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Carmarthenshire Education Committee. The monthly meeting of the Carmarthen- shire Education Committee was held at the Carmarthen Townhall, on Thursday, the 11th inst. Mr John Lloyd, J.P., Penybank, pre- sided. There were ailso present Mrs J. V\- Gwynne Hughes, Tregeyb; Mrs Lloyd, Llian- elly; Mr John Johns, Pareeithin Mr David Evans, Manordaf; Mr J. Lloyd Thomas, Tan- lan; Mr J. Llew. Thomas., Hendy; Mr J. R. James, Llandovery; Mr H. J. Thomas, Pen- rhos; Rev J. Towyn Jones, Cwmamman; Rev Professor D. E. Jones., Carmarthen; Mr D. Davies, Rhiblyd; Rev J. H. Ilees, Burry Port; Sir Lewis Morris, Penbryn; Mr Ben. Evans, Brithdix; together with the Clerk (Mr J. W. Nicholas); tht Educational Clerk (Mr T. Brown); the Financial Clerk (Mr Pearce); the Architect (Mr W. P. Jenkins); and the Chie. Attendance Offcer (Mr James Morgan). SECULAR EDUCATION DISCUSSED. Mr H. J. Thomas called attention to the resolution passed at the La&t meeting of the Committee in favour of secula.r education. He objected to that iasmuch as no notice 01 motion had been given and it did not appeal on the agenda. This was brought on without notice at the last meeting, after the majority of the members had left. He thought that a resolution of that sort ought to appear on the agenda. It was a serious matter and ought to be discussed thoroughly as it stood it com- mitted the Education Committee to secular education. He really thought that it was not right that they should allow this to pass; he, therefore, protested against it. Mr J. R. James said that he concurred with what Mr H. J. Thomas had said. Due notice ought to have been given of such a motion. He was personally in favour of secular education, but lie should be prepared to waive his own opinion in favour of that which seemed to Hold sway in the country generally. He did not tlimk that such a resolution ought to be carried without the whole of the other members knowing that it was to come on. The tactics were not what they ought to be. i Mrs Gwynne Hughes said that she quite endorsed what had been said. She did not think that the resollltiou was an expression of the feelings of the majority of the com- mittee neither did she think it was an ex- pression of the feelings of the parents of the children who attended the Council schools. Surely their feelings ought to be considered. It was only natural that the parents should wish some kind of religious instruction to be given to the children. They could not always depend on the instruction they got in the Sunday School and in the home. She bad Lately come across a girl 20 years of age, who did not know who Moses was she did not know whether he was a man or a horse. How could such people understand the meaning of a Church service. Mr J. Johns: Is this in order. The Chairman said that he thought they might allow Mrs Gwynne Hughes to proceed. Mrs Gwvnne Hughes said that she was going to propose that. they should appoint a committee to see whether they could not arrive at a scheme of simple unsectarian reli- gious instruction in the schools on the lines of Merionethshire. Rev Towyn Jones: I protest against the irregularitv. The Chairman If you say the minutes are a correct record-- Rev Towyn Jones: But I was not her, Mr J. Johns: Whose fault was that (laugh- ter). Mrs Gwvnne Hughes was going on to say that there were only five members present when the rsolution was passed, when The Rev Towvn Jones, speaking in Welsh at the same time, said that those who were left behind represented the whole Committee. Mr H. J. Thomas said that would have been the case if there had been a notice of motion.. Professor Jones rose to point out some- thing, and lie, Mrs Gwynne Hughes, the Rev Towyn Jones, and Mr H. J. Thomsa were on their feet at once. Rev Towyn Jones: I protest against this canvassing going on, and which brought Mrs Gwynne Hughes here. I stand for the Bible as much as .Gwvnne Hughes any day. Mrs Gwyne Hughes: There has been no canvassing.. Professor Jones: I rise to a point of order. I think the question—— # There wore crws of Ghswir, chair, and. it was impossible for anything to be understood for a time as there were five or &ix members speaking at the same time. Professor Jones: What is the question? The Chairman: The confirmation of the minutes of the last meeting-whether they are a correct record of what took place. After a little more disorder, the Chairman was able to put the q net si on to the meeting, and it was decided that the minutes be con- firmed. )1r. Gwynne Hughes: Can't I give notice to bring it en at the next meeting? I think I am in the right. Rev Towyn Jones: Can't I sav one word^ There were only five mem Iters left behind at the meeting, and they-- Mr J. Johns: -Were the only sensible It was understood that. Mrs Gwynne- Hughes's notice of motion be