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INCREASE OF 2sd. IN THE RATE. rjr INSURANCE BENEFITS AFTER 70. OR Tl:e fortnightly meeting of the Abergavenny Board of Guardians was'held on Friday, Col. W. WuHnins presiding. There were also present Mrs. Hiley, Rev. D. r. Walters, M. Morice Jones, TVies?- Robert Workman, John Priehard, Wm. ]Morri>. S. il. Th T: J. Hov.vils, V.'utki:u-, James Harrison, Joseph Griiffths, Wm. Jones, Wm. Bigqs, Alfred. Edwards, Wm. Gwillim, Robert Johnson, and N. Pnllin. Master's Report. The Master reported that there were' in t:ie house 5::) men, 28 women and I I chi_ ldren, a total of 97. the same number as for the corresponding period of last j ear. The number of casuals relieved was 6T, compared with 2<) tor tne cor- 1 responding period of last year, au increase of 32. I Insurance Benefits After 70. I Mr. \V. Morris moved a resolution in reference to National Health Insurance, requesting the Ministry of Health to promote legislation in Parliament to remove the injustice now existing viz., that when an insured person attains the age of 70 he ceases to be an insured person, with the consequent loss of benefit that a person not able to continue his employment should have the option of continuing his benefit and receive the insurance benefit and old age pension, if eligible that the insurance benefit should be free of tax; that, further, the age limit for National Insurance and Old Age Pensions should coincide, namelv, if in the future the age limit for the Old Age Pension be reduced, so should the age for receiving disablement benefit b! correspondinglv reduced. Mr. Workman seconded the resolution, re- marking that it would be of great benefit to large numbers of working men to receive such a sum, whereby they would be able to maintain themselves in a proper manner, and seeing that thev had plicl for this money it was nothing but right that thev should receive it and should not be dependent upon the Poor Law. He thought it was one of the finest things he had ever heard sine" he had been a member of the Board. Mr. Thnrne supported the resolution, and said that it was a pitv they had left this thing so long. He would like it to be sent forward to the Association of Poor Law Unions with a request to recommend it to their members. It would show that thev were doing something for the old men who could not do something for them- selves. who could not do somt2tl,,ilg for them- The Rev. Morice Jones thanked Mr. Morris for his lucid statement in reference to this matter, and he endorsed all that the subsequent speakers had said. It was high time that the Government moved in this matter and reduced the age limit for old age pensions from 70 to 65. Mr. Alfred Edwards said that they all agreed with the principle of the resolution. The Rev. D. F. Walters asked if Mr. Morris had considered the actuarial basis of the scheme, and what effect it would have. Mr. Morris replied that they found that as time went on there was a large accumulation of funds. Thev did not want to have these funds accumulating at the expense of those who were starving. As far as the actuarial basis was con- cerned It would not increase the premium. j The resolution was carried. Salaries of Religious Instructors. Mr. I'. Watkins moved that the Roman Catholic religious instructor be paid for his service. r.t the house. He did not care what religion an instructor might be, he should be paid for his services. If the amount they paid iu salaries for religious instructors was £ 30, let it be equallv divided. Mr. Robt. Johnson We have settled that matter. Mr. James Harrison said that the Roman Catholic priest had no Sunday services, but only visited his people in a more private capacity, whereas the others preached sermons on Sun- days and visited the house on other days. There was a difference in the services rendered. Mr Griffiths I should like to move an amend- ment that the Roman Catholic lie on the table. (Laughter). Mr. Thorne I hope you won t have him nere on the table. The Chairman Tnis gentleman does not come unless he is sent for. Mr. Watkins said he was under the impression that he rendered eciual service. He maintained that he should get something. He proposed l5. The Rev. Mo-nice J ones asked if there was any likelihocd of the priest becoming a member of that Board. Mr. Harrison said that the present priest was only there pro tern, and a permanent one was coming. He moved that the matter stand over until the new man came. They would then find out if lie was going to seek a place on the Board. If he wished to take the Roman Catholic position at that Board he would certainly get it. The Rev. D. F. Walters pointed out that years ago they decided to pay the Roman < CatholicC5. In reply to the Chairman, the Master said that at the present time there were about 15 Roman Catholics in the house. Mr. Harrison The position is that no one has paid the money or received it, and it has fallen through owing to inaction. It was decided to adjourn the matter. The Poor and Profiteering. Mr. Thorne moved tnat tnev apply to tiie -lir. T,iorne ,at t'-iev appiv to t?le Abergavenny Town Council and the Blaenavon Urban Council for direct representation on the local tribunal on profiteering to be set up in their respective areas. There was no need to explain the necessity of such a tribunal. There was a lot of profit' cring going on in various trades. They should look after the interests of the poor people, to whom he considered they paid too paltry- a sum. It was up to them to see that the interests of the poor people were looked after zLi -ik that they were not charged too much for what they purchased. Mr. Mo"ris, in seconding, said that the in- terests of that Board were affected in an im- portant degree. They were big purchasers and they had a large number of people in receipt of relief. It was an abominable thing that pron- ts teering committees should be necessary in a like o, r s, Christie: u country like ours, because people were not honest enough. The resolution was carried. Economical Guardians. I A resolution was received from the Lewisham Guardians that in view of Mr. Chamberlain's serious statement about the periiious financial position of the country, they urged the Govern- ment to take no further action with regard to setting up new authorities in tfce place of