him to the chair. Rev T. A. Penry then proposed Mr Thos James as chairman. Mr Joseph Parry, in seconding, said he did not believe in bundling a lot of work on one man. Mr Thomas James said he would not accept the office, as he did not consider himself worthy of it. Mr Thomas James was pressed to take the office, Rev T. A. Penry pointing out that he had been a member for ten or eleven years. Mr J. B. Morgan thought the chairman should be able to understand both Welsh and English, as there was considerable correspondence from the Local Government Board and other bodies which had to be dealt with. He was astonished to find this objection to the vice-chairman being elected to the chair, and was equally astonished to hear Mr Morgan requesting Mr Morris to withdraw his name. In fact, Mr Morgan had taken Mr James Jones'work, as it was he who usually did that work. (Laughter.) He hoped Mr Morris would not listen to such an appeal. Mr John Morgan then proposed the Rev T. A. Penry, who bad been chairman of the Visiting Committee, and bad discharged his duties faithfully at all times. Mr Daniel Morris seconded. Rev T. A. Penry I would not have taken the course I have to day if I bad any idea of such a thing. My name must not be submitted. There are many men at this Board who have a prior claim to my name—men who have been here six or eight years and who have not had a chance of it. But I am perfectly content, as I have made my protest. 1 Mr R. J. Jones said he thoroughly concurred with the remarks made by the last speaker as far as this, that if they bad made a mistake at all it was last year, by putting Mr Morris in the vice-chair. If he was a fit person to be put in the vice-chair, he was surely good enough for the chair. Whoever, therefore, they made vice-chairman this year, they should bear in mind that he would be chairman next year. Rev T. A. Penry said Mr Jones was entirely wrong. It was not a question of fitness, Mr Morris was fit enough to take the chair. Mr R. J. Jones Well, what do you want if you have fitness. Rev T. A Penry replied that Mr Morris had been appointed chairman of the Rural District Council,' and would be entitled to sit as a magistrate, and what they wanted was a division of honours. Mr R. J. Jones said he was perfectly right in his contention. It bad been a serious mistake on their part. If Mr Morris was not fit to take the chair, they should not have appointed him vice-chairman last year. Rev T. A. Penry But we don't deny that he is fit. MrR. J. Jones asked Mr Penry not to interrupt him. He thought it was fair and just that Mr Morris should be elected chairman. They were not responsible for the action of the Rural District Council, and if Mr Morris was a capable man they should appoint, him. Mr James Jones said the argument put forth for the election of Mr Morris as chairman of the Board of Guardians was that perhaps he would not be elected chairman of the Rural District Council. Mr Morris' name being the only one now before the meeting, it was put, and carried by a large majority. Mr Morris, in returning thanks for the honour conferred upon him,-said he was sorry that so much discussion had taken place regarding the appoint- ment of chairman. But he would take all that had been said in the kindliest spirit, and hoped he would have the co-operation of all the members during his year of office (hear, hear.) THE VICE-CHAIRMANSHIP. For the vice-chairmanship Mr David Davies proposed Mr G, Fossett Roberts, and this pro- position was seconded. Mr Fossett Roberts, in declining to be nominated, said so many members had a prior claim to him, having been on the Board so many years longer than be. Mr Thomas Jenkins proposed Mr T. E. Salmon for the office, and Mr Fossett Roberts seconded. Mr Thomas James proposed the Rev T. A. Penry, and Mr Daniel Morris seconded. Mr Hugh Hughes was also proposed and seconded. Rev T. A. Penry, in declining to stand, said there were members who had been three times as long on the Board as he had, and it was only fair to acknowledge their services. Mr J. B. Morgan hoped Mr Fossett Roberts would allow his name to stand. Mr Roberts, however, said he did not think it was fair to allow his name to go to the meeting, when there were other members who had served the Board much longer than he bad, and whose services had not been recognised. Mr B. Ellis Morgan said he was glad Mr Roberts was willing to withdraw bis name, because he did 'think length of service should be taken into con- sideration. On a division Mr Hugh Hughes received 14 votes and Mr T. E. Salmon eight votes, the former being declared appointed. Mr Hughes, in return- ing thanks, said he held a unique position on the Board, he being the only member who was an employee, and he, therefore, thought greater of the honour conferred upon hiL". He hoped when the time came to elect a chairman next year he would have conducted himself in such a manner that there would be no necessity for all the fuss and talk they had had that day (laughter). i LADY MEMBERS, Mr T. E. Salmon proposed that, two ladies, being members of the Boarding-out, Committee, be co- opted as additional Guardians and members of this Board. The mover said the Board had adopted the boarding-out system, insteadof bringing children up in the workbou-e. and also in lieu of scattered homes, and a considerable saving had thus been effected. The cost of the Boarding-out system in this union was 3s 9d per child per week, and they bad fifteen children boarded out. In Cardiff the keeping of children in scattered homes cost some- thing like 9s a week per head, and in other unions the cost was even greater. The success of the boarding-out system depended largely on the Boarding-out Committee, and he thought the