Wrexham and Denbighshire Advertiser and Cheshire Shropshire and North Wales Register

CHURCH ASSOCIATION. ine representative committee of the Church Association for the Rural Deaneries of St. Asaph, Denbigh, and Dyffryn Clwydd, he'd their quarterly meeting on Friday, in the National Schoo'room, St. Asaph. Dunng the early part of the business, the appointment of officials, the chair was taken by the Dean of St. Asaph, and afterwards by the R- v. the Warden of Rnthin. There were also present:- Venerable Archdeacon Ffoulkes, Rev. L. Lewis, rec- tor of Denbigh Rev. David Lewis, rector of Tref- naut; Rev. R. O. Hughes, Llysfatn; Rev. Thomas Williams; Rev. Watkin Williams, Bodalwyddan; Rev. T. B. Brown; Mr T. Eawlins, Llewesog; Mr Kyffin Roberts, SG, Asaph; Mr Brownlow Wynne, tiartbewin; Mr G 11 E lwards, treasurer. Denbigh; Dr. Turnaur, hon. sec.; Mr A. AtkinA, St. Asaph; Mr William Hughes, Cefn and Mr Martin Swith, secretary. Letrs of apology were read from Capt. Pennant (chairman), Mr Lto)d Williams, Rev. W. Hicks Owen, Mr J. Heaton (Pias Heaton), Rev. D. R. Thomas (Cefn), and Mr Sisson (Talardy.) The minutes of the last meeting were read and confirmed. The appointment of officials for the ensuing year then took place, and the following gentlemen were unanimously re-elected:-Capt. Pennant, chairman; the Rev. the Warden of Euthin, vice-chairman; Mr Gold Edwards, treasurer; and Mr A. E. Tumour, hon. secretary. The Dean of St. Asaph then vacated the chair, which was taken by The Rev. the Warden ot Euthin. The Chairman said he would in the first place thank them for the honour they had conferred upon him in re-electing him vice-chairman. He would re miud them that the time at their disposal for tran- sacting business was somewhat limited, and if thtrc was anything h be brought forward it had better be done at once, so as to enable them to accomplish it. RB-ARRANGEHENT OF THB PARISHES OF LTAN- ] RHAIADR AND DENBIGH. J ine jisan ot St. Asapb called attention to a letter sent to him by the Bishop of St. Asatih that morn ing, which he had received from Canon Thomas, rector of Uanrhaiadr. The letter stated that the writer had the credit of being the sole obstacle to the redistribution of the parishes of Llanrhaiadr and Denbigh, and it was also stated that he had proposed to get the incumbency of Prion restored to the mother church. His lordship would know that he (Canon Thomas) never moved directly or indirectly In the matter. It was his (the Bishop's) proposal, and he must say he approved of the reasons given by his lordship at the time. His neighbours bad brought it against him, and he hoped he (the Bishop) would make it known to the chairman how matters stood. He also strongly objected to Mr Lewis, of Denbigh, robbing the mother church of all its squires. Eev. L Lewis I beg to enter my solemn protest against being called a tobber. I only assed for that which could be done by legal means. A robbery is an act contiary to the law of the land. The Dean of St. A-saph: I don't think that is the light intended by Canon Thomas. The Itev. L. Lewis again protested against such an expression. Mr Gold Edwards I must say it is a very offensive observation to make in a letter to be read at a meet. ing like this, and I think this meeting should not allow such a letter to go nnoticed. I think myself it is a very offensive observation. The Dean of St. Asaph: I think yoa must take it with the context. Mr Edwards: Well, take it as you will, addressed to a brother clergyman it is a very offensive re- mark. Rev. L. Lewis; It is more offensive than anyone in this room is aware, in connection with what bas taken place. The adding insult to injury is very offensive to say the least of it. The Dean of St. Asaph I simply did what I was directed in reading the letter. The Chairman said the representative committee was appointed at his suggestion to hold a conference with the Bishop of St. Leaph. The Dean had brought up the question in another form; and he (the chairman) thought they were quite in order in discussing it. None of those gentlemen, Major Ffoulkes, Mr Hughes, and Mr Mainwarinz, were present, and they would have been exceedingly glad to hear from them what course was proposed to be done with regard to the redistribution of those parishes. It any gentleman in the room could give them any information on the subject it would be a great advantage. It was a re-arrangement without the cognizance of those interested in those parishes, and it eertainly did appear to him that those who were interested—he did not mean pecuniarily in. terested—had never thought others should have an opportunity of discussing the scheme, and bringing forward their objections or their proposed amend- ments. In times gone by, the Ecclesiastical Com- missioners had made very great mistakes, which had arisen no doubt from ignorance of the locality, and it would be much to be regretted if any similar mis- take should eccur again. And he thought it would be well if in any way those schemes could be submit ed to the archdeacon or rural dean of the district. Holding the views he did he thought it would be right and proper that those officials should have an opportunity of stating what they thought of the scheme, and not being in any way interested, their opinion would be valuable, inasmuch as it would be entirely impartial. And then, further, it seemed to him that the resident churchmen of those parishes ought to have something to say with regard to those schemes which affected their spiritual interests so materially. Betore any scheme was settled the ap- proved scheme sbou d first of all be submitted to the consideration of all the parties concerned. Amend- ments and plans could be entertained up to a certain date, and then, when everybody had had their say the scheme could be finally settled. It did seem tj him that in such a scheme as that, when the Com- missioners were proposing such changes in public matters, the public ought to have some voice in the discussion of it before it was finally settled, and by so doing he thought they would be doing good sur- vice to the country. Rev. L. Lewis said he had signed all the necessary papers in reference to the scheme. It was proposed that Tstrad and Segrwyd should be added to Whit- church. Mr Hughes was willing that Ystrad should be annexed to Denbigh, and Mrs Mostyn was of the same opinion as regards Segrwyd; but Canon Thomas would not hear of anything of the kind, and would only accede to that part of the scheme wtich he approved off, Segrwyd and Ystrad were now in Llanrhaiadr parish. Mr Gold Edwards thought that what the chair- man had said was deserving of their consideration. The rector had signed papers, and it appeared to him that the parties most interested in the subject were not consulted about it. The parish of Denbigh knew nothing at all of the subject. Mr Rawlins knew nothing of it from