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PRESTATYN WATER SUPPLY. IMPORTANT MEETINC OF THE URBAN COUNCIL. PARLIAMENTARY POWERS TO BE SOUGHT FOR PURCHASING THE WORKS. A special meeting of the above Council was held at Stafford Buildings, Prestatyn, on Monday evening, for the purpose of further considering the question of proceeding to obtain Parliamentary powers for the purchasing and taking over of the Water Works. Mr John Jones, J.P., presided, and there were also present Dr W H Griitith, Messrs W H Coward, J B Linnell, Ellis Roberts, John Pritchard, Goronwy () Jones, J E L Jones, Peter Ellis, Thomas Williams, John Hughes (Clerk), and W C Bell (Surveyor). The Clerk reported that a meeting of the Water Supply Committee had been held on August 28th, at which it was reported that he (the Clerk) had interviewed Mr Rowlands as to the steps necessary for the Council to proceed to acquire the Water Works. As the matter had to be placed in hand at once, and it was urgent, the Chairman, at his own expense, with the Clerk, had proceeded to London, where they interviewed Messrs Baker, Lees & The opinion of those gentlemen were placed before the Committee, and the following resolution was thereupon passed :—" That the Council do take the necessary steps for pro- moting a Bill in the next Session of Parliament for acquiring the Dyserth, Meliden, and Prestatyn Water Undertaking; for the con- struction of new reservoir or reservoirs, and other works for improving the water supply of Prestatyn and districts, as defined in the Water Orders Confirmation Act, 1881, relating to Dyserth, Meliden, and Prestatyn water for acquiring additional land and rights for borrowing money for such purposes and for additional powers ith respect to matters relating to the water undertaking, and other purposes." The Chairman formally moved the recom- mendation of tha Committee. Mr J. E. L. Jones seconded. Mr Coward said he had seriously thought over the matter since the last meeting, and he had not overlooked the fact that it was neccssary that Mrs McLaren should have two months' notice of the intention of the locil authority to provide another supply of water. He thought that it would be advisable in this I I is case that they should give notice. If they did enter into a contract with the Parliamentary agents, it should be with an understanding I -n that .jf Mrs McLaren went on improving the works that the Council would be satisfied. lie understood that Mr and Mrs McLaren were at the present time about to consult an engineer with a view to putting the works in proper order. He was aware that no time had to be lost if they were to proceed to Parliament for the next session. Mr Linnell said he had received a letter from Mr McLaren, dated Moscow, 20th August, in which he said that as soon as he returned to England he would get a special engineer to go thoroughly into the question of the water supply of the district, the laying of new mains, &c., so that there would be no further com- plaints about the matter. He would obtain the best advise possible. He expected to return to England on September Oth. He (Mr Linnell) thought that the Council should have some idea of what the cost of the Bill would be before they proceeded with it. He did not think that the Council would care to vote upon the subject unless fairly certain of what it would cost them. He hoped that the Chair- man, or some other member of the Committee, would tell the ratepayers something as to what expense they were likely to incur.. The Chairman said he was most willing to answer any questions on the matter, and had no desire to keep anything back. They were told that an unopposed Bill would cost JEoOO, and in proportion to the opposition the expense would increase. He had to tell the Council that the cost of promoting the Bill and the repayment of capital and in- terest would come out of the money they would receive from the water supply. He believed that a handsome profit could be made. It had been pointed out in Commit- tee that no matter what mains Mrs McLaren might lay she could not, under her present powers, get more than a 4-inch main from the source of supply without going to Parliament for fresh powers, and when she did that the Council would certainly oppose her. It was recognised that a 4-inch main was useless for the present needs of Prestatyn, and how much more useless would it be for the town in 20 or 30 years hence. Mr Linnell She may get another source of supply The Chairmen She can not get another source of supply unless she applies to Parlia- ment. When she does that she will tind us there to oppose her. That will be our oppor- tunity. When the old company at Rhyl went in for powers they were opposed by the Rhyl people, and were compelled to sell. There is no doubt that a local authority should have the water supply in its hands. I need not point out how important it is that we should have a good supply of water, and I believe that we shall have the whole of Prestatyn at our backs when we propose to acquire the water works. It is not right that the water supply of a place like Prestatyn should be in the hands of private people. I do not say a word against Mr or Mrs Me Laren or Mr Linnell. I go in for this thing un something more than personal grounds, and in fighting this battle we must forget everything but the public interest. We have been urged time after time by our Medical Officer of Health to take this step, and we shall be lacking in our duty if we leave this. opportunity slip by. Mr Coward: I agree with you in every