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THE PROPOSED LAND BILL FOR WALES. The following letter has appeared in The Timet from Col. W<-st, M.P. Sir,—Permit me to point out that the inference to be drawn from the reports m the London Press and from your article on the proposed Welsh Land Hill will lead to the opinion that it is framed entirely on the lines of the Irish Land Bill, and that it is to include the three F's." This is not suo At the conference preceding the public meeting held at Denbigh it was determined by tbe majority present that free sale as understood in the Irish Land Act was to be omitted in the Welsh Hill, the farmers present fully realizing that it hampers an incoming tenant, and that compensation for tenants' improvements should fall exclusively on the landowner, and not to be paid by the incoming tenant. The process-Lfor ascertaining what is a fair rent—viz., by arbi ro- tors, with appeal to tbe County Court Jud<'e-is strictly on the lines of the Agricultural Holdings- Act of 1883, and if the fees to be charged are clearly defined would seem the fairest means of doing justice to both parties. Practically arbit- ration is often resorted to on the larger estates in Whales and works well. The question of how lono- a rent can be fixed by this method was not dis- cussed but I am inclined to think three years preferable to the seven years suggested in the draft Bill, in the interest quite as much of a tenant as of a landlord. The farmers of Wales, as a body are, I believe, men whose wishes are limited to what is strictly fair and equitable. They consider that if a man farms well and pays his rent punctually (which rent may be periodi- r' li cally fixed by an outside authority if he fail. to come to terms with his landlord privately) he should not run the slightest risk of losmghis farm, and that he should be certain at the expira- tion of his tenancy of being fully compensated for any improvements permanently affecting the letting value of the farm which he may have carried out. The other side has, of course, to be considered, and it will be requisite to introduce a stringent clause respecting deterioration and waste-a con- dition of things, I regr.-t to say. liable frcm time to time to occur, and extremely difficult for a landlord to deal with. I am well aware of the very strong prejudice there is against interference of any kind with freedom of contract between the owner and occupier of land. and I acknowledge that, were practicable it is in every way preferable, especially as the Welshman is, as a. rule, quite able to take care of himself- but where any difference arises it is surely not a very revolu- tionary proposal too ask that an impartial authority may be empowered to settle the matter in dis- pute, a ii (I I look- forwaid to some modification of opinion on the part of many Welsh landowners favourable to legislation of the character under discussion. In many quarters it has been con- demned before it has been examined. All that is asked is to make the position of the tenant farmer secure without disturbing the good rela- tions which have hitherto characterised and, I believe, still subsist between owners and occupiers in nine-tenths of the estates in the Principality. —I am, your obedient servant, W. COIŒWALLIS WEST. Ruthin Castle, Nov. 2.
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ST. ASAPH. ST, ASAPH CATBEDBAL SERVICES. 21st Sunday after Trinity, November 11th, 1886 Morning at 11 Service, lioyce in C; Anthem, ''The Wilderness" fGossj. Evening at 3.15: Service, Hopkil's in F; Anthem, "God is our hope and btreJJgth" (Greene), Evening at 0.15; Chants, Hymns. In residence, tuu Lo:d Bishop, the Very Rev, the Ueau, the Veti. Archdeacon Thomas; Organist, K. A. Atkins, bsq.—N.B. Choral services are held at the Cathedral on Thursdays at 11.30, and on Satur- days at 31:) f In.,
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BENSDOHP'S Cocoa ca.n be obtained at the Star Shop, Denbigh. --Advt. HOI.LOWAV'S PILLS AND OINTMENT.—The combined ill effeels of over-crowding, sedentary occupations aud monotony ot life are only too well known to those who have to pass the best part of their lives labouring in factories and crowded workrooms. The compul- sory confinement weakens the general health and induces chronic constipation, indigestion, and various forms of shin, diseases. Holloway's remedies are of priceless value to persons of this class, for they cau be used without entailing loss of work, being purely vegetable in their composition, and consequently act without harshness on the Ulostddlcate system. The experience of more than torty years proves that no means surpass Holleway's remedies tor curing bad legs, bad breasts, piles, and wounds of all kinds. • i