Llaorhaiadr. and he (Mr Edwards) knew nothing about it from Denbigh. Rev. L. Lswis said they had only signed prelimin- ary papers to enable Burton and Duddon to draw up the maps, and when the thing was in a position to be brought before the vestry it would be brought before them. Toe territorial part of the business would be submitted to the Commissioners, and thev would annex what they thought proper in each case. He believed the other parishes signed the same preliminary agreement. The Chairman said there could be no doubt that the matter would be proceeded with in some shape or form, but how ? That was the question. It might be done so as to cause after the completion of the arrangement, extreme dissatisfaction, and if they, as a representative body, were to do anything, now was the time. They might proceed by memorialis- iug the Bishop of Bangor on the subject, or that association by some means might give its opinion that those who were conesrned should have an op- portunity of discussing the scheme before it was finally settled. Very strong feeling was entertained upon the subject out of doors, and he was only expressing what he had heard when he gave utter- ance to these sentiments there. Rev. L. Lewis intimated that the subject could not come before a body as a whole; it must come in two separate parts. Mr Edwards: We don't know anything at all about it. Let it come in parts. I must say that the parish ought to be consulted. I feel very strongly upon the subject. The Dean of St. Asaph: Would it not be desirable as none of those gentlemen are here, and we have no report at all of what they have done, for the secretary to be requested to write to the chairman to sail for a report, and if necessary to call a special meeting to consider it P The Chairman I have had a conversation with with one or two of the members of the committee appointed to report, and I think that all they will be able to tell us is that the matter is before the Bishop of Bangor, and is being proceeded with. We shall then be in the same position as we are at present. Mr Wynne thought the question a very serious one. A person found himself in one parish one morning, and on the next^heard that Lis spiritual in. terests were turned over to somebody else. The Rev. Thomas Williams moved—That no arrangement of boundaries or revenues of parishes be carried out or submitted to the Ecclesiastical Commissioners without being nrst submitted to the parishioners of the respective parishes in vestry assembled. Rev. R. O. Hughes said that in accepting that resolution there would be considerable difficulties arising. If they multiplied councillors he feared no changes would be brought about. The Chairman said the object of such a course would Jte to hear the pros and cons of all parties before finally deciding. Mr Wynne seconded the motion. Mr Eawlins moved as an amendment-That, inasmuch as we have already appointed a sub committee to confer with the Bishops of Bangor atid St. Asaph upon this subject, and have no report from them, and are in total ignorance as to whJ. has been done in it on any oceasion on the part of the association, the matter stand over until we have a report from those gentle-nf n. Mr E Iwarda: The Commissioners have nothing to do with it, therefore you need not ask them. The persons you have to ask are the Bishops and the respective incumbents. The Chairman I apprehend the Commissioners have to carry out the views of the Bishep by Act of Parliament. Mr E twarda Only the financial part of it. They have nothing to do with the territorial part of it. After some remarks from Mr Rawlius, his amend- ment was seconded by Rev. R. O. Hughes. The motion was carried with only three dis- sentients. THE STATE OF LLANDCLAS PARISH. I At the last meeting of the committee a letter was read from the Rev. J. Davies. Llanddulas rectory, calling attention to the state of his parish. The subject was then postponed until this meeting, when it was again brought forward. Th, letter stated that a portion of the large parish of Abergele abutted on that of Llandulos, which was thought it would be well to annex to the latter parish. He (the writer) might state that it came within 20 yards of his parish churchyard, and the parishioLers of Aber- gele pariabl penetrated.'quite into the heart of his parish, and itt cases of baptism, sickness, &c., they were always in the baiit of coming to him, and he had alwavs attended to them in the same way as be did to his own parishioners. The Vicar of Aber- gele was anxious to make some such arrangement, and the Bishop also had signified his approval of it tie might just mention that the nett income was only i £ l20 a year, and totally inadequate to the sup- port of a clergyman in such a place as that, where there was so large a population of working men. Dr. Tumour read some abstracts from a report, showing that the Ecclesiastical Commissioners derived a very large income from the parish of Abergele, there being in the parish 9000 acres ot land, with a population of 3000, and only one church in it. Tue Chairman said they would be very glad to assist Mr Davies in any way they could to a just and sufficient salary. The Dean of St. Asaph thought the best thing to be done was to appoint a small committee to confer with the Bishop upon the subject. That course would be better than any representation they might make by a formal resolution. This suggestion was acted upon, and Mr W. B. Wynne and Eev. R. O. Hughes were appointed a committee to confer with the Bishop upon the subject. The meeting then separated.

ST. ASAPH GRAMMAR SCHOOL. THE BISHOP ON SCHOOL MANAGEMENT. The friends of the St. Asaph Grammar School met on Saturday last in the National Schoolroom, St. Asaph, to consider the new scheme recently framed by the Endowed Schools Commissioners for the future management of the school. The Lord Bishop of St. Asaph was in the chair, and amongst those present were the Dean of St. Asaph, Rev. VV. Hicks Owen, Tremerchion; Rev. D. E. Thorns s, Cefn; Rev. Moreton, succentor of St. Asaph Cathedral; Rev. John Sturkey, Rev. T. B Brown, Rev. Watkin Williams, Bodelwyddan; Rev. Dr. jasterbey, Grammar School; Capt. Thomas, Bryn Elwy; Mr Chambres, Dolben; Mr Kymn Roberts, Mr Peter Robplts, Mr Roberts, Beyi-try Office; Mr Lloyd, the Mills; Mr A. Atkins, Mr E. Hughes, &c. His Lordship, in opening the proceedings, said one of his objections to the scheme proposed by the Endowed Schools Commissioners was that it in- tended to sever the connection which had so long existed between the school and the Cathedral. He considered that no benefit could possibly be gained by this, while all parties would be benefitted by the school remaining as it was; for he believed the time would never eome when the Deans and Canons of the Cathedral would not be fit and proper persons to take part in the management of the school. He believed