The South Wales Daily Post

Mr George f 3?oflook. Senior Master 0' the S.. pretno Court and Queen's ftemembranoer. who j* over 80 years of age, WR «hcrv'v aibou;. to ■ ctire, The ofrhe will then jbc ;k,ob.L"

PEERS AND THEIR RIGHTS. LOKD SELBOKNE AND THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. THE QUESTION OF HIS SEAT. CONSTITUTIONAL ASPECT OF THE CASE. IMPORTANT DEBATE. The Press Association states that Lord Sel- I bome entered the House of Commons on Tues- day afterrocn during Mr. Courtney's speech at the opening of th" debate. and agam seated himself OIl the Front Bench below the end gallerieSj a. fposation reserved for members, although technically beyond the bar. Among the occupants of the Peers' Gallery during the debate were Lord Colendge, whose case led to appointment last session of the Vacating of Stats Committee, and also Earl Grey, who wts foimerly a member of ihe House of Com- mons. In the House of Commons on Tuesday night, Sir WILLIAM HARCOURT (Chancellor of the Exchequer) rosa to move "That a Select Committee be appointed to inquire ånd report whether the Hon. William Walde- grave Palmer, commonly called Viscount Wolmer, since his election to this House succeeded to the Karidom of Selborne in the Peerage xt the United Kingdom" He said I it was proposed to refer the question to a Select Committee for the purpose of ascertain- ing a ve"V simple point. He had no parti- cular preference for one Committee, over an- other iu a case of this kind. He regarded himself as the organ of the general feeling of the House. He should, of course, desire I that in a question of this large and wide- I reaching importance the feeling of the House should prevail. The point to be decidtd by the Conunittee would be simply che point— I which usually in such cases was ascertained I bv the Lord Chancellor, not by the House of Lords and not by the Committee of Privi- leges—whether the perion claiming a <5eat in the House of Lotas WM. ill fact, the person entitled to such a seat. His right hon. friend (Mr. Courtney) pioposed that the ques- tion should referred to the Select Committee on the House of Commons (Vacating of Seats). That was his original proposition, but he deferred to the wishes of the Leader of the Opposition. He hoped that the Committee would not take eleven months to decide the qllestion. C'FIear, hear," and laughter.) It must be distinctly understood that no Committee of the House of Commons couid decida this question. A great consti- tutional question was raised, and though, of course, the Húu1I!e of Commons would be glad to have any information or instruction the Committee could aiford it, it must be dis- I tinctly understood that the House of Com- moos. as a whole. and only the House of Commons. as a whole, could decide a question I of this character. (Hear, hear.) Mr. COURTNEY (L.U., Bodmin) said he ■agreed that no Committee, however autiion ',aU n, oould decide the question at issue, it must be decided either by the House at large or conceivably, where a legal or Constitutional question arose, by a court of law. Obviously, under no circumstances could it be decided by I a Committee of the House. Sir WILLIAM HAR* < >lTRT was under stood to say that he wouia await the report of I the Committee before taking further action, but he hoped the progress made by the Com- mittee would be accelerated. Mr. COURTNEy hoped :;0, too. The declaration, now made by the Chancellor of the Exchequer relieved him of any further dith- euity He did not care to which Committee tius small matter of fact was referred if it was understood that the great Constitutional ques- tion, which must be considered at no distant date by the House, would not be submitted to the judgment of the House until the House had the advantage of the assistance which might be given it by the conclusions of the Committee on Vacating Seats. Mr.BALFOUR (C., Manchester, E.) said that on the motion for the writ for Weat Edinburgh there must be a great Constitutional debate- probably settling the question which had been raised by his old friend Lord Selborne. That question would not, however, come up until the Committer, now sitting had reported. He Loped they would gather from the Chancellor I of the Exchequer that it was an understanding j that. t. Committer would be Qt to work and would really finish lte business. (Hear, I hear, t He hoped, withou8 moving any formal instruction to that Committee, it would be dis- tinctly understood that it would proceed to carry out 'the work entrusted to it. At the same time he hoped they would not overlook the Committee, and he reminded the House tiiat the Home Secretary, who presided over it, was at present managing the Church Dis- establishment Bill, and that he was also manag- ing a most important Bii in Grand Commit- tee—the Factories and Workshops Bill-and that his hands were full. Mr. J. CHAMBERLAIN (L.U., Binning- h.tm. W.) said the statement made by the Chancellor of the Exchequer Temoved the objection he had to the references ha had proposed the previous day. It was evident now that. while th" Dew Committee would only have to deal with the question of fact, no decision would be asked from the House on the general question ntil they had before them the deci- sion of the other Committee on tne question of principle. He quite agreed as to the in- convenience of overloading the Committee on the Vacating of Seats, and he saw no objection to the proposal in its present foim and. with ttlíJ present understanding. He had another amendment, to propose, and, as to the remark I of his right hon. friend that it would largely eitent the labours of the new Committee, he I could see no possible objection to instructing the Committee to report first in the ease of the member for WV-st Edinburgh. No time would, therefore, be lost by the addition of his proposal The object of the two amendments he had put on the paper was to extend the inqiurv of the Committee, so as to practicaliv make it co-extensive with all trs Or reputed heirs to peerages who might have a seat in that House. He had alluded to the ease of the hon, member for the St. Rollox Division (Sir James Carmichael), who at present was out of England. He used his name only as an illustration of the point he wished to put forward, becHe he had not the slightest desire to force him or anybody else to be a peer against his wiTL (A laugh.) He had been told that Mr. Cunningham Graham, formerly a member of that House, was also the reputed heir to the earldom of Menteith, and his was a ease which might also come before the Committee. If the question were to be raised at all, they must consider all the cases that might be appropriately brought under the purview of the Hbuap. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had already expressed a desire to create an absolutely new nrecedent when he gave evidence before the Vacating of Seafe Com- mittee. He held that fi"t>eakeT Onslow was wrong when he held that "the instant an an- cestor dies the heir becomes a peer and his seat iu the Hou of Commons becomes immediately vacant." Now, the Chancellor of tho Ex- chequer took a different view. He said the seat had not become va.cated until the issue of the writ of summons. The right hon. gentle- man now proposed to create a peer-tinding Committee on the lines of the witch-tinders of the Middle Ages. They were now going to prick foi" peers, and his (Mr. Chamberlain's) mint that if they pricked in one case thev must prick in all. Where th«Tc was a suspi- cion of peeidom attaching to any member of the Huthey must appoint a Oommittee to in- quire into his case. Thev were now going to find out whether Lord olmer had become Lord Selborne. Supposing he refused to appear before the Committee. They could not force a peer—as the Government said he was—to appear before the Committee". If they could not force turn to give the evidence they wanted they were to try and get it in another way. He would be a reluctant witness. It was too much to expect that he was going to find the rope to Hang himself. (Laughter.) These con- siderations seemed to liave amused the House, til-ear, hear.) Well, he wag always glad to be able to amnse the House, but this was a very serious thing, as it dealt with the dignity of the House, and if they now placed themselves in an undignified position they would yøt deeply regret it. The old theory was that if the peerage of Lord Wolmer were proved he could not sit any longer in. the House of Commons; but the new contention was that if proof was not voluntarily afforded they might obtain it for themselves. A similar suspioion attached to Sir James Canmcka«l, and he asked the Committee to consider it. He was described both in "Debrett" and "Dod" as heir to the dormant peerage of the earldom of Hyndford and tlle barony of CarmdchaeL and as claiming both titles. TTiia case was similar to that of Lord Wolmr, except that one did not claim the peerage and the other did not claim the writ of summons. (Hear, hear.) If it was considered necessary to purge the House of Commons of the presence of a. peer, he reminded the House that a peer might be among members unaware. fLaoghter.) When the attention was drawn to all these facts they should all be dealt with on the same principle. For the reasons be had given he objected to the appointment of a Commit- to make this investigation, but if it was to be appointed, then this other case should be submitted to that Committee. If that was not done now, such cas#s would assuredly .Î6ø tttr, and in Lie opinion toe House would only be doing common justice if it meted out exactly the saow# treatment to the constituents of St. Rollux and West Edin- burgh. The majority of the House on either side were opposed to the action of his noble friend, and, as the leader of the Opposition expressed it, felt it would be intolerable that a man should be allowed to occupy this inter- mediate position, and with that view he agreed that this should not prejudice the mam issue. It had been the law and practice of Parliament to insist on evidence before declaring a seat vacant, and in the case of an English peerage the writ of summons had been hitherto the only evidence accepted. In many eases it was a real hardship If a man should be forced amt his will to take up a. peerage which jw had done noth whatever to obtain. (Cheers and laughter.) If an heir to a. peerage became, owing to circumstances, a man of no fortune whatwer, there were many cases m which such a person would gladly be relieved of tne obli- gation of a peerage. He could not see him- self that any harm could accrue if such a. man were given an option, OItoo for all, to say where he would take up his hereditary title with all its obligations, or whether he would be content to ratmil to the ranks of commoners. In press- ing the amendment upon the House he wanted to guard himself against being thought a be- liever in the proposition that a man could sit in two places at onoe, or to choose which of two dignified officeG he would fill. That was a. ny separate question, and nobody who voted either for the amendment or for this Com- mit could in theslightæt degree be com- mitting himself upon the larger question whether this hybrid kind of peerage should be allowed to exist. (Cheers.) Mr. HENEAGE (L.U., Grimsby) seconded the amendment. Sir WM. HARCOURT said he had the mis- fortune. whatever he did, never to be able to pleaw thb member for. \Y E'31 Birmingham. I (Cheers and laughter.) When the late Lord Chief Justice Coleridge died and his eldest son was his successor, there arose the difficulty to I which the right nOn. gentleman has referred. but the delay between the death of the Chief Justice and the issue of the writ of summons to his son havwg- been found inconvenient, he (Sir w iil;am Harcourt) g-rant&1 the son *the Chiltern Hundreds. For that he was most severely critioised by Mr. Chamberlain, who attributed to him and to the Government the most sinister of motives. (Hear, hear.