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yrtom a ry .-I I F MEN OF HARK. RT nON. JCSEPII CIIAJIBERLAJN, M.P. f rxTB his comparatively recent first appearRncc in the arena of national politics, j\lr- Joseph Chamberlain has boon conspicuously a man of —a foremost factor of 1 ho party of progress. It. was or.lv in 1^ that he, then forty years okl, made his debut at St. Stephen's, with t-ho roti'it.iii'.n of hein;r a Kadicai <'f the Kadic-ds. IV..iir years lat< r no was a (.<abi,j6t Minister. .HH string,' personality and high ability WI-eel hut at once over the headsof many who had .ji-ms-ti £ ivy at. Wostudoslrr: and quickly he a. leader ot Lib. r;i; sm second only in i :uence to Mr. Gladstone himself. One of' the Mo.-t forcible public speakers of his day, he has a 0 >L'i'.riauding and withal singularly youthful presence, His earnest look, ch ar-cut features, > :vf>r-present eye-ght^s, and the costly or- chid which generally graces his button hole, are familiar to a'l who have sort of pretension to acquaintance with the celebrities of the land. sub j.ir.ttioti to the caricaturists of the comic press eiiito as often as Mr. Gladstone and the hitn Lrd !>aconsfield in corresponding periods ot their public cart ers, ^och a man, no nia'ter what the opinion*' be h«»h.<, must of necessity bo I I i f tf-, d. 183(5 will be a memorable one in P.ii'ish political history because of the Irish Ho;ne Rule agitation, and no name will figure in the ro -ord more prominently than that, of Air. Joseph Chamberlain. His stnrdv inde| i ndi tieo ih maintaining his Own cr,tivictil)ll" i- success as signal as remarW.!«» tho immense weight of his v.. erati |. :• r':i personal power will long be remember, o fro diiiered in important particulars from th. i.nid taken by the Liberal chief, and hettin.if asioo *11 the exigencies of party, offered a most uncom- promising opposition to pto; •< which he could not. accept. At irreconeilablo variance with the Whig wing of Libera lisrn on many important points, he yet wa- found stand- ing shoulder to shoulder with h1;e Lord Jlartington and Mr. Goschen in r .sito a :v ilii-v which he adjudged unvisi., fvill no one doubted Mr. Chamberlain's fidelity t.o tho Iladi- :l i ,in he preached and professed." The Conser- who saw with f-atiaiaction his attitude )•• ..nee agreeing wit. < their own, c.juld not hope Iii,it in any other matter. The more the Liberals this fe-,i,ricss r«-l'<'? >ni'i' wbo was refusing t,<> follow wlii- her iii!tcr woiil(l all(i exert, ID9 hims. If to th" utmost to overthrow the scheme 0 eni(i championed by the Ministry from whose ranks he hml hr.ila u away. It was a strange sh'ht to seo a [lion 1111 'cd Ra.oica.l of t::e calibre of Mr. O.iamb. 1 iio fumWnng the most deadly oppo- sition^) a hill introduced into Parliament bv a Tyhi-rnJ Goverumpnt, 1 he Tli'l for the v'tter Gov riimeiit "f Ireland was hotly resisted hv Collar,-tutiorialnts and VVhigs, but the most damaging speech against it came from Mr. Cham :>ei lain, and then it was that the Commons rang with Conservative cheers, given to one who had tho reputation of being the most dangerous of all the antagonists of Conser- vatism, Mr. Chamberlain, anomalous thou»h his position in this matter seemed, wert unhesitatingly along what. he deemed the path of duty: and subsequent events showed that the course he took had the approval of Inany more of his countrymen than Mr. GILd- stone imagined when he appealed to no con- stitneneies to condemn the action of while lieutenant. v- All this is matter of such recent occurrence that it needs no further dwelling on. Some picturesque words by a light pon-sketcher of Parliamentary proceedings give a good idea of what manner of man Mr. Chamberlain was re- puted to be when he first figured in the Com- mons. Mr. Lucy wrote thus in his Diary of Two Parliaments"—a most entertaining work—of the member for Birmingham's introduction to the H ouse. It would be interesting to know exactly what impression Sir Walter Barttelot formed of Mr. Chamberlain's probable appearance and manner before he had the pleasure of meeting him faee to face in the House of Commons. H ¡"d evidently evolved some fancy picture, for his surprise to-night at seeing the junior memb, for Birmingham in a coat, and even a waistcoat, and on hearing him speak very good English il; a qui::t and undemonstrative manner « «.s undis- guised. It is reported that Sir Walter expected that this fearsome. would enter tho House making a 4 cart-\vhe.J like ragged little boys do adown the pavement when a drag or omnibus passes. The good baronet's acquaint- ance with the forms of the Rouse c mviuced him that there would be no nse in Mr. Chamberlain's presenting himself in his shirt-sleeves and with a. short clay pipe in his mouth. But on the score of waistcoats there is no Standing Order, and the lladical might, if he please, have paid the necessary homage to respectability by buttoning hi-i coat across his chest, while