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OVERSEERS THREATENED WITH I PROCEEDINGS. NEED OF A PUBLIC MORTUARY. I The fortuiu'itly meeting of the Abergavenny Board of Guardians wan held 0:1 Friday, Col. V, "William: presiding. There were also present Mr. H. J. Y.wiilim (vice-chairman), Mrs. Hiley, Father Wray, Messrs. John Prichard, Daniel Watkins, George Spencer, David Edwards, N. Pullin, Charles Thomas, John Baynam, Robert Johnson, Alfred Edwards, Win. Biggs, George Dando, Joseph and W. I,. Dodll. Father Wray and a Pubiic Mortuary. I The Master reported that there were in tiie house 56 men, 31 women and 17 children, a total of 104, compared with 126 for the corresponding period of last year, or a decrease of 22. The number of casuals relieved during the fortnight was 56, compared with 97 for the corresponding period, a decrease of 41. He had received a quantity of vegetables from the Frogniore-street Baptist Church. On the istli of August the body of a man killed 0:1 the L. & N. W. Rlv. was brought to the Workhouse for admission to the mortuary. He ;the jviasteri was in the town on business at the time, and the Matron thought it was right that permission should be given for the body to be brought there. When he re- turned the body was there, and he did not care to say that it must not be allowed to remain there. He understood that in their Workhouse it was not the custom to receive such bodies, al- though it was the custom in other workhouses. Father Wray said that in what was called the ancient borough of Abergavenny there ought to be a public mortuary. The Local Government Board had forbidden them to receive dead "bodies into their mortuary except the dead bodies of those who had died in the Workhouse. They were often told about this ancient borough of Abergavenny, which had been restored, to its pristine glory through the efforts of the late Marquess of Abergavenny, and that it was The Gate of Wales," and there was no doubt about it that these things were perfectly true. They had a cattle market, a covered general market. Through being the Gate of Wales and the centre of perhaps the most beautiful scenery in Monmouthshire, if not in Wales, they attracted large numbers of people from all parts of the country, as well as the people from the lulls in their thousands. Any visitor at any time might meet with a fatal accident or a sudden death at Abergavenny, and although they had got every other institution they had not got such a thing as a public mor- tuary, and he thought that, seeing that they had now a Mayor and Corporation, they might petition them. He proposed that they write a letter asking them for the erection of a public mortuary. The expense need not be very great. He did not think that the Town Council would be called upon to purchase any other property. A very nice mortuary, small but neat, and practically inexpensive, could be built in the region, if not close to, the Fire Station. The police of Abergavenny were really handicapped on these occasions An accident might happen to a stranger to the town, and unless he had friends or relatives in the town into whose house he could be received temporarily, there was no knowing what was to be done, and scandals might arise. The time had come when they, as a public body, should move in the matter. They had a hospital, nursing home, Grammar School, Intermediate School, public elementary schools, and they were a centre of a splendid railway system, but the borough could not be considered to be complete unless they possessed a public mortuary, and therefore he proposed that they write to the Town Council respectfully asking them to erect such a public mortuary. Everything for the Living, Nothing for the I Dead." I Mr. D. Watkins You have every convenience for the comfort and entertainment of the living, but nothing for the dead. (Laughter). The Vice-Chairman considered that it would be dictating to the Town Council, who might tell them to mind their own business. The Town Council were quite capable of looking after their own business, and he did not think the Guardians should move in the matter at all. Mr. Pullin thought it was right that the body in question should have been put in the Work- house mortuary, because there was no other place where it could be put. At the same time, it was a good idea of Father Wray's that a public mortuary should be erected. The Chairman You have no power to inter- fere with borough business. Father Wray We have no authority, but can't we write a letter asking them ? The Chairman We are discussing the Town Council business entirely. Father Wray said that it was their business in so far as bodies which ought to be placed in a public mortuary were taken to the Workhouse mortuary. The Vice-Chairman If the Master had been there that would not have happened. Father Wray What would have happened, seeing that there was no other place to put it ? Mr. D. Watkins said he supported Father Wray. He did not think it was right that every corpse should be sent to the Workhouse. The Chairman I quite agree with the Vice- Chairman that we have nothing to do with the Town Council in an affair of this sort. Has there been a case like that for years and years ? You know what the rates are, and you will be putting the Town Council to further expense. If Aber- gavenny is to do it, Blaenavon will have to do it. I don't see that we should go to this expense for the sake of just one outside our town. Re- member the price of everything. If you want a small cottage built you have to pay double the price now. Mr. Pullin said that it would not be a big undertaking. As Father Wray had mentioned, there were many thousands of people coming to Abergavenny, and there might be a fatal case. I The Chairman (to Father Wray) Do you wish 1 to dictate to the Town Council what sort it ought to be ? Father Wray