placed on the agenda fcr the next meeting. MORE EXEMPTIONS WANTED. The Clerk said that there were a Large number of applications from parents who wished their children to be exempted from attending school. Some of the applications were from the parents of children who had failed to pass the examinations for Labour certificates. Supfc. Morgan said that if they granted many applications of th:s sort, it would be impossible to enforce school attendan«e at all. If there were any case which deserved special notice lie would bring it before them. NO MIRACLES. Mr Killick. the headmaster of Gwemogle j School, said that he had had to withdraw from the appointment which he had received last month because he could not find a substi- tute to take his place. As he did not pretend to be a worker of miracles, he asked tnem to accept his three months' notice. Professor Jones: Ve accept it with regret that he cannot work miracles. DAIRY SCHOLARSHIPS. Some correspondence was read bearing on the case of a young lady from Llansawel. She had been granted a dairy scholarship at the meeting of the Committee, but had after- wards been passed over as it appeared that she had not fulfilled one of the conditions which was that she should have amended a course at the Iravetlimc, dairy school. It was pointed out on her behalf that it was very many years. since the travelling dairy school ( harl been to Llansawel. ) The Clerk s:aid that when it was found that this young lady was not qualified they had offered it to the next on the Ijst, She, too, wai found to be disqualified, and the scholar- ship had been offered to and accepted by a third. The Chairman said that the Professor had informed the committee that anybody going lip there without having gone through the elementary course would not be benefitted hy the instruction. Mr H. J. Thomas said that they allowed the boys to take agricultural scholarships without any previous preiparation. Mr J. Johns moved that they grant this young lady an extra scholarship, and granl one less next year.. Rev W. Davies, in seconding, said that it was a most deserving oasp. Professor Jones said that there were several other cases of the same kind. They might just as well grant five scholarships exti-A as one. The Chairman said that they passed over another as well as this young lady in this dis- trict. Wculd they grant scholarships to both.. Mr J. Johns said that the other young la<ry referred to had a sister who had had a &cholr- 61a i P. The Chairman said the matter could not be discussed without suspending the Stand- ing Order. Ten members voted for the suspension of the Standing Orders. The Clerk said that it required three- fourths of those present to suspend tue Standing Onkrs. Only ten out of the nine- teen had voted for the suspension. Rev Towyn Jones asked that the matter he put to the vote again. Many of them d,id net understand that a three-fourths majority was required. The ^nan-man: We have finished with it. LLANDOVERY BRITISH SCHOOL. A letter was received from the Board of Education stating that Llandovery British Selimil would not be recognised after the 31st March next, unless the DepaJrtment were satisfied that a permanent building was about Mr J. R. James moved, Mr David Bvans 1 seconded, and it was unanimously carried that an extension of time be -applied for. rohe erected. THE TUMBLE CASE. Evidence was read from the Tumble, which showed that the holder of ia P.T. Scholarship there had been unable to proceed with his course owing to ililness. It was, therefore, decided to waive the question of a return of the fees. THE LLANDDEUSANT SCHOOLS. The Clerk saad that the managers were willing to transfer this school, but the owner declined to consent. The Committee had made requisitions for repairs, and these had not been carried out. Mr D. Davies proposed that they allow this to stand over until the new Act came into force.—This was agreed to. INFORMATION FOR THE HOUSE OF LORDS. The Clerk said that he had received a request from the Board of Education to furnish information required by the House of Lords regarding the religious instruction given in the Council schools. H had sent the required inforanaition. Mm Gwynne Hughes: It is most unsatis- factory. TALLEY SCHOOL—A LOCAL PROTEST. The Rev Alban Davies, Vicar of Talley, headed a deputation of 23, which came to pro- test against the erection of a new school at Cwmdu. He regretted that Mr Davies, of Tynycwm, was not there to head the deputa- tion, as he had an important meeting to attend in connection with the Congrega- tionalists at Ffalldybrellin. Mr Mabon Davies: He is not a minister is he? The Vioar, continuing, said that the pairsihioners were willing to spend any money to put the present building in good repair. The population of the place was decreasing. They were told that the committee were going to build