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CAPITAL AND LABOUR -1)- South Wahs Sliding-scale MEETING OF THE JOINT COMMITTEE. A Mere Favourable Outlcek. The meeting of the Sliding-scale Joint Com- mittee, held un Wednesday, as the Angel Hotel, Cardiff, was characterised, we are gratified to know, by much more cordial relationships than distinguished the previous one, when the four proposals of the workmen's representatives were dismissed with something like peremptory curt- ness. Those proposals, it will not be forgotten, are :— 1. That the Press be admitted into all meetings of the Sliding-sealo Joint Committee. 2. That an umpire be appointed in all cases of dis- pute. 3. That the wages be advanced or reduced 10 per ;ent. in every shilling in the following manner :_11/4 per cent for each FI,,(i per ton. Standard basis, 75 8ll &11d under 7sS1/2d per ton, as per December, 1879, rates. 4. The advisability of securing joint action ill the selling price of coal. The whole day was occupied in discussing thu proposals, not a single counter-proposition, we understand, being submitted by the employers. In the morning the discussion was formally opened by Mabon, M.P., after which Mr David Morgan delivered an able and vigorous speech in support of the claims put forward by the work men, this position of prominence being given to Mr Morgan on the present occasion because of his unavoidable absence from the Conference tt which these amendments were last discussed. During the afternoon, the employers' representa- tives retired to an adjoining room on three different occasions, and held separate consulta- tions. Eventually, it was mutually agreed to idjoucn negotiations, pending an attempt at settlement to be come to on or bafore the 21st of January. Failing a settlement, all negotiations will be broken off, and, of course, the Slidmg- scale abandoned. In the interim, a Conference of colliery delegates will be held, either a.t Aber- dare or Cardiff, and the settlement of the dispute may be said to almost entirely depend upon whether the delegates then assembled will entrust their representatives on the Sliding-scale Com- mittee wifh plenary powers. The men's repre- sentatives will meet to-day in Cardiff, when the date of the suggested Conferences will be fixed upon, and m all probability a manifesto will be issued to the collieries. The official report furnished of the proceedings of Wednesday was as follows :— A meeting of the Sliding-scale Joint Com- mittee was held to-day, at the Angel Hotel, Cardiff, under the presidency of Sir William Thomas Lewis, Mr W. Abraham, M.P., being 111 the vice-chair. There was a. full attendance of representatives on both side!. The object of the meeting was to further consider the questions in connection with the proposed revision of the Sliding-scale agreement. After an exchange of views upon the several points raised on behalf of the workmen, the meeting adjourned until January, in order that the workmen's representa- sives may obtain further information on the various matters, and also to give them an oppor. •unity of submitting to the workmen the advisability or otherwise of their authorising their representatives to meet those on behalf of the employers to discuss, and if possible enter into further arrangements on the Sliding-scale I principle, it having been agreed between the respective parties that the present relations between employers and employed are to continue until the 31st of January, 1893 (with the exception of the audit), and that the negotiations are to be closed, one way or the other, by the 21st of January." It there had been a general agreement to con- tinue the operation of the present Sliding-scale, it would, of course, have involved the taking of a new audit at the end of the prescribed period, and this would in all probability, owing to the state of the market, have entailed a further induction of wages. But by the agreement entered into on 'Wednesday, the operation of the audit clause is excluded, while the other business relations between employers and employed are to continue until January 31st. The Sliding-scale Committee will, presumably, remain In existence as a Board of Conciliation and Arbitration in minor disputes which may arise in the collieries repre- sented and it is thought that while the relations between the two sides are unstrained, there is a possibility, almost a probability, of a further extension of the period beyond the 21st of January, supposing at that time a definite conclusion has not been arrived at. It is satisfactory to note that there are indications of such a disposition prevailing; and, in view of the condition of the coal trade, there is an essential necessity for conciliatory measures being adopted on both sides, and for concessions being made. It will not be overlooked that there is a marked difference between the present crisis and that of twelve months ago. Then the masters had given in notices to terminate engagements, notices which expired with the Sliding-scale agreement on the 31st of December. Now no notices have been given, and, if given at all, they cannot be put in until the beginning of February, with the present negotiations broken off. > The Agitation in the Colliery Districts. Mr W. Abraham, M.P. (Mabcn), afcd Mr T. DaronwyIsaacs, both members ofthe Sliding-scale Joint Committee, on Tuesdayevening addressed a crowded meeting of miners at the Board Schools, Treorky, in defence of the Sliding-scale principle of regulating wages. The speakers were I sordinily received and were very attentively listened to. In accordance, however, with the practice prevalent in the Rhondda and district, no resolution was submitted either in favour of the Federation or of the Scale. On Monday evening Mr W. Abraham, M.P., and Councillor Thomas Richards were the principal speakers at a crowded meeting of miners held at Brynhyfryd Chapel, Rhymney, when the question of the Federation advocates were dealt with. At the close a resolution in favour of the Sliding-scale principle was passed with unanimity. Cardiff Junior Liberals and the Miners' Leaders. The workmen's representatives on the Sliding Scale Committee on Wednesday