* Mr. ChamberLuii stated that he was wrong, because the scar was already vacant, and that the seat was always vacant instantly on the death. (Ministerial cheers.) Mr. Chamberlain said, "The House will see that in all these ea.-es there is one consistent, 10g-icaJ. and plain rule, viz.. thai the seat in th House of becomes vacant on the deaths of the predecessors." (Cheers and laughter.) Mr. CHAMBERLAIN I wish to say to the rigV hon. gentleman that the evidence of him- self and others in the Committee has changed my opinion. (Ministerial laughter.) Sir WM. HARCOURT said then the Peer at the bar stood acquitted by his accuser. ("Hear, bear," and laughter.) This Com- mittee was appointed to indict him and his conduct in that case as unconstitutional. The seriousness of the charges made him all the more glad that he should be acquitted. The I head and front, of hi offending was this—"Thavt this Government, which is committed to mend- ing or ending the House of Peers have reallr hit upon a means of granting Peers a new and exceptional privilege—the privilege of ex- hausting all the delights of the House of Com- mons, and then, in their old age, retiring to the House of Lords." (Cheers and laughter.) From that charge he was now acquitted by Mr. Chamberlain, but the right hon. gentleman also said. ''But what is suggested to me is that, after all, this may be an invidious way of ending the House of Peers, because everv suc- cessor to a peerage who has enterprise, cnergv. and ambition will, probabh, choose the House of Commons during the period of his juvenility, and will only seek the House of Lords when he reaches the stage of decrepitude." (Great laughter) These were the base and sinister motives which he was supposed to contemplate when he gave the Chiltern Hundreds to Lord Coleridge, He was happy to say Mr, Chamberlain had acquitted him, as the right hon. gentleman thought, on his awn evidence, but he (Sir William Harcourt) took very good care not to give any evidence upon this point. (Loud Ministerial laughter.) One resaun why he gave no opinion was because at that time he was more or less responsible to the House for advice in this matter. He gave no opinion, and. therefore, the converter of Mr. Chamberlain must have been somebody else. (Hear, hear) The position was just the reverse, because he did happen to hold the opinion which Mr. Chamberlain expressed that the seat really was vacated on the death of the predecessor. (Cheers.) But the Hou"p must obtain evidence that the person sitting in that House was the true successor of the man who had died. With reference to the amendment of Mr, Chamberlain, they had two things before them. They had, first, the case of a member of that House who had declared to them he was a peer of the realm. The right honourable gentleman said he be lieved there was in the House a claimant!, to a dcimailt peerage. Well, ;uivone might be a claimpnt to a dormant peerage, but they would not be in the position of the present Earl of Selliorne. A claimant to a peerage was not a peer. The whole difference was that the Earl of Selborne was a peer, and had stated l:im.velf so to be A parallel between claimants to dormant peerages and (lie case of the Earl of Selborne brought the thing to a farce. He was never able to treat th's claim on the part of Earl Selborne and his friends as a .serious thing until the noble lord actually appeared in h;s place. He thought it wa? a farce then, and he thought so now. He hoped it would IYS determined hy n overwhelming majority that a man who was a peer was .not capable of sitting in the House of Commons. That was a very plain and simple is.ue. He be- lieved thai was the Parliamentary law of this country, and the only question was l.) ascer- tain whether Earl Selborne was a peer or not by the production of the patent, the register I of the marriage of lis parents, and the certifi cate of his birth. No Committee of the House eocid decide whether a It.a.n. who was I claimant to a dGrmant peerage was a peer fir I daHI1ant to a dGrmant :pecrage was a p",er fir Dot That could be dcne don", bv the ('CIll- IPittee of Privileges of the. HOHse or' I.ords. If the House meant to deal with this matter seriouslv they must confine themselves to some- thing which could be investigated. (liear, har.) For these reasons ho wao unable to agree to the amendment Mr. ATHERLEY JONES (L., Durham) orgied that so soon as the late Lord Selborn" died so soon did the present Lord Selborne become a peeir of the reeim and a lord of Par- I liament. The Hon. H. E. CURZON (C.. Southport) saic his noble friend those who had acted with him had brought forward that case in all seriousness, and it was after bearing the evidence given by the Chancellor of the Ex- chequer and others before the Committe- last year that they realised how good their case was His noble friend his claim m no spirit of levity, and. indeed, the subject had often I ben discussed with the h-oe Lord Selborne, wh> gave his great authority in support of the claim now made bv his son Mr. HALDANE (L., Haddington) regretted that a Special Committee had been proposed to deal with this matter. Sir MICHAEL HICKS-BEACH (C., Bris- tol, E ) said the House ought to consider in connection with this matter the rights of the electors of West Edinburgh. (Hear, hear.) If the Chancellor of the Exchequer had on the previous night persisted in his motion to move for the writ for West Edinburgh, lie (Sir I Michael) should have felt bound to support him, and he regretted that the right hon. gen tie-man had found it necessary to depart from his original intention. Lord had stated, in reply to the Speaker, that he wad a peer of the realm, and ihat was sufficient evi- dence for that House to hold that his seat had been vacated. (Hear, hear.) He did not, fcowever, wish to oppose the ?notion for a Special Committee, but he thought it wholly unnecessary. He believed that no more pre- pceterous claim than that of his hon. friend beside him (Mr. Curzon) and Lord Selborne lad ever been made than that persons suc- ceeding to a peerage were entitled to sit in that IIou.se (General checrs.) He appealed to tha right hon. gentleman opposite (Sir W. ITai court) whether he did not consider the whole thing was a farce. (Ministerial and Opposition cheering.) He objected to the I electors of West .Edinburgh being deprived of their rights while an inquiry was being made before a Committee of which the Home Secre- tary was chairman, and which had not resumed its proceedings since last year. He really did hope that when the Committee hid the matter before them they would report in a few daysi, and that the Chancellor of the Ex- chequer would at once move the writ for West Edinburgh, on the ground that Lord Woimer's seat had been vacated on hls suc- cession to a peerage. (Hear, hear.) Mr. ROBY (L., Lancashire) thought that I the House was embarking upon an inquiry which would set a very bad precedent. The Hon. ST. JOHN BRODRICK said he and his friends were perfectly aware thut the final court of appeal in "his matter must bf the House of Commons, but they asked that judgment should only be given with a full knowledge of the facts as arrived at by I the Committee upstairs. Mr. LABOUCHERE (L Northarrnton) remarked that this motion seemed to kave been promoted by a small number of gentle- j men, whom he might term "peerikins" rather than peers—(laughter)—and who appeared to think that the affairs of the corntrv could not be carried on unless they were members of the House of Commons While he depre- cated the appointment of this Committee, he was not at all sorry that the discussion had arisen, for anything that did away with the fetish as regarded the wisdom of peers and those who expected to become peers at some time in their hf was to him a very desirable thiug. After ridiculing the attitude taken by Mr. Chamberlain, he made some humorous references to dormant claims, re- marking that he had had the pleasure of know- ing numbers of Scotchmen. He had never been long in the presence of a Scotohma-n with- out his confiding to him 'that he was a dor- mant marquess or something of that sort. (Loud laugher.) Then, with regard to nis hon. friends opposite from Ireland. he had nwer been in their company long without, their confiding to him, under the seal of secrecy, that they were dor- mant rnm axertiq. (Renewed laughter.) He paid no sort of attention to 'those dormant dauBs. Only two or three weeks ago he re- ceived a letter, apparently a circular letter, frem some person in London stating that if he would fiend this individual ten guineas he would prove that he was a member of the Royal family. (Loud and prolonged laughter.) He must confess to the House thut, if tflere was a person who for ten guineas would prove that he was a member of the Royal Family, he 'thought the question arose as to whft?ier lie had a right to a. seat in the House of Commons. (More I ,aiighter ) Ili- wliole ihing war,, reall.v, from begiTITI,iD,?? i"?o end aii a4,3ijrd 't'v-((-,heer--)-and. for hie, par;. he ?,tiould if the writ had simply been moved at once, Mr. GIBSON BOWLES (C.. King's Lvnn') had a practical suggestion to offer /to the afflicted members. Let each introduce a Bill ) of attainder attain/tfag his own blood and the blood of his. descendants, thus mp.king it im- possible for them ever to ait in the House of Lords. (T iicl laughter.) Mr. C H A MBER LAIN said that as it. wa pSvi- oent from indications from all pllrt of the House tha,t ne not have a. majoritv. he would withdraw his amendment. ("Heair, and laughter.) The amendment was, by leave, withdrawn. When the Speaker p'S the motion, a division wa challenged. Mr. Thorns Ellis and Mr. r A rthur were nominated tellers for the motion. Tellers for thp "Nnes" wtre not nomi- nated. but upon the Sneaker askinrr in a crowded House, who told for the "Noes TV banner cned ouv- )T1 a jonj rr>joe 'fr Chaui- berlain and Dr. Tinner." Th*' startling and astounding smnrestion great Iv amused" the I Hiouse. convulsing it with laughter, so much 00 that it was omc. minutes fVire fhp T7cn.-e TTif;T,Afelv. '%Tr. -rT f)rt-v t?,r p?rl AT-r. 'V' Ir,,irv a(,te(-] +,-11-" f- tbp The House d' dod For the motion 330 Against 243 Majority i187