a. school for 60 children. The number on the books was 31, whilst the aver- age attendance was 26. There were four or five schools within three miles of Cwmdu school, and, therefore, the parishioners thought it hard upon them to have a, new school built. It would mean a rate of 3d in the £ in that parish. They believed in edu- cation, but not in paying more than was necessary. The building, he was informed, was estimated to cost J6900, and the cost was always more than the estimate. Widows were only allowed Is 6d a week to feed and clothe their children— £ 3 18s a year. But every chad in Cwmdu school cost £ 5 annually to educate. The population of tue parish was decreasing. Rev W. Davies: How many of you are from the neighbourhood of Cwmdu ? Only three members held up their hands. Mrs Gwynne Hughes said that the ven- tilation of the old school was defective, the roof was defective, and there was no head- room. If they read the report they would see that the schooil would have to be rebuilt. The position was. very low, and if the school was to be rebuilt they had better have a school in a new position. Rev WT. Davies: Who said the estimate was £900. Rev Alban Davies: I cannot, give my authority; but we have it on good authority. Rev W. Davies: Before you brought such a statement here, you must have had some authority to influence your minds.—The Rev W. Davies then appealed to the Architect to answer the question. The Architect said that they had built schools at tl2 per head; but he had give-i no person any authority to state that the school would cost any particular sum. Rev W. Davies: Do you consider the pre- sent building worthy of education. Rev Alban Davies I have no opinion cue way or the other. Rev W. Davies: I ask you as a gentleman in the neighbourhood who takes II; Jiderist in the progress of everything good, if you consider tha-t it is in any way wo"tij of a public school so far as the buildi ig and the site is concerned. Rev Alban Davies: That is the opinion of the parishoners and of the Government In- spector. Rev W. Davies: I understand you held one or two meetings. Rev Alban Davies: Three. Rev W. Davies: Did you hold any meet- ings in Cwmdu. Rev Alban Davies said that the parish meetings were aways held in Talley. Rev W. Davies: Answer my question. Rev Alban Davies: No. Rev W. Davies You held no public meet- ing in the very neighbourhood where the school is to be. Whrere did you hold the meetings. Rev Alban Davies: At Talley School. Rev W. Davies: How far is that from Cwmdu ? Rev Alban Davies: About a mile and a quarter. Rev W. Davies: I am told it is two miles. In the neighbourhood of one school you held a meeting to destroy ,another school two milea off ? What was the majority? Wasn't it only two votes Mr H. 0. Long Price (who was present, but not with the deputation): Three. Rev Alban Davies.: The minority did not trouble about it. They said We are going to have the school, and it does not matter." Professor Jones: They have plenty of faith. The Clerk went through the Ion,, list of repairs which H.M. Inspector reported as necessary, and the Vioar said that they would be willing to do them all. Mrs Gwynne Hughes said that they might expect an increase of population in the dis- trict as a railway was going to be made there. Mr J. Johns said that the fact that there were empty houses there was in favour of an increase of population. Rev Alban Davies then thanked the Com- mittee for hearing them, and hoped that the Committee would meet the wishes of the deputation. Mr W. Mabon Davies: Hear, hear. The deputation then withdrew. The Chairman said that if a new school were built the cost would fall mainly on the locality, whilst if the school were repaired the cost would come out of the county funds. Mr B. Evans said that they were always demanding popular control. It seemed to him that the locality had to pay, and had very little control. It would be only reasonable, therefore, that the Committee should at least hold an enquiry on their own account. He moved that they appoint a small committee to hold an enquiry with the Clerk and the Architect. Mr W. Maibon Davies seconded. Rev J. H. Rees said that some members of the deputation came from the neighbourhood of the school. Rev W. Davies said that it was only car- ried by three voftes at the other end of the parish. Mr J. R. James said that there were wheels within wheels in country districts, and it was no good going on face facts. Mr D. Davies asked if this was a Council school. The Clerk said it was. Mr D. Davies asked how the parish was going to spend money on it then. The Clerk: They mean they would not grumble. Mr J. Johns said that when an enquiry was held in a county district, labourers and small farmers were often afraid to come forward and to speak their minds. He moved that they proceed with the building. Mr