The Pembroke County Guardian and Cardigan Reporter

PEMBROKESHIRE EDUCATION COMMITTEE. The monthly meeting was held on Friday at the Shire Hall. Mr. S. 'B. Sketch presided, and there were also present: Miss Ada E. Thomas, Mr. Joseph Thomas, Dr. G. Griffith, Arch. Hilbers, Dr. Williams (Drim), Air. E. H. James and Mr. James Harries. DEVONALD ENDWOMENT. The Board of Education wrote stating that the draft scheme of the Devonald Endowment was now being revised for publication, and copies would shortly be sent for the informa- tion of the Authority. WOLFSCASTLE TRANSFER. The Board also wrote recognising the transfer of the Wolfscastle Non-provided School as a Council School from 1st January, 1907. LLYSYFRAX SCHOOL. The Board of Education wrote stating that it would be necessary to advertise the transfer of Ilysyfran Board School in the usual way. It was explained tnat this had not been considered necessary, and the Committee now decided to comply with the Board's ruling. A GRIEVANCE FROM PEMBROKE BOROUGH. The Board of Education forwarded a letter it had received from the Pembroke Borough Education Authority complaining of the action of the County Authority in abolishing the pupil teacher system under which the county paid for the education of probationers and of pupil teachers from the Borough of Pembroke. They claimed that the pupil teachers appointed by the Borough this year should be educated at the cost of the county, in spite of the new bursar scheme which had been adopted. They pointed out that the probationers now in the schools would not be able to qualify under the bursar scheme and would therefore be at a disadvantage. The effect of this was that the Borough was paying twice over for the educa- tion of these pupil teachers directly and through the county rate. The Borough Author- ity asked the Board of Education to assist them in the matter either by holding a public in- quiry, with a vew to enforcing payment, or otherwise as it thought fit. The Clerk said the Board asked for the views of the County Authority upon the matter. The Chairman said this was a matter of very great importance, and seeing that it was a dispute between two bodies he suggested it should be referred to the Higher Education Sub-committee for a report. This was agreed to. CORRESPONDENT FOR TENBY PAROCHIAL SCHOOL. It was reported that Mr. J. A. Bancroft had been appointed correspondent of Tenby Paroch- ial School in place of the late Mr. E. Mun- caster. THANKS FOR HALF HOLIDAY. The Secretary of the South Pembrokeshire Teachers' Association wrote conveying the thanks of his association for the concession made by the Education Committee in the mat- ter of the special half holiday. STATUS OF THE C.W.B. EXAMINATION. Communications had been received from var- ious Education Authorities in answer to the circular letter of this Authority regarding the Status of the C.W.B. Examination. Barry. Montgomery, and Wrexham supported the reso- lution. Xewport (Mon.), were arranging to dis- cuss the matter with the C.W.B., and Den- bighshire had deferred consideration of the matter. PEXSIOX ALLOWANCES. Mr. J. Whicher presented the report of the Finance Committee, which contained little of general interest. With regard to a question of outstanding pensions, it was stated that the Board of Education had given their decision upon appeals presented to them with reference to certain disallowances and compensations made to late officers. The Board had allowed the appeals and reversed the disallowances of the auditor, so that those cheques which were withheld had now been sent out. Mr. Joseph Thomas seconded the adoption of the report, which was agreed to. BUILDINGS COMMITTEE. This Committee reported:— Fishguard Council School.—A letter was read from the Board of Education with reference to this school stating that the average attendance in the mixed department must not be allowed b exceed 155, this being the number for which the department is recognised. The Managers' re- quest was also considered in which they asked that the Director shpuld write notifying the Board of Education 'how matters stand with regard to the temporary building and the erec- tion of the new school premises. It was re- solved to recommend that the Education Com -n mittee should instruct the Director to make the suggested explanation. Hermon Council.—A letter was read from the Board of Education on the subject of the re- commendation of H.M.I, with regard to the gallery in the infants' room. The hub-commit- tee instructed the Architect to report upon the matter to the next meeting. Abercych -N.-P.-The Board of Education en. quired regarding the sanitary condition of this I school. It was decided ,that the Managers be asked to give the necessary information for the reply. Architect's Report. Hakin temporary building.—The Architect re- ported that he had designed a portable build- ing for Hakin that could be taken down and removed to another place with as little trouble as possible. The desgn was submitted, and as the matter is urgent, the Sab-coi-riiiiittee ask the Education Committee to approve of it, and give the Sub-committee authority to advertise for and accept tenders for carrying out the work. The Committee also recommend that the plans and specification for railing in the en- closed site be accepted, and that directions oe given to the Architect to proceed with the work is soon as the conveyance is received from the Vendor's solicitors. Glandwr.