Carnarvon and Denbigh Herald and North and South Wales Independent

CONDOLENCE. ^Iderman J. E. Greaves, at the outset, ferr.d to ihe <l"->ch of Mis Richard Dav;es, the fur. d to ihe {1rJth of Mis Richard Daves, the bpJcvcd wiis of their chaiiman. which had oc- culted since the last mating, and moved a vcte < f condolence with him in his bereavement. In acknowledging the vote, the Ctiairman in. ved a vet" of condolence with the famir s of the lat? Mr W. Evans. Lbndudno. and Mr J. Ev?rs Jones, who bc! occupied feats on the C c eil since it was established. The votes wen carded in deep silence, the. members upstanding. „,f1TItm?p survieyor'S committee.

Mr C. H. DaTbishire submitted the report of this committee, which stated that the survey- or s quarterly estimate of expenditure, amcunt- inT to J32700 and the annual estimate of ex- penditure. amounting to £112.300. were con- sidered and approved M. The following recom- mendations were made in respect of urban main roads claims —-Bangor. JB604 4s 4d Carnar- Y;;n. £500; Criccieth..625. The surveyor ha-v- u reported that certain main roads had been d unaged by heavy mine and timber traffic, re- solved that it be recommended that the County I Council appoint a small committee to consider this matter generally, and be authorised to take I the opinion of counsel as to the powers of the Council. Arso. that the practice in other coun- ts .s with respect to damage done to the roads be ascertained. The surveyor reported that lie in- tended during the ensuing summer to point and r-nair the following bridges, viz. :—Carnarvon District: Tai'nlon. in the parish of Clynnog; Sychnanr. Llanaethaiarn. tBethesda District Penucha'rllvn. Llanberis; Gaseg. Llanllechid. Bcttwsycoed District Maen. Ceunant and Rhvdvmeirch. penmachno. Tremadoc Dis- trict Brvnvbeddau. Llanystumdwy; Crych- ddwr. Llanllyfni. Pwllheli District Clochvdd, Llannor; RhVdv?wystl. Abererch Afon Fawr. Penllech. It wa« resolved that the County 'Council assent to the 'Llanllvfni Parish Council borrowing the sum of £ 600 for buriaL ground purposes. A letter from Mr Robert [Roberts. Yr Efail, Sam. near Pwllheli, in which he c"a.imed B50 compensation from the County Council in respect of injuries received by his ¡ wife, who met with an accident owing to the alleged defective state of a county main road drain, having been considered, it was resolved that a reply be sent expressing regret as to the accident, but that the County Council are not responsible. Bills a-mounting 10 £228915s were examined, and recommended for payment.

WEIGHTS AND MEASURES COMMITTEE. This committee reported that Mr John Hughes bad been elected chairman for the current year. Thie inspector for the southern district saving reported that he hiad inspected a set of old standards weiiglbts arod 'meiasuTas found when making alterations ait the iPwlilbeflli OlqL. Town Hal, and found them in a much better, repair than the standards used! by bun, and as be had only one set. be asked foT permission to buy them. It was resolved that the clerk be matructed to as- certain to whom the standards found: at the Olid) I Town Hall Pwllheli, belonged. The county analyst's report for tihe quarter ended! 31 st Majth. 1903, was submitted. The report stated thlat 35 samples bad been racs-ived for analysis, and that three had been found to be adulterated:, or in the proportion of 85 per cent. All tin- butter samples were free from an excessive amount of water. It was resolved that it be recommended that. Mr W. F. Lowe. of Chester, be district agricultural analyst under the Fertilisers I and Feeding Stuffs Act, 1893, and that a fee vS I 10s 6d be paid to himj for eacb analysis.. On the motion of Mr John Hughes, the report was adopted'. 0

COUNTY RATE COMMITTEE. Mr D. P. Williams presented the report of the County Rate Committee, which had resolved that the surveyors of taxes for the three dis- tricts in this county be respectively asked to furnish this committee with the present totals of Sch. A. assessments for each parish within their districts, to enable the committee to as- certain what alterations have taken place since the basis for county rate now in force was pre- pared. Mr J. Menzies having stated that h8 would gratuitously bring the valuation of quar- ries in the county, at' recently made by him, up to date. resolved that the offer of Mr Menzies to place his services graruitouslv at the disposal of the committee as valuer of all the quarries be accepted with thanks, and that the committee provide all professional and clerical assistance ■which he may require. Resolved that the clerk to the Conway Union be asked to,.furnish this committee with a full copy of the valuation of 1 railways, far the Carnarvonshire parishes, with- in their Union, made by Mr Marshall. Resolved- that the clerks to the several Unions be asked to state what alterations have taken place since 1898 in the parochial valuation of special pro- perties within their respective Unions. The report was adopted without discussion.