Boards of G-.i.s, which would involve an enormous addition the existing expenditure, the appoint- ment of hundreds of permanent officials, the ex- penditure of thousands of pounds by way of ëO!:lPf";S ,Lion and superannuation to existing officials, the erection and maintenance at the national cost of more institutions, and the Guard; expressed their willingness and abilitv to deal with all' matters which came within the purview of the new authorities. Mr. Watkins moved that they support the resolution.. The "resolution was adopted on the propositi* n of theRev. D. F. Walters, seconded by Mr. Watkins. Anxious For Mere Work. A resolution was received from the Hawarden Union urg~ing ° the Government to legislate for the ames;dri' nt of the Old Age Pensions Act and the Wui I elisions Act, with a view to placing the administration of those Acts in the hands of Boards 0; Guardians. Mr. W?tkins moved tnat they support te -,fr.a t they su p l?,??,t t,-e The Clerk It will never come off. The Rev. Morice J ones seconded. Air Morris There will be no Boards of Guard: in existence soon. The Clerk Thev will not let the Boards of Guardl: dmidster the War Pensions Act, nor the Old Age Pensions. OnI). two voted for the resolution, which was therefore lost. I Allegation ot iniustice. I 2Ir. John Morgan, vaccination officer for the Blacr. dis-,nct'N,rote regretting that his application for increased remuneration had received an unfavourable decision He was therefore now writing to formulate his request into a definite applic ation for £ 15 per annum in lieu of lees, and he hoped they would consider it, in spite of their previous adverse decision. In their apolicatiou of the civil service scale of bonuses 10* their officers, the religious instructors and vaccination officers were omitted. A great deal had been made of the acreage and number of parishes in the Abergavenny district, but .J. ;1, 1 comparison of the districts. There was a gr. at I difference in the physical features and the climatic conditions of the Blaenavon district compared with the Abergavenny district, which rendered travelling more difficult in the former than in the latter. Furthermore, the birth lists of the Blaenavon district were always double those of the Abergavenny district. The Chairman We decided it at the last meeting. Mr. Thorne I move that we take 110 action. Mr. Watkins moved that they consider it. He thought that Mr. Morgan had been unfairly ireattd. His work was equal to that of the Abergavenny district, and if they agreed to give him £ 15 it was much less than he used to be paid. I The Rev. D. F. Walters (to the Chairman) Do you rule out this application ? I want a ruling. The Chairman I don't want to be unkind, I Ie lu J.. c"I.. h. C "L L J" .n. tut I think we are out of order. Mr. Harrison We have no standing orders. Mr. Walters That is the reason I am asking the Chairman if he rules this out. The Chairman.: I rule it out. Mr. Walters Then I disagree with you. Mr. Howells said that the Board did an in- justice at the last meeting. Was it reasonable that they should pay one man by results and the other by salary ? It was an injustice. Mr. Thorne On a point of order. It has been discussed, and it is out of order. Mr. Howells It was out of order last time. You are pleased to be unjust. Mr. Morris That letter is quite a different letter to the old letter. This asks for /15 in salary. Mr. Thorne Mr. Morris is out of order. I move the next business. After further discussion, the next business was proceeded with, after the Chairman had again ruled the matter out of order. Subsequently Mr. Morris gave notice that he would rarse th question at the next meeting. Mr. Watkins gave notice to rescind the previojs resolution. Increase in the Rate. I The Clerk said that he had gone through the estimates, and they would require a rate of is. old. in the £ for the ensuing half-year, an increase of 2 VL Mr. Griffiths said that they had increased the rural district rate 2d. in the £ last week, and that meant an increase of Sd. in one half year.. The Clerk said that the Asylum maintenance was responsible for an increase of a penny and one-sixteenth, and the increase for union pur- poses was less than id. Relief was going up. Mr. Edwards And salaries. Mr. Harrison asked if the Clerk had included the prospective repairs at the Workhouse in the estimate. The Clerk said he had included it in the 'esti- mate and had put down /500. Mr. Harrison said he was glad to find that it was included in the estimate, but ought it all to come in one six months ? because the work would not be done in that time. Other members thought that the work would not be done in the next half year and that the estimate was too high. Mr. Watkins moved that the rate be is. in the 1, the Rev. Morice J ones seconded, and it was carried. Standing Orders. I The Clerk submitted standing orders which were recommended by the committee appointed for adoption. After some discussion it was decided that each member should be supplied with a copy of the rules governing the conduct of the meetings, and that the standing orders should be dealt with in a month's time. New Workhouse Still Necessary. I A letter was read from the Local Government Board suggesting certain alterations in the plans for improvements at the Workhouse, principally with the object of improving the means of exit in case of fire. Mr. Workman said that the Chairman and himself met the Inspector at the Workhouse, and the Inspector came to the conclusion that they should have two fire escapes, one on each side, but he left it to the Guardians as to whether they were of wood or iron. He was still con- vinced that a new Workhouse would have tfrbe built, but as regarded the expenditure which was going on there now he was quite in sympathy with them and would do all he could to help them to carry on the house for a few years. With regard to the drainage, he (Mr. Workman) had asked some of the old men if they had smelt anything there, and they all said that they had not smelt anything whatever, and that the place was as sweet again as before. They had the assurance that the little expense they had gone to was well worth it, but the Inspector distinctly told them I am in for a new building." Mr. Watkins He will have a long way to go. +

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