ser- vices of that body should be recognised by the ap- pointment of two of its members as members of the Board. In dealing with boarding-out cases also, it would be a great advantage to have the advice and assistance of the members of the Com- mittee. Other boards had lady members, and he was pleased to see amongst them the president of the Boarding-out Committee (Mrs E. H. James), who bad been elected a member of the Board by the largest number of votes received at the recent election (hear, bear). He thought they should provide Mrs James with company, and the lady members could be very useful in visiting the House and in acting as members of the House Com- mittee. Mr James Jones seconded the resolution. Rev T A. Penry, in supporting, said it would be a great help if they had a few women cn the House Committee as well as men. A large number of things struck a woman's eye which would not strike a man's. This step had been taken by other unions, and bad been attended by much good. They could make an experiment of it, and if it was not satisfactory they could drop it next time. He thought the experience would be such that he was certain that from this time on they would have more women on the Board. He was glad to see Mrs James had been elected a member, and hoped from this time out other women would join the Board in the same way. He did not admire co- opfciop, but circumstances at tjroes made them put their preferences gside. Mr Pavid Pavigg g&id h" Was not in favour of co-option. If women were elected by the rate- payers they could have no objection to them, but he saw no sense in going outside to get any- one in. On a division, the resolution was carried by 15 votes to eight, It was then decided to proceed with the appoint- ments ftfid Mr John Morgan suggested that they tsWUl/J appoint one lady from the town and another from the country. Mr T. E. Salmon then proposed and Mr Hugh Hughes seconded the name of Mrs Evan Evans, Laura-place, which was agreed to unanimously. Mr B. E. Morganfproposed Mrs Colby, who, he said, was Secretary of the Boarding-Out Committee and who devoted nearly the whole of her time to good works. Mrs E. H. James seconded the proposition, stating she knew well what Mrs Colby was doing for the boarding-out system, and they could appoint no one better. The nomination was then unanimously accepted. ■ ASSESSMENT COMMITTEE. The record of attendances of members of this committee for the past year was as follows :—Num- ber of meetings held, 19; W. A. Miller, 17, E. Morris, 17, James lones, 16, J. E. James, 5, J. J. James 6; T. E. Salmon, 9, David Edwards, 9, E. J. Evars, 10, John Morgan, 8, William Morris, 12, John Davies, 9, G. Fossett Roberts, 15. Amongst the names proposed for this committee was that of Mr Hugh Hughes, but Mr Hughes said he could not act, inasmuch as he knew nothing about property and, probably, would have no time to attend. Mr Salmon said Mr Hughes had refused to act on this committee for years, and the only com- mittee he had acted on was the House Committee. The excuse he always gave was that he bad no time, but he was glad to see that he could change his mind when an important position like the vice- chair came on. (Laughter.) Mr Hugh Hughes said he was sorry to find Mr Salmon so ill. If he knew then what he knew now, he would have withdrawn his name as a candidate for the vice-chair. But he thought Mr Salmon's back was broad enough to stand a defeat like that. Mr Salmon, :in reply, said he was not ill, and had enough health in him to stand defeats equally with Mr Hughes. He could say that Mr Hughes was telling lies when he said he would have withdrawn his name. He knew Mr Hugh Hughes had, last week, been canvassing membiTti of this Board to appoint him vice-chairman. And that was the man who said that day he would have been willing to withdraw. Nothing of the'kind. Mr Joseph Parry was another member proposed for the Assessment Committee, whereupon Mr James Jones asked if Mr Parry had been legally appointed, and whether it would not prejudice the position of the Board if he was appointed to the committee. Mr J. B. Morgan said the Board had no right to interfere. If Mr Parry had sat on the Board, without being legally entitled to do so he wa" liable to a fine. Mr James Jones said there was a case in point. People talked outside, when it would be much better if they talked at the Board meetings. He asked the Clerk whether Mr Parry was legally appointed. The Clerk: Of course, if you ask me I must answer you. He is not qualified. He should have given up the appointment of assistant overseerjbefore his nomination was sent in. Mr James Jones There is a case, and Mr Parry knows of it. Mr Salmon: Since the clerk has given his decision, I should like to know what steps the Board intend taking. The Clerk said the course to be taken was either for a member of the Board or someone outside to present a petition, so as to have the seat rendered vacant in consequence of the non-qualification of Mr Parry. Rev T. A. Penry asked whether it could not be done by Mr Parry resigning, and also resigning his connection as an officer of the Board. The Clerk: Mr Parry has done that already. Mr Parry: I have done that already since the 25th March. Rev T. A. Penry Could he not resign his place on the Board now, and then put himself right with the electors. The Clerk He is technically disqualified, that is all. If he would now put himself right with the electors, the strong probabilities are that he would be returned without opposition. Rev T. A. Penry: There may be resolutions passed by this Bgard which may be illegal if they are supported and carried by members who have not been legally elected. Mr David Davies Mr Parry does not come here