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UNIVERSALT COLLEGE OF NORTH WALES. Mrs Parker Davies was re-elected a governor of the College for one year. GIRLS IN THE DENBIGH DISTRICT. On the motion of MR J. E. POWELL it was decided to pay the scholarships and bur- saries awarded to girls in the Denbigh dis- trict to attend at Ruthin School at the com- m-anco-nent of the term instead of at the end. The clerk is to see that the money is made use of for the purchase of railway contract tickets and the paym-eort of school fees. HOWELL'S SCHOOL QUESTION. The following rcaohttion passed by the Denbigh County School Governors was sub- mitted with the request that the Education Committee should invite tiie Board of Educa- tion to had a public inquiry thereon :—"We, as governors of tho Denbigh Intermediate Bd1200], hereby beg to protest mosL em- phatically against the action of the Lord Bishop of St. Asaph, which has inflicted a great injustice upon the whole of North Wales, aud upon Denbigh in .particular, by securing the rejection of th? scheme, re Howell s School, prepared by the I he! high- ahi.rse Joint Education Committee which would have put th,) constitution of the Governing Board of Howell's School on a thoroughly re- preaeintative baais; -would have e-bolished sectarian tests for menvbers of the staff; and would have rendered available for the of North W ales (as was the intention of th.3 donor thereof), the benefits of the Trust, which, since 1845, have Ix'en mainly enoyed by a small section of the community, i.e., the Anglican section." MR HARRISON JONES, the chairman of the Denbigh Con. v School Governors, moved that the requ-eat be complied with. MR D. S. DAVIES said he thought it would bo better for the governors of the oounty school to ask for an inquiry of their own. He fully endorsed what was said in the re-solution, and the course1 recommended was the proper course to be taken by the people imimicdiat-ely affected by the decisi-<e<n of the House of Lords. He hoped that the time would soon oome when the Joint Education Committee would be enabled to present their i-cheinc or.ce more to Parliament, line by line unchanged, and without a. comma altered. MR J. E. POWELL said that the. county authority was aibeol-utcdy at one with the Deai- bi-gh governors. They must poseoiis sou lis i n patienoe. Time was on their side, aaid this question was going to be settled as they believed it ought to be (hear, hear). The resolution was received, and the Den- bigh managers were requested themselves to applv for a local inquiry. DISPUTE WITH THE BOARD. STROKE AND COUNTERSTROKE. The committee, -al)-out a. year ago, in an action at law in reference to the Wrexham Parochial Educational Foundation, sustained an adverse judgment and were required to pay costs. They asked the Board of Educa- tion to pay half these, costs. The Board re- fused, and eorrespond-emce h::1" been passing bet-woan the Board and the oojnniittee. Tiie folio wing from the Board was now sub- mitted:— I am directed too state, in reply to Messrs Evaois and Roberts' letter of October, that the B-03.rd -regret to be at issue with your authority all a question of fact. In defer- enco to your request the Board have again re- ferred to the reports of the proceedings at the public inquiry held in May, 1908, by Mr Si'mmonds, only to find therein that the contention that the school was not in any »ejn>39 W-al in its constitution (awl, therefore, and as a -n-eecssary consequence, that denominational teaching could not be given therein), formed a part of each of the tli rea HUlin propositions which were put for- ward by the counsel (Mr Graham), who re- pra-iented your authority at th.3 inquiry, and was further idevielojfod by that ggntlemaQ in the latter part of his speech. In these cir- cumstances the Board—with everv respect to the aiitltorj ty-an-ust adhere to the view ex- pressed in their last letter and again decline the .request that they should assume pecuniary responsibility for the costs of the litigation which taasu-ed in connection with tnis case. The letter was signed by Mr Alfred T. Bv vies, permajiefnt secretary of the Welsh D- partment. Messrs Evans and Roberts, the secretaries, re- pl.ied on November 15th, as follows: "10; -2ply to your Board's letter of October 26th, the Local Education Authority arc qui La unable to understand tho position taken by the Board. It appears to the Authority that tho oonterrtlon Of the Board as to the scope of tho public inquiry held in May, 1908, is an evasion of the real question at issue, aad it aeema necea- sary again to remind the Board that virtually the quest.on before the Commission at the inquiry was deciuod in favour of the managers whon the Board granted the temporary (which now ap- pears to have become the permanent) use of tho present school buildings at Brymbo for the pur- poses of a Church of England Sch-eol. We are again to point, out to your Board that the Autho- rity did riot take action in the High Court on the question of a Church of England School being carried on by the promoters in the existing build- ings, as obviously that matter was settled by the Board themselves, and the application of the pro- meters was granted without any limitation what- ever as to religious instruction. The Authority 10 10 ity had accepted this r-ituation and fully under- stood the matter to be finished. Then the Board write Lo the Authority their letter of the 13th March, 1909, which has been