that all parties could confide in them, knowing that they would be careful to see that a sound religious instruction was imparted. Another reason why he objected to the school being severed frum the Cathedral was that the choristers were educated at the school, and everybody would admit that it was desirable that the choristers should be educated at a school which was under the super- vision of the Cathedral body. (Hear, hear.) He did not mean that it should be exclusively under their management, for he had no objection to other gentlemen being admitted if they held distinctive religious views, but what he really was afraid of was that persons could, and indeed would, under the present scheme be appointed as governors whose views were not only antagonistic to the principles of the Church of England, but antagonistic to even religion itself. And he must say that he should very much prefer to see the school placed under the supervision of the Calvinistic Methodists, Wesleyans, Independents, Baptists, or any other religious body than that it should be governed in the manner proposed in the scheme before them. (Hear, hear.) If the Church of England was not to be trusted with the management, then, he would say, let it be placed in the bands of any body of religious men, who would take broad views on the subject, but would see that religious instruction was imparted to the rising generation. He was con- vinced that it would be almost as well to have no education at all than to have it without the religious element infused into it. The school had always been a Cathedral school, and they therefore ought to main- tain as such, for if they did not it was very possible that men would be appointed as governors who would have no religion at all, and the result would be that it would not be at all desirable to have the young members of the Cathedral body educated there. He would repeat that he did not wish to exclude govenors 'of other religious denominations, but he did hold most strongly that it would imperil the future welfare of the country, and endanger the constitution with which they had been blest, if they ailowed that class of persons for whose especial benefit such schools as theirs had been established to be brought up without religious instruction. (Hear, hear.) In France and other countries where educa- tion had been imparted without religion, or with a false religion, its effects had been to demoralise men, and had proved disastrous to all classes of society. With regard to the working of the scheme he con- sidered that it would be to the interest of those who were separated from the Church that tiley should work in harmony with and have the 'full benefit ef the assistance of the body who formed the members of the Cathedral. Indeed, it would be to the interests of all parties to co operate in seeking to obtain that which would be for the benefit of the school. Looking at the clause of the scheme which sets forth "The constitution of the governing body," it appeared that only two members of the Cathedral body could be nominated, and those only on the condition that they should contribute .£50 a-year each to the school. Now the chapter had no money at their disposal to devote to such an object, and consequently that condition would fall to the ground; and without the Dean or any other member thought fit to contribute such a sum from their private purs" the Cathedral would not have the power to nominate a single governor. This was a serious consideration, because the school was one which should be depended upon for the early training of the future m ni->ter> of the Church in the diocese. It was particularly adapted for this, being under the shadow of the Mother Church of the diocese, and if there was any school which they ought to look to as being suitable for the early training of their ministers it wai that one. Amongst the subjects to be taught, they fOllud in the scheme that the one most essential to a young man thinking of entering the ministry, viz., the language in which the New Testament was written —Greek—was excluded, and not even the rudiments of it were to be taught. This would have the tffect of placing boys in a very awkward and unfair position. Suppose a boy left St. Asaph school and entered Ruthin school at 12 or 14 years of age. He would have to work either in a class with boys of his own age, or in one with boys much younger than himself; if in the former h9 would have to compete with boys who had studied Greek, and who could read Greek authors, and probably were able to translate a Greek play, while he would have to commence to learn the very rudiments of the language. He considered that if this subject were taken away it would be a great disadvantage to the school, and it would be particularly objectionable to those boys who were intended to enter the higher schools. Seeing that the ab- ence of Greeks would be so disadvantageous to the school he thought they all should endeavour to have it made oue of the subjects to be taught. There was one rema-k which he ought to make, and that was that he had received information that it was very possible that the schemes of the Endowed Schools Commissioners would have to be reconsidered, and it appeared to him that it wonld be wiser for them to wait a little until public feeling had been consulted by the Com- missioners, and nntil Government had had an opportunity of considering the schemes, and their future action thereon had been ascertained. If, however, they agreed with what he had said respect- ing the scheme they could draw up resolutions, which could be presented to the Commission rs in London. His lordship concluded by inviting further discussion upoa the subject. The Dean of St. Asaph said he had not sufficiently studied the scheme to speak very fully on the subject, but it occurred to him that it wa a far more important thing fer the Grammar School to have a good schoolhouse and master than to have endow- ments. If the first want—the schoolrooin-was I supplied they would, he felt sure, Lave a good school, whether they bad endowments or not. Tile only chance he saw of getling that was to enlarge the trust by admitting m)re persons into it. The school had always beeii a Cathedral school, and if they re- tained it as such, the question arose how they could get a good schoolhouse, and really have the school established upon a good footing. The Detn and Chapter had no funds to contribute to tha income of the school as endowment, and all they could possible do wouli be to educate the eho'isters; but, on the I other hand, if the education of tha school was not upon a religious basis he did not think the Dean and Chapter would be likely to educate the choriatera there for t1. ey wou d even find Bome other means of educating them. The great want, however, was a good building and bou,;e for the school. The school room at present was