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MR. FORESTER-WALKER AND HIS…

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MR. FORESTER-WALKER AND HIS I QUESTIONERS.. I 'L 1 Ir. Leolin Forestier-Walker, the i.moiusi Coalition candidate for L:è Monmouth Division, held a ,mblic meeting at the Town Hall on Fridav night in furtherance of his campu^gn. Though Mr. Forestier-Walker has come as tar ? Civtha in his cam-oa?u? ? the old South M-umouth Division, this was his first public aDpearance at Abergave:my. Mr. J. 0. Marsh presided over a large attendance, tnough the hall was not quite full, and Lie was supported, in addition to. the candidate, by Col. E. C. Curre, Mr. F. P. J. Hanbury, Mr. W. L. Thomas, Mr. H. Getliing, Mrs. Powell Rees, Mrs. Steel, Irs. Gilbert Harris and others. The Chairman referred to Mr. Forestitr- Walker's strong claim to the seat, as he was a local man with a lone record 01 work on count y and local bodies. He was a member of many important committees of the County Council, aad chairman of some, a keen and practical agriculturist, and there was no man who was better qualified to represent the constituency than he. (Applause) Germany Must Pay the Uttermost Farthing. Mr. Forestier-Walker, who had a cordial re- ception, said that the Government which had made victory in this war possible was the only Government to make the peace permanent and satisfactory and of such a nature that no nation in the future would be tempted to embark on schemes of world domination and to provoke such a war again. (Applause;. It was essential that the Government should have a united people behind it in order to deal with the problems of the future. He was convinced that Germany must pay to the uttermost farthing for the deeds she had done. (Applause). She made France pay a large indemnity in 1870 for tue trouble and expense she had been put to in the war, though she had no claim for reparation for devastated territory. She could not, there- fore, grumble if we demanded similar terms for the sacrifices of treasure aud life we had been put to. (Applause). Financial experts would bear him out that if Germany was not made to pay an adequate indemnity she would emerge from the war stronger than ever before and stronger tliJm any of the Allies. Our children aud grandchildren must not be taxed to pay a bill which Germany was responsible for. (Ap- plause). With regard to the cruelties per- petrated on Allied prisoners of war, those responsible must pay to the full. The com- mandants of camps must have justice, but no mercy, and if they were adjudged guilty they should be hanged by the neck till they were dead. (Applause). Before they talked of reconstruction, the nation had a debt which it must discharge. First they must see that the widow who had lost her man in the war was assured of a sufficient income to keep her respectable and comfortable. They must also show in the fullest way their gratitude to the men who were left, especially the disabled. It must not be mere lip service. Those who wanted to go on the larfd must have laud provided for them, and those who could uot find a job must be kept by the Government till they could. (Applause). Freedom of the Seas. He would never agree to the freedom of the seas proposal if it meant British supremacy going. (Applause). The seas had never been so free, as since they had been kept by the British Navy. (Applause). We must remember that we were an island and that our roads were on the waters, and nobody could see that the I roads were kept open better than ourselves. Let them think what would have happened if we had lost the supremacy of the seas for 24 hours during the war. There was great need for increased production, Taotn on the land and in the workshops. The Government must take a greater interest in commercial matters, there must be a better consular system, ard our 'representatives must be British born and bred. By this means our overseas trade would be improved-to the benefit ot the producers at home. There must be more scientific research work in agriculture, and a secure market and fair prices to the producer to enable him to pay good wages to his men. By tneir efforts farmers had saved us from s6.i- starvation in the war, and agriculture must never be neglected again. He was very keenly in- terested in the housing question. Good housing made for the happiness of the people. They must have gocd hcuses with plenty of space there must be something like beauty, and, what was more, someth ng like comfort inside. The candidate was called upon to answer a large number of questions, most of them coming from three or four individuals identified with the Federation of Trades Unions and the Social Study Circle. In reply to written questions he said he was certainly in favour of a radical change in the system of free import duties and the dumpin" of German and Austrian goods in this country. He was also in favour of abolishing conscription a > soon as it was found that it could be done. Conscientious Objectors. I A resolution had been sent to the candidate fey the Abergavenny Social Study Circle calling I upon The Government to respect freedom of conscious by the unconditional release'of con- sciencious objectors from prison. (" Oh ") Mr. Forestier-Walker said he could not support the proposal (applause) on the other hand he thought they might be given some useful work to release the men who had been fighting for them. (Applause). Mr. T R. Wall: Will the candidate take steps to see that the land which has been held in the past by the ground landlords is given to the soldiers who have fought for it ? Mr. Foiestier-Walker I have already said that where there are soldiers who want land they must have it, and they are going to have it. ^Applause). Mr. Stark put a long question dealing with the inadequacy of pensions and allowances, and he said that 27s. 6d. was the maximum pension for a disabled soldier, 13s. gd. for a' widow with children, and 24s. per week for discharged munition workers. He wanted to know if that was an earnest of what they might expect. Mr. Forestier-Walker said that his remarks referred to what must be done. He was not a member of the Government which had gone out. There was no doubt there would have to be an increase in the pensions. Even now war pensions committees had power to make supplementary grants, and he was quite sure that no soldier could appeal to a body more sympathetically inclined. Where the .pensions were not enough the country would have to make them sufficient. (Applause). Some Question. t Mr. Wall asked the candidate to