No. Mr. Joseph Howells No one wants to dictate to the Town Council, but only to ask them to do what is reasonable. The Chairman You will have to do it at Blaenavon. Mr. Howells We have one there. I hope the Borough Council is not a Council that can't be approached by a letter. I support Father Wray's motion. Mr. D. Watkins You have provided for -visitors and are prepared to take their money from them when they are living, but when they are dead you don't care what becomes of them. Nothing to do with the Guardians. L' I 1 11 -? The Vice-Unairman saia cnai ne nau no objec- tion to the Borough Council of Abergavenny providing a mortuary, but it had nothing to do with him as a Guardian. Father Wray Oh Mr. Pullin They are using our Workhouse. The Vice-Chairman They have no right to use it. I don't want this Board to do the work of the Borough Council, because I believe the Borough Council are quite capable of looking after the interests of others without being dictated to. Mr. D. Watkins said that they had evidently not done so. The Vice-Chairman: You are judging on one case. Mr. Howells You will agree that they have been neglectful in one case. Father Wray I have proposed a resolution. The Chairman I gave you a chance, and now you want to shut the door on everyone else in discussing it. Father Wray said he made the remark because he had not heard anyone second it. Mr. Pullin said that this case would not have arisen but for a fatality occurring, and they did not know how soon another fatality would happen and they would be in the same position. The N-ice-Chairman The Master says if he had been present he would not have accepted the body. Mr. D. Watkins What would have become of the body ? The Vice-Chairman Let the Borough Council sav. It does not concern us. Mr. Bavnam It is only a recommendation. The Chairman What is the difference be- tween asking them and recommending ? The Clerk asked that the proposition should be put in writing, because on a previous occasion the wording of a resolution had been questioned. Father Wrav then dictated the following proposition ""That a letter be written to the Town Council respectfully asking them if they can kindly see their way to the erection of a small public mortuary", also stating that the Local Government Board have forbidden any bodies to be in the Workhouse mortuary except the bodies of those who die in the Workhouse, yet, if any persons, especially visitors, meet with a iatal accident their bodies can find no temporary abode except in the Abergavenny Workhouse. The Chairman (to the Clerk) Send it every word as it is written. It will be a bit of history. On being put to the vote the proposition was carried bv 13 votes to 3. Those against were the Chairman, Vice-Chairman, and Mr. Robert j Johnson. The Chairman (to the Clerk) Keep a copy of I that. I may want to refer to it some day. The Master I take it that in future I must refuse to accept a body in such a case ? The Chairman Mr. Scanlon, give your advice, j The Clerk Yes. Increased Relief. The Clerk reported that during the fortnight there was an increase of £ 9 13s. led- in out- relief, compared with the corresponding period last year— £ 3 155. 3d, in the Abergavenny district, and £ 5 iSs. 2d. in the Blaenavon district. Overdue Call Decision to Summon Overseers. The Clerk reported that the overseers ot Aber- gavennv urban had not yet paid their call of £ 2,167 due 011 the 1St Tuesday in June. It was practically three months overdue. Mr. Prichard Isn't that collected ? The Clerk It is not paid in. Father Wray How much is paid in ? The Clerk £I.7oo. Father Wray Then we have not £ 2,167 as a deficit. It is only f.J.67 out ? The Clerk Yes. Mr. Pullin Is it the fault of the collector ? The Vice-Chairman This £ 467 should have been paid in in June ? The Clerk Yes. Father Wray It does not give them sufficient time to collect the money. The Vice-Chairinan They have had more than two months since. Mr. Prichard It is not the ratepayers' fault. It is the collector's. ■ i- -• ■ Mr. Baynam This rate was made in April, and the call should have been paid on the 1st of June. Father Wray It is £ 467 out. Mr. Pullin Has any of that money been collected from the ratepayers ? The Clerk We can't tell. Father Wray said that he had his receipt to show. Mr. Watkins Then you have paid, Father Wray ? Several members were talking at the same time and it was impossible to follow what was being said. Mr. Howells remarked We ought to have perfect order while we are considering such an important matter. There are three or four talking at the same time, and you, Mr. Chairman, are as bad as Mr. Gwillim. (Laughter). The Chairman What do you want to say ? Mr. Howells I have nothing to say, except that I want to hear the others. Mr. Pritchard proposed that they summon the overseers. Mr. D. Watkins seconded. The Clerk That is your only remedy. It is no use mincing the matter. The proposition was carried. The Vice-Chairman What does that mean ? The Clerk Certain formalities will have to be gone through. I shall have to make applica- tion to the magistrates and a special court will have to be held, but there is no doubt that in the meantime the money will be paid. Father Wray And next Wednesday you will have the beautiful sight of the Mayor of Aber- gavenny brought up in a public court. He won't be in the chair, I suppose.? The Chairman And I hope I shan't be there. (Laughter). The Workhouse Question. I The Chairman again referred to the Workhouse question, remarking that they were gradually getting to the end of the year, and they did not know what would happen. Mr. Alfred Edwards said that it was on the minutes that the Clerk write to Mr. Williams, Local Government Board Inspector, and he had not replied. The meeting was breaking up, and the matter dropped. ♦

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