iiot in a satisfactory condition under any circumstances und to make it so he ihoughb it would be wise to enlarge the number of persons at the head of it. The Chairman said he had not the slightest wish to limit the number of the governing body, and he would not limit it to members of the Church of England, but What he did hold was that they should not exclude the Dean aud Chapter from the x'officio members if they wished the school to be well looked after. Captain Thomas said he thought it was somewhat premature to raise the question of a new building; they ought fir,t to set le the basis upon which the school should be carried on. — tt i AL-i Xl- The Nev. n,cxi vwen tnougnù bLItSU in lin" governing bo:iy t.ei-a ought to he one of the trustees of the charity which at present provided part of the endowment of the school. He did not approve of the school being distinctly a Cathedral school, but he bought the guviruors should be composed of men of all opinions, and this he believed would further the interests of the school. If they looked at the large towns they would find that the young people educated at the board schools did not lack religious instruction for although it was not taught at the schools, it was taught them at home, and by the clergy aud ministers. He hoped that school woald be placed upon a broad looting, and he had no fear of the pupils lacking religious instruction. On the other hand, be felt sure that if the school were made a Cathedral tcuool it would not in future rdceive the general -upport of the public. The Chairman said that at present the proposed scheme excluded the Cathedral body altogether. Dc. Easterby baid the Commissioners were bound by the terms of the Act of Parliament under which they proceeded to make such a clause respecting the governing body as t )ey had done, namely, that of not holdiug any distinctive religious views should be no bar to the election of any governor. A discussion here ensued upon the legality of an ecclesiastic holding office as an ex-officio governor. Tois, it was stated, was a poltion of the scheme which would have to be reconsidered by the Cow- missioners, in consequence of the different con* structiou placed upon the words of the Act by the law officers of the Crown and the present Lord Chancellor. Mr Chambres sail that as a layman he could express the feelings of the people on the subject. He felt quite sure that a scheme which would not meet with the approval of the most influential- persons in the place would be of no good to the schools, and he was satisfied that the wisest and best course to pursue was that set forth by his lordship to the effect that a resolution be forwarded to the- Commissioners, informing them that the scheme in its present form was not acceptable to the people in that neighbourhood, and requesting that it be postponed for the present. He could not tell them how it was he was named in the scheme as one of the future governors, lor be was opposed to the work as it was being done by the Commissioners, He was also opposed to the action of Parliament in setting those gentlemen to the task they had before them, and he thought they had mistaken the feelings of the country with regard to both schools and charities. Who under present circumstances would leave money for the support of particular charities or schools, for how would they know but what it would be applied to quite different purposes to what they intended it ? He would repeat that it would be the wisest policy to send the scheme back and wait a few months, when probably there would be some other scheme brought forward for the management of the schools generally. Every practical man must know that no scheme would be productive of good which did not receive the support of the people of the neighbourhood in which the school was placed. Mr Peter Roberts said he should be sorry if it went forth that the scheme did not meet with the approval of the parishioners of St. Asaph, for he believed a very large portion of them agreed with the scheme in all its important points. He. how- ever, agreed with a good deal of what had been said there, and he hoped they would all work harmo- niously together, and that they would succeed in getting a first-class school for the city. On one point they were all agresd—that they needed a good school, and they might make their present one a good one if they went the right way about it. He was deeply interested in the question, for he had two boys at the school, where he hoped to see them well educated He hoped also that the time would never arrive when boys could not meet there on an equal footing. He thought the time had gone by wtien they should endeavour to connect the school with any religious body. All religious bodies should be placed on an equal footing, and by that means they would be able to obtain a good school The committee of management ought to be composed of such men as all religious bodies could place confi- dence in, and by whom they could feel they were represented. For his own part, he had no fear as to the future of the school. It seemed to him that in a place like that there never could be twelve gentle- men elected to be governors of the school who would be entirely irreligious. Of such an event as that there was not the slightest danger (bear.) He believed every man in the town was interested in the religious education of the young, but he did not believe they couid secure it or de any good by setting one religious denomination before another. Uuder the present scheme he thought the Cathedral body would be quite safe. The Holy Scriptures would be taught in the school, but to teach a certain c.te chism of any particular denomination would be objectionable to many people. Whatever might be a person's religious views, his child would be pro- tected by the introduction of a stringent conscience clause. Much ha4 been said about the exclusion of the Cathedral body, but he confessed he failed to see how it had been excluded-it had simply been placed on an equal footing with the other denomina- tions. The Dean and Chapter had a right to nomi- nate certain representatives, while amongst the gentlemen named as co-operative" governors, five belonged to the Church of England, while he was the only Non-conformist. The other six were to be elected by the parish, and he thought the parish was as likely to e!ect representatives of the Cathe- dral as anybody else; indeed, if there was only one party likely to obtain a larger share of representa- tives than another it was the Cathedral body. He should be glad if they could have a good scheme which everybody could accept, for St. Asaph had many advantages for a ai ammar school. The Rev. D. E. Thomas said he should not have objected to the scLeme if it had not been for a new school built and kept by rates, but that school was a Cathedral school, and its connection With the