CONTAGIOUS DISEASES OF ANIMALS. This committee reported that Mr Thomas Ro- berts had been elected chairman for the current year. A letter from the Board of Agriculture was submitted dawinsr attention to the fact that this county have no regulations in force under Swine Fever 'Order, 1894, regulating the movement of swine either into or within the county, and stating that the checking of the spread of swine fever would more likely be at- tained if the Local authorities of those counties from which swine are usuallv exported to other counties kept effective supervision over the trade in swme both into and within their dis- tricts—and that as regards the latter, the most important points to be observed were (1) Veter- inary inspection and general supervision of swme exposed at a market or sale yard, and (2) tbe strict enforcement of the Swine Fever Order of 1901 as to the cleansing of all premises which are constantly used by different pig-owners and dealers for the temporarv detention of swine. It was resolved that the Chief-Constable be asked to make inouiries and report to the next meeting of the committee as to what places, if any, in the county it would appear desirable that veterinary inspectors should attend to ex- amine swme exposed for sale thereat. Since then a conference had been held, and regulations drawn up to come into force on the 1st of June Mr Thomas Roberts moved the adoption of the report, and Mr Ephraim Wood seconded. Mr J. R. Pritchard. at this stage, ctlled at- tention to the fact that three important com- mittees had b en convened for the same bour on the same day. and protested against it. This kind of thing was ridiculous, and was not the vay the work of the Council should be con- ducted. He also proposed that t.he pamphlet referred to in the rep ;rt be circulated in the countv. Mr C. A. Jones seconded, and suggested that they should be sent to c ich police constable for distribution. Thi? was asreed to. ;:nd, the report adorn 1 This committee reported that Mr J. Menziee hiad be«en unanimously pleated chairman. It was recommended that a county rate nif 7d in the £ be levied during the current financial year, to include intenrueHfate education rate of +(1 in the JB. and at so the expenditure in connection ■wijtih: technical education (equal to a rate of Id 3n the £ ). and tliat a rate of 4d in the £ (viz., 3d in the £ for general county purposes. 1d in the £ for technical education purposes, and 3d in the £ for intermediate education purposes), J bo recommended to be (made at the next meatang of the County Council, to be payable on or be- fore the 13th <Jay of June, 1903. The sub-com- mittee appointed to consider what. arrangements can be madie with the view to provide^ for the borrowing of money required m connection with the cost Off the extt-nsion. of the asylum and other matters, stated that the estimated amounts re- ouired during the current financial vear would be JB1718 15s on April 1st. June 1st. September 1st, December 1st. 1903, and February 1st. 1904, making a total of £ 8593 15s. The treasure!- stated°that at least £ 30,000 would eventually be Tequdred to PlY this county's quota of the cost of the additional acoommodation at the asylum. It was -nesolved that it be recommended that. application be made to the Local Government Board for its sanction to the borrowing of the sum of £30,000 by instalments as .from time to (time may be required (the sum of JBIC.UOO to be now borrowed to meet, estimated calls during the current financial year). It was resolved that insurance companies and others be asked if they are prepared to advance the sum; of £10,.000, and their terms for doing so. The committee having considered the question of the issuing of couinsty stock, resolved that in their opinion that ift will be desirable, at some future time, to issue county stock, and with that view, that a. proviso be inserted in future mortgage deedls. providing for the payment of the balance remaining owins, Bit amy time, on giving six months' notic. The Prudential Assurance Company having, yc.ie time ago, provisiontally agreed to advance, the siuim of JE665 on loan loir the (purpose of naving the "case" of the North Wales Counties Joint Luna.t 11a Asylum Committee in respect of the cost of electric lighting. The company notw state that tiliey find that they cannot advance the money for asylum, purposes in the manner suggested, a.s the power of the County Council do not allow of their borrowing the money as asked. Resolved that the opinion .of counsel be now obtained as to the power of the County Council to borrow money for the- purposes of the cost of the extension, etc., of the asylum. Resolved also that thie Prudential Assurance Company be asked to .supply a. copy of the case submitted by them to counsel, and copy oif his opinion in respect. of the Countv Ciunoil's posi- tion as regards borrowing the money for asylum purposes. Resolved also that the other County Councils in union be asked for information, as to what steps they are taking in the mutter of aisylum loans. Resolved also that the County Council be asked to delegate to the Finiaince Com- mittee to have power to arrange for the borrow- ing of the monev and to affix the seal of the Council to any deed or document relating to such borrowing, the Finance Committee to have power to act by a sub-committee. Resolved also that a meeting of this committee be called as soon as the opinion of counsel and other inform- ation is receiived. The following bills and esti- mates were passed -.8taooing Joint Committee, £ 660 16s 3d, and £ 2015 13s Id Surveyor's Com- mittee, £ 2289 15s. and £ 2700; Technical Edu- cation Committee ."J394 11s lid; general biils, J35140 9s lOd. and salaries, JB660.