J. LIew. Thomas seconded the amend- ment, which was carried by 9 votes against 6. Mr W. -Iali->oii Davies: You are very wrong. The Clerk said that. if the objectors had sent in their objections to the Board of Edu- eat ion in time, they could have a Govern- ment enquiry. THE TEACHING OF WELSH. Rev Towyn Jones had a motion on the agenda in of the inclusion of Welsh in the school curriculum. He asked if he could be allowed to take it now. If it came at the end of the agenda, it might be said that it was passed when the bulk of the members were absent. The Chairman said that he could move it then if he did not take too much time. The Rev Towyn Jones said that he moved the resolution. The Chairman Does anybody second it? Mr W. N. Jones: I do. Tip Chairman put the motion,which was carried unaniimouoy. Rev Towyn Jones said that this was a big
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Five of iiis Wives Living. TEN YEARS' PENAL SERVITUDE. LIVED IN CARMARTHEN AND OTHER WELSH TOWNS. At Wilts Assizes at Salisbury, 0111 Thursday of last week, Albert Henry Capper, who for- merly lived at Carmarthen and other Welsh towns, was brought up on five charges of bigamy and three charges of making false entries in the marriage register at Salisbury Prisoner was. a native of Cheltenham, and served some yeal-, in the Gloucester Regiment and the Royal Welsh Fusiliers. In 1893 he married Mairy Eleanor O'Beime, whom he induced to come from Dublin to Aldershot. Ho soon deserted her, and for thirteen years he seems to have done little else but contract bigamous marriages. He taeated the various women whoan he deceived with great callous- ness, and, by changing his tllade and assum- ing another name, up to March of this yewr he esicaped detection. Iucualt month he was arrested at Carmarthen, where he was about to marry Lily Mugford, and the inquiries of the police revealed an extaordinary story. After being discharged from the Army for bad conduct in 1894, homa-i-ried Mary Ellen Ccoke, at Cheltenham, and lived with her for some time in Wales, treating her in a most cruel and heartless, manner. His next victim was Lilian Alary Watts, whom he married in 1898 at Weaklvtone, and deserted in Novem- ber, 1902. Capper then induced Rasa Clamp Colchester, to go to London with him, and a few weeks later they were married at Hamp- stead. For three months they lived in Lon- don, an dprisoner then disappeared, only to conrtact another marriage in July, 904, with Alice Louisa Noble, at Stroud Green. Sub- sequently, prisoner went back to Clamp ,and as evidence that he was a reformed character he produced confirmation papers to her. He soon tired of her, and then turned up at Sal- bury, where hei became an active member of the Wesleyan body in that city. He posed as a devout Christian man, and took an active part in the Men's Own Brotherhood. On the 26th August, 1905, he marriied Mrs Rodwell, a widow, and a momber of the congregation of the Wesleyati Church, Salisbury. He left her and went to Carmarthen. Prisoner pleaded guilty. The Lord Chief Justice said that, with one exception, this was the worst case of bigamy that had ever coane before him. It was diffi- cult to express in language his sense of the enoinity o it he prisoner's crime. He would be sent,enoed to seven, years' penal servitude on each count of bigamy, the sentences to run concurrently, and he would also receive three penal servitude for making false entry The sentence was received by the public in I court with loud applause.
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rThe Trouble at Jerusalem.…
r The Trouble at Jerusalem. llwynypia. THE DEACONS MAKE AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT. THE SITUATION MADE CLEAR. To the Editor Carmarthen Weekly Reporter. Sir,—A contemporary reporting on the above has cast a serious reflection both cn Jerusalem Church and its pastor, the Rev. W. S. Jones, and in order that the real situ a tion may be made clear to your readers, we solicit your indulgence in granting publicity to the following facts. The Rev W. S. Jones undertook the pastor- ate of this church (numbering 412) on March 20th, 1904, at their unanimous invitation. At the outset he was confronted with a ier- menting slander case which threatened "he peace of the church, and was down for hear- ing at an Assize Court to be held in the co-'ise of a few days. After a consultation with nis deacons, who desired him to make the best possible arrangement, Mr Jones eventually effected a settlement of the case without going to the Assizes at all, and thus saved the church from being dragged through tbe mire of a law trial. In August, 1904 (a few weeks before the outbreak of the revival), Mr Jones engaged in open-air e,vangel-istic work after the ser- vices at the, chapel, and at the end of each service invited the audience to the