THE L>, ,SiON. The Press Association states that in this evenings division upon Sir Wiihani HarcourtV motion to refer the case of Lord Selborne to a Committee, which was carried bv 330 to 143, rhe minority, for whom Mr. Vicarr Gibbs and Mr. H. S. Foster acted as teiiers, was of a .singularly mixed character, consisting of some Conservatives, several of the Parnellite members. a few Anti-Parnellite Irish Nationalists, Mot of the Liberal Unionists, ana a number of Radicals. Ihe majority consisted of members of the Government and a large body of their custo- marv supporters, as well as most of the occu- pants of trie front Opposition Bench and many Conservatives. Conservatives.

WALWORTH GONE AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT. RADICAL AND SOCIALIST FORCES DEFEATED. Walworth has gone against the Government. 'II In 1885 and 1892 it gave slim majorities to the e- Conservatives, but at the last election the seat was captured for the Radicals by the late Mr W. Saunders. On Tuesday the result was as I follows:- Mr. Bailey (C.) 2.776 li,e Colonel eade (L,) 2,103 bfr. La-usbul-y t) 347 1 Conservative Majority 673 An examinatioi, of the figures must have a discomforting effect on the Government. They are denied the satisfaction of the retort that the Socialist candidate helped the Tory candi- date, for the latter bad a majority of 326 over the combined Radical and Socialist forces. Aud even the combined poll of these wo candidates is somewhat ',es,,i than tbe poll a? the last election. As will ?e .i(l-r'i ?r(,m the' followiii.- table. Conservat be ?Illi- i, 'm has ell adv" eing ai?d latterly very rapidly. in the constituency 1885. 1886. 1892. 1805: C 1,835 1.943 2,213 2,776 1.. 1,816 1,740 2,514 2,105 Socialist 347 C, inaj. 69 C. mnj. 2J5 L. maj. 296 C mai.673 MINISTERS IN A FRIGHT. ) Our London correspondent, telegraphing m Tuesday night, says:—'Hie great Tory victory at Walworth was discounted here an hour before the figures reached the House. -Captain Norton, the member for tin-* twin division of Newington, came down to the House with the information that the seat was lost to the Govern- ment- He was hurried into the lobby with Sir William Harcourt and Mr. Caustou, one of the. Whips. Ihe three retired to the Whip 100m, and presently Mr. John Morley was fetched to join them. Meanwhile the lobby was crowded with members waiting for the official result. The majority of 570 was first given in the lobby while a division was going on, and produced a roar of cheering, which wa renewed again and again in the House later ori. The Tories ;'re exultant, and the Ministerialists were utte-rly crushed, and have, taken to rumour the downfall of the Government. REJOICINGS AT WALWORTH. A derive crowd assembled outride Walworth Vestry-hall on Tuesday njg-ht to hear the decla- ration of the poll, which took place at 10,30. Owing to the fact that the press were vigorously excluded from the counting there was some con- fusion as to the exact result, but the figures as sent out by the Press Association were the official return. When it was known that the Conservative had been returned great excite- ment prevailed, and, owing to the continued cheers by Mr. Bailey's supporters and groans by a large number of Socialists, speaking from the steps of the hall was impossible. At the Conservative clubs rockets were sent up and red fire burned.

GRIEVANCES ON THE TAFF VALE RAILWAY. MEETING OF THE DIRECTORS. A meeting of the directors of the Taff Vale Railway Company took place on Tuesday at the offices, Queen-street, Cardiff, but nothiug was done in the matter of the dispute between I the employes and the company in consequence of the absence of the chairman of the directors through indisposition. The men's representa- tives, as has already been stated, met on Tues- day morning at the Hotel Metropole to hold themselves in readiness, should the directors deem it advisable to grant. them an interview, and a. word to this effect was despatched to the I secretary of the company. About two o'clock, however, a communication was reoe-ne. i from I' that L 'errtleman, st.,tiig that, as tli,, chairman was precluded from attending the meeting through illness, the consideration of the matters in dispute had been deferred. In the face of the fact that the notices, which had been given to about 120 men. expired on Tues- day morning, the men's, representatives consider the communication did not meet the case, and Mr. Taylor (the secretary) and another dele- gate sought an interview with the management respecting the matter. They were courteously received, and, in reply to their inquiry respect- ing the men whose notices had expired, thvy were informed that the lourteen days' notice terminating on Tuesday morning had been withdrawn, and that another fourteen days' notice to same men to terminate their engagements had been issued. The matters A dispute, therefore, remain in statu quo. A mass meeting of the men employed on the Taff Vale. BarrN-, and Rtiv 'ey R:i,' '?v-,uy.9 wt',L be,, Mr. held on Si;nday to fu'.rther consider ti.,e ques- tions in dispute, and to determine what course shall, under the ciroumstanoes, be adopted.

A CURIOUS APPLICATION. RELIGIOUS SERVICES IN A HOTEL AT COLWYN BAY. ¡ On Saturday at CoJwyn Bay Petty Sessions (before the Rev. W. Venables-Wiiliams, vicar of Llancirillo, a.nd other magistrates) Mr. Axnphlett (Messrs. William Jones, Porter, and Amphlett, solicitors, Colwyn Bay) made an ap- plication on behalf of Mrs Lcwe, licensee of the Imperial Hotel, n T'nv that the inagi3trat?es should give some 'ttdimtioxi of their feeling wi",?'!i respect to tl,.e advi,,?a;bility (,f his Client lett'r?I z a room in her licensed prezrii,c-- fo.- R?omazi CaAlielic BeTv-icps to be lield oil Suiida-,T M("r n?up by tl,.e Rev. Nltillig?in, of -LlaT;- d,,idn,LiL Th-e five p.-eE,'Fot iidivi- dually expr-?sed thern4oe?Lv,&,s a-s of opinion that -'?Irs'. Lowe's permi,,?oion of religious f,tI her licensed premises would not constitute an I offence against the Welsh Sunday Closing Act. and added that, while their remarks must not be taken ab a sanction or otherwise, they were in their qeveral indtvidual capae't?,eg f.v "Ne to our' these services by Canon Mulligan and they should not be inclined to dissuade Mrs. Lowe l¡ from letting the room and chancing any "per- cv.t'on" or prosecution, which Wer way people chose to pronounce the word, were Mrs. Lowe called upon to answer to a formal charge.