MR MENZIES' STATEMENT. In moving the report of the Finance Commit- tee, Alderman J. Menzies said I must ask the indulgence of the Council while I explain to them as briefly as possible the proceedings of the Finance Committee, which, on this occa- sion, are unusually important, and take, up no lass than 36 pages of the printed minutes. I propose to deap with them under three main heads :—1. The expenditure for 10 years ending 31st March, 1903. 2. The estimated receipts and expenditure for the year ending 31st March. 1904. 3. Borrowing money for the asylum and other nurposes. You will find that the total expenditure of the Council in 1894 was £29.978. and for the year 1903 £ 42,446, or an increase of 41 per cent., wh:le in the same period the rates have increased from 3td to 7 £ d. or an increase of 130 per cent on a higher ratable value. The larger percentage increase in the rate compared with the percentage increase in the expenditure arises from the receipts for licenses, probate, Customs and Excise duties, which amount to about £21,000 a year, and which are practically stationary; and in 1894, they represented pro- bably two-thirds of our receipts, whereas last year they were only about one-half. leaving ail increased expenditure to 00 provided by the latepayers. In the surveyor's department, the cost of maintaining urban main roads has in- creased in the 10 Vears from JB1577 to £2404, but it should be £3004, because JB600 of the expense incurred in 1903 was in dispute, and is included in the next year's estimate. With this correction, the advance in 10 years is 80 per ci-nt. The cost in the various urban districts per mile is as follows:—IBangor, has increased per mile from j3158 to £196. or 42 per cent. Bethesda, from JB61 to J3125 or 105 per cent. Carnarvon, from £ 81 to £ 85, or 5 per cent. Conway, from £ 66 to £ 71, or 7 per cent. Cric- cieth. from £-25 to £88, or 252 per cent. Llan- dudno, from £.56 to £132, or 135 per cent, Llanfairfechan, from j350 to J350 (nil); Pen- maenmawr, from JB50 to JB112, or 273 per cent. Pwllheli, from JB45 to J3114, or 153 per cent. Ynyscynhaiarn. from JB55 to £43, or 23 per cent. I now come to the rural main roads. The expenditure in 1894 was J34899. increased to £7009 last year. or 43 per cent. The cost per mile increased during the same period from £23 to £30. or 30 per cent., while the quantity of macadam laid on the roads has increased from 40 to 60 cubits per mile. You will observe that there was a sudden jump in the expenditure in 1898 of about JB1200 upon the introduction of the steam roiler for road repairs, and there was a further large increase in the expenditure in 1900 caused partly by a second steam roller, but it was mainlv due to an increase in the wages of our workmen, estimated at JB900. Additional roads have been added to the list, which ha.s further increased the total expendi- ture fov about JB450, while many important im- provements were carried out during the same period. This increase in the expense of main- taining rural roads was fullv anticipated, and I believe I am right in saying that the intro- duction of steam rolling, increased wages, and other improvements, account for the increased cost in the urban and rural roads, which have 'been greatly improved but now that they are getting in better .condition. I hope we may shortly see a gradual reduction in the cost of road maintenance generally. The exceptionally heavy sum of JB1406 spent last year on county bridges includes the rebuilding of Brvnbeddau Bridge, but about J3800 of this amount is charge- able to capital.account, and will be repaid from the loan account. With regard to the Chief- C'onstabie's department, which is, as you are aware, controlled by the Joint Police Commit- tee. the total expenditure in 1894 was £7697, whereas in 1903 it increased to £12,411, or 61 per cent. Last year's figures, however, in- cludes a sum of £2790, which can only be re- garded as. abnormal expenditure, and is made up as M'ows — Additional police at (Bethesda, £697 borrowed police for Bethesda, £1648; police inquiry re Bethesda..6150; Royal visit. £295; total..62790. Deducting this amount from the £12.411. it leaves the normal expenditure for 1903 of £9621, or am increase off 25 per cent in ten years. The in- crease is accounted for as follows —Increased scale of pay, £600; eight additional constables to the Force JE470 house accoonmodiatiion. £366. The .balance is made up by sundry extra pay- ments, stroh as employment of Solicitors in police prosecutions, telephones and increased expendi- ture in industrial schools and reformatories. With reference to the genera] account. The ex- pen(ses fin 1894 were £ 10,720', increased tb £11.612 in 1903, oir eighlt per cent. This is ac- counted for to the extent of JB664 by an increase in the salaries of medical officers of health, sanitary inspectors, and extra payment in re- spect of pauper lunatics, over which the Council has no control Justices, derks, wa-Iiaries. and county officials, including the two inspectors of weights and measures, accounts for another £-00. There are five other items of expenditure which, when added together, amount to about £300. Technical education appears to have com- menced in 1899, when the gum voted was JB1747, since raised to JB1959 in 1903. There is also am increase of about JB500 in the sum voted to the County Governing Education Body for Inter- mediate Education. There is another small dte- partment which is, I believe, doing good work, the committee of weights and measures. Under the old system, in operation in 1894, the expendi- ture was £112 per annum, which increased to J3242 in 1898, when the present, system *was in- troduced. The expenditure for last year was JB485. I have no means of ascertaining the retoeipits from this department under the old! sys- tem, but rhe receipts from fees for 1903 amounted to £270. leaving a nett expenditure to be pro- vided for from the county funds of £ 215 per 'annum. Tbe estimated expenditure for the year ending 31st iMarch. 1904, Will be found! on the pages preceding those I have already referred to. The total estimated expenditure for the next year is £42,892, which includes a 1d rate for technical education. The committee propose to make this a |d rate as hitherto, which will' brine down the estimlated expenditure to about £42.340. Referring to the estimate in depart- ments, you: will find that in tihe surveyor's depart- ment there is a nett increase in the estimated; expenditure over last year oif JB1009. Thais arises from having to make pro-vision m) ttbe tirnate, not only for the current year's expenses for urban main road's, but also for the isum un- paid on account of 1903, already referred tto. There is an increase under this head alone1 of I JB1596, also an increase .of about JB200 for irn- I provements sanctioned at the Hm,or r Police Station, bu't there is a .reduction of B365 in the iitem of County bridges which I have already ex- plained refers to the Brynibeddau Bridge and £109 reduction in the maintenance of rural main roadis. In jthe CHM-Constable's department, there are 'sundry small iitems of increases under several heads amounting to about ,£500. but the principal items df decrease are JB840 in the fpay of the pclice by rfducinf the force at .Bethesda, £ 1348 for the hire of extra police for 'Bethesda, lifter making provision of £ 300 to cover con- tingencies. and £ 295 for extra poTiee during the Royal v>it. and sundry other small iteme. mak- ing a tottial reduction oif £2946, or a nett de- I crease of £2101. With regard to the general account, there is an .increase. in .sudtv items of estiiima/ted .expenditure of £1336. there is a de- crease in other items amounting to £308, shew- ing a nett increase of £1044. The principal :i'tems off increase are follows —Repayment of loans and interest, £309; prosecutions, JB179 County Oounlcil election expenses, J3300 sundry oltiher items, about £200. On the credit side off tba account, thiere is an increase in the income df abcu/t JB1138, as compared m-'i.th ;tip pre'vicus (year, oif fwhich JB1059 is in respect of .cash ad- vanced out of revenue on account of Brynbetdciau Bridge and Llanfahrfechan lock-up, w hich will, I bope, come back to the revenue account from the loan account. It is, therefore, proposed to make the rate for next year 7d in tihe B, as against 7!d last year. This. I believe, will meet all the ordinary expenditure, and leave a balance of over J35006 to he (carived forward to next year's accounts. There is no prevision in the estimate 'for carrying /the Eduea^'cn. Act into fbrce, nor have the comim.itte anv c ans or reliable data at the moment for f >rmir.g an op- initon as to what additional rate will be neoes- KWy for this purpose. Much, of course, will' depend on the amount of mon-y to be handed over to the Council by the var'ors authoiiltiies when the Act .comes into operation, .and when that has been ascertained, it will be n-eessary to make amended eistriima,tcs on and' from the 30th September next. Borrowing muniy for asylum and other purposes It is prcposed to make application to the Local Governm. ot Board for pow.er to borrow £30,000 by instal- ments of £10.000 to be now borrowed to meet estimated balls for the current financial vear. You will see from the minutes that a cad by the Asylum Committee of J31718 15s became due cn the 1st of April last, and a further call of a like amount is due on the 1st of June next. We have been negotiating with the Prudent hi Insurance Co. for a. loan of J3665 towards the payment of a call by the Asylum Committee for electric lighting. The loan was arranged, and I believe the mortgage deed prepared but. when the document was submitted to counsel by the Prudential Insurance Company, he aiyked his clients that we had no power to borrow money for the 'Denbigh Asylum purposes, and the loan was refused. We* applied to the In- suiance Company for a copy of their counsel's opinion, and it was unofficially submitted to Alderman Brvn Roberts, who wrote, a letter to the clerk confirming the opinion of the counsel for the Insurance Company. The Fnince Com- mittee thereupon sent a copy of counsel's opinicn and Mr 'Bryn Roberts's letter to the .'Local Government Board and the. Lunacy Commis- sioners for their advice. The opinion cf the counsel of the Insurance Company is that the agreement entered into between certain counties in North Wales and of the .subscribers to the asylum was made in 1847 under the provisions of the 'Lunacy Act of 1845. Therefore, the parties between whom the agreement of 1847 was made were chosen by entirely different bodies to the local authorities, now the County Council, who are to provide asylum accommodation under the Lunacy Act of 1890. He says there is no provision in that Act that an agreeifient to unite under the former Lunacy Act is to be deemed an agreement to unite within the Act of 1890, ror there anything to show that local autho- rities under the Act of 1890 are bound by agree- | menta made under the previous Act, nor can they proceed to exercise in relation to such agreement the power given by the Act of 1890 in regard to an agreement to unite under that Act. Accordingly counsel is of opinion that the Joint Visiting Committee of the local authorities would be actng under an agreement by which thev are not bound and' under which they have no power to act, the .remedy being apparently to enter into a fresh agreement under the Act of 1890, which I gather must be between the local authorities only, and not between them and subscribers as well. At. a special meeting, this morning, the following correspondence, which had been received., relating to the asylum ques- tion, was discussed. The Local Government Board wired that they had no power to deter- mine the question raised by the Prudential IAssurance Co. re loan for electric lighting at the asylum, and cannot undertake to express opinion upon it. They can only suggest that the County Council shoufd endeavour to obtain the advance from some other quarters." The Lunacy Commissioners wrote "that thev wers not empowered to give any authoritative opin- ion on the question of law involved. The atten- tion of the Prudential Society's counsel ap- peared not to have been called to the fact that at the time when the Lunacy Act, 1890, came into operation the local1 authorities were already bound by the agreements and other obligations with Tegard to the provision of pauper lunatic asylums, which had been entered into by com- mittees of visitors appointed by justices in Quarter Sessions under previous Lunacy Acts, j t!16 ^rans^eT °f such obligations was made by the Local Government Act, 1888. The Com- missioners would recommend the County Council to refer the Prudential Society's solicitors to .the last-mentioned Act, and they thought that a consideration by counsel of its provisions wouJd remove his objection to the title. With regard to the different point taken by 'Mr Bryn Roberts in his letter, namely .that the Lunacy*Act, 1890, by repealing the Lunatic Asylums Act,' 1853, put an end to the agreement to unite the Com- miss loners, pointed out '(1) That, a revival of the Act of 1845 was necessary to give validity to the agreement since its validity has never been affected by the Act of 1863. The Commissioners did not eee why the validity of this agreement should be affected bv the repeal of the Act of 1853. IfiOfT !epe! J^8ctcfd by Lunacy Act, 1890, were subject to Section 38 of the Interna tation Act, 1889,! and consequently did not. till■+ any r'"h> Pnvik*re> obligation of the liability acquired, accrued, or incurred under any enactment so repealed." If, therefore, the of IfiM +h the ag-reement depended on the Act of 1^3 tbe repeal of that did not affect it. ihe committee recommended that a copy of this be sent to the Prudential Assurance Com- pany. who were to be asked if, in view of these letters, he was 'still of the same mind, and in 1 t mPany again refusing to lend the money that full power be given to the Fmamoe Committee to deal with the matter — Mr Menkes then formally moved the adoption 01 the report. MT C. A. Jones seconded. Mr Issard Davices suggested that tenders for stationery should be included with the printing This was seconded by Mr D. P. Williams and agreed to. agreed to. Mr J. T. Roberts proposed .an amendment to II the minute, giving full powers to the committee to borrow money for asylum purposes, and said tnat he was not aware until a few minutes pre- viously, of the effect of counsel's opinion relative to the five counties in union. It practically amounted to a declaration that the union was dissolved, and in view of that, it behoved them not to jeopardise their position. They ought to I stay their hand** and postpone arranging any loan until they knew where they stood pfe therefore proposed tlr<t that part' of the resolu- tion be deleted, and that power be only given the committee to borrow with respect to the bridge. •Mr W. J. Parry seconded. Mr John Hughes supported. and poÏnterJ out that the opinion expressed in the T/nnacv Com- missioners letter was not a legal opinion." TJptil the matter was settled, it would be well for thorn to stay their hands. Mr D. 'P. IWiTliamsasked what was proposed to he done. Mr J. 1. Roberts explained that for the nro- |Sent they should simply star their hands and sit •'mitil thev knew what their position was. j 'Tn'">ht be that the, union wis dissolved, and *hat thev were in the position of partners at will upon the olrl terms. Mr Menzies ask'd' what t}¡" result wouVl. hI". supposing the counsel for the Prudential said tint he had made a mistake. Mr Jones Morn's thought th^f should that counsel be still of the nm? opinion thev had l better appoint a small committee to look into too matter and take an independent opinion. II the union had automatically ceased, they ought to take advantage, of it., especially since there were subscribers. The asylum would be far better managed if there were no subsciibers. They really -oughji to be fortified by a second ir- de.pendent epin'en, and the Council sh; u?d' be I called together specially to consider tli? muter. Mr D. P. Williams asked if Mr Biyn Robert: would express an opinion. Mr BTYn Roberts said that. he was inclined: to believe that the first part .of the letter cf the Lunacy Commissioners was a sufficient answer to his first objection, but he could not give a dc- finite opinion without looking at the wcrds of the Act. It was very possible that the opinion «f the Prudential counsel might be modified after seeing the letter from the Commissioners. He would suggest that, they should give the Finance [ Committee power to get an independent cpinion, and to get the money if the counsel's opinion was modified. Mr J. T. Roberts said taat< if counsel modified his view and said he was wrong, the committee would not be required, and they would have a status quo. Mr 'Menzies said that same of the instalments were already overdue, and they wanted to negotiate the loan and get the money. Mr Jones Morris observed' that there were no financiers, in London who would advance the money if the PrudentialTffused. The Clerk stated, that the Local Government Board had sanctioned the borrowing. Mr J. Menzies And .other County Councils in North Wales are getting the money without difficulty. Mr D. P. Williams said the question was a very big one. Thev were all in sympathy with Mr J. T. Roberts to get rid of Denbigh. Would it not be advisable to get- independent opinion on the matter. If there was a possible chance of their getting out of the union, they should try. and there was no need to rush for the money. Alderman J. E. Greaves suggested that thev should leave it to the Finance Committee to find out if it was legal to pav the money. The Chairman explained that the Ccuntv Council would not meet- for three months, and in the meantime the money was required. Mr J. T. Ro'berts/Jaid that the question was large enough to warrant the calling'of a specia' meeting. If they had the power to escape now, thev ought to avail themselves of it, and do nothing whatever to hamper sue-h a step. Mr D. P. Williams proposed that the mem- bers of the Asylum Committee be added to the Finance Committee to consider the question Mr J. R. Pritcharcl pointed out that there was no difference of opinion on this matter. They did not want to go on if they could pos- siblyhelpit. Mr J. E. Greaves said that if thev could bor- row the money legally, they were bound to do SO. Mr J. T. Roberts then formally proposed the deletion of the words "the borrowing of mon- eys, and the addition of "in view of the opin- ion expressed b- counsel as to the effect of the Lunacy Act upon the Union, that the Council obtain independent opinion on the whole mat- ter, and that the question of arranging a loan be deferred pending the receipt of this deci- «ion. This was seconded by Mr J. Jones Morris, and adopted. Mr C. A. Jones then moved that tne Asylum Committee be informed that they had tried to get a loan, but that the Prudential Company had raised a. legal question, and that pending the settlement of this the matter had been de- ferred.. This was also agreed to.

