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Denbighshire County Council, THE ANNUAL MEETING. COLWYN BAY'S DEMAND FOR INCREASED REPRESENTATION. EFFORT TO SECURE TWO ALDERMEN. THE COUNCIL'S CONTROL OF EDUCATION. A fresh chapter in the history of local govern- z! ment in Denbighshire was opened at the an- nual meeting of the County Goimoil, on Friday, at Wrexham. There was a very good attendance of Aldermen and Councillors, a notable absentee being the retiring Vice-Chairman, Colonel Corn- wall;is-West, of Rurhtin Casitle. Some 'of the members had to travel a long distance in order to attend the meeting, and their fidelity to duty was another illustration of :the sacrifices so readily made by the men who .seek to promote by their voluntary service the good of the com- munity ait large. For instance, the Rev Rawson Williams, who resides near Bettws-y-Coed, and the Llanxwst members had to face a pretty for- midable railway journey before even getting on to the Coast l'inte at Llandudno Junction. One of the rural members residing between Llanfair- talhaiarn and Llangerniiew had to journey eight miles by road in -order to join the train at Aber. gele station. The Colwyn Bay and Glan Con- way members were there to la man, as also were the Abergele representatives, and a fairly good muster of members whiled away the .time of waiting at Cheater .station, for the Wrexham train. When they arrived at their destination they discovered, mat a number of Liberal stal- warts, like Mr D. O. Williams, of Old Colwyn, had stayed in the town overnight, having been summoned to attend.the "caucus" meeting which always precedes the Council's annual meeting. These assemblies, of course, are held in private, but it is generally understood that they are called for the pUllpse of deciding upon united action in filling the chair, the vice-chair, and the vacancies on the :al,dermanic bench. The newcomers made inquiries as to what had trans- pired, and found that it had been decided to follow :the custom of re-electing the Chairman, for a second year of office, and to place Mr A. O. Evans, ,the well-known Denbigh soll-citoir, in the vice-chair. It was also indicated that the Liberals would not vote for the re-election as Aldermen of Mr O. Isigoed Jones (Liberal), Llanrwst, Mr Thomas Williams (Conservative), Denbigh, and Mr William Jones, Llannefydd (Conservative), and that they would nominate, amongst others, the Rev Thois. Lloyd (Liberal), Colwyn Bay, and Mr W.J. Williams. (Liberal), Llanrwst. There was, a feeling amongst the Col. wyn Bay and, Glan Conway members: that whilst the nomination of the Rev Thomas Lloyd should be I supported, an effort ,should also be made to secure the election of the Rev Thomas Parry, J.P., as a second Alderman for Colwyn Bay. At the Council meeting the re-election of Mr Edward Roberts as Chéliirman was proposed by Mr W. J. Williams, of Llanrwst, and .seconded by such a leading Conservative as Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, and the election was unani- mous. In returning thanks, the Chairman made a curious, isliip. "I am glad," he said, in his own urbane way, "I am glad to see so. many new faces here to-day"—apparently not real-using that this was a somewhat left-handed, compliment to his late colleagues who had been defeated at the -polls. Then Mr Roberts went on to 'say that 17 new members had been "added" to -the Council, which could hardly be quite correct, seeing that the Council was exactly the same size after the election as before. There was, of course, a little laughter at the Chairman's expense, but at the same itime it was the universal feeling that in Mr Roberts as Chairman they had the right man in the right place. The election of Mr A. O. Evans, who although a young man is a veter- an in the public .service, was also unchallenged and unanimous. There was a ripple of excite- ment When the Councillors were called upon to elect the eight Aldermen, and Mr Mac Nicoll adroitly got in a little .speech which was quite