— The Architect reported an interview which he had with Mr. Standford Fowcett from the Local Government. Board, who made appointments to meet h.n at Swansea on the subject of certain objections which lie had made to the cmccs of this school. To meet the objections the Aichito.'t made plans for a septic tank and filter Led which have been sent to Mr. Fawcett for approval. Laniphey.—The Architect reported that he took I the Opportunity of his interview \rith Mr. Faw- cett to discuss the plan:; for the drains, etc., of the new school, and Mr. Faweett suggested cer- tain alterations which are being made in the plans, and which will be presented to the Board of Education. Milford Council.—The Architect presented a bill of £ 17 3s 9d from Messrs. Cole and Sons for providing cupboards, etc. to this school. The Committee recommend payment. Fishguard Council.—The Architect intimated to the Buildings Sub-Committee that the Contractors of this School would shortly be entitled to another iE200 on account, of the contract and the Sub-committee recommend the Education Committee to draw a cheque for that amount which would be retained until the Architect's certificate was presented. St. Martin's.—The Chairman reported that he, with the Architect, had visited this school and, I accompanied by the trustees of the Tabernacle Chapel, had visited the pece of garden ground behind. The trustees promised to submit terms on which they would be prepared to lease the premises to the Local Education Authority, and the Sub-committee desire the Education Com- mittee to consider these proposals as soon as they are received. j Goodwick Site.—The Chairman reported the visit of the members of the Sub-committee to Goodwick and it was resolved to recommend the Education Committee to write to the agent of the Estate Company stating that the terms em- bodied in his second letter-as part of the condi- tions of selling cannot be" accepted and that the matter must fall through. Dr. Griffith proposed the adoption of the re- port, which was seconded by Mr. E. H. James. The Clerk (Mr. W. Davies George) explained the position with regard to the Goodwick site- He said another condition- was sought to be imposed by the vendors after the terms were accepted by the Committee, and the latter did not see their way to accept this condition, and had replied accordingly. The report was adopted. FURNISHING. This committee reported:— St. David's Council.—Mr. Joseph Whicher drew the attention of the Committee to the fact that a head teachers in, the County had stated at a public meeting thåt he had not been supplied with sufficient school material and that he had to borrow material from a Non-provided school in order to earry on the school. The Director reported that the head teacher had been supplied with school material up to the limit allowed by the Authority. The Committee recom mend that the Director in- vestigate the matter and report to the next Furnishing Commitee. Barham N.-P.—The Secretary of the Trustees of the Endowment of thi^T school wrote stating that the provision of wood, etc.,for the wood- work class was a matter for which the Author- ity was responsible, not the trustees, as it was a matter of school maintenance. The Commit- tee recommend that 14s. be allowed and not the amount, iEl 8s., asked for by the head teacher. Crunwere N.-P.—The Corespondent wrote stating that the salary paid to the cleaner was inadequate. The Committee recommend that enquiries be made with regard to the cleaning of the schoolroom after the Sunday School. Llangwm N.-P.-The Correspondent wrote stating that he had refused to allow Mrs. Evans to clean the school until he had had a reply from the Board of Education. The Committee recommend that the Correspondent be informed that unless Mrs. Evans was admitted to clean the school, the Authority would not maintain the school after the 1st January, 1909, and that the Board of Education be informed of this. Puncheston N.-P.—The Director reported that he had visited the school and found the coal without any protection, the correspondent hav- ing taken away the coal-house. The Committee recommend that the Managers be informed that unless a coal house istprovided the Authority will not maintain the school after the 1st of 'February, 1909. Rhydberth N.-P.-Tlie Managers submitted a requisition for desks, cupboard, etc. The Com- mittee recommend that.aie matter stand over until next month, and the school be re-opened with the old desks. Freystrop N.-P.—The Board of Education wrote stating that they did not consider the arrangement for the supplying of desks a> satisfactory. The Committee recommend that three new long desks be obtained. Narberth N.P. (I.)-Tiie Managers asked that a kindergarten folding desk, El 5s., be obtained. The Committee recommend that sanction be given to the ordering of this desk. Broad Haven N.-P.-The Managers assessed the cost of the fuel consumed at the sewing class at zEl. The Committee recommend that £1 be accepted from those responsible for the sewing class for the cost of fire. Hermon Council.