he gratified his natural instincts by dispensing with the super- fluity o( a waistcoat. When, therefore, there an so from a bench below the gangway opposite an so from a bench below the gangway opposite a slightlv-rnade, youthful, almost boyish prison, with a black coat fearlessly unbuttoned to display tiie waistcoat, and disclose the shirt-collar and necktie, Sir Walter began to stare, and ca-At side I glances to that other great legislator, Colonel Coibett, in the startled endeavour to know what lie ihoiHit of thin! Moreover, the Radical wore, not spectacles with tin or brass rims, as Poire Holt woinet have inevitably done had .is bt,.t ari ev( Posi- tive iv an eyeglass, framed in precisely the same st y), that which Colonel Coibett himself wears when his good-humoured face is turned towards a distant object. Surprise dee|incd "hen the Radical, in a low, dear, and admirably pitched voice, and in a manner self-possessed' without being self-assertive, t r >- (S'Q'ied to discuss the Prisons" Bill, opposing -zl the X err liees uhich Sir Walter himself had made liis Tov V'edms when he besieged the bill la t xvas voi-y tIlk-l-H was oi.lv one thing for an English gentleman to V and ht Sir W lter promptly did. lie rose ¡¡;j,.o; ;i jc. I vhen Mr. Chamberlain fat down, ann awi..ivtt,u,j •onscious of (iisgtjisiug his cart-whual-and no- ivn:steoat theory, publicly •ibanr|o|}cd it. and ■leid "lit ie er the heads of Mr i and Mr. !>rr.-sfo .i Hope the right hand oi iwlljvs 'in tc CIIH 1:■.11i• -d uiuinber for- iJirmingham." luidi.-id as he is, Mr. Chamberlain is also a olutoen-j.. ~Jie happy possessor of a prim-el) fortune made in business. His place at Hi:>Sibury. outside tho smoke line which surrounds t he mid- land metropolis, is a palatial one. There in 187 J. 11e heing thtn Mayor of Birmingham, Mr.Chamber lain entertained the Prince of Wales right myally. In the beautiful garden grounds may be seen what is perhaps the finest and mostc olete range of orchid-houses in existence, tilled with priceless specimens of these curious products of the plant world. Chamberlain was born in London in 1 ,1 In, and educated at I niversity College with a view :t ec)rnlile-I;l I -iir(Tr. When he was 18 acci- dent took his father to Birmingham, where he 'ined thu now famous Nettlefold screw-maid ng house. Young Joseph had a stool assigned to Iiiiii iii the of'nc(, *,Li cl his great biisiti(,s al)il;ty in due course carried him to the head of the concern, [n Is71 he was able to retire, a re- pue.il millionaire. In Birmingham he made his mark as a local reformer, and was associated with Mr. Jesse Coihnus and others in many matters of muni- cipal, educational, and social progress. He assisted materially in the shaping of the political organisation which !ater became so well known and feared as the "Caucus." He declared for a political faith of otit-and )iit Radicalism, including in his programme drastic land reforms, State-provided education, and Ilan- hood suffrage. School Board chairmanships and provincial •rav'a alties did not, however, bound the horizon of Mr. Chamberlain's ambition. He resolved on launching into the larger sphere of Parliament. Afrer contesting Sheffield against the veteran Roebuck in vain, he in due cour-e was selected lw Birmingham as one of its representatives. In 1 H) he was President of the Board of Trade, and his Bankruptcy and Patent Bills will always i auk as masterly commercial measures. In Mr. Gladstone's Third Administration Mr. Chamber- lain refused the First Lord-dijo of tiie Admiralty because of his ;a dieai dislike of the great spending departments. necepte(I t'ie siiiallei- (,i President of theLocalGovernrnent Board,leaving it later in consequence of his antagonism to the Premier's Trish dans. which lie declared unjust and impracticable. Hansard has recorded many a telling speech from his lips, and if his life is spared to his country's service will, doubtless, record many more. His sympathies with the agricultural population are strong, and to his championship of Hodge" he owes much of his popularitY,
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Ashford will receiv i their prompt and careful attention, and be de ivered in town or country Free of Charge. PENDREF WESLEYAN CHAPEL DENBIGH, A BAZAAR, Under distinguished patronage, will be held in aid of the Trust Fu of the above Chapel. On DECEMBER 4th, 15th, 16th, 17th. Further particula will appear shortly. V H. Hughes, "j Hi gh Jones, V Seas. T. Charles Jones,) T E LIVERPOOL AND T ONDON A [D JLl GL BE INSURANCE COMPANY, ESTABLI ED 18;:IG. TOTAL INVESTED FUN1 S £ 7,072,140 Fire Department—The mi .gnituilc of the Company's, Business enables it to accept Insurances on the most favourable terms. Ordinary I wellness insured at a yearly Premium of Is Gdpei ceDt. F irnituro therein in one sum lis per cent. Life Department- -All des riptions of Life Insurance and A-mnifties at moderate rat s. Participating Policies, under new table, payable at ti eLl age or previous death, The Large Reversionary ] onus of :J5s' per cent, per annum 011 sums assured in Che !JC\ Participating class has been declared sit each va nation. THE NEW CONDITIONS OF ASSURANCE Give increased facilities f r Residence, Travel, and Occupation.