LIBERATOR CRASH. THE CHARGES AGAINST JABEZ BALFOUR. PRISONER AGAIN UP AT BOW- STREET. EXTENDING THE SCOPE OF EXAMINATION. THE CASE ADJOURNED. At Bow-street Police-court on Tuesday morn- ing (before Sir John Bridge) Jabez Spencer Balfour was again placed on trial charged with various acts of conspiracy and fraud in con- nection with different building and land societies with whioh he was connected. Mr. Charles Matthews and Horace Avory prosecuted on behalf of the Treasury, whilst Mr. John OCounor and Mr. Swans.ton de- fended. Sir John Bridge took his sea.t at a quarter to eleven. A few minutes afterwards the door marked "For prisoners only" was swung open, and Balfour made his appearance. He walked nimbly into the dock, ana made a kind of bob- bing bow to the magic-irate, after which hb immediately seated lumself. The gaoler, how- ever, nudged him to rise, and he did <50, for the permission enabung the prisoner to be seated, had. not been formally given. "May the prisoner sit, Sir John I" asked the officer, to winch the magistrate nodded assent, and thereupon Balfour resumed his seat. As usual, he was dressed neativ in dark ciothes, his well-fitting black frock ooat being closely but- toned oven- his burly figure. The police allowed very few people into the smaii court, but, not- withstanding this necessary exclusion of curiosity-seekers, the atmosphere was insuffe- rably hot and unpleasant. HOUSE LAND TRUST. Mr. Frank Shai iaad, the manager of some city property, residing at bi, Iveyverdaie^raati, «tamford-hill, wao in at called anu examined by CliHJ'les Mattnews. He stated t-hat 111 January, ldtb, he was employed-as a cleix by lhe House and investment Trust, and he portion oi the minute of the 1¿(1I ot Jauuaiy "relating to the purchase of the V. hitehaii Court property was in lus. liana writing, lie had coined it trom the druit produced 011 iVt-on- oay under the instruction of Air. Leonard Balfour Bums, the secretary 01 the trust. Witness did not attend the board meeting heid on lzth. To the nest, ot his recollection the meeting was not heid at the offices of the trust, winch were then situated at 49, (,'aiuion-street, but he couid nOi say wiietuer or no it took place at the oinces of che Building Securities Company. There was a clerk of the name of George Groom employed by the trust. Groom was never with the Building Securities Company. t Cross-examined, witness said the nunubes would be written up from the agenda-book as a rule, but he had no reason to believe that this particular minute was written up from the agenda-book. He did not think that there was any alteration ou the blue paper which he copid. Witness was further cross-examined with a view to s,howing- that he could not have copied this document a.t ail. He could nor say whether the draft produced was that ttom which he wrote jthe minute. He was only a boy at the time. Asked to compare the fair copv with the alleged draft, witness admitted that the minute did not correspond with the draft, but sug- gests ] th >t the alterations iu the latter were made atin he made the copy. Eventually, he expressed the opinion that the minute was nor copied from the alleged draft. He could not swear whether the alteration of the "3" *to the *'5" was in his writing or not. Witness, in reply to further questions, said he undoubtedly wrote the figure as "3" to start with, but whether it was his "5" he could not say. It appeared to him that the first entry of £32,50°. was made by a. clerical error At all events it looked very much like one. Mr. O'Connor: Having regard to the fact, 'that you are an --xperienced «>lerk, could thi't, minute have been copied by you from the draft produced, either corrected or uncorrected ? Witness: No; I am afraid it could not. Do you remember tblc Mr. Balfour ever gave you any instructions with regard to that minute:—No. never. R e-exaxnined by Mr. Matthews: It appeared | to him on the face of it that, the minute was never made from the draft produced in court. In his own mind it was not the draft at ail. Ac- cording to his memory it a larr docu- ment that copied from than the piece of paper before hinr. Sir John Bridge— -Titm, ymrimv'' tffOfiff fn the R:st pi act in coming to th* conclusion thiit it wa- from this piece of paper before you vxu ^de the fair copy?—No. -•" Jonn Bridge: ou correct the statement iiv w r Witness I think I said before I thought it was not the draft. Sir John Bridge: Taking the whole thing together, you come to the conclusion that in afl probability it was not from that draft that you made your fair copy? Witness Yes most certainly. Bv Mr Matthews He could not say whether the alteration from "3" to "5" waj in his hand- writing or not. The altered figure "5" in the diaft was certainly not in his handwriting. The minutes of the meeting on the 12th of January would be entered in the agenda-books of the secretary and chairman. 'Ihe entry in the agenda-book produced was in Mr. Balfour? handwriting, but he did not find any reference on the lah of January to the acquisition of the Whitehall Court property. Sir John Bridge (after examining the book) It is quite clear that in the chairman's agenda- book nothing appears about, the Whitehall Court transaction. J. W. HOBBS AND CO. ),11'. G, Kentish, who3e eÙdence attracted much attention when given .-gainst the several chiectors at the Guild-hall, was the next wit- iitAfter stating that he resiued at South Kensington, he went on to say that in JaiHuu.y, 1886, he was secretary of J. W. Hobbs aud C'o, (Limited), Hobbs being the managing director, mJd H. Granville Wright, solicitor. Witness was present during pftrt of a board meeting of Hobbs and Co. in January, 1886, the minutes of which the minute-book were in his handwriting. All the minutes, except- ing that relati lg to Whitehall Court, were made from witness's ag-endarbook, and that of the chairman (Major Wright). That relating to Whitehall Court was made from a draft sup- plied by Leonard Balfour Burns on blue paper. His attention being called to alterations in the draft, he said th:, he thought the alteration of the draft, which converted into £52,500 as the sum to be paid to the contractor, had been made. Other alterations, however, had not at that time been made, but one of £ .32,500 mto £52.500 had also been made when he first copied the draft. There were in his .minute-book certain interlineations and one alteration. Witness made these a few days after he made the record, because of instructions from Granvdle Wright. He was present at the board meeting of the 12th of January, but had left before the Whitehall Court business came on. He had one away under the impression that the business of the meeting was over. He left behind him on the board the chairman (Major Wright) and all the directors who had attended that day. He had heard of the Whitehall Court transaction before the 12th of January, but he had nut seen Mr. Bal- four in connection with it prior to the 12th. He attended, in his capacity as secretary to Messrs. Hobbs and Co., a meeting at the offices of Wliiteha11 Court (Limited), at which I there IVere present, ill addition to Mr. Bal. four. Mr. Granville Wright, Major Wright, and Mr. Carr, and he believed Mr. Gold- ring, the solicitor At another meeting of Messrs. Hobbs and Co., on the 19th of January. Mr. Granviiie Wright produced three Agreements for carrying out the arrangements as to the Whitehall Court pro- perty, and thev were all sealed. One of them, which he now produced, was the counterpart of an agreement between Hobbs and Co. and Carr and Messrs. Goldring I and Co. and Carr :J.Jld Messr; Goldring I i.ad .Mitchell, as assignee" of h.i, mortgages, whereby Me'rs. Hobbs and Co undertook ¡to lY £25.000. Th.e eeonù docu- ment was an agreement between I Wuitehall Court (Limited) and Hobbs and Co. for the payment by tthe latter of £25,000. Mr. Horace Avory: We are informed that the agreement signed by Hobbs and Co. has been lost in the liquidation of Whitehall Court Limited). Mr. O'Connor: The second agreement has gone to look after the third—Greig's agreement. (Laughter, in which prisoner heartily joined.) Witness, continuing, said the third document, which was sealed at the meeting in question, was an agreement to pay a Mr. Greig—whose Christian name he left blank in the minute- book— £ 20.000. Sir John Bridge: What tor? W itntfss It did not state. Mr. Avory: Are vou able to sav whether the agreement) specified what the payment of to Greig was to for? Witness: I only know it was signed and sealed. Sir John Bridge: Was it signed hv Greig? Witness: I cannot say. I myself, however, fixed th, seal of the company to the agreement. Examination eontinued The rhreie agree- ments. sifter they were signed, were handed back to the so!:ci+or at a meetnio- of the bnurd on the 4th of February. Some alterations were made in the three agreemerts. after which I thev remained in the QU'Itodv ♦? t1w solicitor. he had never seen the Gr-ig document since. A t that same meeting Hobbs and Co. rwirf £ 5.GOO to fT, G, W'io-hf- (on account of Greig) by Cnef)11P rIT: the London 3nrl General J Bank, and a. sum of £5,000 was also paill to Messrs. Guiding and Mitoliell on account of the On the 10th of February. 