—The Managers wrote re- commending that a clock be obtained and also blinds for the windows facing South. The Com- mittee recommend that sanction be given to the obtaining of a clock ( £ 1 Is., and the old clock in part exchange), and blinds for the school. Narberth 1. Council.—The Managers recom- mended that a giant smoker chair (16s. 6d,)" he obtained for this school. The Committee re- commend that sanction te given. Maenclochog Couijcil.—The Managers wrote asking that a new bell be provided. The Com- mittee recommend that sanction be given to obtain a hand bell. Newport Council.—The Clerk to the Managers reported that the desks have been removed to Fishguard N.-P. School and submitted a bill of 12s. The Committee recommend that the bill be paid. Talbenny N.-P.—The head teacher wrote stat- ;ng that desks were required for standards two, three and four. The Committee recommend that sanction be given to the ordering of sum- ) cient desks. Mr. T. C. Bees wrote enclosing a circular giving particulars of the publishing of the "H 'story of Pembrokeshire" by the late Rev. James Phillips. The Committee recommend that the matter stand over. Fireguards.—The Chairman reported on the matter of fireguards, and the Committee re- commend that the tender of Messrs. Morse and Evans, E121 10s. (less the three samples sub- mitted by other firms), be accepted for the num- ber of tireguards required galvanized, and with three-eight bars instead of five-sixteenth bars. Talbenny N.-P.—The Committee recommend that sanction be given to the ordering of coal from Mr. Richards, Hasguard, at 26s. 6d. per ton. HEADMASTER CACLED OVER THE COALS. Mr. James -tiai,ries, in moving tne adoption of the report, referred to the paragraph relat- ing to the Headmaster of St. David's Council School. He thought the matter should be en- quired into, ar; wnen a statement was made of this kind—without any foundation, as he was informed—something was not right. It was not to the' credit of the master that he should have said what he did in a public meeting, because the Director had informed the Furnishing Com- mittee that every school was supplied on the same scale. He knew that other teachers were well satisfied with this scale. Dr. Griffith said he was sorry to hear any dis- respectful word of anyone. But when a master made a statement of that kind at a public meet- mg in face of the fact. that no application had co,no to the Furnishing Sub-committee, he thought the time had come fur them to have an txplan-ition from that master. /As long as they treated their mc-n properly, as they were { doing, they had a right to expect the same treat- mer' from the men, and not for the men to go outside and make things public such as were made on the occasion referred to. He I never believed in tILt. kind of meeting, out to ti)in1v thats.i man in Their pay should bring ach thing:; to their charge—lie moved tnat they is < him for an explanation of his reasons hn' d-ting so. Mr. J. Howard Griffiths thought the mas:- v had made an -pplicition to the officials for these requisites, and there was some delay with regard to the matter; quite possibly there jn gilt be deiay in many other things. The Chairman said it was quite clear whr.t I this man ought to have clone. Clearly it was his duty, A any one at the office was at iault to write to headquarters and complain, not to hold the committee up to public ridicule. Either he had not been supplied and ought to have been, in which 2ase his first duty was to inform his employers; or else he had been sup- y lied according to scale and had been misus ng it. The Director said he thought the master was referring more especially to what happened this year. In July he submitted to his mana- gers a requisition list, which his managers re- fused to sign owing to their belief that if he made a similar requisition in the second half of the year he would be exceeding the limit. He (the Director) wrote back to the managers stating that it would not exceed the limit, and that he would see to it that in the second half the limit should not be passed, therefore the managers could safely sign the list. This they did at the next meeting, and the master ulti- mately received his goods. That, he believed, accounted for the matter complained of. He was of opinion that the school in question had been very well supplied. The master had in- formed them he used to receive Z20 for requis- ites from the old, School Board, and if that was so he should liot have been in the poverty- stricken condition that he was when this Au- thority took over. One of the explanations put forward for his high requisition list by the master was the fact that he used paper instead of slates. But this was not sufficient to account for the difference. In reply to Mr. Harries, the Director said the master had his goods before this charge was made. Dr. Griffith: I think we should have his ex- planation before discussing it any further. It was agreed that the Director should write asking for an explanation. Mr. Whicher moved that the paragraph re- ferring to the ordering of coal for Talbenny X.-P. School be deleted, and that tenders be advertised for. Dr. Griffith seconded and it was carried. r The report, as amended, was then adopted. ATTENDANCE. This committee reported:- Medical Inspection.