Cathedral could be traced so far back as the reign of Edward VI. in 1548. He thought the trustees of Miss Williams's Charity should be represented at the Board. He took objection to what had been advanced by Mr P. Roberts, whose arguments fell bo the ground through his having forgotten the orikin of the school. Mr Kyffin Egberts was of the opinion of Mr P. Roberts, that the scheme was a satisfactory one Che fact thar, tLc e" hedi-al body were prevented b,ing ex-officio Loveinri 4tid not exclude them from )eitig co-operative governor. It would be impos- sible to exclude t.he Cathedral body, as they would dways be the wot infliential portion of the iarishioners. He considered that a representative mght to be elected lor the trustees of Miss Wil- iam's Charity, an al o th Lt the present trustees should still ha e the in n luement of the property instead of it being ve-ted in the commissioners. The Rev. Johu Sturkey, as one of the trustees, said Miss Willi im* had provided in her will that one-half of the income of the property should be spent in providing clot-hing for the poor, and the other half for educational purposes. The trustees had promised to pay over to the commissioners the moiety of the income, which would be about .£76 a-year. A lengthened and desultory conversation took "lace upon the state of this property, after which it was stated that the Vicars of St. Asapb, who are the trustees, bad protested against the management of the property being transferred from them to the commissioners. The Chairman repeated the necessity of the scheme being altered so as to obtain the representa- tion of the Dean and Chapter without the payment of the X.50 each, as at present provided. The Dean w,.s quite of the same opinion. He thought all parties would be satisfied if the Cathe- dral body and the vicars of the parish, who were the trustees of Miss Williams's Charity, were fairly represented. The discussion was continued for some time, and ultimately the following alterations were made in th-s seheme:—Prop >sed by Mr Kyffin Roberts, and seconed by Mr Perer Roborts-" That considering the early and long connection that has existed between the Grammar School and the Cathedral and that the choristers have been and are likely still to be educated there, it is desirable that Clause 5 be so altered as to provide for the Dean and one of tho Vicars of St. Asaph being elected as ex-ofifcio governors. It was decided to add to C!ause 58, which relates to the subjects to be taught in the schools —it was decided to adfl Greek and Political Economy.' In Clause 43 it is provided that any boy misconducting himself night 'b-o expelled from the choo\, and the case reported to the governors,' but on the proposition of Mr K Eoberts it waa decide d to alter the word exnaiT?! to 'suspended.' The clause which provides ? the boarding of pupils in which the head masterata? that the charge for board and education shall £ X35, and it was deeded to recommend the tomm? sioners to fix the sum at .£. It wu atao?? to recommend to t he commi8ioner that the vi^ of St. Asaph should stiU have Xe management olf a Lila'ti^? ?r With.ms'a C?Stv in??? ? taken in hand a,,d ',tr0ild 0?? commis ?Rebe-r??? Wll1iarus and Mr K. Rob:ï Mr R6erts, R E ais^ try Office, were requested to t?ke char? of the ?em., and forward the alterato to the %ecretary of the cornmi3sionen '??' On the motion of Mr Chambres a vote of thanka was passed to his Lordship for presiding, and the I meeting then-separated.

Indian war a-e. He then proceeded to explain that wbeu be was nine 3etirti of age a Christian gentle man obHiiDcii the permission of his pareuis to educat,e him in an English settlement. Three years after he bad been takeii away, a message reached him intimating ttiat his tathiir, mother, and sister had b,.en shot by the United States troops. When he was iu bis nineteenth year he returned to his, native country as a missionary, auo. had boen in- struinenial in establishing sixteen missions, and eiffbty saboatn schools. The ltcturer concluded by aii,erting In I ulogistic terms to the freedom and liberti- 8 of England, and paid a graceful tribute to the cballict. r ot our nohle Quet,n.-A vote of thanks was passed to the R.v. E. Powell for his conduct in the chAir, and the meeting terminated. HOLYWELL. I t.1 the very wet season there I have bii-n several laiidsli;8 in the neighbourhood, some o' otlk wiuor importance, while others arc of strious ch.ra'ter. Ti ere has been oue or two on Brvufoni Hi 1, aud another opposite Lygan y Wc-rn, where a Dl"S" of some score of tons, including a Mrtiun ot a Sttd has fell down. Near Fiint uLo ?hpfe have ?Ben several, one fied being cracked all 0?er and some portions have fallen a depth of about two yar«:s. LOCAL BOARD, MONDAY P resent: Messrs J Will'1111" ,vi'r R Harrison. J. Garner, J. V Pow.li, P M. E?a?s, R. Sankey, Dr D?vies, and W. Davies (cleik). The buisuttce at the Boar's Head.—In answer to the cbairuiim the surveyor said that the work ordered by the board had not been completed and that the owner threatened to take the case before the Privy Council. (Laughter.) The clerk was in- structed t i issue the necessary summons in order to compel him to comply with the requirements of the Board- mi ,iV The Hate.— ice surveyor said ttial wnn lew ex- ceptions e had collected the rate made last June. A Mr Baldwin had refused to pay his quota-X2, and the Clerk was instructed to summon him. The survejor 111"0 added that he had been uuable to take out the fiie-ei.gme during the past month, as he had no mot ey. The Market Hall.-The clerk read a letter from Capt. Penuaut to Mr Edward Jones, Pendre, in which he stated that with reference to the proposed site as it was the best available he was unwiliiug that his private interests should stand in the way ot the welfare of the town, and that he was willing that the matter should stand over until the next elec iou. The chairman thought the lttter a very kind oil?, and the clerk was directed to thank Capt. Pennant on behalf of the Board. Letting the Well.—Tiie Cbairman read a letter from the R v. Dr. Pietro in which the rev. gentle- man saul that having spoken to several members of the board Le woud advance jC20 on the bid he made at tl-e auction. Therefore he would give X140 a year for the well and pay the rates and taxes, or be w utd give CI62 and the ra!es and taxes to be be paid by the boar 1. Or if the board preferred he would take the well on a lease for 21 years, at the term*, if they would give him the option of giving it ul, every 7 years.—In answer to Mr P. M. Evans the clerk said that only two attended the auction- Father Pietro and himself. The first bid was X100, and then be (the clerk) put in the reserved price fixed upon by the board X 175, and Mr Pietro sprang £ 20. and now he offered £ 140.—Mr Evans said his offer wa, stdl less by L35 than the reserved price.