GENERAL PURPOSES COMMITTEE. This committee recommended the adbptitmj of resolutions re tuberculous meat and (milk passed by the Shropshire County Council, and! tihe Oumty Councils Association, to the effedt that pending the report of the Royal Commission on tuberculosis, no further powers should be given to local authorities by local Acts to deialTjCvith tuberculous meat or milk, but that legislation pa-ssed at the earliest practicable Opportunity giving greater (powers to the local authorities and magistrates in dealing with the sale of me'atb and mtilk. Attention having been drawn to the removal of small pox p#edtls from Denbigh- frtvre and distant, ■parts of .^wmarvoinsbiire to the Gwyrfai District Council Infectious Hospiitail, the matter having been referred to tihe General Purposes C'xmmitt.ee, a. letter from Dr Fraser, the medical officer of health, wa? read, statling that ait the present time, out of 17 sanitary dils- trijefe ;in tlhie 'oOuntyi, ,wi|tihl 'a population elf 125,649, 14 wiitih a. population of 80,168 are wn- priovide.d' with hospitals for the is<Aalt|ton rit small .pox cases. The Joint Sanitary Committee have trued to pursuude the various aulfhorib'es in the area of the Carnarvonshire POcr-Law Unilons to combine for the purpose of forming a Joint Hospital Board ov ProvikioWal Order, and bv erecting two additional hospitals for samll pox to protect the whiole of the 25 sanitary districts, but the lack of support of the majority of the Councils hais prevented progress in the carrying out of their scheme. The Council which have nio<t. been favourable to the scheme have been asked to re-consider the nuattteT, which; is to be again dealt with at the next meeting of the Joint Sanitary Committee It, was .r&S'dved to urge t.he districts tio combine for the puTpose of providing the necessary aiccommoda/tiiion. The report was adopted, on the motion of Mr Ephraim Wood, seconded bv Mr R Hughes.