—The Board of Education forwarded Form 9 M.I. to be filled up with particulars of the provision made by this Au- thority for the medical inspection of school children. It was decided that the Form be filled up and to state that the inspection is un- der the supervision of the Attendance Sub-com- mittee. Reports of Attendance Officers.-The Commit- tee considered the reports and returns of at- tendance officers for the month of November. The figures for each attendance district may be seen on the attached summary. The Com- mittee report that the percentage of average at- tendance for Xevember (87.7), is the highest per- centage yet attained in this county for a single month. Officer District Xo. 1 stated that he had been unable to be on duty for part of November and submitted a medical certificate. The Com- mittee decided that he be asked to report any indisposition at once to the Director so as to make necessary re-arrangements. Officer District No. 4 reported the statements made by the Chairman of the magistrates of Narberth Bench with regard to enforcing orders made by that Bench. He also submitted a bill of £1 Is. for fees which the Chairman of the magistrates had demanded to be paid in ad- vance. The Committee recommend that the amount of £1 Is. be refunded to the Attendance Officer and that the. Standing Joint Committee be asked to allow the fees in the Narberth Petty Sessional Division to be charged to the County as is done in other divisions. Prosecutions.—The Committee decided to prosecute 17 cases for breach of bye-laws. Director's Report on Registration in District 14.—The report stated that there were a few cases of children whose names had been re- moved from the registers owing to illness, but there seemed to be no doubt in the minds of the head teachers that the course, they had per- sued was a proper one. Considerable laxity was observed in getting the childreh to attend as soon as they became five years of age, and in each school there was a large number well over five on admittance, and a few in each school well over six before they were admitted. It. was resolved to send to the Attendance Officer particulars of the cases mentioned by the Director and that he be asked to keep his cen- sus op to date. Director's Report of Medical Inspection.—It was reported that Medical Inspectors had been appointed to all the districts except Fishguard and Cardigan, and the Inspectors appointed were proceeding with the work. Dr. Thomas, of Goodwick, agreed to take some of the schools nearest his surgery and Mr. Jones, of Boncath, agreed to take two schools near his dwelling place. Dr. Stephens, of Cardigan, undertook the inspection of schools in his district. There still remained several schools for which no provision had been made. It was resolved to provide two portable weighing machines for the use of those inspectors who did not use a trap. After-care of the deaf.—A circular was read from the Council of Headmasters of Institu- 1 4 tions for the deaf regarding the after-care of the deaf. The matter was allowed to lie on the table. Attendance Tickets.—The head teacher of Clarbcston School had sent in a requisition for a supply of attendance tickets. The Committee recommend that this requisition be sanctioned. School Libraries.—The Committee considered the desirability of forming libraries in element, ary schools and recommend the Education Committee to grant facilities for the formation of school libraries which they consider may be made a means of improving the attendance of the children. Officer District No. 11.—This Attendance Offi- cer attended before the Committee in connec- tion with the recent proceedings taken against him. He was warned, and gave his promise that the offence should not be committed again, and on having that assurance, the Committee desire to recommend that he be retained so long as he continues of good conduct. Archdeacon Hilbers proposed the adoption of the report. Mr. Whicher asked how many schools had libraries nOw, and could the Committee be furnished with the average attendance in these schools, so that they could see the advantage of the libraries? The Director said he could not supply the in- formation that day, but could provide it for the meeting of the sub-committee. Miss Thomas said the Haverfordwest town schools with which she had been connected had libraries, and the attendance was excellent. The Chairman And Broad Haven, I think. Miss Thomas: Broad Haven has been pro- vided with a library only a few weeks, and the attendance has shown a most marked im- provement. But the period is too short to judge from. Dr. Griffith thought they ought to have in-' formation concerning ail the schools. All the schools, he maintained, should be treated alike. He did not believe in treating one better than the other, and lie did not suggest there had been any difference of treatment. But he thought Committee should have full in- formation before proceeding. Miss Thomas said the object of the sub- committee in making their recommendation was thai it v.ould help to improve the attend- ance. So f^r as she knew, not a single penny of the ratepayer's money had been spent upon a single library in the county. All the libraries