— Mr E. Harrison said that the net receipts of the board were only t9o a year, and be proposed that the weil be let to Father Pietro.—Mr Evans on the other hand thought it would be better to delay the question lor a month, when they might have a better offer.—Mr Harrison thought it was better to con- clude the bargain then.—Mr Evans did not think they cuul.l legally conclude it, as a month's notice of the mo ion was ieqtiired.-A long conversation ensued about the legality of the motion and even. tually it was decided to call an extraordinary meet. ing of the Board when tie motion of Mr Harrison wili be «ii>cu>sed and decided on. The Waterworks Company applied for permission to cut up the streets tor laying down their pipes and other plants, and it was agreed that consent should be given subject to the regulations before decided upon by the board. COUNTY COURT, MONDAY.—Before R. Vaughan Williams. E.-q., judge. There were two judgment summonses and 52 new cases inter d, most of which were disposed of by the Regit..ar-D. Prgh. E-q. A Cistigation.—Tlu ie was a case entered by R. Jones, Mwstyn, against Elizabeth Griffiths, but the defendant wiote !o the Registrar asking for an ad. journment on sume ground. His Honour read it and Mr Jones characterised one of the statements as a lie." H s Honour said no one had a right to use such language, and a man was only disgracing himself by inducing in it, and if Mr Jones used it again he would send hin to gaol, as he would not have such language in his court. A Mining Dispute.—John Parry v. Goodman Etiif, Mr\V Davies appearing for the defendant. The action was brought to recover XI 10s. 41. due for work done in a mine in which the defendant was a i-ariner. The |iia:n:iff said that the other partners Lad paid the talis made upon them, but the defend- ant refused to p y aud hence the present action was brought to recover. Mr Davies bubmitted that the plaintiff could hot bring the action and that it must be brought ty the secretary, but His Honour said the plaintiff couli sue either of the partners by whom Le was ernploycd. The calls were then proved in the regular way. The p'aintiff in cross examina- tion saio that be received no notice from the defend ant that hf would discontinue paying the calls, but on the 23rd of September the defendant told him that be would pay no more calls until he received a corrected account. Neither did he say that he would not he accountable to plaintiff for any more wages Mr Davies th n called the defendant who said that he bad jointd in the mine about 9 years ago, ai d had paid his calls regularly every month since until lately he obj 'ct.ed owing to a call being made upon him for X3 when it t-houlri hClve been only X2 412 1. He had given notice to Mr Hughes, the treasurer, to produce a letter which he bad written to him stating he would not pay anything unless he re- ceived a proper account. That was written on the 17th of July.—Mr Hughes, the treasurer, said he had received a letter from Mr Ellis but had hitnded it over to the secretary.—The secretary was called but said he had BO letter from Mr Hughes.—The plaintiff said that had nothing to do with his case as he worked in the Speedwell mine, while the letter referred to the Gladstone mine.—Defendant: Yes it did.—The Judge: I think yoa have got into the wrung mine.-Mr Davies Yes your Honour, and a barren one too I am afraid.— Plaintiff: I have nothing to do with Gladstone. (Laughter) The Judge held that the words spoken by defendant to plaintiff, was not in a legal notice, and judgment would be for the plaintiff for the whole amount with costs. There was a case of Benjamin Hugkes v. Goodman Ellis, which was the Gladstone" case, and this was adjourned to the next court for the production of the letter. BOARD OF GUARDIANS, FRIDAY, JANUARY HJTR, 1873.-The guardians present were—The Bight Hon. Lord Mostyn (chairman), and G. P. Koskell, Esq. Holywell-Mr Thomas Owens, Mr P. M. Evans, and Mr Gilbert Howell; Ysceifiog Mr John Williams and Mr William Davies; Newmarket-Mr Edward Davies; Northop-Mr Thomas Webster; Flint—Mr John Davies Mold Mr T. W. Bowdage; Whitford—Mr Alfred Parry; Halkin-Mr Thomas Parry. An Extraordinary Acci(Zent.-& case which revealed an accidt nt of a very peculiar nature ap. peared upon the books of the Mold relieving officer, in the form of an application for out-relief for the family of a man named Evan Roberts, at present in the infirmary. About four years ago a gun burst and a piece of the barrel, about an inch long, struck the man on the forehead, and there it remained without tte man beins aware of it until it came through the roof of Lis mouth. tampers in the House.—The Master's report shewed th -t the number of inmates in the house last Board day was 172; there had been sin e ad. mitted 4; dischargtd 8 and 1 death present tiura- her, 167. Number of vagrants admitted during the fortnight, 14. Payment oj Cheques.-Cleques to a considerable amount were signed in payment of the quarterly tradesmen's bills. Cheques to the following amounts were also signed for the relieving officers for the payment of out-relief, and also for tha payment of school bills :—Mr Joseph Griffiths. Mold, £ 155; Mr William Hughes, Holywell, t 1,55; Mr J. F. Hooson, Whitford, X110. County E:cpenditu.re.-A letter was read from T. T. Kelly, Esq., deputy clerk of the peace for the county, forwarding an order of the Court of Quarter Sessions relative to the resolution passed at the Board on the 21st ult.. calling the attention of the magistrates to the excessive expeniitare of county and polica rates in Flintshire as compared with Den- bighshire. The Court had referred the subject to the Finance Committee, and that they report upon the subject next Session, and in the meantime that the guardians be requested to send a deputation to attend the meeting of the committee, and that they also supply a statement shewing the particular ex- penditure which they considered excessive.—The Clerk said th subject was brought before the Board by Mr E. p, Jonee, and he-askei whether it would be better that he should send a synopsis of that state. ment to the Clerk of the Peace P—Mr P. M Evans said the statement made by Mr E. P. Jones was not an official one on the part of that Board, and they could got be responsible for all the statements made by iL ii it)Ugil guardians.—The Clerk said that would certainly be so, but the guardians generally acquiesced in the statement then made, and that Was the reason the resolution was sent to the Quar- ter Sessions.—Mr P. M. Evans thought that the object had been attained by calling attention to the matter, and the subject had better drop.—Mr Alfred Parry said that the Board did not confine itself to any particular items, bjit to the general extravagance of the county rate. The Board thought that the expenditure was higher than in Denbighshire, and lie found that the county rate was less iq other counties than it was in Flin^hire.