THE LIGHT RAILWAY AT n BETTWSVCOED. +ir^rjTWllliamS" fiPerimaohno. proposed a resolu- M" rai'w" from ycn.ed to Oorw.en. deoosif(v?ha,!manu !ia'^thjt 110 T>t)ns had b'6611 jlepositcd. nor had the details ff the scheme thenCm,CeI?d' t}!€^u^tion was whether the Council considered themselves prepared to proceed wIth the matter. Dr 'Williams said that the surveyor was pre- sent to explain. j Alderman Greaves thought that they had better proceed through the regular course. ■ Dr Williams said that the scheme would be deposited in due course, but as they intended to go before the Light Railway Commissioner* as soon as possible, a resolution of the Countv Council would strengthen their hands. The Chairman said it would be far better to :ay the thinar properly before the Council, and I have a resolution in August. Mr E. Davies Jones, on behalf of tir. pro- moters said that the landlords and the local Councils were in favour of the scheme. They onlv asked the Council to strengthen their i hands, and thev could do so if they passed a resolution similar to that passed by Denbigh- shire, without committing themselves in any- way. Mr C. A. Jones then formally proposed that without committing themselves to any definite scheme, the Council was of opinion that a light railwav wou'd be of advantage to the localities J concerned. < This was seconded br 'Dr Williams, and car- ried unanimously..