1885, the following letter was ivd from Mr. H. G. Wright, addressed ,to the secretary, J. W. Hobbs and Co. :— "WHITEHALL PROPERTY. "Dear Sir,—I beg to give you notice that, in consideration of certain arrangements, all the interest of Mr. O. K Grtag in the agree- ment entered into between your company and myself on the 12th of January iast, is for the time being vested in me, anu I must ask that your company do not make any payments to him, or any other person 011 his behalf, in respect of such agreement, except through me or with mv consent." Witness added that he thought Mr. Greig's initials were C. E. Mr. O'Connor: No; he luxuriated in the name of Oetavius. (Laughter.) Mr. Avory: No; that is the name which the real Greig lias. Witness continued: After that, on the 15th of February, he llau a letter from. the solicitors, Messrs. Bouner, W right, and Thompson, and which was as follows: — ■ WHITEHAiiJ, PROPERTY. "Dear Sir,—We beg to give you notice that Mr. Greig has charged the sum payable to him OIl the. bth of next under terms of agreement in favour of our client. Mr. Arthur Thompson, and that such payment is not tD læ made to aIlyohr except with his l-eave." Subsequently, OIl the Utty of February, he sent a memo. to Burns, the secretary of the House and Lands Investment Trust, of the various sums payable in respect of the "Whitehall property. That showed both the, £20,000 and the £25,000. and the manner Hl wlnoli eaoll sum had to be paid. Messrs. Hobbs and Co. obtained money with which to pay the sums of £3.000 and £5.000, from the House and Lands Investment Trust, on the 4th of February, by cheque on the Lon- don and Genera] Bank. The next payment was made on the 23rd February. G. Wright, £ 1.000," it being- part of the sum of This was by cheque on the London and General Bank. The next payment to H. G. Wright in connection with the £ 20,000 was 011 the'bth of April, and for £1.000 by Hobbs and Co. 011 the London and General Bank. The re. was paid by bills. Six of the bill., were ac- cepted by Hobbe and Co.. and at the time of the acceptance there- was no drawer's name on them. The name of Greig been since adeled as dra we,r. The court here adjourned for luncheon. On the court resuming, Kemrish again went into the wirness-box. He aid he remembered that on the 17th of March, 1886. Balfour was appointed to represent th." House and Lands Investment Trust, the Building Securi- ties Company, and the Liberator Societv, to carry out the arrangement of the Whitehall PC I: tract. He also became uware of Ins open- ing- an account with the London and General Bank, called the "Whitehall contracts account." After that date did vou, as you nquired money on behalf of Hoi bs and (1o., apply to Balfour for suoh money?—Yes, Did he draw oheques 011 the Whitehall contracts account, and fend them to vou? -He did. Sir John Bridge: Have any of these bills been discounted bv anyone?--Yes, sir. Evidence continued Including the six bills for £ 1,000, each drawn on the l'8th of March, and the £ 5,000 previous]- paid, thev had alto- gether paid the £ 0.000 still owing then. Subsequently three other bills, for £ 1,000 each, were given, all of which fell due on the 21st of October. They were accepted by Hobbs and Co. like the others, and they had the drawer's name subse- quenily filled in. That made a, total payment of £ lt,000. The last. three bills were all met in the same way by Balfour out of monies pro- viced out of the Whitehall contracts account. There was board meeting of Messrs. Hobbs and Co. on the 18th of January. 1887. at which Mr. Wright, the solicitor, was present. It was resolved then, as to the Whitehall property, tliat with respect to the payment of the balance of £6,000 due on the £20.000\ the solicitor was to be requested to offer £5.500 in full payment, payable by three acceptances of equal amount, due 011 the 15th of May, the 15th of August, and die 15th of October. 1887. After the^ meeting he wrote a letter to that effect, to the solicitor, at. the same time asking him to put this offer it-lore the proper parties. The communication added that if the proposal was accepted he (Mr. Kentish) would at once draw the bills and fe,I ward them. Mr. Avory What did you mean by the ex- pression, "Proper authorities" J Witness The people who wtre entitled to the money under the agreement. \VitIH\8 went on to say that on the 18th of March he received a cheque from Balfour drawn on the Whitehall contracts account for £ 2,654 4s. 4d. He en- ..datstd it, and gav«. it oaok. He--could not say when he got the bills back. He be.ieved that they came back from Balfour. Who supplied the cinque for them? Sir J. Bridge: Did Balfour tell you to give the cheque up?—1 cannot say that. Mr. A vory You do not know whom you got the bills from?—I believe I got them from Ealfour. Sir John Bridge I suppose you were under his orders when you gave the cheque back ?— I believe so. Mr. Avorv When these bills did come back to you had they any drawer's name upon them at all?—No, and they have none now. Sir J. Bridge They had not been discounted, Mr. Avory No. Sir -J. Bridge: the drawers name was only put oil them in order to discount them. Mr. Avory '11 this case they make them very "fishy" bv putting Greig's name npon th fin. (L ;ui ght,) Mr. Avory Then Hobbs and Co. never had the benefit of that cheque? Witness: Yes, they did, for the liability on the bits was extinguished. He never saw anything more of the cheque after he had the bills baek. That concluded the £ 20.000 tran. saction. It was on the 11th of October, 1887, when he wrote. to Mr. Balfour, reminding him that the acceptance representing the final pay- ment fell due 011 the following 15th inst. On the 13th of that month Balfour wrote to Miller, the secretary to the House and Lands invest- ment Trust, intimating that he should riquire a cheque for £1.416 13s. 4d. to complete the final payment of the £ 20,000. including £ 500 due to Hobbs and Co. Mr. O'Connor asked for leave to postpone his cross-examination of the witness, as lie had made very important statements, and he de- sired to have time to look through his evidence. Sir John Bridge said he would grant the application, but he hoped tlte effect would not be to lengthen the inquiry. Mr. O'Connor remarked that he believed it would, on the. other hand, t< nd to shorten the I proceedings. TEABROKER IN THE BOX. Mr. Arthur Thompson, teabroker, Mtneing- lane, a bi other of a partner in the firm of Bonier, Wright, Thompson, and Co., of which Henry Granville Wright was a member, snid he knew nothing of the letter dated July 15, 1886, signed "Burner, Wright, Thompson, and and addressed to Kentish, with respect I to the Whitehall property. Witness did not authorise the writing of any such letter, and knew nothiug whatever of any agreement re- ferred to. I Cioss-examined by Mr. O'Connor, witness admitted that at. the time in question lie never heard of Balfour's name in connection i 1.11 the matter. PRISONERS BANKING ACCOUNT. Iienry Shariand, formerly a clerk in the London and General Bank, 20, Budge-row. Cannon-street, stated that he knew the pri- soner at the bank,'v here he kept a private account. On the 7th of May, 1836, a fresh account, called iWhitehall Contracts Ac- count, was opened at the oonk. on which Bal- four alone drew. Witness produced the original pass-book issued from the bank con- tan ing the account, from May 7. 1886, to I September 14, 1892. Altogether, he said, between those dates £768,317 was paid in to the account, while £768.010 was drawn out. The account was fetl by moneys coming from the Liberator Building SocIety. the Honse and Land Investment Trust, a.nd the Building Securities Company. On the 18th of March, 1887, Mr. Balfour paid the credit of his private account a cheque for £2.645 4s. 3d., drawn on the Whitehall Contracts Account on the same day. Mr. Balfour on that date drew a cheque on hi- private account for £ 1.900, which was presented the next day by the Uni>n Bank. Cross-examined by Mr O'Connor, witness said that Mr. Balfour operated with the account in the same manner as any other customer. I' There was not the least understanding between the bank and Balfour as to the ma.nner in which this account should be kept. and there was no attempt, at concealment. Re-examined, witni>.f3. said that Balfour was chairman and a dire "tor of the London and General Bank. and he thought, all Balfour's companies banked at the London and General Bank. Counsel for the Crown being about to call another witness, at 25 minutes past four, Mr. O'Connor, addressing the magistrate, re- tnatked "We are keeping very long hours." Sir John • It was live o'clock last night before we adjourned. The accused has been a long time abroad. (Laughter.) OTHER WITNESSES. Ir. Jrimes Gedeics, cashier at the Union Bank of London, Mr. Frederick Clarke (of Messrs. Prescott, Dimsdaie. and Co., bankers) pave evidence as to banking tran- sfttions with a view to showing that the pro- cttds of acceptances went first into the banking account of Granviiie \rl!or}lt, and that subse- I' quently there w-is a division between himself ¡11M I Balfour. I The court adjourned nil to-day (Wednesday).