—Mr Bowdage be- lieved that the new gaol made the expenditure in this county very high. He thougat it was a ques. tion wnich could be met, and it would be very well to ventilate it.—He wasoaetf those who Relieved the magistrates would do all in their power to keep down the expenditure, and they wou:d do all that ,e"nld bu £ ASON XBTY expected of them. He proposed that Mr E. P. Jones, Mr Alfred Parry, and Mr J. S Williams should be appointed the deputation to meet the, FtumLice Committee of mag strates.—Mr Thomas Owens seconded the mo ion.—Mr Alfred P..r. y saiu h; should certaiuly decline to act on the committee, lor if they suggested anything the magistrates would only turn round and pojii pooh." them, as they had dune before when they were tomg to coustruct the new gaol, which he maintained was one of the greatest bungles" ever made. What was tLe use of their going to Moid wheu the magistrates there could carry anythin., as they liked. He said the ex en iiture of this county was higher than the expend.ture in anj other county in r ngian 1 except two,—Mr Bowdage said no doubt the magistrates would give them a correct state- ment.—Mr Alfred Parry said no doubt they would; but was it ni-cessary that all the money bhoutl be spent.—Mr Bowdage theu substituted the name 01 ,Alr C -,rbett upon the committee iu place of A r A. P4: the motion was d clared carried, Mr Alfred Parry said he should like to have the "ene ot tae Boaid whe.her the guardians would send a deputatiJU to Uol,j.-Mr Bowdage having referied to the circa instances under whicu the question hai arisen, aud repeated that he had full coutidence that the magistrates would do what was right.—Mr P. M. Evans said Le thought the statement made by Mr E. P. Jones would have a salutary effeist, and since its object will have been accomplished they had better let it remaiu as it was. Mr E. P. Jones iai-i he had heard that the new gaol had cost £ 42,000 aud Lie should like to know whether that was true, but since then t.,io,e figures had been brought dowu to £ 22,000, and that was a gieat reduction.—Tue noble Cnairman thought they had better agree to the proposition of the Court of Quarter Sessions for he did not see that any harm could be doue, but some good may follow.—The resolution, as amended was theu carried. I'he Maintenance of Pauper Lunatics.—Mr Allred Parry said he had asked the clerk to furnisii them With a copy of the report that had been sent to the quarter sessions of the lunatics maintained at the asylum at the expense of the Union, and he pro- posed that the names of persons who were able to maintain their relatives and diii not do so should be made public, tor there were several persons able to maintain their relatives, who, if not legally, were moiaily, bound to do so. In one case there was a very rich man, who was goinz on building and buy- ing property, who had a sister in the asylum at the expense the Uuion. He should think that man must be either very destitute of feeling or be very fond of money to allow such a thing.-After con- siderable discussion it was agreed, oa the motion of Mr Otvens, seconded by Mr Gilbert Howell, that the clerk write to the several persons who were pointed out as able to maintain their relatives in the asylum; and also that he write to the asylum authorities enquiring whether there were some per- sons kept there who could be dealt with in the Workhotfse. County Rate.-A precept for a county and police rate of 7601. 9s 4d for the quarter was received, which was considerably less than the one for the, preceding quarter. HANMER. BABY FARMING AT WELLINGTON.—On Monday last, an inquest was held at SArn Bridge, Threap- wood, btifoie Peter Parry, E-q., deputy coroner for Flintshire, upon the body of the illegitimate cLild of Emma Davies, when the following evidence was taken: Esther Matthews, wife of Thomas Matthews, labourer, Malpas, said-I knew a child of the name of Elizabeth Ann Davies, now dead. I was at the child's birth and dressed it. It was about the end of May, 1872, but I don't know the date. It was well up to about three months old, when it was taken ill, and it was sent to Dr. Parker's, and Dr. Parker gave it medicine. The child got better, bat was never well after. She was suffering from diarrhoea, and had it twice over at intervals of two or three weeks. I had the child in all about seven mouths, tken it had got to eat anything that was going about the house. I am no relation of the child and the child has not been fathered. Emma Davies never told me who the father of the child was. The child had never any convulsions while I had it. I had 3s per week for taking care. of the child. Mr Phillips paid me, and said it was out of her wages. She was housemaid at Mr Phillips's. I think she told me she had 101. 10s per annum. I never saw the child from the day it left my custody until to-day in the coffin, and I believe it to be the same child I nursed. I don't know the woman the child went to from me. I never saw the woman but twice before to day. The next witness was Caroline Jones, wife of George Jones, shoemaker, Willington, who said I know the little child of the name of Elizabeth Ann Davies, now dead. She died in my house on Tuesday, January 7tb, 1873. It was not my child it was my husband's step daughter's illegitimate child. It is not nine months' old yet. About six weeks ago the mother (Emma Davies) wrote to her step father to ask him to take the child for awhile. 1 went to fetch the child in a few days after, and brought the child back with ase. I did think the child was then ill. I had to bring it 3 to 3t miles. It was not very cold nor very warm. As soon as we could get some meat ready for the child the child's mother gave her some, but the child did not enjoy it. We were to have 2s 3d per week for the keep of the child, but we have had none as yet. We had made all arrange- ments about the funeral. I had no certificate from the registrar. I hai a certificate from Mr Parker, surgeon, but did not take it to the registrar. The day before the child died I made some food of flour and water. I gave it about a pint during the day. I got up about seven a.m., and left the child in bed, and it was awake. In a quarter of an hour I went upstairs again and brought the child down to the fire, it being very ill. Toe child would not eat any meat then. That was an hour afterwards. I did not send for a doctor. I put the child to my breast; the child suckled n:e for about three weeks. My own child is about four months old.