referred to so often in the Authority's previous communications, but as to which the Board preserve an inexplicable silimoa It was on this letter alone that the Authority were led to take action. "If. as the Board contend, the question at issue before the Court formed a specific object of the inquiry, the Authority think they arc entitled to know why a Church of England school to be con- ducted in the existing building was granted with- out any direction as to who should give the -re- ligious instruction. Further, if the question as to whether the teachers could give such instruc- tion in the school was so important a part of the inquiry as yoiy Board allege, surely the school would not have been granted' without this limita- tion until the matter was settled. "The Authority consider that there can be no doubt that when the Board raised the point in their letter of the 13th March, 1909, it appeared to the Board to be a n; w point, which had not been considered before, and which the Board thought should have tho special consideration of the Authority. The form and tone of the Board's letter appears to make this quite clear. "The Authority are determined that if they have to pay (he costs, they will not bear the blame of an action which was not prompted or initiated by them, but practically forced on them by the Board." The CHAIRMAN said the Board of Education had side-tracked them OIl the real point at issue, but if they oould not make themselves heard at th.e Board of Education, they oould get some of tho Welsh members to present their case in a more favourable atmosphere (applause). The reply of the secretaries was formally ap- proved of. TEACHERS' DISCONTENT. TWO CONCESSIONS. 1 "0 The following resolutions passed at the annual meeting of the County Association of Teachers, held at Riios on October 15th, were laid before the committee —(a) "That this meeting of Den- bighshire teachers strongly urges upon the Edu- cation Committee the need of form'ng a. Consulta- tive Committee composed of representatives of the Education Authority and of the teachers of the county, together with the Organiser to meet periodically for the purpose of co-operation be- tween the Education Committee and the teachers, and for dit-cusring any questions affecting the welfare of the schools of the coutity." (b) "That th.s meeting of Denbighshire teach- ers express its grave dissatisfaction with the pre- sent system of granting increments of salaries adopted by the Denbighshire Education Commit- tee as being ua ntelkgible, unfair to many of the toachors and educationally unsound; and fur- ther affirms that for the well-being of education in the county it is essential that the glaring anomalies in the tcachcrs' salaries and the great injustice felt in the annual partial revision of salaries should ba removed by the aclfeptio-n of an equitable scale of salaries." The CHAIRMAN moved:—"That the Teachers' Association be reminded that this com- mittee approve of the principle of ooiiferenoe with teachers from time to time upon educational problems, as has already been shown upon seve- ral occasions when such conferences have been convened by this committee." MR DODD stilted that the oommittoo had really been mott anxious at all times to oonfer with the t achers, and failed to see where any grievance came in. With regard to the question of increases of salary many inaccuracies had been circulated. At the meeting at Rhos grave accu- sations egainst the Authority were made. In order to show the teachers that the Authority were prepared to meet them to listen to any grievances they might have, he would also move— "That the Association be informed that the com- mittee will be prepared to receive a deputation and to consider any specific instance of alleged grievance in respect to individual salaries, pro- vided the deputation furnish particulars of such cases beforehand." Each year the Staff Com- mittee devoted two, if not thro?, days to a care- ful consideration of the salaries of all the touch- ers; they had information before them from quar- ters where information was likely to be of value; every case was dealt with on its merits, and he if oit oortain thc-re was no substantial grievance on the part of the teachers. If there was, under his proposition it oould be brought before them. It was unfair to level charges at the committee without supporting them with some sort of evi- donoe. MR J. E. POWELL suggested that the refio- J lutions should be taken separately, and to this tho Chairman agreed. MR D. S. DAVIES seconded the first proposi- t'on, reminding the teachers that the principle P.. of conferring with them was already adopted by the committee. MR J. E. POWELL advised that the confer- ences be held at least once a year. That would bring the confcrence definitely into existence. The CHAIRMAN and MR D. S. DAVIES agreed to add words to the resolution provid:-ng for a conference with the teachers at least onoe a year. The REV. THOMAS LLOYD (Colwyn Bay) raid they were practically granting what the teachers asked icr, and why should they not openly say so and give them the satisfaction of having their way for once. It would help to smcoth matters over. MR EDWARD ROBERTS asked would thcire ba any objection to lask tll,3 Teachers' TJnion to c.ppoint, say. six of their mumber, wham the eoni'iciittee could call together when they thought it was desirable that- there, should be a consultation. The ORGANISER said that there- were four