now existing in schools 'had, been entirely formed by the children's own efforts, supple- mented by the efforts of the staff, the parents, and friends. The way the libraries had sprung into existence was very simple. The children were asked, if they wished to form a library to bring one book each as a nucleus. The res- ponse made was very generous. The head teach ers and assistants had talari the matter up with a great deal of interest, and other friends gave privately certain volumes. And so in each of these schools a fair number of volumes were gathered together to start a library. One of the conditions attached to the use of the libraries by the children was that no child was allowed to take or exchange a book on Friday, the library day, unless he or she had made complete attendance for the week. The result had been very gratifying in the schools she had an intimate knowledge of. The attendance had decidedly improved, and they could only attribute it to the attraction the books had for the children and their consequent eagerness to complete the attendance. -Not zr penny from the rates had, as far as she knew, ever been given to a single library, and that she did not think this had as yet been thought of. When fresh volumes had been needed, the teachers and scholars had got up little concerts and enter- tainments and had invited people to attend them. A small charge had been made, and in This way considerable suilis were obtained. Archdeacon Hilbers remarked that the word- ing of tiie paragraph was rather vague. It might be referred back with the request that the sub-committee should state what facilities they suggested. One thing required, lie thought, would be cupboards. Miss Thomas said cupboards had been pro- vided for the libraries she spoke of; she had omitted to mention that. The Chairman said Miss Thomas' idea was that if by any possible means they could in- crease the attendance they would be doing a good thing. They would be educating and help- ing the children, as well as increasing the grants. It was thought that some small as- sistance might be required in somit schools. They had assisted certain schools in other mat- ters, for instance—at Milford they sought as- sistance towards purchasing a piano. The staff raised by far the greatest part of the money, and the committee were asked for the balance. They thought they were doing well to encourage efforts of this knd and they granted the re- quest. Mr. Harries suggested that the question should be referred to a special committee, as it was not work for one of the regular committees, hut concerned all. After further discussion, the matter was re- ferred back for a further report, and the re- port was then adopted. STAFFING. This Committee reported:- Adjustment of Salaries.—It was resolved to recommend that the salaries of head teachers, who would suffer a loss through the new as-- sessment of house-rent, should be adjusted, so that they shall not suffer loss by the payment of rent fixed, the amount of the rent or of the loss to be added to their present salaries, ac- cording to the schedule attached thereto, and that .the salaries take effect from the 1st April, 1908:— Proposed salary Present under jaew School. Salary assessment. a s. £ s. Birn Street, C. 153 0 162 15 Prandergast C. (G).. 1]2 4 119 14 Loveston C. 100 0 106 15 Rayr,ca,;tle C. loo 0 107 10 Stepaside C. 130 0 J33 0 St. Dogmaels C. (M) 140 0 143 15 do. (1) 80 0 86 15 90 0 94 15 Glandwr 0. 120 0 122 5 Sewing Mistresses.—The final re-arrangement of staffs owing to the dismissal of some of the sewing mistresses was allowed to stand over. Kindergarten.—A circular from the People's Kindergarten Association was laid before the Committee who recommend that the circular be referred to Miss Thomas and Miss Allen for consideration and report. The Committee considered matters of staffing of schools in the County and beg to make the following recommendations:— Non-provided Schools. Angle.—That an U. teacher be appointed- male preferred. Bosheston.—That Miss Edith Davies, who sup- plied during the absence of the head mistress at the Certificate Examination, be paid at scale rate for one week. Cilgerran.—That Fred T. HagStrom be paid for the time he assisted at this school. Crullwere.-That the bill of £1 5s. submitted by Gweneth B. Reynolds for travelling expenses and lodging expenses to the end of November, be paid. Dale.—That the Managers be allowed to ob- tain a monitor. Fishguard.—That A. Lambert be paid for the time he served in this school from October 7th to the 26tli—19^ days. Jeffreston.—The letter of the correspondent concerning the retention of Win. Davies was read, and it was decided to write to the Corres- pondent asking by whose authority Davies was retained. Llawhaden.—The Correspondent offered a plot of land for a school garden. The Director was instructed to enquire what rent would be re- quired if the land was fenced and that he would report to the Buildings Sub-committee. Milford Haven.—That Alice Garrett be paid full time for the week Miss Jenkins was away sitting at an examination. Manorbier.—That sanction be given to the payment of salary to Celia A. Evans, U., at scale for one week, together with expenses there and back. Nolton.