THE EDUCATION SCHEME. Mr D. P. Williams -proposed the adoption of the report of the Education Committee, fullv reported in our last issue. In the course of his speech, he mid a high compliment to the sur- veyor and the secretary for the work they had accomplished. There were 17,052 scholars in average attendance in the countv. Mr E. R. Davies had not completed his work owing to the slowness of the correspondents of some" of the schools. He had. however, received nine re- turns since the last meeting, but there were ten. more outstanding. If thev took a penny rate per scholar, the rate would amount to 3s per head. They would claim a -rant of 9s 3d per head, which would mean £ 7896 per annum., or equal to a 3d rate. The countv was. therefore, losing between £600 and J3700 ai month, be- cause they had not the new Act in operation, and they felt it was verv desirable that thev should proceed without delav so that they could have it ready. The new Act would require a sixpenny rate. The committee had 'gone very carefullv through the report's, and recommended that no school be taken over unless it wis put. in proper rermir. The .Bishop of .Llandaff bad stated that it was not possible for the Volnn- tarv 'Schools to be taken over with the most friendlv action unless a verv large sum were spent in gettincr substantial repairs. Thev had also received the fo lowing letter from the chap- lain of the Bishop of (Bangor :—"The Bishop de- sires me to write to vou that after earnest con- sideration and consultation with others, he has com° to the conclusion that it would answer no useful purpose to have a meeting such as was proposed in your letter. The Bishop brieves not only that anv local arrmgement outside the Act would prove unworkable but also that. it i" the dutv and true policy of all parties concerned to give the Act as it stands a fair and ho^st trial. Hp looks nnon the Act as an arbitration award made bv Parliament between the con- flicting interests of all classes of schools in the country, and though the managers of Voluntary BchooH have ifoy this award keen compelled to surrender many highly-valued privileges hither- to possessed by them, yet he believes it to be their duty to abide by it faithfully, and loyally endeavour, in co-operation with the new au- tliorities, Lo promote the education of the oiiil- dien in accordance' with its provisions." Pro- c.cding, Mr D. P. Wil'iams said that thw meant that the Bishop declined to meet the Council in conference, though it was proposed by 'Mr .Menzies, and seconded by Mr Issard Da- vies. He had r,o desire to say an3-thing that would embitter the quarrel, but he might say that in the interest of the children and of edu- cation he regretted that an agreement had not been arrived at by which some of the friction would have been avoided. With reference to the terms of the compromise proposed by the jcint authorities, he thought they were exceed- ingly liberal, and' exceeded what he believed the majority of'Nonconformists would have con- ceded had they been consulted. They must now try to make the best of it. They had most diffi- cult work facing them, and lie feared that there was a lot of trouble before them. Dual control would never work smooth-v. It would cause continual friction. It was most unfair to the teachers, and would alwavs be an impediment to the progress of education, and sooner or later it would have to come to an end. Mr Penitir Williams mcved an uimenidmenib to the draft scheme to the: effect- that teachers' itepresentttiittiveis be allowed' to yote. There was no seconder. ùfT Issard Davies igaid that somebody had! re- marked that if all mankind joined together and made friends, it .would make a rope tbat would pull them all! to heaven. In the .same ,wtay iif they excluded thfiis religious bitterness from education,, they would make a Scheme of nialfional educa- tifon that .would be the admiration of the whole World. He was not sorry that (tihe ccnooidait had he,en a failure, and lie, hoped when the .matter rwas settled, it would be seiitled finally. It would never have been finally decided by a ooneordiat. There would be no finality until the vested interests of the Chuitoh had been bouight ()!ut, and until that had been dCnie, hs agreed with /the Bishop that the only honourable cotjjpse they could pursue was to icariy ouit the Act in its entirty. He w!as sorry to .oppose 'the second pant off the scheme. It was only puit in thieiir p'ossesiaiton at the meeting, and tihey oould1 not very well d'isouss it, then at a moment's ndtice. He did not object to the number, 30 for a cota- mittee, but he objected to the v<ry .few seats given in the committee to. experts. The Aldt stated that the Council should have, a. majority, but to say that thtey should, ha-Ve 24 out of 30 •was to give them a vera Jfl»ral .majority. They would not. say that of educatisoify ex- perts on (the Coumcal was as 24 to 30. They litad,al,so, heard a great outcry in favour of haying women on educational authorities, but all they gave under the ischeme wtas one seat to awoman, and this was absurd. He objected t'o the se- cond clause, and he felt very stncmig'.y that elementary teachers should either nominate or recommend members, and that seoonidary teach- ers and the represen.taltives of the univrersitlÎJes should have a voitee according, to the scheme. All the seats were to be filled by the Council. As an amendment to clause 2, he 'wtOTild propose that the committee should consist,of 30 members, including persons of experience in education, and, acquainted wMi the needs of the vaijjous kinJdis of schools. of whom 20 should be members of the Council, andappointoo by the Council, the others to be appointed as hereatfteir laigreed.upcn, of whom, at least, three should be women. The Council nefed not. according to the Act, appoint a majority from among the members of the r 11 Council, and he thought they should at least ili(ave ten from the outside. He belie've'd thut A they only had six they would' regret i!t. Mr R. Conway seconded, but the amendment was loot, only five voting for lit. Mr Issard Davies (also opposed clause 9 of tihe scheme, which provided! for the delegation oif certain powers to a. Joint Board of t'he Weteb Oountfy Council. He said that s-ul-,It a request had never been made beifore. This joinut board would consiist of 36 miembers for South Wales, and 13 for North Wales. Why should they die- centTtalfise in South Wales. The Act made them practically an ;ed'ucation department for the county. They could modify the Code as they liked, and 'he did not see why they should strive to create powers which would onlv hamper them. The'ir South Wales friends weire really leading them byHhe nose to do their Work, for every- thing tended towards the aiggmandi sement iof Cairdiff. When the national museum' question was before the House the other day, Mr William Jones tock it for granted that it would be es- tablished alt Cardiff, and. the Counlcil rwbuild again ,be astked to support Cardiff. Everything went to show that they were siimiply made use of ibv South Wales really for the furbbeaance of Cardiff. North Wales was large enough of an area ito deal with anything they migbit wtant,. He proposed, therefore, that this clause be omliitted. The Act did not empower them to do this. LNir R. Conway again seconded Mr D. ,P. Williams said that they had readly tried to strengthen the position of the Council by talking four-fifth of the appointments in their own hands, but Mr Issard iDavies seemed anx- ious to .wieaken the handis of the Council in that matter. He was trying to do the same thing again. This Was a very permissive clause, ania the comim! ttee could only use it with the consent iof the Oounoil. Perhaps tbtey might never use it, and in any case he did not think the cccn- mittee would use it beyond the six counitiiles of North Wales. Only twta miembers votbed for the omission df clause 9. Mr J. R,. Pritehard then .proposed that the cllauise be limited to three .years, for it would not .be ilight for them to Ibind themselves alto- gather. Mr D. P. Williams said that, this was quite unnecessary. ,Mr Issard Davies then proposed that theatafia be limited to the six counties of North Wales. Mr W. J. Parry seconded. Mr D. P. Williams thouglht it would, be un- wise and unfair to go and break up the soheane whiah had been set up as a model, 'Mr W. J. Parry then withdrew. Mr Issard Dlavie's: What. is the use of d'is- ouissmlg this scheme if we are tied like this. I am sorry Mr W. J. Parry has withdrawn. Why should we have a uniform scheme for the whole of the counties? Mr D. P. Williams said it was very desireable that. tliOTe should be a uniform ischetmei (for the whole of Wales, so tha.t they might work to- gether. The .schema was then adopted. Mr J. R. Pritobard moved another clause to the effect that all the salaries be paid, and the books kept at the head. office for the pur- pose of the simplification of accounts. This was agreed to. Mr D. P. ,Williams. 'referring to the taking over of the Bangor Schools, said that objection had been raised by 'Llandudno. If Bangor had a separate existence they would get 10s 4 £ d per child in average attendance, but if they joined the county would only get 9s 3d. Llandudno separated could only get 5s* 10^d, but by joining the county they would get 9s 3d. Bangor edu- cated 1919 Crhåldneru, whilst (Llandudno onlv educated 854. They might have asked Bangor to give a greater quota, but having regard to the fact that it was a growing town, and that the ratable value would probably increase by leo,ps and bounds, they decided to take over their schools on equal terms. The loans cf Ban- gor were about £ 14.000, and Llandudno £ 14,567, so that it would not be a very much larger burden. He proposed that they should take over the Bangor Schools. Mr J. Menzies seconded, and this was agreed to. 'With regard to the election of secretary for the Education Committee. Mr Issard' Davies thought they should be very careful..Let them .make the appointment in the Council after the committee had' advertised', and not let a com- mittee that sat with closed doors make such an important appointment. Mr J. T. Jones agreed. Mr D. P. Winiams did not wish to press this. but he pointed out that there was urgency in the question. There was no end to the work to be done. Mr W. J. Parry said' that the Council could not appoint until next August. Mr J. Menzies observed that they could make a temporarv appointment. Mr Issard Davies pointed' out that they could let the committee advertise. Mr Jones Morris And recommend the amount to be paid. The appointment of the clerk ard assistant clerk should be delegated to the com- mittee. Mr Issard D'avies held that it was a had pre- cedent. and did not think the work should bg delegated! in this way. Mr D. P. Williams asked that power be g''vcn try the committee to appoint two clerks, and thev would ask for the confirmation of the Coun- cil to the appointment of a secretary. Mr Issard D-nvies then withdrew his objection, and Mr D. P. Williams' suggestion was given as as instruction td> the commiittef. Mr J. T. Roberts called attention to the fact: that the committee sat with closed doors, and said there was a. ieeling that the proceedings should be more public than they were. lie would move thai the meetings be held with open doois, and that reporters be allow. to be present. Mr D. P. Williams said that, they felt that this was a committee of the Council so far, and when the permanent education committee was appointed they would sit with open doors, but not till; then.