out of order. In this he advocated Colwyn Bay's claims to two Aldermeni, and invited the meeting to vote for both the Rev Thomas Lloyd and, the Rev Thomas Parry, at the same time putting in a good word for two old Conser- vative members, Mr W. E. Samuel, of Wrexham, and Mr William Jones, of Llannefydd. The voting showed that the 'majority of the Liberals adhered strictly to the party nominees, but in face of this ten votes were cast for Mr Parry and one for Mr Iisgoed Jones. The election of Committees was a tedious business. As is the case in every other county, the Denbighshire Council endeavours to lighten this labourious work by inviting a Selection Committee to draft a list of Commilttee members, and to bring up ,the list at the annual meeting to be voted upon. The work on this occasion fell upon Mr Edward Roberts, Sir W. -W. Wynn, Messrs Christmas Jones, John Roberts, O. Isgoed Jones, Bennett Jonas'. J. M. Porter, J. Wilcoxon, W. G. Dodd, 'and Colonel West. It is, of course, open for the meeting to accept or reject any member sug- gested for any Committee, and the list^ was now gone through very carefully. Mr W. J. Wil- liams, of Llanrwst. had been proposed- for the Assessment Committee, but he withdrew his name in favour of a Llanrw.srt colleague, Mr J. R. Williams. The name of 'Mr Thomas Wil- liams, Denbigh, on the Asylum Committee was removed, and that of Mr J. T. Millward, Aber- gele, put in its place. Both Mr D. O. Williams ■and''Mr D. Mac Nicoll desired to be released from the Education Committee, and their places were taken by the Rev Thomas Lloyd and Mr J. R. Williams. The name of Mr Isgoed Jones was included by the Selection Committee, but was now replaced by that of Mr J. C. Rowland. On discussion of the composition of the Finance Committee, the place of Mr Isgoed Jones was given to Mr J. D. Jones, of Bodoryn, Abergele, and the isame gentleman',9 place on the Police Committee was assigned to Mr W. J. Williams. Mr McFarlane, of Llanrwst, was suggested by the Selection Committee for one of the seats on the Conway Board of Conservators, but in his place Mr Edward Mills, of the same town, wa,s chosen. As our readers are no doubt aware, the County Council is the Local Education Auth- ority under the Act of 1902, but it may delegate its powers to an Education, Committee, which means that the work of this Committee will not come up for -revision by the Council—in other words, the Council relinquishes its control over eduoaitiona.1 administraitiion. It has been the practice to so delegate these powers for twelve momths at a time, but Mr George Bevan. of Co.L wyn Bay, was able to carry his first amendment as a Co-unity Councillor, which provides that the powers, shall be delegated, only until August next, when the Council will have to reconsider the question. As Mr Mac Nicoll was the first member to speak at the meeting, so also was be the last. He was istriotly in order this time, and was able to render a service to the farmers I of the county with regard to the Orders issued by the Board of Agriculture. The Meeting AN ALDERMAN FOR COLWYN BAY. CHAIRMAN'S WELCOME TO THE NEW MEMBERS. The annual meeting of the Denbighshire County Council was held in the County Hall, Wrexham,, on Friday, commencing at noom. Mr Edward Roberts, of Brymbo, the retiring Chairman, presided at the outset, and there were also present Sir Watkin Williams Wynin, Bart., C.B., Sir Foster Cunliffe, Bant., Dr. David Lloyd,, Dr. J. C. Davies, Dr. J. M. Hughes (Ruthin), Messrs. Gomer Roberts, Evan Roberts, Griffith Jones, A. O. Evans, J. A. Chadwick, John Allen, John Hughes, Tom Owen (LIanfadrtalh aiarn), Richard Myddleton, D. Mac Nicoll, J. Stephen Jones, J. M. Porter, D. O. Williams, Edward Allen, George Bevan, Robert Jones (Llanarmoni), Edward Llugheis, F. A. Sturge, E. Lloyd Jonesl, W. E. Samuel, J. Wilcoxoin, Christmais Tones., J. R. Williams-, J. D. Jones (Abergele), Bennett Jones.. Henry Wil- liams, W. J. Williams (Llanrwst), E. W. Thomas, J. T. Millward,, Rev. H. Rawison