vestry. This was continued for some time, and even- tually culminated in a division of opinion amongst the more stoical, who did not regard Mr Jones' methods with any particular ap- proval; but as the revival was now in its full progress, any outspoken criticism ef b's. methods we're deemed inopportune and inad. visable. In February, 1905, seven of his. 14 deaams resigned from the diaconate, and ail the members present, except 24 only, voted to accept the resignations without hearing their reasons. The same night, 54 candidates were received into full membership. About six months later followed the visit of Pastor Howton to Carmarthen, at whose meetings the Rev W. S. Jones, with other prominent ministers and laymen, was re- ported to have been present. On November 19th, the deacons were appointed by the church to consider and report upon the news- paper and other reports dealing with Pastor Howton's visit and Mr Jones' presence there. At a subsequent specially-called meeting, in which the Rev W. S. Jones was present and questioned, the report, of the deacons was read, and a feeling of resentment at the un- fair exception taken by the Press to Mr Jones' presence at the "Pastor's" meeting was expressed. On the following Sunday, the Church decided by a majority to accept the deacon's report. In this connection it is significant to note that the deacons, who had resigned as mentioned above, refused'to con- form to a proposal that the present and re- tired deacons constitute the enquiry. On December 10th following, about 30 mem bers refused to partake of communion, pre- sumably owing to the majority having deci- ded in favour of the minister, and they abruptly left the service after creating an indescribable "scene." The service, how- ever, was proceeded with, and at the close, without any consultation with deacons or members, the pastor precipitately announced his intention of resigning the pastorate in a month. Evidently he was much grieved, and like ourselves had never witnessed such a scene at the Lord's table. A week later, at a meeting of pastor and deacons, the whole situation was discussed, and it was unanimousy agreed that it would be unwise on Air Jones' part to resign his pest at that juncture; and the pastor desiring the future peace and well-being of the church "which is above all things," decided to abandon his intentions of leaving, and accepted the clauses provided in the church deeds dealing with disputes between pastor and church. Acting upon its terms, he re- quested the church to appoint three indepen- dent arbitrators—he (Mr Jones) would also appoint three-to discuss and finally settle matters. At this meeting he, however, de- sired the church to name the six, he accept- ing the remaining three, and the following were appointed:—Dr Morris, Treorchy Rev R. B. Jones, Porth; Rev Charles Davies, Cardiff; Rev E. U. Thomas, Carmarthen; Rev E. Edmunds, Swansea; and Councillor W. P. Thomas, Treorchy. None of your readers, we feel positive, will question the integrity and ability of either of these gentle- men to decide the matter. In the meantime, a house to house petition was headed, and the church members were canvassed in various ways for signatures, call- ing upon the pastor to resign at the end of the month as he at first intended. This petition, it is supposed, was signed by 186. On January 3rd, 1906, the arbitrators met "in oamera" at Jerusalem Vestry to decide] upon a course of enquiry, following which a letter was received by the church from the arbitratotrs stating that they had found, according to the church deeds, that the en- quiry was quite in order. They also solicited evidence for their next sitting, to be given in writing and properly signed by all having complaints against the pastor or the church, and complainants were desired to be at hand to verify any statement made. During the arbitrators' second meeting, the pastor, a few of the deacons, and the leaders of the opposion and a number of their followers attended at the vestry ready to be called upon. Eventually, the pastor, two deacons, and two of the opposing party (the latter being officially deputed by the others to represent them) were called upon and interviewed separately and privately, after which the enquiry was adjourned. At the third sitting of the arbitrators, representa- tives of the respective parties were again in attendance ready to be called upon if neces- sary. The arbitrators' award was read on Febru- ary 12th to a specially-convened and numer- ously-attended church meeting, and it stated amongst disciplinary matters that the arbi- trators could find no trace of the pastor having violated any of the distinctive princi- ples â the Particular Baptists, and that the withdrawal of his intention to leave was quite in order. On the following Sunday evening the church unanimously passed (by standing