WELSH CHURCH BILL. THE COMMITTEE STAGE. In the House of Commons on Tuesday night the House went again into Committee on the Established Church (Wales) Bill. On Clause 2 Mr. TOMLINSON (C., Preston) proposed an amendment with a view to keeping alive the present ecclesiastical corporations. so:e or aggregate, for the purpose ol receiving or I holding property. Mr. ASylilTH (Home Secretary) opposed the amendment. It was quite unnecessary, because the Bill made provision for the tenure of property by the representative body of the Church. Sir R. WEBSTER (C„ Isle of Wight) could not st-e. why these corporations should be dissolved because the Church was dis- established. The discussion was continued by Sir P. Powell (C., Wig-au), Mr. Talbot (C., Oxford University), and Mr. Hanbury (C., Preston). Mr. ASQUITH said that corporations sole were a peculiar privilege of the Established li,and, therefore, when the Church was disestablished it was only right that these corporations should be dissolved. After some further discussion the Com- mittee divided. and the amendment was re- jected by 186 to 167: majority 19. Mr. BARTLEY (C., Islington) submitted an amendment the object of which was that when the Church 111 Wales was disestablished and disendowed the cathedral corporations should not he dissolved, Mr. ASQUITH argued that the dissolution of those corporations was the logical conclu- sion of the decisions at. which the Committee had already arrived, and that if the amend- ment were accepted a privilege would be con- ceded to the Church of which other religious bodies migiit complain. Sir M. HICKS-BEACH (C., Bristol) thought that as only four corporations would be affected the concession might reasonably I ue made in deference to the sentiment associated with the cathedral. The discussion was continued by Lord Cran- borne (C., Rochester), Air. G. Russell. Mr. Talbot, Mr. Humphreys Owen (L., Mont- I gomeryshire*), Sir R. Temple, Sir E. Clarke, I and cithers. The Committee then divided, when there were:- For the amendment 8» Against 135 Majoritv 50 The amendment was, therefore, negatived. Mr. WEBSTER (C., St. Paiicras), after au abortive count, moved an amendment ex- cluding "ecclesiastical corporatiolls" from the operation of the section. The corporations which it was now propose to dissolve were the oldest, in the country, and had done a most b.^ueficent work. Mr. G. W. RUSSELL opposed the amend- ment, observing thai, the Home Secretary had always stated thu reasons which led the Government to think that it was desirable to dissolve these corporations. After some discussion the amendment was negatived. Air. HANBURY proposed an amendment limiting the dissolution of ecc.eajastical cor- porations to those connected with the present Established Church in Wales. They ought not to destroy corporations connected with other denominations, and especially with the Roman Catholic Churoh. Air. iii; 1, E -aid that U amendment was quite unnecessary, for as the B'.ii was drawn it would not operate on any corporation i.ot connected with the Church of England. Sir R. WEBSTER, on the other hand, con- tended that the Bill would apply to ail eccle- siastical corporations in Wales, whether con- nected with the Established Church or not. After some further discussion Air. Asquith I accepted the amendment, which was agreed to Mr. BARTLEY proposed to provide that the corpórabons in question shall only be ,.?tablishc,,J it, a,, far as they ai-, (.. law. That, taken in connection with a sub- I sequent amendment, would allow these cor- porations to remain as religious bodies on the same footing as similar Nonconformist todies. Air. ASQUITH said that the amendment was quite unnecessary. Its object would be attained by the Bill as it stood. After some further discussion, intheeourse of which Sir M. Hicks-Beach and Sir R. Webster suggested the withdrawal of the amendment, °while Mr. Asquith described it as absolutely without sense, the Committee divided, when there Ni-ere:- I For the amendment 101 Against i?8, J Majority | "During the division the result ot ttie *:a'" worth election was received, and was hailed with marked demonstrations of deught b> the members of the Opposition in the lobby as t hev returned to tli(- House. As soon as the numbers of the division were announced the Conservatives cheeied vaheuiiently and long. Mr. FISHER (C. Fulham) then proposed an amendment the effect of which was to provide that Welsh bishops appointed before the date of Disestablishment shall during their In es retain their present seats in the House of Lords. There were only four of these bishops. Why should thev be deprived of their existing dig- nities without compensation, when the lite interest of other holders of otiices or benefices in the Church were protected? Ihe Church was entitled to so IBudl representation in the House of Lords for the protection of her interests, o ? rr?. Mr. ASQ?TH oppo?d ti?e amendin?nt. 'he bishops had "fro title to seats in the House of Lords except as the prelates of an Established Church. As soc n as the Church was disestab- lished their right to sit, there ceased. Air. GRIFFITH BOSC A WEN (C, lun- bridge) supported the. amendment, on the ground that. vested interests should be respected. "'r R. TE-IPT,E c-oiiteii(l(-d that. the I)riL.?eTtt ?-,l Welsh bishops should be allowed to retain their seats in the House of l,nrth to protect the interests of the Church during the period of transition. Sir E. CLARKE thought it would be better to allow the Welsh bishops to retain their seats during their lives tha.n to fill titeir places by four English bishops, as would be the case. fr Ca-i-vell Williams opposed and Mr. Stanley Leighton supported the amendment, I%lr i.nd, after a few words fi?orn Tornlin:,on, the Committee divided. when there were For the amendment 15-j I :1<'01" the amf'udmeut. Itlj I AgaiI'st 2 MaJorJty.3 The amendment was, therefore, negatived. Progress was then reported. NAMES OF THE WELSH COMMIS- SIONERS. STATEMENT BY THE HOMF. SECRETARY. In the Hou.e ol' Cor.,iinoii6 on Tues(i?ty ,light t Mt-. As(luitti, in tnswer to ? Michael Beach, said the naniei of the proposed Welsh Commissioners under the Welsh Church Bill were Sir Algernon West, late chairman of the Board of Inland geven ue; the Hon. Wm. Napier Bruce, Assistant Charity Commissioner and Colonel Hugh Roberts Hughes. of Ystrad. Sir Algernon West will be the unpaid Commis- sioner. Sir Algernon West is the son of the late Mr. J. M. West, Commissioner in Bankruptcy, and I .J. M. 'Vest, Commissioner in Htmkruptcy, a.nd I wa", :t CommissioHd' of the 'H, >oan! of I nland Revenue, and became reilJ.kdl\'ply deputy- cha.irman ¡,nd eha irm;lIl, and IS now d r" C.t or I .of thlj Umo1\ Bank .of LondoIl. He j, the UII- pa;d COlIJmissiOlwr ullder tlie propost'd VI" tal.,h"hmtnt sr'heu,e. He \Va", once }Jnvatt: secretary to Air. Gladstone. I The Hon. William Napier Bruce is the second son of the late Lord Alierdare. He was called to the Bar in 1883, and has for years been an I Assistant Charitv Commissioner. Air. Hu^h Roberts-Hughes is the son of die late Air. 1'. Hughes, of Ystrad, in Denbighshire, and like Mr Bruce, he is a barrister of Lincoln 's I nu- lls is also'a lieutenant-colonel of Militia and a justice of the peace for Flintshire and Den- bighshire. CONDEMNED BY CANTERBURY CONVOCATION. The Canterbury Convocation met on Tuesday at Westminster for business. The bishops sat, t-nder t'L, prc-sidency of tlio -,trelit3isi?op, and dis- '?e Welsh (Ihureli B.il? (,,tlt,??eqxlelitly pos.iiiig -t resolution coiidemiiii?g-kh, measi.io. IIU?A1.3e, SN-iti-f)-ttlic-,tie a JUSIon, We, In the Lu?,vei ?e e made to the death of the late Earl of Selborne, who was chairman of the House of Laymen.