—That the salary at scale of W. Cecil on supply for one week, qod expenses, be paid. Rosemarket.—That the question of the staffing of this school be deferred for another month. Roch.—That sanction be given to the payment of Beatrice Russell on supply for three weeks. Spittal.—That Winifred R. Harries be paid for serving here for two weeks. Walwyn's Castle —That the same apply to the matter of obtaining ground for school gar- den in this school, as mentioned above for Llawhaden. Tavernspite.—That the arraugnn mt whereby Gweneth B. Reynolds supplies here (luiiijg the illness of the assistant teacher be sanc- tioned, and that she be paid at scale, toeethcr with her expenses. Council Schools. Neyland.-That the temporary employment of G. M. Harts as supply teacher for one week, commencing December 14th, he sanctioned at scale. Bridell.—That Alice Grime, U., be reta-itec, at scale salary from the 1st of January, 1909. Llanwnda.—That A. Lambert be paid for serving here for one week at scale. Fishguard.—That the ireetor be authorised to arrange for the filling of the vacancy caused by the resignation of Mrs. Picton. Prendcrgast (I.).—That the resignation cf Miss S. E. J. Lewis, on December 31st, be ac- cepted. Picndergast (G.).-That E. M. Williams be paid at scale for the three weeks she served here. St. Martin's.—That E. M. Williams be paid for serving one week at scale. Carnhedryn.—That J. J. Jenkins, of Llan- deloy be transferred to this school, as recom- mended by the Managers, and that he be in- vited to attend the Education Committee on Friday next. Llandeloy.—That the prospective vacancy here be filled by an experienced female U. teacher at scale, and that advertisements be I issued in local papers only. Appointments.—The committee recommend that the apopintments of the following teachers, on the conditions set out in Art. 15, clause 1 of the day school code, 1908, be made and sanctioned according to tha- particulars set out in the "Record of Appointments" Book, now submitted, and that the Chairman s'gn the said book:—Elizabeth A. Jones, Hubberston N-P. (M.), U.; Arthur P. Guest, Milford N-P (M.), C. Hd.; Violet Boughton. Marloes N-P., U.; J. J. Jenkins, Carnhedryn C., C. Rd.: Olive M. Watkins, Carnhedryn C., U.; G. D. Gwynne, St. Dogmaels C. (M.), U. unpaid). In proposing the adoption ->i the rorcrt. Dr. Griffith explained that the sub-committee quite ro 11 approved of the idea of providing a garden for Llawhaden Scho. but found they had no power to grant money other than as a rental for the ground The repor: adopted. CARNHEDRYN HEADSHIP. -f. of Llandeloy, who w::s re commended for the headship of Curnheclr, Cornell Ee^'iol, was interviewed by the ecin- mittee, and duly appointed to the position.

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Main Road Expenditure. Sir,-I am obliged to Mr. Allen for the in- information contained in your issue of the 11th. I fear there are very few ratepayers who, know the difference in the Rateable and Assess- able value of the County, and therefore would! not notice that Mr. Allen calculated the rates raised on the assessable, and the expenditure on the rateable value. To make this clear it should be explained that the Rateable value is the full value of all Rateable neriditaments, and the assessable value the full value of buildings, etc., and half the value of agricul- tural land. And the loss in the yield of -,he rate in consequence of the land being rated, half its value is made good by grants from the Exchequer under the Agricultural Rates Act. These sums are paid to the spending authorities and not to the Guardians who collect the County Rate. Mr. Allen now says he did not include this in his paper because he did not think it relevant to the issue. I say it is relevant to the issue, and that no such rates as 6.95 in the £ as stated in column B. of Mr. Allen's calculations was levied last year for road expenditure, but that the cost was covered by a rate of a frac- tion over 5d. in the k. Mr. Allen gave figures showing expenditure for the year ending March, 1908, which I accept as correct. I think Mr. Allen will not dispute that the total cost, P,7,981, was apportioned to the several districts according to the rateable value, and that after the amount expended in the mainten- ance of the main roads in the several districts wis ascertained the balance was returned in the form of a subsidy which was applied to the relief, of the local highway rate. Nett result to the County-The rural districts had contributed Z5,221 towards the costs of the roads, and the Urban districts, £575. Tenby district contributed £47, and the Haver- fordwest Rural, £ 2,415. The maintenance of the main roads is a general county charge, and the cost last year, £ 5,796, is equal to a rate of 3d. in the E, and Tenby should have paid P-354 instead of £ 47; and Haverfordwest Rural about £1,800 instead of £ 2.415. Several of the Urban districts have contributed nothing, yet Mr. Allen at the Coun- cil Meeting, and in the Press declares that the urban 1 districts are milked for the benefit of the rural, and I beg to ask if he will show how this is done, for as far as I can see he has made a mistake in the cow. Yours, etc., THOMAS JOHN.. Elm Grove.

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