Wil- liams (Dettws-y-Coed), J. A. Harrop, John Ro- berts (Henllan), Boaz Jones, E. Seymour Jones-, Hugh Hughes, Godfrey Fitzhugh, Robert Elli.s, W. G. Dodd, R. Myddleton, Griffith Jones, R. H. Storey, T. Evans, D. Edwards, Trevor Lloyd Jones, R. A. Jones, Simon Jones Edward Wil- liams. Bennett Jones, John R. Williams (Llan- rwst), John D. Jones,, (Cysiulog) together with the Clerk of the Peace (Mr W. R. Evans), and the Deputy Clerk (Mr John Roberts). The Clerk submitted the returns of the elec- tions of members to represent the 51 electoral divisionis of the county. In addition! to 51 members the Council in- cludes 17 Aldtermen. UNABLE TO ATTEND. Letters of apology for inability to attend were read from Mr J. C. Rowland, Colonel Mainwar. ing, Colonel Cornwaliis-West, Mr Noah Price, Mr Thomas Jones, Mr Jonathan Roberts and others. THE CHAIRMAN. Mr W. J. Williams. (Llanrwsit), when, it was announced that ;the next business was the elec- tion of Chairman, rose to propose the re-election of Mr Edward- Roberts for the ensruing year. Those members who had attended the meetings during the last three yearsi, and especially for the past twelve monthisi. were well acquainted with, Mr Roberts's qualificatio-nis for the post. For the information of the new members it might be said that Mr Roberts, during his occu- pancy of the chair, bad shown all those busi- nesslike qualities and the tact and fairness- which essentially went to the making of a successful chairman- and one acceptable to all sections of the Council. If any guarantee for the future were required, he had no. hesitation, in saying that with Mr Roberts in the chair the hono<ur of the Council and the dignity of the chair were in perfectly safe keeping in the hands of Mr Ro- berts. (Applause.) Sir Watkin Williams Wynn seconded the mo. t-ian, and cordially agreed with the remarks made by Mr W. J. Williams. He did not think they had any cause of any sort to complain of the way in which Mr Roberts had occupied the chair during his first year of office. The Clerk asked whether there was any amendment, and none being- forthcoming, put the motion to the vote. It was unanimously carried. The Chairman, on resuming his place, said he thanked the Council for the renewal of con- fidence implied by their action in electing him unanimously—he laid great emphasis on the fact that they had elected him unanliiDJouslly-as Chairman of ,the Council for the -ensuing year. He also thanked- Mr Williams and Sir Watkin, for the kind remarks they made in proposing and seconding the resolution. He felt that he owed a debt of gratitude to the members of the old Council for the valuable assistance they had rendered to him in fulfilling his duties in the chair. He was gIadJto see so many new faces there that day. He believed that out of a total of 51 members they had 17 new,me:mbers-exact- ly one-third of the Council-and he trusted that they would unite with the old members in carrying ouit the business of the Council united- ly and harmoniously. He looked forward with confidence to receiving from the Council their induLgence and assistance in the coming year. (Applause.) THE VICE-CHAIRMAN. Mr John Roberts (Henllan) said he would pro- pose for the vice-chair a gentleman whose name, he felt sure, would 'meet with general accept- ance. He referred to Mr A. O. Evans, of Den- bigh, a gentleman who had had a-long experi- ence of public work. He had been a member of that County Council for nine years, Mayor of Denbigh for two years, a Cha rman of the Main Roads Committee for a similar period, and has great experience and his legal knowledge would be of great assistance to him should he ever be called upon-to take the Chairman's place. Also, he spoke Welsh. There were several members who could not express themselves very eloquent- Iv in English, and it would be of great assist- ance to them if the occupant of the chair under, stood the Welsh language, (Hear, hear.) Dr. J. C. DaI vies seconded the motion, which was unanimously carried. Mr