THE VYELSHCOALTRADE DISPUTE AT YNYSYBWL. IP. C()-,Se(tu(?nce of t,(ii,.3pute ihat liaa nrien Vtt??een t '*?otion of tie ilen einplc?yed at the i.cly Wind-sor C,)Ilierj'es aii?i i he man it, -en tb'3 piti have b,- dle -inee Mor.? d'z?p,,ite has ar*sen frOM The T-,I.P-,qellc"e of a, iD'(-rea-3,-d thiek'ms,; of ?-lod in -he coal ifi the North District Upper Landing, for the cleaning of which the men employed in the district, claim extra payment The management denies this, anu refuses to entertain their pro- p.als. Meetings have been held to discuss th,? matter, api-I a .t prpsent there is no :lppcaarr- I".CE, of a. ,.?ttlerrent.

a. we lividpretand no them. Even in the poorest quarters of +ht' I city the streets are paved with aaphaite, aDd are kept faultlessly clean.

DOWN & S 0 FOR RELIABLE FURNITURE IMMENSE STOCK TO SELECT FRoJt HIGH STREET AND MORRIS LAKE, 1017 I SPRING CLEA]NTmGp ADOPT THE INCANDESCENT GAS BURNER SAVES ONE HALF YOUR GAS, AND GIVES TWICE THE SOLE AGENT FOR SWANSEA- JOHN LEGG. NELSON-STREET.

SHIPPING NEWS. SIGNALLED OFF THE LIZARD. May 13- Passed Eaat Steamer presumed Maasdam, from New York for Rotterdam. May 14. Pamed East: Horizon, from Pisagua, for Falmouth (in tow) Helene, from Phila- delphia. for Hamburg (all well) steamers Tele- graphic, of Liverpool Havel, from New York for Southampton Ashdene. of Sunderland Cioch, of Penzance, Panned Tug Alrica, towing a barque Rapid, of Plymouth teamers her Majesty's yacht, Hawk Verax, of West Hartlepool LlantLewy, of Newport.— Wind, N., moderate weather, cloudy sea, smooth bar., 30'25, falling. SIGNALLED OFF THE MUMBLES. May 14. Wind, W.S.W., fresh; weather, cloudy; sea, moderate.—Passed East: Ship Osborne, of Liverpool steamers Princess Mary, of Glasgow Princess Alexandra, of Glasgow" Carnsew, of Penzance No rug. Passed Test Barque Mount Vernon, of Swansea ship of England, of Liverpool. S W A N SE A — A RRIYA LS NORTH DOCK. May 13.-Leonle Anastasie, 79, Pun 1 Ha", p,t,woud. Free Lance, s, 740, RoueD, nil. Bonita, 37, Mill jiav, potatoes. May 14,-DoJphiD, 49, Bidefnrii, gravel. SOUTd DOC K. May 13.-Etelle Leon, 66, Granville, nil. Marie Eugenie, 75, Granville, nil. Ellen Owein. 34. Cardi- gan. nil. May 14. — Amelie and Jane. 61, Roscotf, nil. 'leveed, g, 515, t'auliff, general. Margaret, tug, 12, Fort Talbot, nil. 149, Brrtol, gfiieral. fKTNC'E OF WALES DOCK May 13.-Mooerawr, s, 57, Cardiff, tin. I'almae. s, 1,560, Antwerp, nil. May 14.—Osborne, 2.986, Hull, nil. William Joilfte, tug, 58, Hull (towing Osborne). SAILINGS. NORTH DOCK. 1 May 13.—Sarah Blanche, s (Olugston), Cardiff, ) Union (Binding). Abertliaw. Squirrel (Baken, Tup sham. May 14.—Sunlight, s (Cornn), Briton Ferry. I'nm (Bray), Neath. Mount Vernon 'Thcniaeo, liahia. SOUTH DOCK. May 13.—Mediterranean (MI)witin). Treport. Miner, a CHeggenl, Belfast. May 14. —Marie Ceitiie (Man(fretj, Brest. PHISCE OF WALES DOCK. May 13.—Brunswick, s (Ste\ent9, Savona. May 14.—Crown of England (Williamson), San Fran- ciaeo Maria, s (Lufz), Brmdisj. Moderator, s (Wil- Ii a.n",) Cardiff. ENTERED I,ITI 14. Quebec and Montreal, Palnias, s, B, "Puicell, 1,560. Pocket's (Limited) San Francisco, Osborne, n, s,.)t( 2.986, Simpson Bin. Ceclrja lioatrs (Tunis), Free J,ar.ee, IS, Hog Jin. 740, J. Wood & Co. CLEARED.-May 1D. l'ola, Salisbury, s, n, 2.260 parent fuel Fontrieux Jeune Fernand, I', 130 coal Britidisi, Maria, s. Hol. 3,300 Hamburg, Oity (,f Rotterdam s, B, 500 coal, 1CO ¡ general IMPORTS.—Mav 14. E. IA'. Cook iV Co. IMPORTS COASTWISE. -May 14. Barnstaple, Dolphin. 20 ton. grave!, cider Liverpool, Suulight, ,s, general J. Bacon (Limited) Glasgow, fro., Tweed, s, general, M. Jones & Bro. MiiUay, Bonita, 55 tons potatoes, Allen & Co. Bristol, Collier, II, srenerai 1'¡¡,t'JI. Rio Fornio«o. s, Manchester, vyi ih'istql.' Fem. s, general. & C. ifcrttai 7 Cardiff, Moderator, s, 20 tons tin-plates, Pockett's Company; 4 tons tin-plates, Mason & Co. EXPORTS COASTWISE.-May 14. Briton Fr>riy, Sunlight, s, 10 coal..T. Bacon (Limited) Aideburgh, Per-y. 140 :■<»«!, Letrieheux & David Glasgow, V., Tweerl, s, general, M. Jones Bristol, CoHier, », general Ilfraconihe, Rio Formosa, s, general Mr.r.rbester, Ferric, s, general. J. <fe C. Harrison Th mouth, bo ft Uollo, 210 coal, Evans & Bevan Cardigan, Ellen Owens, 52 cod, S. & J. Hill Sea, Wm. Jollitft', tug, 80 coal, WkIcIows, Howard NEATH AND BRITON FERRY.— A RRIV ALS, May c3.—Samiseml, s, 455, Rochester, ballast. May 14 —Treleig'n, a, 186. Portreath, oallast. Sun- light fl. 445, SwaiiK-a, imilast. Jane Hughes, 74, Wexford, ha Mae t. Tom, 23. Watchet, haliat. SAILINGS. Ma) s (Cleino) Hayle. May 14.—Olivia. « (Grenfetli, Portreath. Friends I (Binding), Watchet. Merthyr, o (Everett), Bristol. Iting Po-'e (Bowen), Card tf. j

Our Porthcawl correspondent telegraphs on f Tuesday: One of the densest fogs experienced for some time has been hanging over the Channel this morning. It came on Monday after- noou, and has continued without intermission. I Tha sea is •>!m—not a ripple on the face of it-but the fog h"kN es a. pall. Stopping is at j a complete standstill. i

SHOCKING DISCOVERS DOW LAIS. I BODY FOUND IX A POND. ,i the 011. Nl,,Tilay I;nlit 1,, -Lr poild it -L)ON%Illla,i,, 'I'op, ii: %hi(-.It droNv"([ ?lie 1 ?,l f til( "AV of ilia?! ?ee.1 thif? e tii,-It atteit(l,?(i d' ?) tlit? voting lidv itziuitKI. -it a-PPeo"?- I about three o'clock in the afternoon tlic, the druiiken 7ii:tlll, (31,1 1)?7 t le i,t of 0 tI,F XV daN. iiiul taken a 11-?Ti? '!I tllil ]I,tid, lj' of 0, ?hat 'gi tll t tli(? ltc?,d fair d,a(i iiiati. It. t?ie. cl?-lv of the Twyn-y-Wauri large 1 mm tiers of tit, aii(l, ti,?-? bo. liavil)" tlio Ixdy t.Akerl out of ,Ilo -,i,ater all, et Oll a to the the of tli, ,'Iotl. 'fh,?, 1),xi 'v a work'ii,Z iiiaii. al?olit 50 N-ear, of avle* o;t stij")bly bearfi, :tnci wliit add?z :iii Plerpe t O? nlYst,-rv- tc) the 1, that iN-Iii:ti t-iie %?-a-ter tt c)lle of the ul it AVt? foiitid tlt- arins ?t.it I lwz?4 wt,re t-,qstc.,?ed 1,7v '1',l whi(,b ii,,o oiijid hi,4; ncctk. Tiiitz 14-ou ?rr of S.,dill to IX)II?T t?, of ilic?--t d,?-,tl r) bers ,;iiielde. Uri i,?? "Ile I)i",Ilt I-Ioti olho tile but liolik? ?)f tli,iii (-,)iild rec,), lik' to t)e III ,el of 2 til'it give a olue- to the man's identity. .e