MINOR MATTERS. The aldermanic seat oi Mr E. R. Davies was declared vacant. Mr Wright, Carnarvon, and iMr G. E. Jones, Glyn Peris, were appointed new conservators of the Seiont, etc., Fishery Boaid. The conservators representing the Council on the Dony Fishery Board were re..elected. A letter fiom the Local Government Board. enclosing their consent to borrow the sum of JB760 in respect of the re-building of Brynbeddau Bridge, Llanystumdwy, with an intimation that L130 of the loan applied for was not sanctioned owing to the super-structure of the bridges not being satisfactory, was referred to a committee with full powers. A letter from the Board of Trade, requesting the observations of the Council upon the pro- posed construction, by Mr Yale Jones-Parry of a landing stage and' aerial ropeway below high water mark at Bwlch-y-brudyn. Porthdinllaen, was referred1 to the Surveyor's Committee. A letter was also read from the town clerk of Cardiff, asking the Council to reconsider their decision regarding the proposed grant to the National Museum for 'Wales, and decide to re- commend a grant to one museum to be located in a place to be decided by arbitration. Mr Issard' Davies proposed that they should adhere to their former resolution in favour of recommending grants to the museums in the University towns. This kind of thing showed the selfishness of the South Wales people (laughter). Mr D. G. Davies seconded, and this was agreed to. The Board of Agriculture wrote that it was their intention shortly to introduce legislation on the question of sheep worrying. C