say, with regard to housing, the number of houses re- quired, how he intended to construct them, the rate of wages to be paid, and whether he intended to use the brickyards at present controlled by the Government for the purpose of making the bricks. (Ldughter). Mr. Forestier-Walker replied I am not going to build the houses. (Laughter). The people who are going to build them are the publicly- elected bodies for the various districts, I am going to help the building in" the district where I happen to be chairman, and also as a member ef the County Council, and I will take jolly good care to see that my houses are put up all right. I recommend you to get your representatives in your district to do ditto. (Applause). Mr. Wall: In your pamphlet on the housing question they point out that in 1911 we were over-populated to the extent of two in one room. Mr. Forestier-Walker You had better put that question t6 Mr. Asquith. He was in power then. (Laughter and applause). Mr. Stark: Will you support legislation to obtain security of tenure for the working classes ? —-I mean secure the right to live, not faced with adversity and sickness which are sending men, women and children into our workhouses. Mr. Forestier-Walker I have only heard of security of tenure in connection with land and housing. You don't mean that ? Mr. Stark I mean the right to live. Mr. Forestier-Walker I quite freely concede everybody the right to live. Mr. S. H. Owers Where do you want them to live—in a house or in the workhouse (Laughter). Mr. Forestier-Walker Personally I should like them to live where I like to live myselt—in their own house. (Applause). Mr. Wall Seeing that the debt is now i,o millions, willyou tell us to what extent '1 working classes have to he taed to pay tl"; huge debt ? Mr. Foreatier-Walker When I am made Chancellor of the Exchequer I will tell you. (Laughter). Mr. Owers You spoke of German crimes and said "Make theift pay the cost." Do you suggest that you would hang the German race in general, or the persons responsible for these crimes ? Mr. Forestier-Walker I cannot separate one German from another. (Applause). I don't care whether he is the Kaiser or the commandant of a camp he must pay the penalty. (Ap- plause). Mr. Owers -If you boom agriculture, as you s'uggest, way do you require freedom of the seas ? (Laughter). Mr. Forestier-Walker We do a large t.-ade at our shop. (Laughter). We don't only deal with pur village, but we send goods to other villages, and the roads to the other village happen to be on the water. (Applause). Added to that, the numerous family we have got are in different parts of the world, and we like to be in close communion with them-. (Applause). Working-men and Income-tax. I Mr. Morgan Are you in favour of the aboli- tion of the income-tax on the earnings of the workiiig-mau ? Mr. Forestier-Walker I am in favour of the abolition of the income-tax on everybody, especially myself. (Laughter). We have to pay for the war and keep Oll country going; and we have all to pay our share. Where there is a certain income which will not allow of the pay- ment of income-tax it should be inviolate. Mr. Wall The working classes don't know what they do pay now. Would you be in fayour of doing away with indirect taxation and making one direct tax on incomes, starting with no tax on incomes under /i,ooo a year. (Laughter). On incomes of fi,ooo upwards we should get sufficient to run the country. Mr. Forestier-Walker Income-tax has to be paid by most people, and I don't think they ought to grumble if they have the income to pay it on. The bigger the income the higher the tax, and it seems to me a very fair apportionment of the burden. Mr. Stark Are you in favour of the national- isation of industry, including railways ? Mr. Forestier-Walker said he had seen so much of Government control during the war that he was not enamoured of the idea. The workers would find that it was a big mistake and fatal to the industries of the country. A League of the Anglo-Saxon Race. I Mr. S. G. Williams Are you in favour ot a League of Nations as a means of preventing future wars? Mr. Forestier-Walker I should like to know more about it before I was in favour of it. It is a question it is impossible to say yes or No to. It would be extremely dangerous for the country at the present time. The only league of nationslikeiy to be safe—and I advo- cated it before the war-would be a League of the Anglo-Saxon Race. (Applause). Mr. Wall Is he in favour of total disarma- ment throughout the world ? Mr. Forestier-Walker If you had some guarantee that is worth having that it would be carried out and kept, but the difficulty is to be sure that the nations which have disarmed are not secretly arming while you are doing nothing. (Applause). Mr. Start: Are you in favour of negotiations between nations being open and above board, and that there should be no secret treaties ? Mr. Forestier-Walker It is all very pretty to make these genera l remarks, but they don't carry conviction to me a bit. We are only one o the parties. If you can satisfy me that the other parties are going to play the game I will agree, but if you are the only one who is playing the game I should not be such a fool as to agree to it when I know that the others have their hands- under the table. (Applause). The Woman's Point Of View. I Miss Amy Jackson put some pointed questions with regard to the position of women. In reply Mr. Forestier-Walker said he was in favour of the extension of the vote to women on the same terms as men. As to the State regulation of vice, speaking as a man of the world, who had experience of foreign countries, he was inclined to think that it was one of the greatest mistakes ever made when the Contagious Diseases Act was repealed. He might offend his questioner, but before he conld agree he would have to be convinced by the best medical authorities, who at the moment were not in accordance with the questioner on this matter. In other respects he agreed that men should have no preferential treatment to women in regard to medical examination. A resolution pledging support to Mr. Forestier- Walker was proposed by Col. E. C. Curre, and seconded by Mr. W. L. Thomas. Mr. Stark proposed a Hirect negative 'hs an amendment, Mr. Wall seconded, and Mr. Tonkin supported. On being put to the meeting the amendment received seven votes, and there was a general show of hands for the resolution, which the Chairman declared to be carried by an over- whelming majority. Rev. S. H. Bosward There are neutrals. ♦

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