MORE WORK FOR l BROKE DOCKYARD ,y r^Q NEW FIRST-CLASS CRUiSEl* BE BUILT. petF The iie-%v firs?t-e-l?i,ss erni-c- to I-)(- ])'kilt ifer brok,? I)oek w ill be cailei the A,irom('dl?'? th, to 1,, 11.00(,-) tons 45,5ft. on ttie N,,tter-iiy,, aiil 43i,"t. er beatit, -')Pft tl;z c,? ?,iraugijt. 25t,t. 3in. sbe ?"iii 'arry ,.00-1 11 coal, and have a. speed of 20'5 knot-

The Rpv.Wi!:i:tni Andrews Downing. '?!) Minor <?non "f LIa,nda.f!' Cuthf-drai, '?p?t? presentpd by cb? Dea/n a,nd (??ha.pter of ?. p;9- totbevic?rag't; of Caprwent witi' ?'?*?.f?' coed. r?nderfd va.ca.nt by th<' d?a.th of t T.D.Jonea..??? .?.?_—n?,???'-

-op' .3 YEAHS' SYSTEM: J ¡ 3 YrE ARQ' ("4"El\1: .1. J ;) J.. PIANOFORTES by JhOAPWOI1[) PIANOFORTES by PIANOFORTES by KlRKMAS PI AN OFOiiTES by C gllapp PIANOFORTES fcy N); PIANOFORTES by E»A"5.> AND ALT. TMl LKADIJiU UA-&iCA& TBOM 1 TTCN SHILLINGS MONTHI' t 't, 1I .i ;er; &f!erwlucü,lwl.1. WI -i1 {Ul'L. (' ch.- ,"IIa¡,4e\ier t" Jn.. becOW:;c.tho'lrerl. O¡ j,¿Ultt. THOMPSON SHAC^ (LIMITED), 32. CASTLE STltr, SWANSEA. 1" J CR lIEI'UH ,n T O"t g;" T Át! W.;J V L. K' l.ALT \V IN l OVER TWO 1'TfOU8A 'm 'f'T1I(pJ" hav.: t)f:i.1ll from 1\ltJlÜi¡ j't\f"?& SIX GOLD M..bDAL:, AJI;'D ONJI: SlLV.1£1'( J1< have been awarded. I -e, Sold in Bottles, 2s. 9d. ?nd Pd., every* Sole Manufacturers: of A ?,s.9d. Bottle sent i'osi Free en reedP r^0y Stainpi. Local Agirifca—D, L. Evans, chew! road, Swansea; Tavier ,O(¡; Co., tn, laaae Gale, 10, High ktreot, W-DJNG "RINGS. WlhD.VG RINGS. ff GO TO BE OTTr' JJ"O' :)., \.) U .L i J.I k.- THK NOTED WEI;;rG lUNa SJ«)f S Y SMp Hynoki-aut i'odi-wyiuj .Prioda. 131, HiUH SXIUlEX, sWAN-SEA/y (Opposite Down .'t-d ijon.) I viseewrsp- j ..r ON INOTE OF HA,ND t;3r I l?SOf,. -BAp,JFT ,,T? SWAB 11, 1 1J IJUMLSTI PRiVACT. „„ 'as*3- suyrrroN'S a.1ld Marble, Stone, Granite,. Slate Works, ST. HELENS ROAD, SWA^S Manufacturers ef MONUMENTS. IIEADSXO> TOMBS, &c. DesjllfC t- < E A -r A N '"I.J.I. -L tr,' UNDBJ!'fI.KEti. FUNERA.L FIJR.a:)lijj,It. '1' ij 22, ALFRED STHEET. NEA ]!I& WKDDISta AN!>-ltTNBEAJ><?"w Er.„K..s, MAiNi. t JiOG-CA-KX'S, WAG002* ar ]o!Stllt2'in ..iJ ,I, T4r,' n, jS 5t.. f !'eleg.ra.p¡¡j ÅQW''>'o' ,\lIred .¿!J- l)/ Príuted :UJJ J'IIL:¡r.+.¡ r..¡' t!J! r:'i:ríet./ tJ¡d DA V II) DÁ"'V n ;1it the !)dil'e- h-relÕlí, "Suuth 'ai, JJaIl\' Post," 211, I:ilg" Swansea,

TRADE REPORTS. SWANSEA. Exchange. Tuesday. The speculative movement in the Glasgow pig iron warrants has been well maintained during the last week. but a slight relapse appears to have taken place to-day. The other brands of hematite and Middh-sborough have been influenced in sympathy with the improve- ment in the Scotch market, where the stock still contillues to be lessened each week, and everything is favourable to a further upward movement. In finished iron and steel the orders are scarce, and very few inquiries on the market. There are more inquiries for tin- plates, which is supposed to be stimulated by the rapid advance in the price of block tin. which leaves off nearly £ 3 per .on higher than our last report, and for some ,nie past tilis market has maintained a steady improvement, j This will increase the cost, of manut'actnring tin- plates, and a considerable increase in the price will be needed to cover the same. Oopper leaves off about £ 3 per ton to the good. There is no improvement in the price of coal. Fifl Ul.-isgovv warrants, 44s 2d.? 44s '?id, and 44s I(I (-tx6h b-,iyers- I borough Ni.). 3, 35.s Illd I)r?)iiipt other litiT,111)e].F in pr(,y)orti(,,ti? ttematit4? w,,irra'iAt, 44-,7d (f(-,r iy?ixel niiititers f.o.i?-. ('uniberlaiid, to N'ti(idle5bor,,iigit hematite, 42,s 7id. B(ii-X4 ]5s to C4 17R 6d ttli gl e.4 at usiial extra.,4, f.o. at, Nvorks. ,Iteet to C6 5g f.o.t. at work, Stet,l, Rtil??. -Heavy ise(,tioiis, X3 15s to C3 17a (?,d light tiect-io,iR, zC,4 7, 64 to 15 l.o.t. sleepers, angles, channel*, Ac., according te section and specification. Steel Sheets. — £ 5 15s to S,6 5s, "vith the usual extras for the higher gauges. Bessemer Steel. -Tiii -plate bars, £3 153 te £ 3 16s 3d Siemens tin-plate bars, best, £ 3 18s to £ 4—all delivered in the district, cash less 2 per cent. Tin-piales.—Makers' quotations for Bessemer steel cokcs. 9s 6d to 9s 9d; Siemens (cok« finish), 9« 9d to 10s tcrnes, per double box. 28 by 20 (J, 18s 6d, 19s. to 22s 6d best charcoal, 10s 6d to 12s 6d, according to finish of branei: wasters, 6d to Is per box Jess than primes. Odd sizes, usual extras. All delivered in Prince of Wales Dock, Swansea; cash, less 3 s*nd 1 per cent. Coppe,i-Cliiii bars, Y-44 7s 6d to E44 10s. Block Tin.-— £ 68 7s 6d to £68 10s. Spelter.— £ 14 128 6d to JE14 15s. per telegram received on 'Change. I Lead. English, XID 5s to EIO 7s 6d Spanish, R10 2s 6d to zElO 5s. Aitthrac,iteCool.-Bestbi,- vein, selected for malting purposes, lis 6d to 12s second quality ditto, 10s to 108 6d ordinary large, according to quality and selection, 8s 9d to 9s 6el small rubbly culm per ton, 4s to 4s 6d- all delivered f.o.b. Swansea, cash in 30 days, less 2 per cent. Steam Coals.-Large, 9s 6d to 9s 9d; second quality ditto, 8s 9d to 9s 3d; bunkers, accorst- ing to quality, 7a 6d to 9s 6d ■' small. 4* 3d te 4s 9d per ton, delivered f.o.b. Swansea, cash .5!J days, less 2 per cent. !()al -Large No. Bitu,n_ 'liouddki, Jos to Jos 3,1; tbi?ougb, 8s 3d to Ss 9d; small. 6, to 6.- 6d per ton lurge No. 2 1',hoii(Ida, 9s to 9s 3d through, 7a 3d to 7s 9d small, 58 to 5s 6d j per ton, delivered f.o.b. Swansea, cash in 30 days, less 2| per cent. Coke.—Best" foundry, 16s to 17s furnace, 12s to 12s 6d per ton, f.o.b. Swansea, cash 30 days, less 21 per cent. Patent Fuet.-109 3d to 108 6d. Iron Ores.-Tafna Ilm Kaibie, lis 3d to I lis 6d per ton, cx ship, cash 30 days, with an additional charge of Is 6d per ton for selecteJ large. Pitw9»d.—16s 3d per ton into trucks net cash 3t days. -u_ I