word you have said, but are we not by duty or courtesy bound to give Mrs Mac Laren two months' notice ? The Clerk: Nothing of the sort. We have not to give notice when we go in for an Act of Parliament. The Chairman You must bear in mind that Mrs MacLaren had no Act of Parliment. All she has is a Provisional Order. Mr Coward said he felt that the water supply and also the gas service should be in the hands of the public authority of a district. It would never do to allow private individuals to control such things, or they would have a repetition of what was experienced in Liverpool. The Chairman added that he felt that they had arrived at that state of things when they felt that the water supply was critical, and if they allowed that winter to pass without taking steps to improve matters they would be blamed by residents and visitors. They as a Council were bound to take steps to obtain powers to construct new works or the town would be ruined for years. ly- Mr J. E. L. Jones said the matter had been thoroughly thrashed out in committee, and it was felt that they shonld not let slip the golden opportunity of acquiring the works. The water supply was inadequate, and they as Councillors were bound to act oil behalf of the ratepayers with the same business ability as Mrs MacLaren displayed in all that she undertook. The communication received from Mr MacLaren confirmed the views of the Committee that there was urgency in the matter, and therefore the Council should not be behind hand in seizing it. Mr Pri tchard said lie was of the opinion that a better supply of water should be obtained, but the question to be considered was what were the best steps to be taken. He did not know whether the Council were taking the right course or not, as they were well aware that the owners of the water works were away from home, and it seemed as if the Council wore going behind their backs. He thought I that they should hear something from Mrs McLaren before they took such a decided step as was now proposed. It was a very big undertaking, and a matter that should in no way be rushed. The Council should also remember that they were but four years old, and they had had very little time to consider such a big thing, which was bound to be an I expensive undertaking. They should take z;1 more time to consider the question. The Chairman replied that the Council were not moving very rapidly. They were really going to work very slowly at least that was the opinion of the people of Prestatyn. They should not forget that as far back as February, 18U8, they had had letters complaining of the insufficiency of the water supply. They had asked Mrs McLaren to do something with the works, but the reply they received was that she would not sell the undertaking; and if the Council waited another twelve months he believed that they would be in a like position as they were that day. They could not forget that they were there to represent the rate- payers, and he gave every member credit for the best intentions to do all he could to take the right steps, and to move in a direction that would be for the best interests of the people. He urged upon the Council the necessity of r, being firm at that stage. Under the existing circumstances the water supply could not be improved, and if anyone was to get the power to construct the additional works it should be the local authority and not a private individual. He warned the Council that visitors knew only too well the difficulties under which the town suffere i, and unless the local authority secured the water undertaking, and took steps to secure a better supply of water, the town would re- ceive a check that would be difficult to recover from. He placed that matter far above his friendship with Mr and Mrs MacLaren and Mr Linnell, and put all personal and private con- siderations in the back ground (hear, hear). He urged upon them to take a decisive step, which they would, he felt sure, never regret. Mr John Pritchard said he desired not to be misunderstood on that matter. He advised the Council not to rush too rashly, in the fourth or fifth year of its existence, into a matter that required careful consideration. They should take care that they did not jump out of the frying pan into the fire. The Chairman There will be a public meet- ing held under the Borough Funds Act, and the ratepayers will have the right to vote against what we propose. I may tell you also that any single ratepayer has the right to demand that a poll of the people be taken. Besides that, we as a Council have to pass certain resolutions by an absolute majority. Mr Goronwy () Jones did not think it neces- sary that they should then go into the details of the matter in the way they had discussed them in committee. lie was sure that they realised that there was a feeling that the public should have control of gas and water supplies. He also believed that Mr and Mrs MacLaren were advocates of the principle of public control in such matters, but it was only natural that they should object to sell the works when they had them in their hands. The present owners of the water supply could not lay more than a -1-ineh main, and if they or anyone else wanted to increase the water supply they would have to obtain powers. He felt that the Council would be delaying matters for the two months and losing a valuable opportunity if they stop- ped now. In reply to questions as to whether the works would pay after being placed in the hands of the Council, the Chairman said he believed that in other towns a handsome profit