representatives of the elmentary schools and four of the secoadiary school teachers already appoint ed by tho teachers themseilves to meet the committee at amy tima. Tho CHAIRMAN said he was anxious that there should bo no confusion between t-11,13 two cf?n resolutions, which dealt with quite different things. It was educational problems that tha committee were anxious to have the ad- vice of the teachers upon, but the second re- solution dealt with questions of salary. The socond resolution was administrative pitTe anel simple. MR J. WILCOXON asked whether the time had not come when they should follow the example of 32G other education authorities and allow the teachers to elect a reprefieiuta- ttivlO to serve on th.e committee. The CHAIRMAN said that was an entLredy separate ion. lYrE J. E. POWELL suggested that tho woid "inform" should be substituted for the vvoid "remind" in tbo opening part of tine re- solution. MR J. WILCOXON: They are an intelli- gent body, and you ought to reeognice th-cm as such. The REV. THOS. LLOYD advised that the committee ah*iu!d acoetpt the resolution of the teachers and' telii theim they were accepting it. Ho would like them to be told aym- pathetioaily that the committee agnood to their resolution, and informed that this was what the committee had done in the past. The CHAIRMAN said that too oonumittee had already substantially agreted to tho re- solution, but he. had no objection 1.0 the weed "reminded being taken out," aiiid the word "informed" being put in plaice of it. It was suggested, further, that the resolu- tiOtll should state that such a eoiifKeronice would foo held not lews often than once a year. That also was accepted by the Chairman, and the resolution was carried unanimously with the embodiment of these changes. WHO WILL BE CONVENERS? MR POWELL askicd whether in the event of more than one meeting being considered by the teachers to be desirable a f urther moat- illlg would be called at any time whien tho teachicffs sent an intimation to the darks. Wouid there, be any objection to their having such a metetlng, or would it only be the com- mittee who would have the right to ccxnvcne a conference ? MISS GEE said that unless there was a conference called she mipposed what might be termed the statutory meietung wouid be held at the tend of tiie yaaor. MR WTDOOXON said it apipejuned to him that the toa-cheim would hav-e no voice in the hoidaiig of a. metetiiig. It would depend entirely upon the committee. The CHAIRMAN Suroily, ag we have, on our part, expressed approval of the holdiing of oonfereo-ois from tilme to time, we are not likely to run away from it? MR POWELL I quite agree to that. Tho CHAIRMAN There is nothing to shut- tha.t out. THE SALARIES QUESTION. The CHAIRMAN then moved hia second re- solution in which h.e- proposed that tiie com- mittee should recc-ive, a- deputation at an y time upon .specific complaints as to inadequate salaries. He said that four or five years ago they had from the assistant teachers in the Rhos district strong complaints of injustice being done. Theiy asked for a deputation to appear bEifore tho committee. The cl. putation came, and he (the- chain-man)' ven- tured to say that the deputation cmco they had met the away perfectly satisfied. One teacher had already given his notice in to sever his connection with the com- mittee, and had taken a post -dsewhetre, but (tiho chainman was told afterwards; he TÜ- gretted very much that he had left the county of Denbigh. He felt till:1.t if they met the teachers face to face they oould ba ishowm that there was no injustice being done. If there was they oooild retritedy it. M D. S. DAVIES, who seconded, explained the system adopted by the Staff Comnirit;te0, which he regarded as perfectly fair to all. He admitted that hig-hsr salaries might be paid, but that could not be done iwntal the county was prepared, to provide the money. If they had a scale of salaries they would retain all the drones and -lose the brighter teachers. He had watched the working of scales of salaries1, and he had iiever seen tihe-m proving satisfactory in any house of busicx-ea In the country. As a general rule houses which adopted them -,vemt out of existeiboo in a few years. When teachers in that county found that tlie."T salaries were not incr&aised the proper course for them was to consider tho tact -a polite intimation that they should eitli,or,iniprove in their work or sook pooitkwia. elsevfbere. It meant that the committee, aiter taking their cases into occasaeLerabion, in the light of c(ynhdentiad information, wore not satisfied with the-ir services. The com- mitbeo had had a great deal of lexrway to make up, for wtoem they came into office, tho salaries, especially of the non-provided school teachers, were very inadequate. MR SIMON JONES (Wrexham) pointed out that the total salaries of the teachers had gone up some XGOO a year continuously. The market was flooded with teachers. At tb3 iast meeting he attended in the borough of Winoxh'am there were 80 applicants for. one vacancy. MR POWELL said there was a moral re- sponsibility resting upon the education authorities to do their duty by th-ooe whom they sent into the profession (hear, hear). He supposed, an overwhelmiag number of the authorities had a scale of salaries. The resolution was then carried unanimous- 1y. LLANDDULAS CARTER'S ALLEGED THEFTS. COMMITTAL TO QUARTER SESSIONS. On Saturday mor-nang, at a. special court held at the Abergele