A. O. EvanE. took his, seat at the side of the Chairman, and returned thanks for his unanimous election. It was an honour to which he did not think he was' entitled., but s'lnce it was his friends' wish he would make no apology for accepting it. (Hear, hear.) THE CHOICE OF ALDERMEN. The next business, was the ,election of eight Aldermen. The retiring Aldermel1 were named on the agenda as follows — Mr J. A. Harrop, Moss, near Wrexham. Mr Arthur E. Evans, Bro.nwylfa Wrexham. Mr O. Isgoed Jones, Plas-yn-Dre, Llanrwist. Mr William Griffith, London House, Llanfair- talhaiarn. Mr Thomas Williams, Llewesog, Denbigh. Mr James Fraser, Queen-street, Wrexham. Mr Benjamin Harrison, Coedpoeth, Wrexham. Mx William Jones, Penporchell, Llannefydd, Trefnant. It will be seen that four of the retiring Alder- ,men belonged to East Denbighshire and the other four to West Denbighshire. Nomination papers to be filled -up by the mem- bers present (except the occupants of the Alder- manic Bench) were distributed Mr D. 'Mac Niooll immediately rose and, hav. ing thanked the Chairman for the welcome he had extended to the new members, asked whether he would be in order in making a few remarks on the election of Aldermen. "In the .part of the county I come from," the speaker proceeded, "there -is a feeling that that portion of Denbigh- shire has been neglected Mj John Roberts (Henllan) rose to ask whether Mr Mac Nicoll was in order. The Chairirnan: The Aldermen are not pro- posed and seconded individually, but each mem- ber has 'a paper on which to nominate eight Al- dermen. I hardly think it is entirely in order for Mr Mac Nicoll to discuss -this matter now. Mr Mac Nicoll resumed his seat. The Chairman At the siame, time, I have no objection, if Mr Mac Nicoll has any remarks to make on this subject, for him to address you now. Mr Mac Nicoll .said he would be very brief. It would be observed that the eight Aldermen were equally divided between the two divisions of the county. Now, Wrexham, with a popula- tion of 14,000 and a rateable value of I"¡S,ooo, had five Aldermen, four of whom were now re- tiring, whilst Colwyn Bav with a rateable value of £74;000 and a population of 11,000 had no Aldermen. He suggested, to equalise matters so far as representation on the Aldermamdc Bench was concerned, that they should all vote for two Aldermen for Colwyn Bay-the Rev Thomas Parry,an,d the Rev Thomas Lloyd. The Council included 34 Progressives and 15 Reformers, and if the small minority could be represented on the Aldermanic Bench it would give them more in- terest in the proceedings of the Council. The minority of Reformers!.were of a friendly ddsposi. tion, and their criticisms would be marked by the same sincerity as those of the great majority, and under the circumstances he would,, the Coun- cil wouldi ,see their way to include among the East Denbighshire Aldermen Mr W. E. Samuel, of Wrexham, and Mr William Jones, of Pen- porchell. 'Mr J. Wilcoxon (Bersham) declared that Mr Mac Nicoll's figures wemeall wrong. The; popula- tion of the Wrexham district, from which the Aldermen he had .referred to were drawn, was betweleln 60,000 and 70 000, and the rateable value was in proportion. Mr Mac Nicoll: I am taking Wrexham town. Mr. Willoxoo But these are not all from Wrexham. The Chairman: Well, gentlemen, you have heard Mr Mac Nicoll's suggestion. VERY COMPLIMENTARY." Sir W. W. Wynn, chewing the end of a short pencil, and evidently labouring under great per. plexity, sa:d he was in great difficulty in filling up the column in the nomination paper beaded "desoriptiOln." "I don't know all of them," de- clared the baronet. "I shall put in 'gentleman.' Will that be sufficient?" The Chairman: Yes, quite sufficient, and very complimentary. (Laughter, and applause.) A very long time wa,s taken up with the fill- ing of the papers, and Sir Watkin observed that there would have been less trouble if they had proposed and seconded the Aldermen verbally instead of in writing. THE CHOSEN EIGHT. The nomination papers having been returned, the Clerk read out how each member had voted, and! afterwards the Deputy Clerk submitted the results, which were as follows:- liLECTED, Mr. Edward Hughes, 30 Mr. j. A. Harrop 45 Rev. Thus. Lloyd 42 Mr. W. J. Williams .30 Mr. D. W, Roberts 30 Mr. Thos. Fraser 43 Mr. William Griffith 32 Mr. John Roberts 33 NON-ELECTED. Rev. Thomas Parry 10 Mr. William Jones 15 Mr. W. E. Samuel 15 Mr. A. E, Evans 15 Mr. F-dwat-d Roberts. 