was made, and at Egremont the Council were able to give people 4d in the £ off the ordinary rates out of the profits of the works that were purchased at a big price. Mr Linnell Since I have been connected with the concern we have spent the whole of the revenue on the works. We have spent more capital than revenue, and you will always have to spend money on the works. The Chairman All I can say is that you are more anxious to keep hold of a dying concern than T am. I should be sorry to hold fast of a sinking ship, and that is a very good reason why we should purchase and make a better job of it. Dr Griffith said the point that the Council had to consider was this Could Prestatyn exist with the present supply of water ? (hear, hear). He did not think it could. He was also of opinion that the sooner they bought the works the better. It was foolish to suggest that they should wait because they were a young Council. Every year made the works more valuable, as the rateable value of the district improved. It was equally foolish to suggest that people, even though they were millionaires, would be so charitable, and so generous—although he knew a little of genero- sity in Prestatyn—as to refuse to sell a concern that did not pay. Speaking as one who had had to pass examinations in matters concern- ing public health and as one who had had experience of Prestatyn and its water supply, he hoped that the Council would never be so foolish as to let such a splendid opportunity slip by. He had all along urged the following of that course, and while he had perhaps suffered pecuniary loss thereby, he felt that he had nevfr lost his self-respect, and had not failed to discharge his duty to the public. Mr Linnell and himself had each been returned at the top of the poll not to look after personal n terests, but to do their duty to the ratepayers. It did not matter how long the Council had been in power if they saw the necessity for action, and he urged them as a medical man to lose no time. He was certain that the public would support them (applause). Mr Thos Williams observed that at first he had thought that they had better wait until Mrs MacLaren returned in order that matters could be discussed at an interview, but after hearing the views of the Chairman, and what he had been told in London, he fell in readily with the recommendation of the Committee, Every- thing would have to be arranged in a few months, so they had no time to lose. The Chairman said he had forgotten to state that after the Council had given notice of their intention to proceed to Parliament there would be plenty of opportunity given to Mr and Mrs MacLaren to come to terms for the Council to obtain the works by private purchase. It was clearly understood that Mrs MacLaren had told the Council that she would not sell. Mr Coward stated that he was perfectly satisfied that due notice would be given to Mrs MacLaren, and, that being so, he would support the Committee. He felt that it was not so much a question of price as of getting a satisfactory supply of water. Mr Peter Ellis then described the reservoir which supplied the district with water, and urged the Council not to hesitate to go ahead with a view to their obtaining early possession of the works. Mr Ellis Roberts agreed with the suggestion that steps should be at once taken to secure the control of the works. It was a matter of life and death to Prestatyn, and only that evening he had heard people expressing the opinion that it was necessary that steps should be taken. He did not like to go against Mr Linnell, but they as Councillors had to bo business-like, and it was their duty to buy the water works. The Chairman then put the recommendation of the Committee to the Council. All present, with the exception of MrlLinnell, held up their hands in favour of it, and the Chairman observed that as there was no one against it he had to declare that the resolution was carried unanimously. On the proposition of the Chairman, seconded by Mr Coward, it was decided to engage the services of Messrs Baker, Lees it Co. as Parlia- mentary agents, and to instruct them to proceed with the matter at once. Votes of Thanks. Mr J E L Jones proposed a vote of thanks to the Chairman for having done such good work for the Council and paid his own expenses to London. Dr Griffith seconded, and it was carried unanimously. The Chairman said he felt that it was his duty to go to London, but had it not been for the valued services of the Clerk he could have done but very little. The Site of the Fire Engine Station. A letter was read from the I lev Thos. Price with reference to the site of the tire engine sta- tion. The Vicar said he would have no objec- tion to the Council placing two windows in the back of the approved building provided that work was commenced and finished within four months from the sanction of the Local Govern- ment Board being received. He had also to' complain of the continued insults and disres- pect shown to him by the depositing of rubbish on the site he had give to the Council. Mr Coward proposed that the Council take immediate steps to clear away the rubbish and to erect the fire station. The Chairman suggested that it be referred to the Committee. Mr Coward Referred to the Committee I am sick of it being referred. It was decided that the Council apply to the Local Government Board for powers to borrow money for erecting the building. The Chairman said he would oppose the Council on this matter. This closed the proceedings.

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