Justices' Room, before Messrs John T. Millward {in the chair) and Edward Williams, Daniel Owen, a, carter in the employ of Mr Robert Crcee, The Mills, Llaoddiulas, was oharged with stealing an overcoat, the pro- perty of John l-wberr. Jones, employed by Mr J. Williams, Harp Hotel, Abergele. The evidence of P.C. Rowlands, of Llanddiu- las (given on the previous Saturday, a.nd re- ported in these ookimns last week) was now road. The prosecutor, John Robert Jones, 2, Ivh'uddilan-road, Abergele, said he was a driver in tho employ of Mr John Williams-, Harp Hotel, Abergele. lie had a fawn-coloured over- coat in the saddle room on Saturday, the 22nd October, and on going to look for it on the 23rd it was misting, and he eventually informed the police of has loss. On Saturday, the 10th inst., ho was called to the Abergele poli atation, and the ooat now prod'aood was shown to him. This he identified, a.; tho one ho had lost. He valued the coat at 73 6d, and tho uoiton; ab 2s &a-108 in all. The accused had no q'i»33tions to ask, and wheofi the charge was read out to him he had nothing to &ay. A SECOND CHARGE. A further elbalYe was thea made against accused of stealing a clo-eb and epeedoioeter, valued at £ 12, the property of a gentleman from Huddierslietid. Mr Joseph Blaimire, woollen manufacturer, of Bradley Lodge, lluidder.-diad, said that in Sep- tember iast he had an accident to his oar Dear Llanddulas, and it was placed in a field near the vjillagte. The epeodiomeier was blien at- tached to it. In a dlay or two afterwards he went to see the car, and the speedometer was missing, and information was given to the po'ice. He identified the speedometer and clock produced as his property, and he valued it at £ 12. Gvvily.ui Hughes, the twelve year old soar of Ellen Hughes, The Squares Uaaiddulia, aaid that some time ago he was with acerased at The Mills stable. He asked a/oou ^ed tiie time, and the latter went to aand on the top ofr the wall took something in his hand and looked at it, saying it was "after seven." .He be-ld the thing' in his. hand in sach a way that witness could not see it, and tlien put it back on the shelf. Last Monday morning witness informed Mr Robert- Cross of what he had seen,. Robert Cress, the proprietor of the Llaadckb- las Milk, said the accused had been in his em- ploy since the 24th of August last. At the request of the police witness made a. search of the premiaen, and from what Gwilym Hughes had ,1f,)kl him he went to tiie stable, and fouaid on the top sheilf the clock end speedometer now produced, and. took it into the how. It was wrapped in what appeared to be an old stocking. He afterwards handed it to P.C. Rowlands. Usually 110 one but the acttue-ed had to the stable, especially for the iattt month or two. P.C. Rowlands said that on the 16th Sep- tember last he received information that a motor clock and speodtomctier had bocn taken from a. motor car tl.ft in a field oLoso to a gate, amd only ten yards from tho highway. In core- lioqaieace of uiformation iwciv-ed he had rea- sons for visiting the accused on the 22nd Sep- tomber. lie told him that he had reason to bdteve he was aanontg' othei-s in the field where uh,o motor car was loft on the evening of the 15 th September, between seven and eight o'clock. Accused made a statement im- plicating another party. Witness asked him wliethor he wished to say anything more about it Ilo said, "I have not seen tho speedometer and clock, after it was thrown down on the field by Peter Evans. I think you wish find tho clock in his possession." On the lCtth instant witness searched accused''s box in his bedroom at Ihe Mills, and in reply to a question Owen said the box and its contents were has. In it witness found tho frame and speedometer, wrapped in brown paper, and tied with string. Upon. o[jening it witness asked- how it came into hia possession, and also remarked that the clock had ijaen extracted. Aoousod said, *'I know nrothiug' about the clock, but I found: that In the field wliero tho damaged motor was left eoiao time a .go." Wiinors then asked, "Do you reco-'xjct my visiting you on the 22nd September, seek- ing information about some- of tnese articles? To that accused replied in the affirmative, add- ing, "I had it fo.r some time m the stable, but of .late I havo kept it in my box here." Continuing, witness said that on Monday last ho visited tho Mills, and Mr Crces handed him tho clock. He then charged: aoerased with the theft of the speedometer and oi-ce-k from the niotor car. Aceusod replied, "I did not steal it, 1 found it in the. field about a fortnight after tihe accident, and you know wnat I told you aboi.')! the dock." Sergeant Junes-Reea said that an. important vritmasi was absrit, and he asked for a jjubpeena for his attendance. On boiirg formally charged the aeou&sd said, "I wish to say that I did not take the speed- ometer from the car. Pe-ter Evans t-ook it from the motor, and threw it on the floor, saying, "Put it in your pooke-t," but I replied, "No, I won't; kx>k at the crowd there is bore. Leave it there, and come away from it." He then took out his knife, ripped the ityre, and put the clock inside. I then asked, "What good will that do you?" Sergeant Jones-Roes said there were four other charges against the aoousod of stealing olothinig, but it was not intended to proceed wkh them. Accused was then committed for trial at the aeoLt Quarter 30ilic..

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