13 Mr. Isgoed Jones 1 Mr. John Allen 2 The Chairman announced that the first eight had been elected, and that ais, Mr John Roberts, Mr W. J. Williams and Mr Edward Hughes were members there would by-elections at Henllan. Llanrwst and Stan-sty. CLERK OF WORKS. Mr Simon Williams stated that at the close of the meeting there would be a special meeting of the Finance Committee- to appoint a clerk of works inconnredion with the erection' of County Offices at Ruthin. There were 96 candidates for the posit, and three of them had been selected to appear before the Committee before the final appointment was made. The meeting of the Finance Committee was, accordingly held, and after the three applicants had 'been interviewed1 the appointment was unanimously given to Mr Pierce Williams. THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE AND ITS POWERS. Mr Harrop proposed that the Education Com- mittee suggested by the Selection Committee be elected with the following exceiptio,ns:-Mx J. C. Rowland to take the place of Mr. Isgoed Jones; Mr J. D. Jones (Cysulog) in the place of Mr Boaz Jones; Rev Thomas Lloyd in the place of Mr D. O. Williams; Mr J. R. Wil- liams in the place of Mr D. Mac Niicoll; Sir Foster Cunliffe in place of Mr Godfrey Fitz- hugh; Mr R. A. Jones (Ruabon) to take the place of Mr E. Lloyd Jones. The Committee was unanimously adopted, with thelsealterations, as, foll,o,wsb' Messrs W. G. Dodd, Simon Jones, J. C. Rowland, Colonel C. S. Mainwarinig, Messrs J. D. Jones (Cysulog), BemlUiett Jones, W. E. Samuel, William Griffith, Rev Thomas Lloyd, Messrs E. W. Thomas, Christmas Jones, Edward Roberts, J. Wilcoxonl, W. J. Williams, Dr. J. M. Hughes, Messrs George Cromar, F. A. Sturge, R. A. Jones., Sir F. Cunliffe, Messrs Edward Allen, John Roberts., J. R. Williams, J. Stephen Jones, Hugh Hughes, John Allen, Gomer Roberts, E. R. Parry, Mrs. Parker Davies, Mrs R. J. Powell, Miss. Gee, Professor J. E. Lloyd, Messrs J. E. Powell, James Darlington, J. Harrison Joines, D. S. Dav. ies, Thomas Bury. Mr W. G. Dodd! explained that every effort ha,d been made, and he believed successfully, to make the Committee as- representative as fol- lows. For instance, be mentioned that Wrex- ham, with 25 schools, had 11 members; Den- bigh district, with 14 schools, 5 members Col- wyn Bay district, with 14 schools, 4 members. If anything, there; was too much representation for Wrexham and Denbigh. Still, it was very difficult to arrange these matters perfectly. The Chairman agreed that the Committee was fairly representative of the whole county. 1 Mr W. G. Dodd raised the question whether the County Council was again, going to delegate its powers to the Education Committee? He held it was, a mistlake to delegate "their powers for too long a period1. One disadvantage of not delegating was that the Council would have to meet at least monthly. On the other hand, he thought the Council should keep a firm hold of the administration of education in the- county and not band over to others the powers which they might exercise better themselves, A member proposed that the powers be dele. gated- for twelve months. Mr E. R. Parry seconded. It would be most inconvenient for the County Council to. meet monthly. In the past the Education Committee had done their work excellently and had1 receiv- ed the absolute confidence of the County Council. Mr Boaz Jones supported. Mr Boaz Jones supported. MR. BEVAN'S FIRST AMENDMENT. Mr George Bevaii (Colwyn Bay) proposed as an amendment that they delegate the powers for three months, which