on their feet) a resolution instruct- ing the deacons to carry out all the resolu- tions and suggestions contained in the arbi- trators' award. On Mairch 8th, the malcontents met at another building to discuss their position, and later notified the deaoens by letter that they would not ,accept the arbitrators' award, branding the same as dishonest and unfair, and declaiming their intention of appealing to the committee of the East Gla- morgan Baptist Association. On March 18th, the pastor and deacons acknowledged the receipt of the Advisory Committee's letter requesting the church to be represented at an enquiry of theii-s, and also solicited the names of the 186 signatories. As the church had accepted the arbitrator's award, whoso decision was final and binding, they could not, with all due respect to the committee, act on that committee's instruc- tions. Consequently, on April 11th, the com- mittee met a minor portion of the opposing party at Tabernacle, Pontypridd, and after one short sitting, at which they received the evidence ot one section only, they forwarded instructions to the church which entirely re- versed the decision of the independent arbi- trators. Amongst other matters they acl- vised both parties to agree to give six months' notice to the pastor! and to clear the "big pew" cf the deacons! If this was refused, the cammittee would then undertake to pro- vide separate ministry for the 111 (Matters had by no means, however, arrived to' a "finis" with this committee's instruc- tions, for on April 29th, 75 members refused to accept coaranunion at a service in which there were OU>J communicants present. At this meeting one of the malcontents an- nounced ia meeting for the following Wednes- day, but the pastor and deacons immediately declared the s'ame to be unconstitutional, and would not be considered a church meeting. On May 2nd and 9th the opposition held meetings in the chapel to consider their future movements, whilst the church held its I usual prayer meetings in the vestry. At the opposition meeting on May 9th, only 44 attended. On May 27th occurred the "scene" which was referred to in the report. At the com- men cement of 'the communion service, Mr Jones, the prs r, announced that all those who had (absented themselves from com- munioii for the past three months would be suspended ponding enquiries being made into each individual case. On this announcement being made, some of the members affected protested against this action, nothvith^t-and- ing that they had already deliberately re- fused communion for six months or more, whilst others persisted in reading some reso- lutions which they said had been passed at their sectional meeting; and they publicly declared that they were carrying out the in- st ructions of the Advisory Committee of the Eas.t Glamorgan Baptist Association. We cannot believe that the Advisory Committee had advised this procedure. EventuaNy, peace was restored, and the communion ser- vice proceeded as usual. We should note here that the church have refrained absolutely at every meeting from falsing any part in the disturbance, and it is also a significant fact that in spite of the refusal of a number of members to commune for over six months, and an organised boycott of the ministry iand other funds and the meet- ings generally, that the minister's salary and other expenses are (being met. The crux of the whole matter at present is that despite the fact that all sections were represented at the enquiry by independent arbitrators, the opposing section refused to abide by the decision arrived at in that en- quiry. As the pastor pointed out to a Press representative, he had no alternative but to abide by the decision of the arbitrators, whe- ther this happened to be favouraible or other- wise to himself. As he further pointed out with regard to the suspension of members when the latter had 'absented themselves from communion service for three consecutive months, he was only acting in accordance with the rule and custom of the church. It was not competent for him, as he etated, to recognise the dissentients as a party or sec- tion, and the suspension would only be in force as long as the necessary investigation into each case would last. The petitioning or ministers to leave a church, when a section so desired, cannot be too strongly condemned, for besides being unconstitutional in church or other matters (the majority of a properly caUed meeting binding the whole), it seriously affecto not only the h..ippin-ss of a pastor and the peace of a church, but retards the glorious work of the Master. If the unconstitutional pro- cedure adopted by the, malcontents at Jeru- salem became a practice in our churches, then indeed would Christianity suffer to the extent that her professors would drag the cause and the banner of the, Lord through the mire