- Maintaining I olicies in force.—Reviving Lapsed Polices.—Prompt pa, ment of Claims. Prospectubes and Forms or I'topeiai way be obtained at the Company's Ollice.f, v (rem the a:eut, BELLIS, f DENBIGH. v J. W 4 BROWN, T AUCTIONEER, YAJ UER, AND ESTATE AG NT, Denbigh and ijigk Street, Rhyl, (Opposite tie Post Office.) All descriptions of Sales onducted on Advantageous Terms, and settled fo on day of Sale (if desired.) Valuations for Promte and Administration. Valuations of FarwiinT Stock and Tenant-Right, Household Furnitur &c., &c., on reasonable tlrms. LAND AND jioug BENTS COLLECTED. > 1 ,o, <; :T 4 W. CLWYD PIERGi Italian Warehouseman, v DENBIGH, Specially announces that he is Sole Agent in D bigh and District for T. W. tleach and Sons unequallef WHOLE FRUIT JAMS, from Lord Sudeley's lebra.ted Fruit Farm, Toddington, which securel the Golc Medal at the Heahh Exhibition, and the Gold fedal at the Crystal Palace, in addition to several othe: Gold and Silver Medals, a guarantee of their g at purity and flavour. Prices on application. CHRISTMAS FRUIT. W. C. P. takes this opportunity of informing lis numerous Customers and the Public that he has, received a large and Choice Stock of Fruit of e ry description for.Culinary and Dessert purposes whi the quality is particularly line, prices will be i< und lower than previous years. The general Stock has been thoroughly reple: ished for Christmas. Fine Teas from Is. 8d. to 3s. W. lwydPier e Vale -st.,DenbiLs" NEW SPANISH TREATY IMPORTANT REDUCTION IN PRICES SHERRIES from SPAIN, IMPORTED, BOTTLED and GUARANTEED by Owing to the accumulation of large tocks, and to the reduction of du' New Spanisii Treaty, W 6c A Gilbey hav< been able to make some excep' most favourable terms, and are therefore < labled to offer to the publi- at the following low prices :— Doi Bott. (J Castle SPANISII SHERRY ANDALUSIA This) Castle G PALE SHT Pale Sherry is from the Jar"e producing II -t j l'ale AmontiJh.. district of Andalusia. It has body, good ( r.utty, yet drv flavour, and will be found an excellent j luncheon or dinner wine 3 years old/ 1 Casi'e E COLD Si. 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There arc. I grant you, lots cf Acts of Parliament dealing with tithes, and herein many young church- men equally with others, make a raistaks. Granted there are Acts oi Parliament dealing with tithes, but that is not th>. point; what we want, and^ what we are entitled to have (if it ever existed), is tiie Act of Parliament that created tithes (applause). Accs that deal with tithes does not prove that the state made them acts dealing with tithes prove only that the state regulates their payment and does not prove that they belong to the state. The Post Office Saving's Bank Acts regulate the rp.'jde by which your X5 in that bank is dealt with but because there is such an act, it does not prove that the state owns your t5 note, any more than the Acts of Parliament regulating the London and North-Western railway and the revenue thereof, proves that the state owns the script of the company you hold, and which you have locked up at home, end thus the Acts of Par- liament showing that the tithes are regulated do not prove in the slightest degree that they were given by the state. State permission is no' state ownership. I defy any Liberationist now to come forward on this platform and produce lo- us the original Act of Parliament that created tithes (ap- plause}. But thev say they existed before parlia- ments began if they did, then we holJ them by a right of prescription, and thats a good deal more than they can say about some of their chapels. S61"te say they were given in the time of Ethel wo If, about a 1,000 years ago. Well, Ethelwolf was a very respectable kind of monarch, but he was only King of part oi England, and I don t see how he could very conveniently and comfortably create tithe for the whole Kingdom (applause). Nov", it is an as- tonishing thing to me that the Liberationists consi- der that 25 years prescription is good enough in the case of chapel and such like property and endow- ments, and yet they won't allow us to hold ours even with a 1,000 years title, that is granting for a moment for the sake of argument that King Ethelwolf did create them, but he did not, and we have the most aoundant evidence that neitaer King Ethelwolf nor King anybody else ever created the tithe. THE CREATION OF TITHE was the mere carrying out of an old custom which prevailed in ancient times, and