night accepted the invitation of Councillor Thomas (Cochfarf), chairman of the Cardiff Junior Liberal Associa- tion, to meet members of that association, of the Cardiff Trades Council, the Fabian Society, and the Progressive Labour League, at dinner at the Hotel Metropole. Councillor Thomas presided over the gathering, and the miners' representa- tives on the Sliding Scale Committee in atten- dance were Mr David Morgan, Mr P. D. Ree?. Mr T. Daronwy Isaac. Mr Thomas Richards, Mr Alfred Onions, Mr T. Davies, and Mr Lewis Miles. The toast of "The Workmen's Representatives on the Sliding-scale Committeewas submitted by the CHAIRMAN, who spoke of their services in the cause of industrial peace and progress, in warmly appreciative terms. Referring to the present crisis in the coal trade, he expressed a hope that anything like a repetition of the great strike of 17 years ago would not take place. The toast was cordially honoured. The first to respond was Mr DAVID MORGAN, who said that he had faith that the present difficulty would be satisfactorily settled. He pointed to the beneficial effects of the Sliding- scale principle to regulate wages in the South Wales coal trade. Mr P. D. REEs was a firm believer in the Sliding-scale, but said it ought to be revised every six months. The miners' representatives on the committee had been that day so far successful that, at any rate, there would not be a strike before the month of March, if at all. Mr T. DARONWY ISAAC said the people of Cardiff need have no fear for an immediate cessation of work in the coal trade. He enter- tained a very strong hope of an amicable settle- ment;, especially after the pleasant manner in which the deliberations of the Sliding-scale Com- mittea had been conducted that dav. Mr RICHARDS was also of opinion that a strike would be averted, and that they had laid the foundation for a new Sliding-scale agreement. Mr ALFRED ONIONS stated that the workmen's representatives on the Sliding-scale Committee were engaged in some very important negotia- tions at the present time, and although he scarcely knew what to say in the presence of- Press representatives on the question, yet he ventured to affirm that in their industrial struggle they would be more successful than the Junior Liberal Association had been, so far, in their political warfare. (Laughter.) They might depend upon it that if the miners got beaten in these negotiations they would not finish there. He sincerely hoped, however, that the pending negotiations would have a satisfactory issue, one that would avert a strike, and would result in such an agreement— if they had one—as would be mutually satisfactory to both parties. There was no doubt the question of the Federation considerably hampered them. An important principle was involved here. He was of opinion that the theories of the Federation were altogether impracticable and unrealisable. Until our methods of carrying on industrial and commercial life were changed it was impossible, he believed, for those theories to succeed. Nor could he believe that wages must govern prices, as the Federationists maintained. In the interests of South Wales and Monmouth- shire, and Great: Britain, he trusted that the present crisis would result in the upholding of a principle which had been so productive of good results and of peace in this district. While he was a man of peace, he was not a peace-at-any- prioe man, believing that the ability to strike was important to freedom. (Applause.) Mr LEWIS MILES and Mr T. DAVIES also spoke. Short addresses were afterwards delivered by Messrs Richards (secretary Trades' Council), Hobson (Fabian), Henry Thomas, Richard Davies, Councillor Jenkins. John Thomas, G. G. •„ Williams, W. M'Kechnie, E. Gronow, Councillor F. L. Short, T. S. Jones, Johnson, &c. The Sliding-scaie Amendments.—Letter frcm Mr D. A. Thomas, M.P. TO THR EDITOR. ?IR,—The position Mr Daronwy Isaac occupies In the councils of the colliers of South Wales, and his kindly references to myself, make me feel that I should be wanting in courtesy wete I not at once to reply to his questions, though he will, I am sure, appreciate the necessity for great caro and discretion on the part of anyone in dealing in the present grave crisis with matters now under the considesation of the Sliding-scale Joint Committee. Perhaps I did nob make my suggestions to which Mr Isaac refers sufficiently clear. They were these:— (1) Shorter notice for terminating the scale, ,.ith the obdect of lessfininsr. if possible, the keen i competition that now occurs in making contracts for-delivery some tune ahead. (2) No further reduction for some time to come, having regard to the enormous reductions to which the men have submitted during the past twelve months. (3) A minimum rate in the scale below which wages could not fall, however low prices might go, so that if sellers chose to go below a certain price they should be compelled to bear the whole loss themselves, instead of putting any of it upon the shoulders of their workmen. These three suggestions are perfectly distinct, and have distinct objects in view. Mr Isaac has, I think, confused the purpose of the second and third suggestions. It would always be better, in my judgment, if the workmen, whenever giving notice to end the scale, arranged that such notice should terminate in the summer, for in the first place in the event of any cessation of work occurring, they would, at that season of the year, find em- ployment elsewhere more readily, and, in the next place, employers would not have committed themselves to contracts for the ensuing year, and would be more free to arrange fresh terms with their workmen. With regard to the practicability of a minimum, I suggest it as an experiment, and one which, perhaps, could not be defended on strict grounds of political economy. Further, I do not at all agree with Mr Isaac that if it be practicable and desirable to have a minimum in wages corresponding to a selling price of 9s, then it, therefore, follows that alOs 6d minimum would be equally justifiable.—I am. &c., D. A. THOMAS. Bute Docks, Cardiff, Dec. 21st, 1892.

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