of public ridicule and contempt. Mr Jones, was recently described by an able and well-known minister, and readily acknowledged generally, to be one of the niosit brilliant intellects in the Welsh pulpit, but the persecution for his opinions has been severe. But believing, as we honestly do, that he is a God-fearing servant and a true brother, we are determined as far as lies in our power to calrry out the provisions of the church deeds for the protection of the church a,nd its minister. The Rev W. S. Jones is not the first minister of Jerusalem Church we have supported and at some cost. Having thuG given your readers a true and official statement, we do not intend follow- ing up any further correspondence. I Thanking you, yours faithfully, DAVID RICHARD. THOS. DAVIES, Sec. of the Church. JOHN W. RICHARDS, Treasurer. THOMAS THOMAS. GEO. EVANS, Sec. of the Deacons. JOHN EVANS. Deacons of Jerusalem Chuch. P.S.—The number of .members received by Mr Jones on behalf of the church since his advent in March, 1904, are as follow:-By baptism, 118; reinstated, 45; by letter, 37; total, 200. Released in a regular manner to form a new church at Tyntyla, Llwynypia, about 60.
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Carmarthenshire Licensing Committee. LICENCES EXTINGUISHED AT BURRY PORT. The annual meeting of the Carmarthen- Licensing Committee was held at the Guild- hall, Carmarthen, on Friday Mr Arthur Lewis presiding. Three public houses were referred for ex- tinction from the Llanelly Petty Sessional Division, all being situate in Burry Port. They were the Ca.stle Inn, the Joiners' Arms, and the Newfoundland Inn. Mr W. Llewelyn Williams, M..P. (instructed by Mr W. W. Biodie, as clerk to the magistrates), ap- peared for the licensing justices at Llanelly. The Castle Inn was stated to be one of a group of five licensed houses near the railway station at Burry Port. The licensee is Mr Watkin AYau.ams., captain of the steam-tug Maibel, the registered owners being Nlessi-s 11 el Buckley's Breweiy Company (Limited), Lllan- elly, and Mr E. Badger, Spring-gardens, Burry Port. The rateable value was put down at £ 18s 10s per annum. The Joiners' Arms was one of a group of LC seven public-houses about 200 yards away from the railway station. The licensee was Mr David Rowlands, and the registered owners Messrs Buckley's Brewery Company (Limited), The rateable value is JC14. Both the Castle and the Joinens Anns are situated within a circle having a radius of 600 yards, in which there are nineteen licensed houses. The- Newfoundland Inn is situated 200 yards outside that radius, and the licensee is Mrs Mary Ann Samuel, and the registered owners Mes-rs Buckley's Brewery Company (Limiiited). The rate,alile, value is tll. There are two other licensed premises within 200 yards, viz., the Pemberton Arms and the Farmers' Arms. The ground upon which each license was referred to quarter sessions by 'the renewal authority was that it was not required on account of congestion. Mr Martin Richards, Llanelly, who ap- peared for (Messrs Buckley, the registered owners of the houses, intimated at the out- set that they did not intend contesting the deoLsMn cf the renewal authority at Llan- elly, and that they did not apply for the renewal of the licenses. Mr Llewelyn Williams: The only point is whether it would be safe to act without any evidence at all. A case has been decided that evidence must be heard. The Chairman: The justices having made a report, is tltdt not p.. facie evidence against the license? Mr Richards: I am quite prepared to;ad,niit the kiots as stated by Mr Williams. Counsel, however, held that. it was advis- able to prove the facts, and Mr Brodie (the clerk to the Llanelly justices) and Police- seargeant Thomas, Buny Port, were called to describe the locale, condition, and trade of the houses. It was stated that in a radius of 600 yards of the railway station there was one licensed house to every 147 inhabitants. It was stated that Mrs Samuel was the only licensee who was not Mining to accept the apportionment proposed to be made, and she was advised by the Chairman to seek legal advice. It was nientioned that im trade had be-on done at the Newfoundland Inn since February.