—The next witness called was John Parker, surgeon, Willing- ton, Hanmer, who said: I made a post-mortem examination on the body of a feluale infant, aged about nine months, in company with Air William Price, surgeon. External apnearances showed an extreme state of emaciation, 4flbs. in weight, which was fully developed, there being no external injuries. Tha brain, lungs, and stomach were healthy, the stomach being full, and containing about a teaspoon- fulof creamy juice. J\o ulceration or inflammation of the bowels. the remaining organs being in a healthy condition and of normal size. It is possible that the bowels might have been emptied by natural causes, bnt must be owing to very great weakness.- Mr William Ptice, surgeon, Marchwiel, corroborated the above statement.-A. verdict was returned ot Died from exhaustion, from want of proper food and care." LLANGOLLEN. FORTNIGHTLY MEETINGS.—Ou Friday, the 10th inst the 8th of a series of the abeve meetings was held in the Assembly Rooms, Llangollen, under the presidency of Thomas Tinley Barton. Esq. Avondale. The following is a list of the perform- ances :—Anthem, "Our soul waiteth," by the Castle-street Baptist Choir lecitation, Ti fnost dy hunan yn plentyn," Master Richard Egberts; seng, Good bye," Master Levi Pugh recitation, Taw pia hi boys," Master J. Jones anthem, "0, Love the Lord," Castle-street Baptist Choir reci- tation, "The child's first prayer," Master B. E. Jones, Erw, Wen duet pianoforte, Mrs and Miss Craveo, Llantysilio Farm; address, the Rev. G. Davies; anthem, 0 praise the Lord," Castle- screet Baptist Choir; reading, 61 Mother's last words," Master T. Burt; trio, The Wreath," Mrs Craven, Llautysilio: Mr J. LI. Joues, ittaiiel manufacturer, and Mr S. Hughes, Glandwfr; reci- tation, Hen Feibl drylliedig," Master R. Roberts; song, The Village Blacksmith," Rev. Getbyu Davies reading, The drunkard's dream," Mr J. P. Richards anthem, I was glad," Castle-street Bap ist choir; finale, Gjd save the Qieen." The singing of Good bye," by Master Levi Pugh was very much aud deservtd'y applauded; Mrs Craven and Miss Craven also, in playing the duet on the pianoforte were much applauded. The Rev. G. Davies's singing was not so good at this meeting as on former occasions, although his address was a very able and humourous one. The Castle-streei choir, under the conductorship of Mr J. T. Robert- gave their anthems in an excellent manner. The attendance was very good. ESTIMATES FOR THE ENSUING YKAR.—A meet- ing of the ratepayers of Llangollen was held in the Assembly Rooms, on Wednesday, January 15th, to take into consideration the rate which was about to be made by the Llangollen School Board. Mr W. Jones, Dolfawr, was voted to the chair.—Mr John Thomas, ironfounuer addressed the meeting at some length, and stated that he had been informed that the Local Board were about to levy a rate of 2s. lOd. in the pound, while he was of opinion that -2s, 4d. would suffice the expenditure if it was done economically, and proposed a resolution to that effect, which was seconded by Mr Thomas Nichols, Hill-street.- An amendment was proposed and seconded that the rate for the rate for the year be 2s. 9d.-When put to the meeting about a dt zen were uplifted for the amendment, and above fifty for the motioB of Mr Thomas.—The following resolution, proposed by Mr John Morris, draper, and seconded by Mr John Rowlands, grocer, was passed That the unfinished state of the streets of Llangollen does not warrant such an expenditure as tiling the parapets, to be done out of the public rates, and that we consider the tileing of the parapets should be done by the owners of property wherever situated."—A resolu- tion that the foregoing resolutions be sent to the chairman of the Local Board for the consideration of the board was passed. SCHOOL BOARD, JAN. 13TH.—Present:—Mr W. Coward (oba rman), Mr W. Parry, Mr R. Griffiths, and Mr J. Thomas. The minutes of the last meeting were read and confirmed. Inspector's Reports.-The Clerkread the reports of her Majesty's Inspector of Schools, for Llangollen and Vron, which were considered highly satisfac- tory nptn the wiole. The amount of grant received was JE164 lis 91 for Llangollen, and £19 h 10i 10d for Vron, after u aking the usual de- ductions. New Scho.-ils.-It wa-, moved by Mr Griffith, seconded by Mr Parry, and carried, that the Clerk write to the Education Department in reply to their letter of the 7th of December, with reference 10 the erection of new schools at Llangollen, ask- ing for copies of the reports both of Her Majesty's Inspector of Schools, and the Inspector of returns, together with auy other correspondence that may have had their L ,rdships' cons'derat;ou in forming an opinion upoa the question of the new buildings. Expenditure. -Mii ved by Mr Griffith, seconded by Mr Thomas, that in consequence of certain false reports having been circulated, with refer- ence to the expenditure of the Board, that the Clerk be instructed to prepare a full statement, intended for circulation, showing the receipts aud disbursements of the Board for the last School Board year. SPECIAL SESSIONS, THURSDAY, January 16t -Before Capt. C. R. W. Tottenham, Plas Ber- wyn, and G. Ll. Dickin, Esq., Tyndwfc. Drunk and Riotous.-Hugh Hughes, labourer, Vron, Llangollen, was brought up on a warrant, charged with being drunk and riotous on the 14th of December in Bridge-street. The case had been brought before the magistrates at the last petty sessions, but the defendant not appearing then, a warrant for his apprehension was requested, which had been carried out by P.C. Phoenix. The defendant upon being changed, admitted theoffenc-, and the magistrates inflicted a penalty of £ 1, and the costs, 14s. 6d., in default 14 days imprison- ment. The defendant has been brought up for similar offences several times. I OSWESTRY. LECTURE.-On Monday evening, a lecture was delivered in the Primitive Methodist Chapel, by the Rev. James Ferguson, of Wem. The Mayor (J. Jones, Esq.) presided, and there was a large audience. The subject of the lecture was Popery, or the Book of the Mission," and was listened te with much attention. INCORPORATION, MONDAY, JAN. 13TH.-Pre. sent:-The Rev. P. G. Bentley (chairman), Messrs Edwards (vice-chairman;, Samuel Ward, E. W. Ward, E Jones, J. Salter. D. Eichards, the Rev E. P. Wilkinson. F. Rogers, Elias Griffiths, J. Williams, the Rev. B. Foulkes, J. Jones (Mayor), and E. Lloyd. Mr W. I. Bnll. clerk. Reports.-Tbe master reported the number in the house to be as follows:—First week, 147; second week, 141. The number of tramps relieved was-first week, 5 second week, 9. Amount ex. pended in out door relief-first week, 39J. 10s 2d second week, 38t 15s. Number relieved-first week, 597; second week, 588. The Oswestry and Llansilin Railway.The Clerk said he found that no personal guarantee could be given that the corporation property would, not be damaged by the proposed railway. He had therefore prepared a saving clause to be inserted in the Act, and had forwarded it to the solicitors for the railway, but had not heard from them in the matter, which rested there.—Mr Edward Jones did not bring the motion, of which he had given notice, for. ward.