without having notice, and why give him notice if he is not legally elected ? The Clerk It is no part of my duty as returning officer when a nomination has been sent in to en- quire whether a candidate is qualified or otherwise, beyond being on the register. If he is a parochial elector, and his name appears on the electoral register; that is as far as I have to go. I knew very well that Mr Parry was not technically qualified for the office when his nomination was sent in, but if I desired I could not have objected to his nomination on that account. All I have to see is that the proposer and seconder are electors and that their names appear on the register. Mr Joseph Parry said he was sorry that this question had arisen. Mr James Jones had made a suggestion that there had been talk outside. The only person he heard speak on the question was Mr Jones himself and it appeared that be was the legal adviser of the Board. The two persons who had been nominated with him bad kept quiet, and he was astonished that Mr Jones, an outsider, should interfere, and throw cost on the parish. Mr James Jones said he had not uttered one word against Mr Parry. What he contended was that should there be occasion to take a case to the Quarter Sessions or Assizes, they could be put out of court on the ground that Mr Parryd not been legally elected. He defied Mr Parry to say ihat he had said anything against him-persooajjy-^ Mr Parry I can bring two or thrieS xoipirove that you have been interfering in the matter. Mr James Jones: Well, bring them to my face then. It was also stated that Mr Thomas Richards, Llanbadarn, was not qualified to sit, he being a contractor under the Board. Mr Richards, how- ever, had not yet signed the declaration of office. The appointment of committees was then made as follows Assessment Committee-Messrs Hugh Hughes, G. Fossett Roberts, Edwin Morris, T. E. Salmon, Richard Thomas, Richard James, Thomas Jenkins, John Morgan, James Jones, Evan Lewis, Daniel Morris, and David Davies. Visiting, Finance, and Vaccination Committee.— Mrs James, Mr B. E. Morgan, Rev T. A. Penrv, Mrs Evans, Mrs Colby, Messrs G Fossett Roberts, Edwin Morris, T. E. Salmon, R. J. Jones, R. L. Thomas, L. R. Lewis, and Daniel Jones. School Attendance Committee.—All guardians not representing the School Board parishes. Relatives Contribution Committee.—Messrs J. B. Morgan, E. Jones Williams, David Morgan, Mrs James, Evan Lewis, Tbos Jenkins, Hugh Hughes, DanielJMorris, Thomas Davies, and Edwin Morris. COOKING APPARATUS. On the motion of Mr B. E. Morgan, seconded by Mr Salmon, it was unanimously decided that a new cooking range and gas stove be obtained for the Workhouse. Mr Morgan said he bad tried to ascertain the age of the present range. He had spoken to a gentleman who was a guardian twenty- r four or twenty-five years ago, and he did not remember when it was put in. APPLICATION FOR INCREASE. Dr J. H. Jones, medical officer for the Borth district, made application for increase of salary. Mr G. Fossett Roberts proposed that the matter be referred to a committee of the whole Board, and that in the meantime the Clerk be asked to furnish them with statistics of the salaries paid to the other medical officers, with the population of the districts, etc. This was seconded and agreed to. PROPOSED ALTERATIONS. The Clerk read a communication from the Local Government Board enclosing a lengthy extract from the report of their inspector, Mr Bircham, with reference to the proposed alterations at the Work- house. On the motion of Mr Salmon, seconded by Mr Morris, the communication was referred to the Finance Committee. BOARDING-OUT COMMITTEE. The quarterly reports of the members of the Boarding-Out Committee, received from Mrs Colby, secretary, were read, which showed that the num- ber of children thus cared for is fifteen. MR PARRY'S CASE. The Rev T. A. Penry again referred to the case of Mr Parry, and asked what the Board intended doing in the matter. Mr R. J. Jones, asked if they as a Board had any right to interfere in the election. The Clerk said he did not think they could interfere as a Board, but any individual inside or outside the Board could object. Rev T. A. Penry said his point was this—Suppos- ing a resolution involving legal proceedings was proposed and only carried by a majority of one, they would be situated in an invidious position, and would offer a great advantage to an opposing counsel. He was exceedingly sorry to have to refer to the matter, and hoped Mr Parry would forgive him. Mr Parry said he would have looked upon this matter more kindly had Mr James Jippes brought it forward on the previous Monday, instead of allow- ing his name to go on several committees. It was only pushing him further into the mud. .M! œ<: Jopes: ? say again Mr Parry is doing me an lhjtisUc<?< Mr Parry: You were here fast" and could have moved then instead of to-day. Mr James Jones said he only considered that by putting Mr Parry on the Assessment Committee, it would be prejudicing the Council. He bad nothing against Mr Parry. Rev John Davies: I think unless the member for Llanbadarn signs the declaration within a certain time he will not be ab!e to take office. The Clerk: The Board will have to take steps to declare the seat vacant, unless the candidate returned qualifies within a month. Mr J. B. Morgan suggested that Mr Parry should send in his resignation and then take his own course. It was then decided to defer the matter for a month, Mr Parry in the meantime to take steps to put himself in an entirely legal position. THE CENSUS. The census returns for the Union were presented by the Clerk, and the figures will be seen in another column.

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