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question, and he wished to say something on it. The Chairman If you are going to make a long speech, you must take it in its order. We have a lot of work to go through. Mr John Johns: It is carried unanimously. Rev Towyn Jones: Nothing will come ot oairrying. it. We must do something. Rev W. Davies proposed that they appoint a small committee to draw up a syllabus of instruction in Welsh. The following committee was appointed: The Chairman, Mr J. Johns, Mr W. N. Jones, Rev Towyn Jones, and the Rev W. Davies. AUDIT OF THE COUNTY SCHOOLS. The Clerk said that he had no desire to audit the accounts of the county schools again as he was the Clerk, it placed him in rather an awkward position. It was decided after some discussion to offer the post to Mr Claude R. Davies, solici- tor, Llandilo, at £ 20 a year, on condition that he waived whatever claim he has for pension as an official of the defunct County Governing Body. WELSH NATIONAL COUNCIL. The report of the delegates at the Llan- drindod Conference was placed before the Committee. Professor Jones objected to the giving of a majority of one to Glamorgan and Monmouth He thought that they ought not to agree to any .scheme which did not give any ten counties a clear majority. He thought also that the basis of contribution should be the assessable vailue and not the rateable value and that the rating power of the National Council should not exceed Id instead of 2d as suggested. Rev Towyn Jones said that they shouted a good deal that taxation and representation should go together. Why should they oppose it here? He would trust Glamorgan and Monmouth in Nationalism sooner than Car- marthenshire any day ("No, no.") He had tried many times to bring forward the cause of Welsh Nationalism before that Committee He had left his own cymanfa that day so that he might advocate the cause of Welsh Nationalism at the Committee, and he had not been allowed to speak. It was all very well for the Clerk to speak so loudly for Welsh Nationalism at the Cardiff Conference when they did nothing for it. The condition of things as regarded the teaching of the Welsh language in the schools was a disgrace to the county. No education was what it ought to be if it were not in harmony with its environment. Had anybody ever heard of a school in England in which English was not taught? But the Welsh laguage was pooh- poohed at this committee. The Chairman: You have got all you asked to-day. What more do you want? Rev Towyn Jones: I have not ("Oh, oh.") [ am not going to be shouted down. Mr J. R. James: Mr Jones should not con- demn the whole Council. He had what he wanted. Of course, if he wants to fire off a speech that is another thing. Rev Towyn Jones said that he had tried to get a clause inserted in the county scheme, and lie had failed. Their salvation was in Monmouth and Glamorgan, as well as in Car- marthenshire. Why should they go against the. spirit of Nationalism? They ought to be true to their own principle of taxation and representation going together. Mr J. Johns: What has Mr Towyn Jones been saying? I don't know. Mrs G wynne-Hughes: You have been asleep. Mr J. Johns said that in population these two counties had the majority; but it had not been shown that they had it in rateable value. He did not think that they should sacrifice everything for the sake of a little bit of patriotic Welsh. He did not see that they weire so much for Welsh patriotism in Glamorganshire. There was no Welsh taught in their schools, and there. were scores of teachers who could not talk Welsh. He did net think there was a single resolution in Glamorganshire relating to the teaching of Welsh, whereas in Carin-airtheiish-ire, they had passed it. Rev Towyn Jones: What has b-come of it? Mr J. Johns said that it had been sent to the teachers. The Rev Towyn Jones had turned a somersault since this question had first come before them. Rev Towyn Jones: In rateable value they are more. Rev W. Davies said that if rateable value and population were taken together, the rest of the kingdom would be swamped in Parlia- ment by London. Rev Towyn Jones said that Glamorgan and Monmouth had conceded many points. Rev W. Davies: They have kept the majo- rity. Rev Towyn Jones: They are entitled to more than one. The Chairman said that the elementary schools would be financed by the Treasury, and the money raised by the Welsh National Council would only be required for Training Colleges and Industrial schools. Professor Jones: And for secretaries and for whippers in. Mr J. Lloyd said that some of the dele- gates were talking of a guinea a day and ex- penses for themselves. If they got a 2d rate there would be no difficulty in their allowing themselves five guineas a day. It was finally left to the Clerk to procure for the next meeting statistics of the rateable value of the different counties. THE EDUCATION BILL. On the motion of Mr D. Evans, Manordaf, the committee passed a resolution desiring the Government to adhere to Clause 25 of the Education Bill as it stands. Mr Evans also carried a resolution as to Clause 26, viewing "with great apprehension the delegation of powers proposed to the clause as it stands." Mr B. Evans, Brithdir, in disapproving of Ola/use 26 in its present form, .recommended giving to the County Council powers to dele- gate the management of elementary educa- tion to urban and district councils. The consideration of this matter was deferred.