he thought wa's quite long enough. On the -suggestion of the Chairmani, Mr Bevan altered the amendment to read "Until the Au- gust meeting of this Council." Mr W. G. Dodd 'seconded. Sir Watkin Wynn What will be the difference "0 this Council? Mr Dodd said it would be better to have 68 members 'dealing with education than, 34. "I take it," the speaker added, "that it will be quite competent .at the August meeting to move that the powers be die-legated for another three or six months, but, on the other hand, if the Council wlish to. resume'their powers it will be open for them, to do> so." Sir W. W. Wynn: Mr Dodd has had a great deal more than anyorue else to do with it, and Isays that it would be for the benefit of educa- tion for the amendment to be carried. Several Members: "There -is nothing in it" and a voice: "It is only Mr Dodd's modesty The amendment wais carried by 22 votes to 17, and as a substantial motion was unanimously adopted. THE COUNTY SCHOOLS. The appointment of Governors of the County Schools of Ruthin, Llanrwsit. Ruabon. and Aber- gele wais referred to the Education Committee, as also was the app,ointmein,t,of Managers of the Grouped Council School districts of Colwyn Bay, Cerrig-y-Druidiion, Denbigh, Llansilkt, Llan- rwst, Ruabon, Ruthin a>nid Wrexham. The ap- pointment of a representative manager on each of the 71 non-provided schools in thecounty was similarly deferred. THE COMMITTEES. The Committees were chosen as follows: — Assessment Committee (i i members).—Messrs George Cromar, Robert Ellis, Hugh Htutghes, Simon Jones, J. Willcoxon, Sir W. W. Wynn, Messrs Henry Williams, J. R. Williams, J. M. Porter, Evan Roberts, J. Stephen Jones. Asylum Committee (6 mem,beris).-Mes,srs J. A. Ghadwick, J. T. Millward, A. O. Evans, Dr. David Lloyd, Messrs J. M. Porter, John Roberts. County Seal Committee.—Messrs John Hughes, Thomas Jones, Dr. J. M. Hughes. Finance Committee (35 members).—Mir Simon Jones, Sir W. W. Wyinn, Messrs J. T. Millwardi, J. Wilcoxon, Edward Roberts, John Allen, Boaz Jones, W. E. Samuel, George Cromar, Jonathan Griffiths, F. A. Sturge, Evani Roberts, E. Lloyd Jones, D. Edwardls, Trevor Lloyd Jones, J. W. Evans, Colonel C. S. Mainwaring, Messrs God- frey Fitzhugh. J. A. Ghadwick, Thomas Jones', John Roberts, Thomas Jones (Wrexham), Tames Fraser. W. G. Dodd., Christmas Jones, Dr. J. C. Davies, 'Miesls.rs George Bevain, Edward Hughes, T. Evans, D. O. Williams, E. W. Thomas, J. M. Porter, J. D. Jones (Bodoryn, Abergele), D. Mac Nicoll, J. Stephen Jones. Main Roads, Bridges, &c., Committee for the Wrexham District.—The members of the Coun- cil for the Wrexham District, together with the Chairman of the Committee for the Denbigh District. Main Roads, &c., Committee for the Denbigh n:lstrict.- The members of the Council for the Denbigh District, tlogether with the Chairman of the Committee for the Wrexham District. Local Goverlnmenlt, AmotmlelIllts, &c., Com* i-nlt-te,e.-Mesis-iis, John Allen, James Eraser, George Cromar, Thomas Jones (Plas Coch), Christmas Jones, Thomas- Owen, J. Steph011 Jones, E. R. Parry, J. Wilcoxon, Jonathan Griffiths, Simon Jones, David. Edwards, Trevor Lloyd Joines., Dr. J. C. Davies, Messrs Robert Ellis, Henry, Williams, R. H. Story, D. Mac Nicoll. Public Health Committee (17 members).—Col- West, Dr. J. M. Hughes, Messrs Edward Allel", W. J. Williams, George Cromar, Dr. J. C. Dav- i-e-s, Messrs Simon William-s, W. E. Samuel, W. W. Wynn, Dr. Lloyd, M-esisrsi Griffith Jones, J. D. Jones (Cysulog), G. Fitzhugh, 15-enne Jones, R. II. Story, E. R. Parry, Edward Wi lliams. Stamding Joint Police Committee (12 members representing the Couinioil).—Messrs Simon TO,Ilesl Robert Ellis. A. O. Evans, W. J. Williams, J- Wilcoxon, John Roberts, Gomer Roberts. Ed- w: ward Roberts, John Allen,, George Cromar, Christmas Joneis, Boaz Jones. Selection; Committee.—Election deferred clOlse of the Council's year. Unemployed Workmen's Act (Continued on Page 5 ) ==-'=-"=-="
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