was enjoined in Holy writ, to the effect that one-tenth the property or possession should be devoted to God s scivice but the tithe now is not a tenth, nor the tenth of a t mth. But the early landowners followed out this idea and in most cases laid their estates under a charge of tithe; thus it is not a state tax, but a personal gift, a rent-charge. Supposing my father left my sister and myseii £ 1000 a year, but left the whole projerty to me, and I was to pay her share I should have no right to say that I paid it myself. My father ;ave it, and merely made me the paymaster and trustee. Let me say clearly that THIS DISHONEST TITHE AGITATION in North Wales is aimed at the old Church of Euglind and at all propeity as well (applause). Ana mind you this movement against property afftcts the poor man as well as the rich, if not more so for the rich man, who lias much, will be able to save something out of his much, and get a mainten- ance in some foreign country, or by some other means; but the poor man, if he loses his all will be depressed and ruined, therefore it is the w s- dom, as well as the duty of the p;)or man, to main- tain the common laws of property honestly intact, (applause). The tithe is in reality only a part of the rent, but instead of all going to the owner, so much going to the landlord and so much to the par- son of the parish and if they were not paid to the paison, the whole would have to be paid in a lamp sum to'the landlord but it cannot make the least bit of difference to the payer, whether he pays it to ore or two. If he pays it to the landlord he gets nothing back, but if to the parson, much in a spiritual and social sense, and moieoyer the parson holds his share by a title better often than that of the landlord, for whilst the paison can point bad. to a prescription of many hunQi. '-is of y&ars, the ownei would be puzzled to prove anything more tha.i tv>o or three generations. In these days of agitation it behoves all to make themselves acquainted with and to spread a knowledge of the history of the church and the means of support of the national church, and if this is done, there is little fear of the people allowing this property to be misappropriated and misapplied; if this is done, the unfair insinuations, the erroneous statements of the Liberaticnists will die as the mists of the early morning pass away at the risimr of the sun (applause). It will be seen that it is not a state made church," but the church .of the land, God's church planted in our midst by pious men in the earliest time tiie aiurch which -puts no burdens on ruen's shoulders, but llits them .off, and anvt hing men contribute to the churcn against .their will is a debt they have incurred knowing :and one which they are legally and morally bound ".to carry out (applause). The church is 'THE NOBLEST AND BEST INSTITUTION in England, for the national Church in this realm has in the past taught the people their best lessons, given us the grandest literature, raised up and taught our best statesmen, built up our "national cnaractcr, brought into being and inodeiled our national institutions of a philan- tWhie and'-chaiitable order, and of ail the Institutions ii England is the one we can least. spare Our form of government ,grand and noble as it is the House of Wds .much as we lespect it; the House of COtn- inons much as we admire it; of all those and of the kindred institutions, none confer so much grace zand glory, none could we so ill afford to spare as that grand old institution of God's church in the land (applause). This church has for its greatest, noblest object the well being of our people, And demands their support and consideration and gratitude for services rendered in the past should be the prevailing principle with honourable men. H-aa net the chuich in Britian been the home of Teligious life and power? bas it not withstood the attacks of sacerdotalism on the one hand and of the scoffer and sceptic on the other? have not the greatest fathers and noblest men of the nation in ,literature, science, politics, and religion heeu fostered in the church ? and this being so, as :atLcn;,st the ancients ingratitude was considered ithe vLst and basest of crimes, so in God s sight nvould it be now if we were ungrateful to the "church which has been of the greatest benefit to •our people in all ages (loud applause). is Bio institution were men of all grades and.a vie^s are so welded together as m the oi<d c"c Sacerdotalism on the one hand with all its i, orj, faeeination, and beauty, crude puritanism on tie •other, may lay claim to the allegance of men anc .seek to uproot the old church, but nowhere, under .no form is there buch room for individual devotion, such scope for every kind and degree of true re- ligious feeling and work. Let us have a determina- tion to keep it so, for to us no institution possesfcs «nch nower, orace, and beauty as the old church toXh « belong, and whose ol.ta. we ,earnestly plead (applause). The lecturer concluded his address by an appro- priate quotation from George Herbert's," poem, The Temple," in which the symmetry grace and ibeautv ot the church are contrasted with £ he on the hills" (the Romish Church), and "She in the "valley (Nonconformity), and concluded by urging ^lifit above ali these are Thy praise and glory, and i0ng may be Blessed be God ^ose love it was To doubly load thee with His grace, And none but Thee. Mr- Keed sat down amid roud and long a^ppia DISCUSSION INVITED. T'I Chairman invited anyone who wished to ask Mr. Btrion Reed any questions, as to anything he had said, or as to any other point which uy sired information to do so, and he would reply to them. No one responded to the invitation. NONCONFORMIST DIVISIONS VOTE OF THANKS. Col. Meshan; proposed a vote of thanks to Mr. Byron Reou for the most able and eloquent address they had listened to that evening, for they could hardly leave that room without being better and Wiser men, and having learnt a great deal from what they had heard that night. If they were to have an agitation against the dear old church, as it looked likely from what was taking place now in North ^Vales, it behoved them all te do what they could in defence of the church, and he was deeply grateful, and was sure they were for the eloquent thoughts arguments used that night on her behalf (ap- plause). He. hoped they would profit by them, so as to be able to answer their opponents. It puzzled him that the people of Wales, because the church happens to be in a minority in this part, should lift up their hands agair.st hei; the church to which thur forefathers belonged up to within tile last general ions (applause). It puzzled him that they should be such bitter enemies of that church, which for IJíCiO years had existed amongs them, for he defied anyone to say that the church did not do a vast amount of good, especially amongst, the poor in the villages, where it was the centre of every good and charitable movement, and he should like to know what w.'s to take its place. They knew there was not the unity amongst the I Nonconformist bodies that there ought to he, except on this one point of opposition to the chuteli (applause). He had not a word to say agaiast Nonconformists, so long as they taught religion and <lid not endeavour to set against, class, but endeavoured to promote amiu/ and encourage poor and rich to live together happily (applause). He was willing, as a churchman, to live on good terms wIth NoncvufornIlsts. Why I did not they do the s'une and let. the church go on doing her work unmolested (applause). Church- men should re mem her ti'iat the dissenting bodies of Wales were not so united as they seemed to be on all other points but this they are greatly divided, and he was certain if they me ii, i). of the Chinch of England (the Church of Wales was a part- of it) s'ood manfully together, those who opposed the church would be defeated, they (the churchmen) would be victorious, and Their church would still be the mother cnuich of the land (applause). Dr. Turnour seconded the motion which was carried with acclamation. THE COMING BATTLE. Mr. Reed, after thanking them and remarking that he took it as a great personal compliment that so large a gathering should assemble on such a night, hoped the meeting would stimulate a spirit of intelligent and fair inquiry into church matters, for the church had nothing to fear from the covers of history being opened, The result amongst church- men would be that their love would wax warmer, their zeal stronger, their affection become more de- voted, so that when the day of battle comes, when these mere affairs of outposts gave place to the general assault, the ranks of the church would be closed up, they would stand shoulder to shoulder, stand firm and true, when it became necessary, not only to wield the trowel of church progress, but the glittering blade of church defence, and if they were so united, at such a time and in such a cause, by God's good providence, they would be able to withstand the shock and overcome all the enemies of the church brought against them (applause), lie thanked them for their patient hearing, and as there was luck in odd members he may have the pleasure of meeting them again for the third time (much ap- plause). He concluded by gracefully moving a vote o[ thanks to the chairman and referred to his most valuable services to the church and the way in which they were appreciated by the Church Defence Society. Major Lloyd Williams seconded it, and it having been carried, with applause, the chairman replied and alluded to the tithe agitation, and the necessity for changing the mode of collection. The meeting closed by the singing of the National Anthem. _————.