-hw.. MEN A I BRIDGE URRAN COUNCIL. TUESDAY.—Mr Cadiwaladr Davies pres'idi ng. RE ELECTED.— A leftter was rea'd from the Local Government Board sanctioning the re- election of Mr R. A. Williams as inspector of nuisance, and Dr Fraiser as medical officer of health. (BILLS.-—The Finance Committee recom- mended that three bills which had been referred to be transferred for consideration in the Council.—It w'as explained that a bill for £1 5s had .been received from- .Mr Erasmus iiug'hes for one week's work in cleaning a house which had been infetcted by small pox.—The Chairman said that Hughes had not been authorised to do t'he woTk.—Councillor Hand: May I 8Jsk whait. is meant by cleaning?—-Tibe Chairman: I do not know except that it may psrpbaps melan white- washing.—Mr Hand explained tlbat vb-go r-eccan- mendation of the committee was that. the hous?. be cleaned and that the occupier should send' in any olia:im to the Council. H)1 suggested that perhaps it would be satisfactory to refer it back itio .committee—Tlie Chairman: There is an- other item in this bill, which iis ain amount to a "woman for cleaning.—D<r R. M. Williams pro- posed that thev refer the bill to commliittee until !t!liey had received a bill from the Gwyrfai Coun- cil.—The Chairman said ttoalt there was an- other bill for theiix oonsidei'ation—potatoes de- stroyed, 3s." The surveyor in this instanoa again had not authorised the destruction oif these potatoes. — Councillor Thomas Roberts How were they destroyed—iby eatinig .them?—Coun- cillor D. H. Davi.es protposedi thait—as the sur- veyor had sa.id thiait some of the bills were in orde.r-t,b,ey be pa;id at onoo.-DT R. M. Wil- liams remarked that it was not- fair to pay soma M the bills and leave the otnars.—In the divi- sion, six voted for Mr D. ii. Da vies's amend- ment, and fo-ut for the original motion, the amendment being carried. CAT>NANT WATER SUPPLY. — A letter was read signed by three ratepayers living ait Cadnant, requesting the Council to take into consideration the advisability of extending the (water main to that part of the towT). It was explained that hitherto their supply of water came from a well1, which they feared would be 'eomttam'inated.-—In reply to the .dhairman,, the surveyor said that be had investigated; the mat- ter, and estimated the cost at albout £ 75.— [ Councillor Owen Hughes proposed that the mat- teT be lett for twelve months.—Councillor J. Davies Jones secondled, on the understanding that the propositdotn should also mnt'aiin a rider to the effect that a reply be sent the rate- payers concerned that the Council were in <sym- ipathy With their deisire.—This was carried. PROTEST.—Upon the clerk 'stating that two gentlemen, had been appointed on ;the Anglesey Smlallipox Scheme Committee, Councillor WTalter Jones protested a.gainst the action of the County Council in electing representatives fbr Menai IBridige. He believed, that thie gentlemen ap- pointed by the County Council did not represent the Council in any particular.—The Chairman siaad that they had no rigfot to do it at all.-The Clerk explained tihat they represented the .dis- trict, and not th e Council.—Cou n ii lor Hand supported Mr Walter Jones's protest.—Dr R. M. Williams observed that thie Countv Council bad' taken the .miatteir from the local authority.— Councillor J. Davies Jones thought that they tdouildi do more than protest against the action of the County Council.—The Clerk explained' 'that the County Council had already elected a committee to deal with the matter.—Councillor George Hand remarked' that tihe County Council bad gone to the .trouble of electing gentlemicdi who did not represent Menaii Bridge at all.— The CihaArtnan Do -you propose sending the pro- test to the County Council ?—iMr Walter Jcneis 'No.—Mr J. Da vile s Jones proposed1 that the protest be sent to the County Oounoil.—Dr R. M. Williams said that. lie could not, see what, 'good would result now.-It was ultimately aln- animously resolved that the protest be sent to the clerk of the County Council, Mr Owen H uighieis remarking tliiat they only protested afgainst the representatives, and not against the persons. APPOINTMENTS OF INSPECTORS OF HACKNEY CARRIAGES. &c.~Mr D. H. Da- vies proposed (1) thalt the piermaster be aippcjnted iinijpector of boats without any additional re- muneration (2) that the local "police officer be appointed inspector of hackner carriages amd! pleasure grounds. Mr Davies sand that with1 Tegard to the first resolution, he considered the pieTtmaster would be the proper person to under- take these duties. He was always on the spot, and, the extra, dirties, which the adoption of tlie resolution would impose upon him, would not, in any way, interfere witlh. 'hiiim in the dliisdharge of his duties as pier andharbo-urmsfer. In fact. ih/e extra work would be so insignficant that he ('Mr Davies) did not consider it ouigiht to1 carry with it any additifional remuneration. The clerical work in connection with the issue of licenses was .made by the clerk. and the collec- tion oif the licenses wa's made bv the rate 001- JetdtoT, so that what would remain foT the p:er- imaster to do, under this oppoMitment, -would be simply to exercise a supervision over the boat- men—to see thiat only tibose holding a license under the Council do ply their boats for hire, and aliso to see th at boats are not over loaded. With regard to the second resolution, there was 'absolutely no objection to the poliloe officer ae- iOOptiing the appodnitimenit, and he was willing to dio ao. His remarks as to clerical w ork, etc. he 'said, applied to tbi's resolution as well: so that all the officer would have to db would be to report to the Council if he found' amy person plying his car for hire, and not hold- ing a- license utader the 'Council, or any person 1 infringing the bye-laws as to overloading or any person damaging the property of the Council. As to efficiency he had. no doubt if these re- solutions were adopt ed that the duties would be 'for more effectively discharged. As to economy, the appointments at. present cost the ratepayers £ 13 a year. If tlie resolutions we/re adapted tie sta.ted tihat the^v Would! only cost £ 3. thu« the appointments wt. present oolft, the ratepayers £ 13 a year. If the resolutions were. adopted, he stated tihat therv would! only cost JB5 tllu,4 effecting a saving of JB10 a yeaT.—.After a brief drascussSloin., the Council deoidekl1 to bring the matter forward again at a specif meeting to be held next Tueeday. f

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THE PENRRYN bTRIFE. THE WEEKLY MASS MEETING. The annual weekly mass meeting -held on Saturday night was presided over by .Mir Henry Jones, who said that they ought to be glad that a gentleman of Mr Asquith's 'standing had taken. their case up in Parliament. Mr Jones con- demned Mr Gerald Balfour and Mr Bromley Davenport's remarks, and observed that it was high time for a new Government to come into power. 'Mr 'Lloyd-George spoke well at the Queen's Hall meeting. There was another meet- ing to be held for the purpose of effecting a settlement. Let th-tm all be faithful to eacll other. Mr William Thomas, Braich, said that what was said' in the House of Commons that the committee had asked for three months' holidays was anything but true. Mr W. H. Williams said that the most-.serious thing that those who were working in the quarry had yet- done was to appeal to the Board of Trade not to interfere in such an important dispute. Mr Thomas Owen, Bodforris, also briefly spoke. 'LORD BURGHCL'EtRE'S VIEWS. Lord Burghelere, who was tbe principal' speaker at a large Liberal meeting at Kidder- minster on Wednesday night, referred to matters which caused dissension in the Liberal ranks. It, had been said that the labour representatives presented difficulties. If proof were wanted of the bonds which united Liberalism and labour, ha would instance the Penrhyn debate which had lately taken place. He heartily a.greed with the "^pressure which Liberals had brought upon the Government, to use their undoubted power of conciliation in this unhappy affair. He was not a Socialist nor an enemy of landlords, and! he had little doubt that the encouragement such as the Government gave by their attitude to the Penrhyn system tended to the advancement of socialist doctrines an1Î the expropriation of land- lords. He thought the labour party generally might well note that the Tories to a man had voted in favou^of Lord Penrhyn and incidentally against Trade Unions.

Mr W. Harris, of the Brecon Memorial Col- l^g^; has accepted an invitation to become the minister of the Congregational Church, Welsh- pool.

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A QUESTION OF COMPENSATION. With regard to a claim made for compensa- tion. by Mr (R. ¡Roberts, Pwllheli, it was re- solved that a «mall committee be appointed to consider the question, with full powers to sett'e or to defend the action, if so advised. The report was then adopted.

Speaking in the House of Commons, on Mon- day. in opposition to the Irish Land Bill, Mr Coghill claimed the votes of the party of econ- omy in onnosition to this bill —J not onlv the Fourth party, but the (Labour party and the Liberal Imperialists. The Liberal Imperialists had written Home Rule off "the slate," but they would have to rewrite Home Rule even if they had to go to Lord Penrhvn to borrow a slate for the purpose. The remark aroused much merrimenfe